Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-25 Thread Paul G
One thing, I think, that separates Riv road bikes from other brands is the maintaining of good fit AND handling geometry at the smaller frame sizes this thread is dealing with. The 700c wheel size has to be dealt with because they physically "get in the way" of good geometry more as the frames

[RBW] Re: Rivendells in South Korea

2024-04-25 Thread Tony Lockhart
Good stuff, Marcus. I like your storytelling sensibilitiesKind of feels like I'm travelling while watching your films due to the variety of content you share. I also appreciate the bike checks you add. Keep up the good work! On Wednesday, April 24, 2024 at 5:17:19 PM UTC-7

Re: [RBW] Centerpull vs V-Brakes in terms of maintenance and use

2024-04-25 Thread Robert Calton
Thank you for all the insight, folks. I just pulled the trigger on my first Riv, one that comes with Paul centerpulls. So I will do a deep-dive into this type of brake to learn as much as I can about them. Cheers! On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 8:14:24 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote: > I have to

Re: [RBW] Centerpull vs V-Brakes in terms of maintenance and use

2024-04-25 Thread Eric Daume
I have to admit, my only centerpull experience is with bolt on Dia Compes and Weimnmans, none of the fancy brakes. Then again, blue collar V brakes work great. Eric On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 7:55 PM Josiah Anderson wrote: > I agree both with Bill's "it depends" and Eric's "(some) centerpulls

Re: [RBW] Centerpull vs V-Brakes in terms of maintenance and use

2024-04-25 Thread Josiah Anderson
I agree both with Bill's "it depends" and Eric's "(some) centerpulls are spooky weak when wet." That depends on the centerpulls. DC750s, for example, I would agree are marginal-to-dangerous when wet, which I attribute to their flexy arms and low mechanical advantage. Mafac Racers and Raids,

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-25 Thread Jason Fuller
Wow, I show up late and there are ten thousand replies already which is too many to read through now My initial thought is that going from the racing platy's very upright position all the way to a drop bar road bike is a huge jump. I have to say, drop bars are truly the best in headwinds, but

[RBW] Re: Centerpull vs V-Brakes in terms of maintenance and use

2024-04-25 Thread Bob
My pertinent experience (including, for completeness, cantilevers): - V-brakes: Tektro 834A around 40 mm tires and fenders did indeed have good stopping power, except in winter before the rims and pads warmed up and dried off a little. A significant number of times when I disconnected

Re: [RBW] Centerpull vs V-Brakes in terms of maintenance and use

2024-04-25 Thread Eric Daume
Bill says “it depends,” but I can only offer my experience, which is that both are adequate in the dry, but centerpulls are spooky weak when the rims are wet. Centerpulls do look nicer, but in every performance category, V brakes are a clear and easy win for me. Eric V brake fan On Thursday,

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Bosco 58, Albatross Aluminum, 11cm stem, 700x50 Big Ben Tires

2024-04-25 Thread exliontamer
$OLD On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 1:19:07 AM UTC-5 exliontamer wrote: > Trying to sell this as a lot since I happen to have a big enough box. > > * Bosco bars are barely used. 58cm heat treated aluminum > * Albatross bars are well loved but structurally perfect. 55cm heat > treated aluminum

Re: [RBW] Long wheelbase = long chain

2024-04-25 Thread Piaw Na
You can't do that if you're using 11s or more. Rejoining 11s and up chains using a chain breaker is not recommended. My "trick" is to buy 11s chains at $10/pop when they go on sale once a year and a bunch of quick links at the same time. On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 11:31:11 AM UTC-7 Armand

[RBW] BRe: Fashion help wanted: ISO nice looking cycling gloves

2024-04-25 Thread Joe Bernard
Bill, the GOATs are unpadded and I love them. I use a Small on the bike and Medium to drive my bus. Recommend! Joe Bernard On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 11:12:04 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote: > I guess that's an OK idea. Riv has stocked traditional gloves from a > number of sources. At

Re: [RBW] Long wheelbase = long chain

2024-04-25 Thread Armand Kizirian
If you have certainty that you won't swap a drivetrain, simply buy two chains. The second chain will be enough to populate several chain replacements, granted they are of the same chain. No need to use two quick links either, if you have a chain breaker and know how to use it. On Thursday,

Re: [RBW] Long wheelbase = long chain

2024-04-25 Thread Richard Rose
Count how many links you have now. Call Will & Riv & he will use their bulk chain to send you one the correct length. EZPZ. Cheaper than buying two & easier.Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 25, 2024, at 10:58 AM, Edwin W wrote:I have a Joe Appa with long chain stays, which necessitates a long chain,

[RBW] Re: Bike build day: Atlantis w/ Bullmoose & '81 Trek 510 Jean-Luc Picard

2024-04-25 Thread exliontamer
No clear coating over the paint but it's a smart idea. I'm guessing you may have seen it but the vintage Trek site is a gem. It's usually easy to narrow down the year by geometry, tubing, and components since they did a lot of switching up. http://www.vintage-trek.com/TrekBrochures.htm On

[RBW] Re: Fashion help wanted: ISO nice looking cycling gloves

2024-04-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
I guess that's an OK idea. Riv has stocked traditional gloves from a number of sources. At least twice I've bought them and disliked them for one reason or another. These are yet another variant and maybe they nailed it. They only have three pairs of medium in stock so I'd better decide

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
Bending those "BL" rules forced me to concede that the front derailleur I chose for my 3x1 build was too crappy. I kind of smugly used the crappiest front derailleur in my bin, because friction shifted front derailleurs are a dime a dozen. The crappiest one (old Deer Head) proved to be too

[RBW] WTB: Soba Handlebars

2024-04-25 Thread Johnny Alien
Every once and awhile I decide I want to search for some Soba bars again. This is the lightweight version of the Noodle handlebars. Anyone have a spare one they want to unload? Not really concerned about width. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Centerpull vs V-Brakes in terms of maintenance and use

2024-04-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
The answer to each of those questions is "It depends". There are great and lousy set ups with center pulls. There are great and lousy set ups with V-Brakes. You decide if you prefer one over the other. Ride bikes to develop your preferences if that's what you want to do. If you're going to

[RBW] Re: Long wheelbase = long chain

2024-04-25 Thread DavidP
My Platypus requires 116 + 12 links. I use two chains with two quicklinks. I don't bother about spacing the quicklinks equally between two 64 link sections but others may. -Dave On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 12:51:46 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote: > Ebike chains come in extra long links. Figure out

[RBW] Re: Fashion help wanted: ISO nice looking cycling gloves

2024-04-25 Thread Matti
Nobody mentioned the Rivendell G.O.A.T. gloves https://www.rivbike.com/products/goat-gloves-the-g-o-a-t-glove. Perfect for traditionalists and could probably be dyed to the color of your choice. On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 7:11:10 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote: > OK, those handup gloves are

[RBW] Re: Long wheelbase = long chain

2024-04-25 Thread Garth
Ebike chains come in extra long links. Figure out how much you need and buy one close. On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 11:47:47 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote: > Rivendell themselves buy "chain" in enormous continuous bulk, so they can > use a single chain for a build. I buy my long chains from

[RBW] Centerpull vs V-Brakes in terms of maintenance and use

2024-04-25 Thread Robert Calton
I'm curious what the differences are between these two types of brakes with regards to their respective maintenance and general use. Is one easier to adjust and keep in good riding order than the other? Does one feel fundamentally different than the other during the ride? I've read that

[RBW] Re: Bike build day: Atlantis w/ Bullmoose & '81 Trek 510 Jean-Luc Picard

2024-04-25 Thread Steve
Thanks for sharing your 'technique' with the Trek. I hadn't thought of using a paint pen for detailing - though it makes perfect sense. Wondering if you clear coated over the paint to finish it up? BTW, I'm now keeping my eye open for a 510 or 710 (or similar) and I'm placing the blame on

[RBW] Re: Parts for Sale

2024-04-25 Thread John Rinker
Thank you Doug. I'll let this beauty go to someone else the group. Good luck with your sale! Cheers, John On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 7:38:54 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote: > John, > I will attach the saddle photos to this reply. > [image: IMG_0655.JPG][image: IMG_0653.JPG][image: IMG_0652.JPG] >

[RBW] Re: Long wheelbase = long chain

2024-04-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
Rivendell themselves buy "chain" in enormous continuous bulk, so they can use a single chain for a build. I buy my long chains from Riv. In the past, when I've been impatient and wanted to do something in the stand "RIGHT NOW" I've just used two quick links and a subset of a second chain.

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-25 Thread Gordon Stam
That might have been me.Was it green, the Romulus? This was a route that began and ended in Pagosa Springs. And agreed, it is a good road bike, and I still have mine. I do recall, however, that I had a work a little harder keeping up on fast road rides on the Romulus that I did on my Gunnar

[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Ram $1800 with more photos

2024-04-25 Thread 'Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch
Bumping this. My neighbor got a few bites but the frame turned out to be too big or too small. Let me know if you are interested and I will put you in touch with the seller. On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 11:36:26 AM UTC-4 Steven Seelig wrote: > [image:

[RBW] Re: Long wheelbase = long chain

2024-04-25 Thread Brian Forsee
I don't have a long chain bike myself, but when i was employed as a bike mechanic i worked on lots of recumbent bikes. These would require 2-3 chains, most of the time 3. We would just splice together 3 chains of the same make and model. I ran into problems trying to combine different model

[RBW] Long wheelbase = long chain

2024-04-25 Thread Edwin W
I have a Joe Appa with long chain stays, which necessitates a long chain, longer than a single chain. For all of you out there with a long chain bike, what are your best tips/tricks/techniques for purchasing a chain. Where do you go for a long chain? What else do you think about with chain

[RBW] Re: Parts for Sale

2024-04-25 Thread John Rinker
Hey Doug, I may be interested in the B17 saddle, but the link to your pics doesn't seem to work for me. Cheers, John On Wednesday, April 24, 2024 at 3:35:22 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote: > I have some parts that I've accumulated the past couple of years that I > need to sell to clear some space in

[RBW] Re: Fashion help wanted: ISO nice looking cycling gloves

2024-04-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
OK, those handup gloves are pretty darn fun. That may be the move. BL in EC On Wednesday, April 24, 2024 at 6:43:02 PM UTC-7 Tom M wrote: > If you find Cycology gloves too loud, you may not like these: > https://handupgloves.com/collections/all-gloves. Still, check out the > Summer of

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-25 Thread Mathias Steiner
The thread title is "roadbike curious" not drop-bar curious. I ride a Bruce Gordon Taiwan BLT with a drop bar. It's like an original Sam Hillborne -- basically the same geometry, and a frame that weighs 2700 grams by itself. It's stiff to carry a load on rough roads. I've ridden it with road

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-25 Thread Johnny Alien
Yeah thats a big haul too. New wheels, cockpit, brake setup, gearing (potentially). New road focused bike is 100% the way to go. :) PS: I would feel the same way about getting a bike that would then need a cockpit overhaul automatically like that. A good deal gets to be less of one when you

Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-25 Thread Garth
I'm doubling tripling down on the drop bar racing Platy. I've lost count how many Platy's Leahs has, 2,3.4 ? IDK. I think the World won't stop rotating to spare a drop bar Platy to try, at least initally, especially since Leah has never even ridden any drop bars. Nor has she ridden a "real