[RBW] Re: Huge Rosco Mixte

[Jay Connolly]

I have owned some BIG bikes, and that is a REALLY BIG BIKE. I don't think it's 
for you, though, Kai. I'd be happy to take it off your hands. 

Jay

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[RBW] Re: Anyone using Catalyst Pedals on their Rivendell?

[Jay Connolly]

I have these pedals on my Joe and really like them. It took a few rides to 
adjust to riding with the foot more forward, but now I don’t even think about 
it, even though I have these on only one of several bikes. I bought them 
because flats cause me hotfoot on rides of more than about an hour. These 
pedals solved the problem. I’ll probably pick up one more set before too long.

Jay 

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[RBW] Re: Anyone using Catalyst Pedals on their Rivendell?

[Jay Connolly]

Probably depends on the length of the rider’s foot. The catalysts are designed 
to bridge the entire arch of the foot. It works even with my huge feet, 
removing the concentration of pressure from the ball of the foot. According to 
the hype on the Pedalling innovations page, optimal efficiency will be achieved 
only in this centered orientation. YMMV. Works for me. The MKS pedals are 
almost an inch shorter, I believe, but they may well provide the same 
experience to riders with feet smaller than mine.

Jay 

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[RBW] Re: Anyone using Catalyst Pedals on their Rivendell?

[Jay Connolly]

No question that I’m just as slow with the Catalysts. Seat comes down, yes. 

Jay

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Re: [RBW] Weekend trip: PDX - Astoria - Tillamook

[Jay Connolly]

Truly wonderful photos. Thank you.

Jay

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[RBW] Re: SKS B 65s or Velo Orange Zeppelins?

[Jay Connolly]

Patrick, I have the PB ALX Cascadia fenders over 48s on my Joe and just ordered 
a set file my upcoming Clem build. Solid fenders. Not as pretty as the VOs, but 
certainly attractive enough and functional and easy to fit.

Jay

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[RBW] Chocolate Spokes

[Jay Connolly]

Really enjoyed the video. He’s one of the people I’ll keep in mind in the event 
that I order a custom down the line.

Jay

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Re: [RBW] Rivs with the Jones Loop/Bend H-Bar (Map/Ahearne too)

[Jay Connolly]

Benz, the Joe has been that way for a couple of months. I used a drop bar for a 
while but have enjoyed the bike much more with the Jones. I use the bike as a 
hauler at our cottage. Lots of bad pavement on narrow roads, with bail-out 
roadside trails for when the traffic is heavy, so the bike takes lots of 
knocks. It also has me yanking and pushing on the bars when I stand, and I’m a 
super-duper Clyde. I had the same initial reaction as you to the two-bolt 
system but have had no issues. I bought the Joe to be my touring bike, but life 
got in the way of a planned tour last summer. Will definitely tour with the 
Jones bar. 

On Sunday, October 22, 2017 at 10:13:33 PM UTC-7, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
> Hi Jay, if you don't mind me asking, how long have you had that setup and 
> what kind of riding do you do? I'm asking as I bought that 31.8mm clamp quill 
> stem, but realized thereafter that they use two M4 bolts to clamp the 
> handlebar. That's a bit tiny compared to the normal Nitto stuff. Do you find 
> that sturdy enough (i.e., slip-free)?

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[RBW] Sam and Barlow Pass 700c

[Jay Connolly]

I run the Snoqualmie Pass tires on my Sam, without fenders. It’s not a bike I 
ride in the rain, though. For that I have 700 x 38s on A MBC Monster Cross with 
Soma Raindog fenders.

Jay

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Re: [RBW] Trigger shifters on swept-back bars - Jones or others

[Jay Connolly]

There a ton of room on the Jones bars and on the Ospreys. I use Shimano 9 speed 
on the Joe with Jones. They work great. I got a deal too good to pass up on a 
1x crank, and someone gave me a brand new 11-42  cassette for free, so my Clem 
L will be a 1x11. It strikes me as a little absurd, somehow, and a little 
anti-Riv, but I’m looking forward to it. 

Jay

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[RBW] Re: Large Saddlesack in Olive FS $175

[Jay Connolly]

I'm really tempted, Eric. It's the HUGENESS, is all. Just not sure I'd need 
it, even for loaded touring.

Jay

On Sunday, November 26, 2017 at 3:13:01 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> One more time … can’t believe nobody needs this bag. Used by me just once, 
> which is why I’m selling it. Tons of capacity for whatever you need to 
> carry. Includes the small, detachable bag (for the small stuff). 
>
> Rivendell sells these new for $255: 
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/bags/products/sackville-saddlesack-large-olive-20133
>  This 
> one, in excellent condition, can be yours for $175 shipped in the CONUS. 
> Heck, for that price I’ll even ship it to Canada!
>
>
> More photos here: 
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1l87b6yziuzszuz/AAAfC5R2lhNyj9nM4wAeP724a?dl=0 
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
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[RBW] WTB (iBob cross post) 30 x 46 square taper (170 approx) crank, silver

[Jay Connolly]

I have a VO New Rando 46/30 (with a new 42 in the bargain), but it's 175. 

Jay

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar for bikepacking

[Jay Connolly]

Ground clearance will not be an issue on the GDMBR. The VAST majority of 
the route consists of gravel roads. 

Jay

On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 9:48:19 PM UTC-8, ed wrote:
>
> Last year I bought Philips' 48 Hunqapillar frame and I just recently 
> installed a Cliffhanger wheelset with dyno front hub and WI MI5 rear.
> I am planning to use the Hunqapillar for the GDMBR next year.
> To get better clearance from the ground, I planned on using bikepacking 
> bags but handlebar bags such as Revelate Sweet roll is not compatible with 
> cantilever brakes because it will interfere with the front brake cables.
>
> I would like to get suggestions from the group on what bag systems to use 
> to achieve better clearance from the ground.
>
> PS  I rode the TransAm last year on my 51 Atlantis using Tubus Cosmo 
> (rear) and Tubus Nova low rider (front) with Carradice C front and rear 
> panniers
>
> Ed Fausto
> Manila, Philippines
>

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[RBW] Re: Pics of Jones SG 2.5 on Appaloosa

[Jay Connolly]

I think the Jones Bar looks much better with the grips designed for it and 
some tape to complement the frame. Pic below.


On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 5:51:20 PM UTC-8, Ash [who works to 
bike] wrote:
>
> Completely agree reg aesthetics.  It can't match the clean elegant look of 
> Nitto Dirt Drop + ChocoNORM/Albas
>
> It keeps bothering me.  I try not to think about it :)
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 28 November 2017 00:12:00 UTC-5, Stuart Lovinggood wrote:
>>
>> No doubt these are comfortable (I used to run Jones on my fat bike) but I 
>> can't say I find the 2.5 aesthetically pleasing. That front loop looks 
>> enormous. Maybe seeing them on more builds will normalize the look. 
>>
>> On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-8, Ash [who works to bike] 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Like every other alt bar in I've ever seen/heard of, Jones Loop too was 
>>> in my shortlist.  I finally ordered one after catching up on the handlebar 
>>> thread started by Joe.  This is the 7th handlebar in 8 months.  Oh well, 
>>> think how much I'm saving because I'm not into modding cars ;)
>>>
>>> I needed it above the seat level, so first got SOMA Hi Rider stem.   
>>> Turned out it was way too higher than I would need.   VO Threadless Stem 
>>> Adaptor worked out perfect.  Given (a) Appa's top tube is quite long and 
>>> (b) Jones bar does not sweep as far back as Alba or Chco NORM, I needed a 
>>> short stem.  Dimension Threadless stem 31.8/70Mm/125 Degree fit the bill.
>>>
>>> Here are a few pictures for the curious ones.
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Big cassettes/Do I need a wolftooth roadlink or similar

[Jay Connolly]

I'm pretty sure you won't get the 9-speed Deore XT to shift to a 40 without 
the Roadlink or at least a very long B screw. 

I used a Roadlink to run an 11-40 rear with a 46/30 front on a 2x touring 
bike, which worked great, but 46 is about as big as you'll be able to go in 
the front--the 44 Silver would probably hit the sweet spot. IIRC, I did not 
need the long B screw for my setup, but mine was with 10-speed gear. You'd 
probably be wise to order the extended B screw. I tried the same deal on my 
wife's 50/34 without success. 

Jay

On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 11:05:05 PM UTC-8, drew wrote:
>
> Ok, here are the ordered parts:
> pairing a 9 speed 11-40t cassette with a riv silver double crank and an xt 
> long cage derailleur. 
>
> Should I be using a roadlink sort of device? Is this knowable without 
> trying first? If I do try, what should I be looking for to tell me if I'm 
> good or if I need a roadlink?
>

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[RBW] Real ride comparison: Joe Appaloosa vs Sam Hillborne vs Roadini?

[Jay Connolly]

I have a Sam, a Clem L, and a Joe. Setup is everything. The Clem L is new and a 
workhorse: groceries, errands, and dog walking. The Joe is in another 
location—one with bad pavement, lots of gravel connectors, soft forest trails, 
and a bit of mud—and I have it set it up for “anyroad” riding, with 700 x 50 
Cazaderos. I have been running a Jones bar, but on the weekend, I’m going back 
to Noodles (stole the Jones for Clem). I don’t ride for fast, but I ride hard 
about half the time, and I like the variety of hand positions on a drop bar. 
The Sam is set up for long road rides where the pavement is mostly good. I just 
bought a Nitto Moustache from a list member and will convert the bike this 
winter (stole the noodles for the Joe). I like the aggressive position of the 
moustache. The Sam has 700 x 44 Snolqualmie Pass treads, which I just love but 
don’t ride in the winter on account of the accumulated debris and winter rain 
where I live. Lotta winter flats. The Joe is a great explorer, the way I run 
it, but it’s not vastly different from the Sam. Because of different tires, 
bars, and intentions, though, they feel very different. It’s easy to raise and 
lower the stem on the Sam to make it more or less aggressive. I would love a 
Roadini, but I’m probably too heavy for it, and I like to be able to run a 38.

Jay

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[RBW] Sorely tempted by the Holiday Specials

[Jay Connolly]

I have both those bikes. 62 Joe and the 64 Clem. Absolutely love both of them. 
My suggestion is to commit to buying both, then choose just one at the last 
minute. That way you'll save the price of an entire bike. Always easier to part 
with just half the money.

Jay

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[RBW] Re: actual Roadini geometry specs?

[Jay Connolly]

Gott in Himmel. This thread has certainly roused passions, if not manners. I 
don’t phone because I could spend all day on the phone learning from the Riv 
people, and I’m across an international border, so calls are pricey. I did 
write as soon as someone mentioned it, but hadn’t before because I thought that 
when the bikes showed up and the shipping frenzy passed, there might be more 
info. Anyway, now there is.

Jay



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[RBW] Light Touring

[Jay Connolly]

I'm often struck by references to "light touring"--most recently in the 
posted Cheviot brochure, which advises that the bike is suitable for light 
touring (up to 35 pounds). I'm interested in whether the issue involves 
frame strength or bike handling. I weigh more than most people PLUS their 
full touring loads, and I've never had any issues on any kind of steel 
frame--road, cross, or mtb. If a smaller person--a 175 pounder, for the 
sake of argument--were touring on a Cheviot or any other light touring 
bike, is there a reason why they would need to keep the load under 35 
pounds? I'm not sufficiently knowledgeable with design/engineering 
principles to understand how various loads and roads might stress chain and 
seat stays, for instance. 

We use all ultralight camping gear, and when touring, my load probably runs 
to no more than 25 pounds, but I have toured only on robust touring bikes 
(LHT and Fargo). I'm not looking for a light touring bike. I ask purely out 
of interest.

Jay

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[RBW] Re: Light Touring

[Jay Connolly]

Bill, I did not say 170 pounds in my post. I referred to "a 175 pounder."

If you're going to be a d___ about accuracy, you should be accurate.

I don't have time to match you condescension for condescension, but I will 
point out that "swath" is not synonymous with "range."

Perhaps, in the rush of bombastic agitation, you simply neglected to choose 
your words carefully.

Jay



On Friday, November 3, 2017 at 11:51:50 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> FAKE NEWS!
>
> Wink! 
>
> It does not say "light touring" in the Cheviot brochure.  The brochure 
> mentions the word touring four times:
>
> 1 and 2.  "A top tube adds stiffness necessary for racing bikes or heavily 
> loaded touring bikes, but for
> commuting, day rides, moderate touring loads (up to 35lbs), and trail 
> rides, you don’t need
> it."
>
> I interpret this statement to mean  "The Cheviot is a capable touring 
> bike.  A step through frame is strong.  A frame with a top tube AND a 
> diagatube (like a Hunqapillar) is stronger. Choose the one that you think 
> is best for how you plan to use it"
>
> 3.  "Ready for Touring"
> 4.  "It’s stiff enough for touring."
>
>  
>
> Jay asked whether "the issue" involves strength or bike handling.  
>
> It's neither.  Rivendell is not telling you the bike will break if you put 
> 36 pounds on it.  Rivendell is not telling you that your bike will be 
> unrideable if you put 40 pounds on it.  Rivendell is not telegraphing that 
> if I weigh 170 and have 35 pounds of touring gear, that you will break your 
> bike if you weigh over 205.  
>
> It's just a recommendation.  The intent of a brochure is to plant 
> encouraging and positive ideas in the mind of the customer about what kinds 
> of things they might want to use this particular bike for.  It's also a 
> design *INTENT.  *As Grant designed this bike, he was thinking about 
> riders doing a swath of activities, including 'moderate touring'.  Some 
> people put 75 pounds on a racing bike and ride across country and have the 
> time of their lives.  Those people probably would have done even better on 
> a Cheviot.  
>
>
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, November 3, 2017 at 11:07:48 AM UTC-7, Jay Connolly wrote:
>>
>> I'm often struck by references to "light touring"--most recently in the 
>> posted Cheviot brochure, which advises that the bike is suitable for light 
>> touring (up to 35 pounds). I'm interested in whether the issue involves 
>> frame strength or bike handling. I weigh more than most people PLUS their 
>> full touring loads, and I've never had any issues on any kind of steel 
>> frame--road, cross, or mtb. If a smaller person--a 175 pounder, for the 
>> sake of argument--were touring on a Cheviot or any other light touring 
>> bike, is there a reason why they would need to keep the load under 35 
>> pounds? I'm not sufficiently knowledgeable with design/engineering 
>> principles to understand how various loads and roads might stress chain and 
>> seat stays, for instance. 
>>
>> We use all ultralight camping gear, and when touring, my load probably 
>> runs to no more than 25 pounds, but I have toured only on robust touring 
>> bikes (LHT and Fargo). I'm not looking for a light touring bike. I ask 
>> purely out of interest.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: actual Roadini geometry specs?

[Jay Connolly]

Agreed. I'm at the top end of the fit envelope and wouldn't be able to pull 
the trigger without a little more info.

Jay

On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 7:26:10 PM UTC-7, eflayer wrote:
>
> I get GP's orientation to PBH but give the rest of the biking world a 
> break. What are the actual dimensions of this frameset?
>

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[RBW] Re: First 64cm Clem L

[Jay Connolly]

Stephen, I don't know that I ever saw one. At one point, I was ready to 
order a 59 Clem, but I was on the outer edge of fit for that, with about a 
97 PBH, so I backed off and waited--and very glad I did. The Clem has a 
Brooks B67, so I run the seat a centimetre lower than on my other bikes at 
about 85. Plenty of room to raise the seat, if you're taller still.

Jay

On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 7:22:15 PM UTC-8, MountNormal wrote:
>
> Jay, 
>   Looks flippin' sweet. If you don't mind me asking, what is the suggested 
> PBH range on the 64? I've been wondering and looking for info on the 64 but 
> have not found any. 
>
> Best,
>
> Stephen 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: First 64cm Clem L

[Jay Connolly]

Kai, this one doesn't have the new seat lug, but I was really happy when I 
pulled the frame from the box and saw the curved stays.

On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 8:00:53 PM UTC-8, Kainalu V. wrote:
>
> That's beeauuutiful. I like that the seatstays are curvy. The 65 Clem H's 
> are straight as an arrow (not that that's bad, just not curvy is all). 
> Someone was selling some regular bullmoose bars on here that might be 
> perfect for that bike, and if you cruise around town locking it up 
> regularly, the bullmoose triangle has that solid triangle for running a 
> cable through and feeling safe while bowling or whatnot. 
> -Kai 
> BK NY 
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[RBW] Re: First 64cm Clem L

[Jay Connolly]

I think the 59 would be the one for you in the Clem. I was tempted by the 
Cheviot, but I'm on the outer edge of that one, too. I could have made it 
work, but the big Clem is a great fit. 

Jay

On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 7:40:52 PM UTC-8, MountNormal wrote:
>
> So at a saddle height of 76, a fella might have the post slammed down 
> against the seat tube? I ask because the PBH range for the 60 Cheviot 
> seemed to cover a lot of ground and I thought that the 64 Clem might fall 
> within my range. Someday I NEED a step-through...ok, it's a WANT but a 
> really intense "want". 
>
> Thanks for your response.
>
> Stephen 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: How do you like your Catalyst pedals?

[Jay Connolly]

I agree with everything Deacon Patrick says. They are spendy and I have 
them only on my Joe. They've been there long enough that I rarely think 
about making the foot-position adjustment. The differences in the pedal 
size "disappears" when I'm riding, which I think is the ideal.

Jay

On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 4:21:12 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> 1. How do you like your Catalysts? 
> Love em. 
>
> 2. How have they changed your riding? 
> More comfortable and solid contact with the pedal, fully engaged arch in 
> my foot. Result: stronger, more comfortable pedaling on climbs. As other’s 
> have noted, they do move the foot forward, and this creates overlap with my 
> front wheel, but since going fixed it’s a near non-issue because fixed is 
> so much smoother that I needn’t “side steer” because I easily hold a line 
> (straight or curved as needed) because of the flywheel effect. 
>
> 3. Do they make your bike feel easier to pedal down the road? 
> Down the road? Minimal difference. Up the road? Absolutely. 
>
> 4. Have they helped alleviate any foot probs you had with regular pedals? 
> I didn’t have foot problems other than pedaling mostly with the outside of 
> my foot rather than my whole foot. It wasn’t a problem, just what was 
> doable with the pedals on the market at the time. 
>
> Yes, I lowered my seat, by about a half inch. 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Rivs with the Jones Loop/Bend H-Bar (Map/Ahearne too)

[Jay Connolly]

Joe, it seems to me that when I followed the standard instructions, my 
experience was much like yours. Then I wanted to take them off, which I 
managed by opening a gap between the grip and bar with an 18" zip tie and 
squirting in some soap and water, then working the grip. It took a while. I 
used the soap and water again to reinstall them. There can be some play 
until the soap evaporates, but it was much easier. I'm a chronic tinkerer, 
but the Jones grips make me think very carefully about what I want before 
making the commitment of installation.

Jay



On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 4:51:27 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Holy crap, Jay, I hope I like the Chunky silicone grips 'cause I'm NEVER 
> sliding those suckers on again! I'm used to my trusty bolt-on Ergons and 
> haven't wrestled with slide-on grips in years. "Pour alcohol on bar and in 
> grips and slide on in one motion." HA. More like slide on in 500 itty-bitty 
> motions while slowly collapsing to the floor. Hey Jeff Jones, make some 
> long bolt-on grips, man!

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[RBW] Re: Roadinis could be arriving any day now?

[Jay Connolly]

If anyone has a 61, I’d love to know the virtual top tube length and the stack.

Jay

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Re: [RBW] Rivs with the Jones Loop/Bend H-Bar (Map/Ahearne too)

[Jay Connolly]

I love the Jones and have the 710 Loop on my Joe. When the announced the Jones 
Loop 2.5, I ordered one immediately and will probably use it on my Beargrease 
this winter. I have a 64 Clem L on order and will be using a Soma Osprey on 
that bike. The Osprey is very close to the Jones, without the loop feature. On 
anything that will be used for long distances, I really like the loop because 
it gives a couple of extra hand positions.

Jay
 

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Re: [RBW] 10x200 challenge complete

[Jay Connolly]

Well done, Bill. Impressive and inspiring, to say nothing of the insights into 
bikes, bike culture, and rivishness along the way.

Jay

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[RBW] Re: Graceful as Shrek encountering tourists

[Jay Connolly]

“An overnamed knoll.” Love it.

Jay

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[RBW] A question about frame bags

[Jay Connolly]

I’ve used them plenty, exclusively for bike packing. We rode most of the GDMBR 
in 2015. My wife’s XS frame was too small for a practical frame bag, but my XL 
frame had lots of room. On that ride, there’s plenty of hike-a-bike—or there 
was for a couple of middle-aged, middle-class, middle-fit riders. The narrower 
the load, the easier the pushing. Because of clearance issues on the XS frame, 
my wife could not run a big seat pack, either. She ran panniers. Pushing a bike 
up 15% grades with loaded panniers is awkward and was more difficult for her 
than for me with my narrow-profile load. Single-track riders also appreciate 
the narrow profile, for obvious reasons. Of course, you can bike pack with any 
configuration that works. My explanation is informed by a set of assumptions 
that show I bought the hype. In practical terms, though, we found there was 
some merit to the hype.

Jay

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[RBW] Re: My gift to the bunch

[Jay Connolly]

Beautiful, Marty. Thank you.

Jay

On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 at 6:34:07 AM UTC-8, MartyG wrote:
>
> With the introduction of the Frank Jones model, not to mention a few 
> others, I was reminded it's been two years since I updated the Rivendell 
> badge poster. As with the last iteration, I have uploaded two sizes to my 
> Flickr page where you can download and print as you like. One is 18X24, the 
> other is 9X12. Both are 300dpi so the detail should come through. Since the 
> last one I did in 2015, a few of the versions have had to go to make room 
> for the new ones. I did the best I could with available photos I found on 
> line, or that people have sent. I never get tired of looking at all these 
> great badges - a fitting legacy for the busy crew of elves in Walnut Creek. 
>
> Hope everyone has a nice holiday season and a ride-perfect new year ahead. 
>
> Marty
> Stewartstown, Pennsylvania
>
>
> 
>
>
> 18X24 file can be downloaded here:  
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/38299689265/in/photostream/
>
>
> And the 9X12 here:  
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/24315614747/in/photostream/
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: What is a Rivvish bike?

[Jay Connolly]

Great thread, Bill. I love Will's take. My own evolution as an incorrigible 
tinkerer had been to detach from the opinions of others. I love my bikes, but 
they are MY bikes and I get a lot of pleasure from figuring it what I want from 
each one. 

Jay

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Re: [RBW] Who's ridden a Steamroller and can compare to the Quickbeam?

[Jay Connolly]

I had an All City Big Block. Great bike and I was a fool to sell it. Mine was a 
61, which is comparable to the Steamroller in a 61. Not a high-stack bike, mind 
you.

Jay

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[RBW] Re: Thoughts/considerations for Clem as daily do-it-all bike?

[Jay Connolly]

I have one of the big Clem L's on the way (another month, I think), and I 
can't wait. I want it as my do-all'er--hauling, run-arounding, some rail 
trailing. I've read nothing but good things about these bikes.

Jay

On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 8:27:14 AM UTC-7, Tully Lanter wrote:
>
> Hi, all. I've had my eye on a Clem for a while now, and would appreciate 
> your take on whether it's a reasonable choice. 
>
>- 5'10", ~85cm PBH, presumably in need of a 52cm frame
>- Fairly short but steep daily commutes (in the Pacific NW., i.e., 
>hilly and wet) 
>- Occasional Costco runs and the like. Long chainstays are appealing 
>for the heavy loads and bumpy roads!
>- Random, long-ish distance rides on unpredictable routes. Pavement, 
>gravel, etc. in varying proportions. Bits of singletrack if I'm so 
> inclined.
>
> I'm drawn to the Clem's relaxed but not extreme geometry, total lack of 
> back-box components, and (relatively) accessible price point. All in all, 
> does it sounds like I'm barking up the right tree? 
>
> I'm inclined just to take the plunge on a secondhand Clem (if they're out 
> there...), but since even "cheap" Rivendells aren't cheap, I'd love to hear 
> your collective thoughts first!
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Re: [RBW] Rivs with the Jones Loop/Bend H-Bar (Map/Ahearne too)

[Jay Connolly]

Yes. They're the Chucky, not the extra chunky. I have the EC on my Jones 
and like them more. When I ordered the new bar, I also ordered two sets of 
the new grips they're selling--one set of the softer ones (clear) and a set 
of the firmer model (black). Both are 34mm, I believe, which makes them the 
equivalent of the extra chunky. One set will go on the Ospry bar when the 
Clem L shows up.

Jay


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> Hey Jay, those are the silicone grips, right? How do you like them?

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Re: [RBW] Rivs with the Jones Loop/Bend H-Bar (Map/Ahearne too)

[Jay Connolly]

Here you go . . .




On Sunday, October 22, 2017 at 9:21:19 AM UTC-7, Tim O. (Portland, OR) 
wrote:
>
> The Soma Osprey does seem to fit the bill. I'm not sure how I missed that 
> one when I was researching bars.
>
> Jay:Thanks for the feedback. Do you have pictures of your Joe with the 
> Jones?
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Rivs with the Jones Loop/Bend H-Bar (Map/Ahearne too)

[Jay Connolly]

Love the pedals. There’s a thread about them somewhere here. I bought them 
because I have size 14 feet and suffer from hotfoot when I use flat pedals. 
They ARE spendy, the moreso in Canadian dollars. I have several bikes but only 
one set of those pedals. Really, they are aimed (in my world) at touring.

Jay

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[RBW] Re: Huge Rosco Mixte

[Jay Connolly]

Brian, I have a 64 Clem L on order. Can’t wait for this bike. It will serve as 
my local hauler. I’m not sure they’ll be back any time soon, though, so if you 
want one and have the cash, I’d put in an order.

Jay

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot and Canti-Sam presale

[Jay Connolly]

If I didn’t have the big Clem L on the way, I’d be all over the Cheviot.

Jay

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[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

[Jay Connolly]

I have a v2 BMC Monster Cross. I've run it SS and fixed, and full road. 
Compared to my Rivs, it feels like an aggressive road bike--much lower in 
the front end. The versatility of semi-horizontal dropouts is fun. I run a 
Surly Juggernaut on the drive side

Jay

On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 1:38:23 PM UTC-8, Dave Grossman wrote:
>
> Thanks Jay.  The monster cross is appealing also because of its 
> reach/stack numbers as well.  I think it might be the way to go.  I am 
> still interested in a Roadini but I love the idea to be able to go pure 
> single speed.
>
> Also, I have some sweet rim brake wheels waiting to be used!  
>

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[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

[Jay Connolly]

The Rivs will run fatter. I have 700x50 Cazaderos on my Joe Appaloosa and 
Continental Race Kings on my Clem L. I think you can get a 45 on the BMC. 
As a gravel bike, the Joe is hard to beat -- if really fat tires are part 
of what you want. Took me a while and bunch of tinkering to get it the fit 
just right, but as a true "anyroad" bike, the Joe is hard to beat.

On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 1:55:46 PM UTC-8, Jonathan D. wrote:
>
> Jay-  what Riv bikes are you comparing to?  I like the idea of running 
> fatter tires with the Monstercross. 

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[RBW] Re: BMC Road vs Roadini

[Jay Connolly]

Check the new geo for the BMC road plus. It's a disc frame that can run both 
650B x 47 and 700c road wheels, I believe. Mike has brought the front end up. 
Stack for the largest size is something like 650, if memory serves. 

Jay

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[RBW] Re: Jones Bar on a Clem H, Appaloosa, or Yves Gomez?

[Jay Connolly]

I had the Jones on my Appaloosa and loved it. When I bought a Clem L, I moved 
the bar to that bike and put a Noodle bar on the Joe, but I’m a tinkerer, so 
I’ll probably go back one of these days.

Jay

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[RBW] Re: Experiences with Clem L or H

[Jay Connolly]

I use my big Clem L (64cm) as a run-around bike for very local errands. I 
absolutely love the bike. It's a joy to ride.

Jay

On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 2:56:42 PM UTC-8, Nancy Seibel wrote:
>
> Hi, there, I'm seriously thinking of buying a Clem L (I know...that's how 
> it starts) and wanted to hear from those of you have ridden this bike. What 
> do you like about it? Any dislikes? How is it on hilly routes? What about 
> long rides - defined as 30-60+ miles?
>
> I test rode one for a short spin around town and loved it. But would I 
> Iove it in hilly Baltimore County MD, on a century or out for a multi-day 
> tour?
>
> Thanks in advance for your comments!
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[RBW] FS: Road Bike Parts (Batch)

[Jay Connolly]

My next bike was going to be a road bike, but now I'm going another way, or 
maybe I'll just ride my 5 bikes in rotation and not worry so much about 
totally covering the spectrum. As a result, I have a bunch of road bike 
parts that I'd like to get rid of all at once to avoid losing a pile on the 
shipping. Please don't ask, for a week or so, about breaking up the set. If 
it becomes obvious that no one wants the batch, then I'll think about how 
to break things up. All parts are new and unused, EXCEPT THE CRANK, which 
is well used and has scuffed arms but LOTS of wear left (42 has only a few 
hundred kms on it, and the 30 has not seen much use), and the BB, which was 
installed but not ridden. 

* Tektro R539 brake set 
* VO New Rando crank with 46, 42, and 30 rings (175mm arms)
* Clement Strada LGG 700 x 32 120tpi tires 
* SRAM PG950 cassette 11-32
* Shimano Deore RD-591
* Shimano UN-55 118mm (recommended width for crank)
* Shimano HG93 9s Chain
* Downtube cable stops

Total for the package 340 USD, shipped.



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[RBW] New Bike Syndrome

[Jay Connolly]

I’d keep the Sam, too. If cycling is important to you, then sometimes it’s 
great to have a similar-but-different bike. Use a different bar, a 
wider/thinner tire, and setthe bike (or both bikes) to be a little more purpose 
driven. I have an Appaloosa set up as an anyroad bike with 700 x 50 Cazaderos 
for mud and forest trails. I run a basket some of the time, but mostly use a 
Sackville medium seat bag. My Sam, A VERY similar frame, is my road bike. I run 
a moustache bar, slicks, and generally keep it unencumbered. They feel entirely 
different.

Jay

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[RBW] Re: Eat Bacon Don't Jog--Goal set, goal met

[Jay Connolly]

I've had weight battles my entire life. Some years ago, I was close to 400 
pounds. I dropped to 250 a dozen years ago, but I have always struggled 
with yo-yoing. EBDJ was the first "system" that made it easy to maintain my 
weight. 

There are endless books about all this, but one I have found particularly 
useful is The Real Meal Revolution by Tim Noakes and Jonah Proudfoot. 
Noakes is a national-level coach from South Africa. He contends fat burners 
don't need to fuel obsessively during endurance events. Proudfoot is a chef 
who provides some incredible recipes, including one for seed crackers that 
provide all the crunch anyone would ever need.

Jay



On Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 1:13:23 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Over the last few years, I've been a reasonably low-carb person.  I 
> generally steer clear of pizza, rice, bread, but my discipline has been far 
> from perfect.  Things were working out fine, in that I wasn't gaining the 1 
> pound a year that people tell me I'm supposed to be gaining throughout my 
> 40s.  I've been holding at 180, which was acceptable but not ideal.  This 
> winter I decided: I've spent long enough treading water as a 180 pounder.  
> I'm a 155 pounder with 25 pounds of unnecessary cargo.  I decided I was 
> going to drop 20 pounds, and this past week I've made it there, dropping 
> below 160 for maybe the first time this century.  There have been a few 
> changes that might have contributed to success. I'm drinking a lot less 
> beer, and a lot less booze in general. My exercise routine has included 
> much more short and intense efforts as a coach of the high school mountain 
> bike team.  I've also done more to think about the way that I tend to think 
> about food. Just like with drinking alcohol, I find that I have the urge to 
> eat when I'm bored, or have downtime. I've tried to keep myself occupied 
> more, and I've endeavored to break that mental connection so I don't start 
> snacking every time there's a calm moment.  
>
> A few weeks back I did a 200k with SFRandonneurs, and I really noticed a 
> difference in my appetite.  For the first time, I kind of had to force 
> myself to eat.  I had packed four Lara Bars for a 9 hour ride, and I went 
> ahead and ate one at 50k, at 100k and at 150k, just because it seemed like 
> a good idea to put some food in.  I wonder if I've reached some level of 
> fat-burning, and have largely broken the sugar-dependence where I don't get 
> super ravenous.  
>
> So, Winter is almost over and we haven't fought about EBDJ all winter 
> long, I don't think.  It's a datapoint of one but I'm doing fine with very 
> little bread, rice, etc.  I enjoy a cut up apple with almond butter for 
> desert.  I plop a huge scoop of coconut oil in my morning coffee.  I'm 
> eating lots of roasted veggies and raw veggies.  I'll throw a fried egg on 
> any meal.  I eat lots of nuts and seeds.  I make bacon on Saturday 
> mornings, typically.  My 34 inch waist pants no longer fit.  I just bought 
> a couple pairs of 32s and one pair of 30s.  The 30s are snug, and I call 
> them "the motivator" to get me the rest of the way to 155, where I'll 
> probably stop and hold.  Set a goal and make it happen.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] 1x11 Sam Hillborne with a 50t rear cog

[Jay Connolly]

Sunrace now sells an 11-50 that fits a standard (I think) Shimano hub, so I 
don't think that will be XD.

Jay

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day! Black Mountain Monster Cross

[Jay Connolly]

Great looking bike. Count me as a fan of the WI cranks, as well--and of the 
BMC frames. That colour really pops.

Jay

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Re: [RBW] Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

[Jay Connolly]

Thank for this, James. Some time ago, I came across your turkey vulture concept 
and now employ it on several bikes. I live in an area with plenty of very steep 
paved and gravel roads—many of them approaching 20% for short stretches—and 
even steeper sections on the MTB trails. I’ve found that on MTB or mixed 
terrain bikes, an 11-50 1x with a 32t chainring works great. (On once of these 
bikes I have a SRAM GX shifter, and on another I use a Shimano XT shifter. Both 
use the Shimano M8000 11s rear mech.) On a road bike, I want 105” or better at 
the top, but I still need to preserve the 19” low end, so I’ve gone with the WI 
46/26 and a 12-36 cassette. Thanks for helping people find these solutions.

Jay

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[RBW] Re: What epoch of Rivster are you?

[Jay Connolly]

Put a foot into the Golden Age yesterday when I found a 

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 9:10:36 PM UTC-8 Berkeleyan wrote:

> I'm in for the long haul. I bought Moustache Bars from RBW for my REI XR 
> way back in the early 1990's, so that must have been when Grant first put 
> up a sign.
>
> When I was doored in 1997, I used the insurance settlement toward a 
> custom-sized 65cm LongLow, which I still have, and love. Phil hubs, 
> six-speed Sachs Freewheel, it just rides and rides and rides.
>
> Later, I found a 66cm QuickBeam on Craigs, and it became my "second" bike, 
> fitted with a Dos Enos flip-flop rear hub and Bullmoose bars. It has been 
> to an Entmoot (China Camp) and just about everywhere in the East Bay.
>
> Most recently, I had my friend Mark Guglielmana build up a custom frame 
> modeled between my LongLow and a Hunqapillar (ergo, Diagatube) and fitted 
> for a Rohloff hub. Totally Riv-inspired, and a delight to take on loaded 
> tours. It does sport a re-raked RBW fork, but with bosses re-brazed for 
> MAFAC centerpulls.
>
> And I'm only 61, so who knows what the next 10-20 years will hold!
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
>
> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 4:55:34 PM UTC-7 Philip Williamson 
> wrote:
>
>> Recent discussions make me wonder, what epoch of Rivendell bikes or 
>> aesthetic most appeals to list members? 
>>
>> Which era do you identify with the most, or like the best? 
>> Is it the era you first encountered Riv in, or did you look back through 
>> the back catalog and say, "That's the one for me?" Or did you arrive early, 
>> travel into the future with Rivendell and love best what's happening now? 
>>
>>- Are you a "*Proto-Riv*" aficionado of Longlows, Allrounders, and 
>>Herons? 
>>- A "*Golden Ager*?" Are Herons, Rambouillets, and Salukis your 
>>favorites? 
>>- Or are you a "*2TTer,*" a Bombadil, Hunq, and Sam Hillborner?
>>- A "*Clemster*" and a Rosco? 
>>- Have you become a "*New Atlantean*?" A Swoop-a-tuber, Hill-biker, 
>>and a Gus Bootster? 
>>
>> Are these fixed preferences, or have you been most into a different era 
>> before? Do you have shadings of more than one?  I first encountered Riv in 
>> the Proto era, looking at the All Rounder. Overall I'm a Golden Ager, but 
>> the New Atlantean age is looking pretty attractive. 
>>
>> Philip 
>> Santa Rosa, CA 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: What epoch of Rivster are you?

[Jay Connolly]

Definitely a 2TTer leaning into the Clemster age. Own an Appaloosa for 
touring and running around with various loads (and as my winter bike in a 
wet climate), a Sam for my version of speed (which is laughably slow, but 
really it’s just a reminder not to weigh down the bike with the extra 10 
lbs I carry on the Joe day-to-day). Had a 64 Clem which I stupidly sold to 
a friend and now wish I had back.

Jay
Vancouver Island, BC, Canada 

On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 4:55:34 PM UTC-7 Philip Williamson 
wrote:

> Recent discussions make me wonder, what epoch of Rivendell bikes or 
> aesthetic most appeals to list members? 
>
> Which era do you identify with the most, or like the best? 
> Is it the era you first encountered Riv in, or did you look back through 
> the back catalog and say, "That's the one for me?" Or did you arrive early, 
> travel into the future with Rivendell and love best what's happening now? 
>
>- Are you a "*Proto-Riv*" aficionado of Longlows, Allrounders, and 
>Herons? 
>- A "*Golden Ager*?" Are Herons, Rambouillets, and Salukis your 
>favorites? 
>- Or are you a "*2TTer,*" a Bombadil, Hunq, and Sam Hillborner?
>- A "*Clemster*" and a Rosco? 
>- Have you become a "*New Atlantean*?" A Swoop-a-tuber, Hill-biker, 
>and a Gus Bootster? 
>
> Are these fixed preferences, or have you been most into a different era 
> before? Do you have shadings of more than one?  I first encountered Riv in 
> the Proto era, looking at the All Rounder. Overall I'm a Golden Ager, but 
> the New Atlantean age is looking pretty attractive. 
>
> Philip 
> Santa Rosa, CA 
>

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[RBW] Re: Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

[Jay Connolly]

When I build up a new bike, I’m precious all the way. I often use a 
transparent protective tape anywhere a cable might rub or where experience 
has taught me that I will pick up a ding. And then I’m paranoid for a 
while. Inevitably, I relax, allow the bikes to wear the signs of use, and 
abandon the paranoia. Which is a more manageable way to live.

Jay
Vancouver Island, BC, Canada

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 3:15:18 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Did you read Grant’s Blahg? He covers a lot of ground, but most notable to 
> me was the Please Don’t Be Precious About Your Rivendell section. In sum, 
> Grant is saying it saddens him to think of people riding beater bikes 
> instead of their Rivendells to do daily, monotonous tasks - because those 
> tasks make up a lot of real life. If one “saves” their Rivendell, it will 
> not realize its potential, sit mostly unused and then pass to one’s heirs 
> who will sell it in “near mint” condition on EBay, and how sad. What was 
> the bike for?
>
> I have found myself both guilty and innocent on the matter. My #1 favorite 
> bike is my raspberry Platypus. I ride it all the time, because I bought it 
> to ride it, but I also dread any harm coming to it, and I do guard it from 
> that. I got a second Platypus that I dedicated to shopping and traveling 
> with and promised not to be precious about it. But now and then I still am 
> tempted to backslide. When traveling to the Philly Bike Expo I dithered 
> about which bike to bring. I didn’t want my raspberry Platy damaged while 
> locked up at racks and I feared it being stolen. Roberta said, “I don’t 
> think you have a choice, Leah. That’s the bike people will expect you to 
> bring.” And she was right, and I did. 
>
> Then, there is Pam. Pam is at the other far end of the spectrum. Her bike 
> is a model of beausage. Innumerable paint chips and little spots of rust 
> cover her tiny Betty frame. Her Backabike bags are full of holes and the 
> elastic closures are worn out. She locks it up and never worries about it. 
> She did not obsessively stare out the restaurant window to see if it was 
> still locked to the rack while we were at dinner (like yours truly). But 
> she loves her bike, has real affection for it. She looked at me, eyes 
> shining, and said exactly that. Ana, PurpleRiv, is another good example to 
> us. She adores her bike, but has not spared it from hard work. Her bike has 
> hauled obscene loads and taken her everywhere. I remember there was that 
> one fateful camping trip for she 1. Posed it for a photo, only to have it 
> topple and slide down the face of a boulder next to it. I believe she said 
> she sat there and wept for 2 hours over her Joe Bell paint. And who among 
> us would not do the same? 2. Same trip, another photo op, and the bike fell 
> off a cliff. 
>
> So, who truly loves their Rivendell? The one who lavishes it with care and 
> protection? Or the one who pulls it out of the garage and into all of life 
> - the mundane and the adventurous? 
>
> On one end of the spectrum we have those who will only take a Rivendell 
> out for special occasions so as not to spoil it, and on the other…well, we 
> have Pam and Ana, who will give it a good thrashing. (Oh, don’t take it 
> personally, friends, I’m being funny about both types of owners.)
>
> I find myself wanting to be precious but fighting it and succeeding *most* 
> of the time. I’m lucky that the raspberry paint hides beausage and dirt, so 
> it looks pretty new. But a dent in the top tube or a large chip in the 
> paint would really hurt my feelings. Heaven help me. 
>
> Where are you on the spectrum? What words of wisdom might you have? What 
> strategies do you employ? Do you want to change? Or are you 
> unapologetically staying put on the matter? It might be fun to hear 
> perspectives.
> Leah
>
>
>
>

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