[RBW] Re: Reading saddle threads, B17, Berthoud Mente

[John Philip]

I've tried the lot and like the Berthoud and Rivet saddles best.  The Mente 
however didn't work for me and I gave it away. I suspect I was not upright 
enough.  For a wider upright saddle my favorite is the Rivet Imogene. I 
found it comfortable out of the box.  I got the unslotted allroad model. 

On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 1:11:45 PM UTC-4, Joel Stern wrote:
>
> I’ve ridden Brooks forever, I had decided to try narrower than my B68 as 
> Oi rubs my inner thigh and is annoying. So I started reading on my old 
> trusty B17.  Wow, so many models and opinions, now some discontinued.  Then 
> I stumbled onto a few (many) comments and threads on Berthoud saddles. 
> Looking at their page I see the Mente is closest in size to the B17, the 
> rest are narrower.  But they seem to not be available unless from an eBay 
> sellers who sell at a very high price.  I ride upright, not 90 degrees but 
> closer than not.  I did read some comments on the durability of the leather 
> which may have been caused by putting Proofide  on it.  Just wondering if 
> any members who ride upright have used the saddle and how they like it.   
> Not sure if this helps but my sitbones seem to ne a out 90mm apart, 
> +20=110mm.  
>

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[RBW] Re: Gus is a sit-up guy and his neck flows like a swan now

[John Philip]

Those are Coronados. The bike's only been built a couple of days so not 
enough miles and varied conditions as yet to really tell, but in the 
unusually dry conditions we have had lately they roll and grip well.
On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 3:04:47 PM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>
> John, what model Teravail on your Gus, and how do you like? I am looking 
> at Honcho 2.6" for my upcoming L Susie.
>
> On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 12:59:48 PM UTC-4, John Philip wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 10:02:09 AM UTC-4, Bill Fulford wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m quite confused about the handlebar set up with my Gus Boots WILLsen. 
>>> How would waivie bars with the nitto v4 work. I like a little forward lean 
>>> as to not have too much weight on the saddle. Tough decisions.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Gus is a sit-up guy and his neck flows like a swan now

[John Philip]

Meant to add that I used a Wavie on my XL using that stem and it's working 
out well for me.

On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 12:17:14 PM UTC-4, Andrew Nussbaum wrote:
>
> +1 on the Cigne stem and production bars custom bent by Blacksheep. I have 
> a Cigne stem on my Super Grizzly 
>  paired to Thomson titanium 
> bars custom bent by James. The combination is so comfortable. 
>
> On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 8:22:42 AM UTC-6, ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:
>>
>> Hello Patrick,
>>
>> Bike and photos looks amazing. 
>>
>> Gus has a Threadless headset? What hard piece of wood saddle do you have 
>> on there?
>>
>> And where are you anyway? Looks beautiful.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Frame color!

[John Philip]

Here's Quickbeam green and a couple of blues. 

On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 10:56:02 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Chauncey just texted me saying that the powder coater is out of the 
> near-match to the "sage green" that Joe Bell used for my 2003 custom -- 
> frame later modified by Chauncey with the color in the photo below.
>
> I've asked him to see if the coater can order more, but while I wait on 
> tenterhooks (is that metaphor appropriately applied? Weren't tenterhooks 
> used for processing wool?), I ask y'all: what color would you choose for a 
> new road frame to be built with color matched racks, silver VO fenders, and 
> silver components? -- oh, and I like red accents: bar tape and panniers.
>
> Orange won't do b/c I like red, red won't do b/c I don't like red frames; 
> no black or white -- bleh! I have Ford Blue already -- beautiful! -- and 
> Forest Green. No turquoise or pink. Yellow, blech. 
>
> Should be a color that is readily available in touch up quantities.
>
> Tell me what you think so that I can complain about your suggestion.
>
> Patrick "the *only* color for a Riv with fenders is Sage Green" Moore
>
> -- 
>
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
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[RBW] Re: Act of Thoughtfulness

[John Philip]

On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 5:17:57 PM UTC-5, truegolden wrote:
>
>
> About once I month I cycle about 10 miles each way up north of me to help 
> an elderly friend.
>
> On a particularly busy stretch of road
> with a 40mph speed limit 
> (but most do at least 50)
> the few cyclists that pass that way get upon the sidewalk for about a 
> quarter of a mile to avoid risking life and limb.
>
> One fairly large upheaval in the sidewalk is frustrating and it helps to 
> cross it slowly to avoid a jolt or possibly damage to the front wheel.
>
> It must have been a fellow cyclist that kindly came up with this solution 
> shown in the pic.
>
> That person's thoughtfulness impressed me and I wanted to share it.
>
> I crossed that way today and snapped the  pic.
>
> A couple months back I left a note saying thanks.
>
> I hope the mini ramp builder saw the note.
>
> Paul in Dallas
>

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[RBW] Re: Act of Thoughtfulness

[John Philip]

On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 5:17:57 PM UTC-5, truegolden wrote:
>
>
> About once I month I cycle about 10 miles each way up north of me to help 
> an elderly friend.
>
> On a particularly busy stretch of road
> with a 40mph speed limit 
> (but most do at least 50)
> the few cyclists that pass that way get upon the sidewalk for about a 
> quarter of a mile to avoid risking life and limb.
>
> One fairly large upheaval in the sidewalk is frustrating and it helps to 
> cross it slowly to avoid a jolt or possibly damage to the front wheel.
>
> It must have been a fellow cyclist that kindly came up with this solution 
> shown in the pic.
>
> That person's thoughtfulness impressed me and I wanted to share it.
>
> I crossed that way today and snapped the  pic.
>
> A couple months back I left a note saying thanks.
>
> I hope the mini ramp builder saw the note.
>
> Paul in Dallas
>

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[RBW] Re: Northeast Riv Unmeeting 2018, Interest/Headcount, Columbus Day Weekend

[John Philip]

Sounds like fun. 6,7,8 works best for me. 
John

On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 2:44:54 PM UTC-4, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
> Hello Northeast Rivs!
>
> There's been hints at getting something going for people in the northeast 
> this year.  This is the "official" invite.  Weigh in if you have interest 
> and we'll make it happen.
>
>
> The general plan:
>
> -Meet in Pittsford, NY
>
> -Day 1  Ride ~30 miles (+/- roughly 1,000 ft elevation) of mixed 
> path/gravel and secondary roads south to this park on Canandaigua Lake:
>
> http://townofcanandaigua.org/portfolio_page.asp?id=2
>
> (Former YMCA camp, bunch of cabins available right now so I don't think we 
> would have any issues making reservations)
>
> -Day 2 ~30 ish mile loop around one of the other lakes, lunch, maybe take 
> in a local brew haus...route TBD.  Return to the camp/cabins.
>
> -Day 3 ~40 miles (+/- 1,000 elevation) back north along a different route. 
> Again a mixed bag of secondary roads and gravel/paths.
>
> Mix in plenty of rest stops, taking in the scenes, leisure, snacks, 
> general merriment. 
>
>
> Could be 10/5, 6, 7  or  10/6, 7, 8  depending upon who has Columbus Day 
> off/group preferences.
>
> Here's a very general route using default google maps routes to give you a 
> flavor of the area...https://goo.gl/maps/3sgU1mjBvM32   Our route would 
> be a little more discerning.
>
> In general I like the cabin idea as it makes the Just Ride ethos very easy 
> and accessible for everyone.   Same with the mileage, 30-40 mile days are 
> accessible for most people even without any prep. There could always be a 
> more camping "epic" fully loaded jambaroo some other time.
>
>
>
> Sowhat do you think?
>
> Alex Wirth
> Rochester, NY
>
> [image: 36063080_1714223618656754_2492650459974598656_n.jpg]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Buffalo to Albany on the Erie Canal

[John Philip]

Tim, it was great meeting you both and our pleasure hosting you for a night 
here in Central New York.  I've met and ridden with a number of people from 
this group over the years and in every case the experience been memorable 
for it's congenial good fellowship. I certainly can add another to that 
list. 
Best wishes,
John  
PS That Joe is a beauty!

On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 1:25:03 PM UTC-4, Tim Bantham wrote:
>
> Hello All, I posted a ride report on my personal blog highlighting a trip 
> I took on my Appaloosa from Buffalo, NY to Albany, NY via the Erie Canal 
> path. For those who are inclined to read it I have posted the link below: 
>
> https://wordpress.com/post/muddychainstays.wordpress.com/429
>
> For those of you who lack the time or desire I'll share a few highlights: 
>
> My Joe Appaloosa made for a nearly perfect touring bike.
> The highlight of my trip was meeting fellow list member John Phillips. I 
> was overwhelmed by his gracious hospitality.
> This is a great trip to take that I would recommend to anyone interested 
> in doing a week long tour. In the blog post I share lots of photos and 
> thoughts on what I would have done differently. Enjoy! 
>
> Tim
>

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[RBW] Re: Pics of your Nitto Big Front Rack install?

[John Philip]

Here's one I mounted on my first generation 64 Bombadil.  

On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 11:19:09 PM UTC-4, ctifusion wrote:
>
> I'm out of town for the 4th but right before we left I got a new Nitto big 
> front rack. When I ordered it the site referenced using U-clamps, but I 
> figured with all the extra stuff on the fork of the new Atlantis I could 
> mount it without the U-clamps. Riv was super helpful, and Will added the 
> extra struts and hardware (for a cost). He said it's what they use if you 
> order one built by Riv. Thing is, I don't have a good idea of how this 
> should look. 
>
> Anyone have a recent Riv with the big front rack installed by riv (or 
> themselves) and want to share a pic? I'm excited to get this rack on when I 
> get back and I'd appreciate your help.
>
> Thanks friends,
> Brynnar
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 1x11 Sam Hillborne with a 50t rear cog

[John Philip]

B Check Peter White

On Saturday, April 7, 2018 at 2:40:44 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me who makes the bar-end mirror on this Hillborne?
>
> Joe Bernard
> Novato CA. 
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Black Saddlesack Large or Medium

[John Philip]

Nope quite black when new. They have faded a bit. Here it is along with a 
black Carradice bag a few years ago.

On Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 7:19:37 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Hmm, that does look the same as the Ebay bag. Were they more dark grey 
> than black? That "black" looks nothing like my black Carradice. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Black Saddlesack Large or Medium

[John Philip]

It may well be a black one. Here's a pic of mine. # 0006
On Tuesday, February 13, 2018 at 12:53:18 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote:
>
> Please let me know if you have one for sale.
> Thanks,
> Erl

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[RBW] Re: Best of 2016

[John Philip]

I started off the year rehabbing two new knees so I got a bit of a slow 
start but overall it was a great year.  Good times riding with my wife and 
sons, meeting up with Pondero and crew on the GAP, enjoying my 
granddaughter and all topped off with a grandson born in December. 
Here's my set..*http://tinyurl.com/jtuf4x6*   

On Sunday, January 1, 2017 at 8:40:53 PM UTC-5, stonehog wrote:
>
> It feels like the time of year to post your "best of 2016" - are ya with 
> me??  OK - I'll start it off with the obligatory blog post (dwindling these 
> days):  https://stonehog.com/2016/12/31/2016-redux 
>
> And Flickr album: https://flic.kr/s/aHskRBkZQ9
>
> Brian Hanson
> Seattle, WA
> Bike Blog 
> @stonehog
> stonehogboɥǝuoʇs
>

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[RBW] Re: Frame bag recommendations

[John Philip]

Thanks, yes it is the Nitto lugged post.  Works well for me.

On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 10:32:46 PM UTC-4, Andrew Patteson wrote:
>
> On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 8:16:39 PM UTC-6, John Philip wrote:
>>
>> Here's one on my 64 Bomba. 
>>
>
> Wow, beautiful bike.  Sorry to derail, but may I ask, is that a Nitto 
> lugged seatpost?  Lots of setback can be helpful! 
>
> Andrew in SLC
>

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[RBW] Re: Frame bag recommendations

[John Philip]

Here's one on my 64 Bomba. Scott Felter of Porcelain Rocket does first 
class work. Highly recommended.   
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/14051388838/in/dateposted-public/ 
  There's a shallower compartment on the other side as well. I find the bag 
very useful.  Today it carried a Sven saw and large bushcraft knife as I 
was harvesting a bit of wood for a project.  It works great for pack rods 
tent poles and all manner of small stuff.  Here's one Scott made for my 
son's Hunq.   
  https://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/14343996523/in/dateposted-public/

On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 4:20:30 PM UTC-4, Jared Volpe wrote:
>
> Hi all. Searched the list and didn't come up with anything conclusive. I'm 
> looking for a frame bag for my 64 cm Bomba. There is about 4" of space 
> between the top bars. Thanks!
>

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[RBW] Re: Sometimes a photo is better than a descriptive subject line.

[John Philip]

Great news Cecily!  Timely for me too. I had my left knee replaced  August 
7 and the second December 4th last year.  I did get a bit of riding in 
between the two but this second knee is going a bit slower than the first. 
I needed a bright spot today. Thanks!
John in Central New York

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 7:54:00 PM UTC-5, Cecily Walker wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yes, it's a selfie. But it's a selfie with Rizzo, my Betty Foy. I haven't 
> been able to ride in over a year, but the weather was so nice today (though 
> a bit chilly), I decided to take a chance to see how the new knee would 
> handle a short ride. I didn't go more than 4km from home, and I rode very 
> slowly, but the point is *I rode my bike*. 
>
> For Clayton and anyone else who's facing knee surgery (or any other kind 
> of surgery that's keeping you off the bike), I can only say DO IT. The 
> recovery won't be easy, but the reward will be so great that they won't be 
> able to pry the smile off your face for weeks. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Let's see the best of your 2015

[John Philip]

I always love seeing these. Here's my culled images from 2015.  They end at 
about the time of my first of two knee replacements in early August.  I 
hope to start riding and shooting in '16 soon. 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/albums/72157662817561380

On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 2:39:16 AM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Hi Group,
>
> I don't think I've seen a post on the best of your images from 2015. So 
> let's see your culled images.
>
> Sorry to hear Deacon Patrick closed his Flickr account because of certain 
> tootsie fetishes. 
>
> Here's my submission 
> .
>
> And here's hoping 2016 exceeds 2015.
>
> Tail Winds,
>
> Hugh
> Los Angeles, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: Let's see the best of your 2015

[John Philip]

Thank you Deacon! It's been too long!

On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 3:52:22 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Och! John! That put a double cap on your riding tendoncies! Ouch. I love 
> your snow and barn shots, and seeing the very different rural area of NY. 
> Always fin to see. May you enjoy getting back out there very soon!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 1:44:53 PM UTC-7, John Philip wrote:
>>
>> I always love seeing these. Here's my culled images from 2015.  They end 
>> at about the time of my first of two knee replacements in early August.  I 
>> hope to start riding and shooting in '16 soon.  
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/albums/72157662817561380
>>
>> On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 2:39:16 AM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Group,
>>>
>>> I don't think I've seen a post on the best of your images from 2015. So 
>>> let's see your culled images.
>>>
>>> Sorry to hear Deacon Patrick closed his Flickr account because of 
>>> certain tootsie fetishes. 
>>>
>>> Here's my submission 
>>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/albums/72157661035422854>.
>>>
>>> And here's hoping 2016 exceeds 2015.
>>>
>>> Tail Winds,
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Let's see the best of your 2015

[John Philip]

Yes 68 Atlantis, 68 Quickbeam, 62 Hunq. Great fun!

On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 7:13:26 PM UTC-5, Kainalu wrote:
>
> Nice shots, is that Atlantis a 68? We've got matching Quickbeams. And the 
> Hunq at 62?, that must be fun to toss around on that good dirt.
> Enjoy the rides!
> -Kai 
> Brooklyn NY 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Let's see the best of your 2015

[John Philip]

Thanks, love yours as well.  Could use a bit of that dry and warm!

On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 5:18:00 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:
>
> John, I always love your images. You certainly have an eye. Have a great 
> 2016!!
>
> ~Hugh
> On Jan 10, 2016 12:44 PM, "John Philip" <japhil...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> I always love seeing these. Here's my culled images from 2015.  They end 
>> at about the time of my first of two knee replacements in early August.  I 
>> hope to start riding and shooting in '16 soon.  
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/albums/72157662817561380
>>
>> On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 2:39:16 AM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Group,
>>>
>>> I don't think I've seen a post on the best of your images from 2015. So 
>>> let's see your culled images.
>>>
>>> Sorry to hear Deacon Patrick closed his Flickr account because of 
>>> certain tootsie fetishes. 
>>>
>>> Here's my submission 
>>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/albums/72157661035422854>.
>>>
>>> And here's hoping 2016 exceeds 2015.
>>>
>>> Tail Winds,
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>> Los Angeles, CA
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[RBW] Re: Bike, Book, and Hatcheting

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Thanks Patrick!

On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 9:10:05 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Amazing spoons, Liesl and John! Very impressive! (sorry for the extra 
 post, I forgot to lead with this!).

 With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Bike, Book, and Hatcheting

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Here's my first three. All worked from spalted maple from the woodpile in 
the winter.  https://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/sets/72157655860514618 
On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 6:37:05 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote:

 I know that there are Hatcheters on this list serve because some of you 
 reply to me off-list.  I wonder if folks fear that they will be called out 
 for being off-topic?  Be bold, oh League of Riv Hatcheters!  It's not 
 anymore off-topic for Rivsters than aeropress coffee makers or paleo diets.

 Just to keep the little thread on life support...from the way back 
 machine, here's one of all-time my favorite cyclofiend finds.  You've 
 heard of Rivendell's Country Bike Movement? Well, I think I've taken it a 
 step further, having fun Walter Mitty'ing it into a Pioneer Trekking Bike 
 in preparation of a fanciful petroleum apocalypse -- 'Leading a rag-tag 
 band of survivors across the desolate North American continent on his 
 trusty Bridgestone RB-T' 

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[RBW] Re: Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

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36 all around 40 rear on the Bombadil.

On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 6:09:31 PM UTC-4, Rod Holland wrote:

 Related question: 36h or 32h wheels? 

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[RBW] Re: Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

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I'm 6'5 and currently 240#. Like Amit I have a 67 Hilsen and 68 Atlantis. 
 My Bombadil is a 64 and the Hunq is a 62.  The Hilsen rides beautifully 
and feels the most lively.  I ride it with minimal day loads and I love it. 
It feels fast and smooth. The Atlantis was my commuter and now around town 
bike.  I originally got it thinking I would tour with it but I found when 
it was loaded it just too flexy for me. Various loading strategies didn't 
change things. For me it works best with moderate loads. The Bombadil 
shines loaded and is very steady climbing slowly or descending at speed. 
I've loaded both bikes with the same racks, bags and gear there is no 
question the Bombadil handles a load much better. It seems a bit dead 
without a load. The Hunq is set up as an offroader with Midge Bars and fat 
knobbies.  It takes fatter rubber than the first gen Bombadil and I like 
the stand over room it provides. It's very steady up hill and down.  I'm 
sure it would be fine with a touring load as well.  If I could only keep 
one it would be the Atlantis.  If you look through my photo stream you can 
see them in various configurations.  https://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/

On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 4:26:14 PM UTC-4, DSat wrote:

 To the riders that weigh 200 lbs or more, which Riv model are you riding?  
 I am just shy of 300, so should I consider one model over another?  I 
 assume that the wider the tires the better.


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[RBW] Re: 14 for '14

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Great idea Tom, here's my set: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/sets/72157650504917152/

On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 6:22:22 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:

  On an even lighter (and possibly less contentious) note than 
 “bike-flipping”, I recall that last January someone had the excellent idea 
 to post 13 favorite bike-related pics from 2013, and to invite others to do 
 the same.  I found the resulting sets great fun to peruse, so I thought we 
 might try a reprise for 2014.  Here are my “14 for ‘14” – only one 
 non-bike-related pic (proud Pop exception!), a couple featuring the 
 occasional blood and pain of biking, 14 bikes (counting the ones in the 
 backgrounds, including seven Rivs and a 15th century replica!), a few 
 bike trip pics, a bike-by-the-water, and the annual “Jeez, my shop is a 
 mess!” pic.  Captions tell the stories.  Enjoy – and show us yours!

  

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[RBW] Re: Alternate mounting for Nitto Mark's Rack?

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Here's a Mark's mounted on my Hunq. 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/12822971164/
On Sunday, December 7, 2014 4:02:42 PM UTC-5, BSWP wrote:

 Has anyone ever mounted a Mark's Rack to the tops of the fork crown, on 
 fork crowns that have threaded holes right where the forks would come 
 poking through the crown if they weren't capped by the crown? It seems 
 possible with some careful bending of two rack stays, and would avoid 
 passing the diving board through the brake arm and cable area where 
 clearances might be tight. Maybe even a stronger way to fix the rear of the 
 rack to the fork crown, than using the diving board?

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[RBW] Re: Nitto big front rack q / hello

[John Philip]

I've done this twice using straight struts to the upper eyelets. See here: 
  https://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/15564057929/  A bit fiddely to set 
up at first but once done, easy on easy off.
Enjoy that Hunq!
John

On Saturday, November 8, 2014 8:15:14 PM UTC-5, drew beckmeyer wrote:

 Hey,
 I'm new here, but this group has already been a great resource. I've been 
 building up my new hunqapillar, and have come to front rack attachment. 
 I've seen posts where the big front rack has been attached without 
 p-clamps. For some reason, those methods didn't really work for me. I ended 
 up attaching the rack without the clamps but somewhat differently than I've 
 seen before. Lower fork eyelets attached to rack via struts attached to the 
 inside of the fork.
 So here are my questions:

 Is it a problem to attach the struts to the inside of the fork (about 1cm 
 of clearance on each side between bolt and spoke)?

 Is it an issue that the points of connection to the fork are the dropout 
 eyelets and the lower mid-fork mounts? Would it be more stable with the 
 second attachment to the higher mounts? Am I stressing anything too much? 
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[RBW] Re: How many of your bikes will take the HAR?

[John Philip]

I have a Hunq with the longer proto  fork.  The HAR does not fit as is but 
mounts up fine with a set of Tubus rack extenders. See here:   
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/sets/72157645738420794
On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 2:07:38 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 The Hub Area Rack fits best on an eyelet above the fork tip and on 
 mid-fork braze ons.  Will it fit your bike? 

 Most current Riv models have fork tips with double eyelets.  If you buy a 
 brand new A Homer Hilsen, Hunqapillar, Cheviut, Hillborne, or Atlantis, you 
 are going to get double eyelet fork tips.  If you buy a Roadeo or a San 
 Marcos, you'll get single eyelets.  

 I have a Hub Area Rack, have had it for a while.  It was an early 
 prototype that I talked them into letting me buy.  For what it's worth, I 
 paid a fair bit more for mine that you guys are paying now, but I share 
 that as a reason for you to be happy, not as a reason for me to be sad. 
  Anyhow, now that there are bags for it, I've pulled it back out.  Only now 
 do I realize that my old (2009) Hillborne does not have the upper eyelets 
 and my old (2010) Hilsen also doesn't have them.  Only my Bombadil and my 
 Gunnar doublespeed has upper eyelets and mid fork braze ons.  I wish I 
 could snap my fingers and have upper eyelets appear on my Hilsen and my 
 Hillborne so I could run this rack on those bikes as well.  Oh well.  

 Anyhow, as a workaround, it looks like it would be possible to run the HAR 
 on the lower eyelets, but it might have a tilt to it.  Not the end of the 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Geometry, climbing, what's going on?

[John Philip]

I have the long one but I expect I'm much larger than you. (My Atlantis is 
a 68) I should have also mentioned that after trying the bar I changed very 
quickly to a longer stem with slightly less rise.  I also seem to use a bit 
less front tire pressure with this bar but that varies considerably with 
snow conditions. In addition I have often decreased pressure in advance of 
tricky downhill sections to try to help with front wheel grip. If I get my 
weight back as much as I otherwise might.. I'm eating snow pretty quickly 
..but of course my skills are pretty lame when it comes to any technical 
riding. It's a good thing snow is mostly soft.

On Monday, April 28, 2014 11:01:29 PM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote:

 Have you got the long Jones loop, or the shorter one? When I was 
 testriding, I tried the longer one, but didn't like it. The short one, 
 OTOH, is excellent. So far, the bar-end position is working for me on 
 descents, though maybe I just don't go down slippery descents. Usually I'm 
 trying to get my weight back, not forward, on descents.


 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:15 PM, John Philip japhil...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 My experience with the Jones Loop Bar is quite similar.  I changed to the 
 Loop Bar on my 9:ZERO:7 snow bike this winter and it quickly became clear 
 that pegging my grip at the bar ends wasn't going to work. That position 
 resulted in little front end control climbing but also a distinct lack of 
  front wheel grip on slippery descents .  Choking up-- really using the 
 entire bar-- made a huge difference.  I'm seldom on the ends unless i'm 
 just cruising along on the flat and that's on well consolidated snow. I've 
 yet to try them in the dirt but I'll give them and the 3.8 Knards a try 
 soon. Over all I'm quite impressed with the bar.


 On Monday, April 28, 2014 9:20:46 PM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote:

 I bought the Krampus frame and had it build up, so I don't know anything 
 about the stock build. But the Jones bars have a lot of advantages. For 
 downhill, I like the wide bar-end position. I also like the wide position 
 for just boppin' along. If I want to move a little forward, I can just 
 choke up the bar ends, moving my hands about three inches in and forward, 
 and still have access to the brake levers. And if I want to move more 
 forward, I stick my thumbs inside the loop and grab. Definitely a lot of 
 hand positions.

 Plus, having the loop part works well for strapping things onto the bars 
 for camping.


 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Nils Eng ni...@silvercca.org wrote:

 That makes sense to me-- you're moving weight forward.  I'm super 
 curious about that Jones bars.  Would you mind giving some of your 
 impressions?  I'm especially curious about how they feel compared to the 
 monster whammy bar that came with it.  Hope your tweaks continue to work!


 On Friday, April 25, 2014 9:27:22 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:

  
 I'm a big fan of low, low gears. I have them on both my Atlantises; my 
 Roadeo has pretty low gears too considering I never carry much on it. 
 People always say to me, I don't want lower gears because then I 
 couldn't 
 balance. I never understood that. I don't have a bit of problem riding 
 at 
 2.5 mph for long periods of time when I'm climbing something ridiculously 
 steep on one of my Rivendell bikes.

 But now I understand. I thought when I bought my new Surly Krampus 
 mountain bike I'd be able to climb even steeper dirt roads than I now can 
 climb on my Atlanti. I thought, I have an absurdly low gear on the 
 Krampus 
 (15.6 inches, something like that), I have all the traction in the world, 
 I 
 can climb anything.

 But no. I'm finding that I climb *worse* on the Krampus. It's 
 frustrating. There are dirt sections that I have no trouble on with the 
 Atlantis, with smooth tires, that I can't climb on the Krampus with the 
 knobbies.

 What's going on here? Front-end geometry? Wheel weight? Bottom bracket 
 height? I'm beginning to think I should have bought the Surly ECR (like 
 several people recommended) instead of the Krampus. Or maybe I just need 
 to 
 learn how to climb on this new bike.

 On the other hand, when I bought the bike I also thought I'd be able 
 to go down steep trails that I'm afraid to descend on the Atlantis, and 
 that has proved to be true. My husband took one look at my new bike and 
 said, Wow, you have better traction on that than you have on foot. When I 
 apply the brakes on a steep downhill, the bike *slows down* instead of 
 skidding.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Geometry, climbing, what's going on?

[John Philip]

My experience with the Jones Loop Bar is quite similar.  I changed to the 
Loop Bar on my 9:ZERO:7 snow bike this winter and it quickly became clear 
that pegging my grip at the bar ends wasn't going to work. That position 
resulted in little front end control climbing but also a distinct lack of 
 front wheel grip on slippery descents .  Choking up-- really using the 
entire bar-- made a huge difference.  I'm seldom on the ends unless i'm 
just cruising along on the flat and that's on well consolidated snow. I've 
yet to try them in the dirt but I'll give them and the 3.8 Knards a try 
soon. Over all I'm quite impressed with the bar.

On Monday, April 28, 2014 9:20:46 PM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote:

 I bought the Krampus frame and had it build up, so I don't know anything 
 about the stock build. But the Jones bars have a lot of advantages. For 
 downhill, I like the wide bar-end position. I also like the wide position 
 for just boppin' along. If I want to move a little forward, I can just 
 choke up the bar ends, moving my hands about three inches in and forward, 
 and still have access to the brake levers. And if I want to move more 
 forward, I stick my thumbs inside the loop and grab. Definitely a lot of 
 hand positions.

 Plus, having the loop part works well for strapping things onto the bars 
 for camping.


 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Nils Eng ni...@silvercca.orgjavascript:
  wrote:

 That makes sense to me-- you're moving weight forward.  I'm super curious 
 about that Jones bars.  Would you mind giving some of your impressions? 
  I'm especially curious about how they feel compared to the monster whammy 
 bar that came with it.  Hope your tweaks continue to work!


 On Friday, April 25, 2014 9:27:22 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:

  
 I'm a big fan of low, low gears. I have them on both my Atlantises; my 
 Roadeo has pretty low gears too considering I never carry much on it. 
 People always say to me, I don't want lower gears because then I couldn't 
 balance. I never understood that. I don't have a bit of problem riding at 
 2.5 mph for long periods of time when I'm climbing something ridiculously 
 steep on one of my Rivendell bikes.

 But now I understand. I thought when I bought my new Surly Krampus 
 mountain bike I'd be able to climb even steeper dirt roads than I now can 
 climb on my Atlanti. I thought, I have an absurdly low gear on the Krampus 
 (15.6 inches, something like that), I have all the traction in the world, I 
 can climb anything.

 But no. I'm finding that I climb *worse* on the Krampus. It's 
 frustrating. There are dirt sections that I have no trouble on with the 
 Atlantis, with smooth tires, that I can't climb on the Krampus with the 
 knobbies.

 What's going on here? Front-end geometry? Wheel weight? Bottom bracket 
 height? I'm beginning to think I should have bought the Surly ECR (like 
 several people recommended) instead of the Krampus. Or maybe I just need to 
 learn how to climb on this new bike.

 On the other hand, when I bought the bike I also thought I'd be able to 
 go down steep trails that I'm afraid to descend on the Atlantis, and that 
 has proved to be true. My husband took one look at my new bike and said, 
 Wow, you have better traction on that than you have on foot. When I apply 
 the brakes on a steep downhill, the bike *slows down* instead of skidding.

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Big Front Rack~ Installing without P-Clamps?

[John Philip]

Like Christopher's but on a Hunqapillar:   
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/9066200841/

On Monday, April 7, 2014 12:35:59 PM UTC-4, Eric wrote:

 I want to install my Nitto Big Front Rack to my Atlantis but I'd like to 
 avoid using P-Clamps.

 My fork has mid-fork eyelets so could I use a strut from the eyelets  
 secure them to a Nitto rack nut?

 Sort of like this:

 http://www.rivbike.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/20-187f.jpeg

 Any suggestions? Thanks 


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[RBW] Re: Bosco Bullmoose Bars

[John Philip]

Tallux 12 with Alba.  Dirt drop 10 with both Midge and Woodchipper. 

On Thursday, April 3, 2014 2:32:29 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 For you experienced dirt drop bar folks, what stem do you run (if possible 
 in contrast with an Albatross bar)? I have the Tallux 12 cm with my Albas 
 now. A different tread for road bikes suggested Alba and noodles may be the 
 same stem, so I was planning on starting there and seeing how it goes.

 With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Bosco Bullmoose Bars

[John Philip]

Here's a pic where you can see both the Woodchipper and the Midge. I like 
them both.  For me, all day comfort on the Woodchipper  and great control 
on the trails with the 
Midge. https://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/9477366535/in/set-72157635006896939 
On Monday, March 31, 2014 9:48:28 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Casey and Philip,

 You have me intrigued with the flared off-road drops. For the Sparrow and 
 wood chipper and On One Midge, is the cruising position in the flats on 
 top, as on a road bike? Do they take road levers? What is the difference 
 with different types of aluminum?

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:09:56 PM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote:

 I love flared off-road drops for exactly the reasons you mention.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day

[John Philip]

So true Patrick, but you don't have to get very far of the path to be in 
the thick of it.  We've had more than 130 of snow this season and more in 
the woods. I built up a 9:ZERO:7 fatbike four years ago to supplement the 
Rivs and get me through our longest season. The bike certainly works best 
on consolidated snow and of course temperature, moisture content and snow 
type all make a difference.  I find most frustrating those times when the 
consolidated trail is about as wide as a skier's stance.  It's like riding 
on a plank and keeping a line with my modest skills is difficult at slow 
speeds.  Drop off and I'm up to the hubs at least and if it's even on a 
mild climb I end up walking: there is just no way I can get restarted.  A 
stronger rider might. I find traction and braking the main advantages.  Not 
so much on icy hard conditions, for that the Hunq with studded tires is 
superior, but for everything else in the snow I like the 907.  Front wheel 
traction when descending as well as reliable braking is just so much 
better.  I find I can also ride over deeper well consolidated snow where I 
can't with the Hunq which just digs in. The 907 is also better over soft 
leaf litter and mud, who's own season is about to begin. Some pics here: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/sets/72157643129392314/

On Saturday, March 29, 2014 7:24:17 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Sure, right until you enter trees and foomph! you're up to your hairline 
 in snow on your tiptoes trying to see above the snow. Grin. There is a 
 saying we have for 4x4's here in Colorado. The reason you have them is so 
 you get stuck further from help. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Saturday, March 29, 2014 5:17:38 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:

 Deacon says: 
 It seems to me the fatbike window of ridable snow isn't too much 
 larger than my Hunqapillars for all practical purposes. 

 I suspect the fatbike is way better than a Hunq with 2.25 tires on 
 icy, crusty snow such as might be found after refreezing. One thing I 
 can say about my Krampus is the traction is amazing, and a fatbike is 
 going to have even better traction. 



 On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com 
 wrote: 
  I can make it through 6 of fresh powder on my Hunqapillar with my 
 2.25 
  smart sams. It's when it's deeper that it's challenging. It seems to me 
 the 
  fatbike window of ridable snow isn't too much larger than my 
 Hunqapillars 
  for all practical purposes. I've been in snowshoes in fresh powder up 
 to my 
  navel trying to go uphill. That didn't work so well. Grin. 
  
  With abandon, 
  Patrick 
  
  
  On Saturday, March 29, 2014 12:32:29 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: 
  
  Still, 700C tires fatter than 50 mm and run at sub 30 psi, especially 
 if 
  the tires push wider than 60 and lower than 20, really are better in 
 sand up 
  to 3 than the typical 26 mtb tire of not quite 2 and run at 50 psi 
 as so 
  many of them seem to be. 
  
  I've read that in real snow -- newly fallen, 6 stuff -- even the fat 
  bikes can't make it through. 
  
  
  On Friday, March 28, 2014 8:49:45 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: 
  
  
  The Krampus (and its brother the ECR) have three inch tires. It 
 turns 
  out, three inches is not enough to make the bike a snow bike-- for 
  that you need the Moonlander/Pugsley style bike. So I'll have to 
 visit 
  Minneapolis in the summer instead ;) 
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Current Status

[John Philip]

Not always so glorious;) Tom N. and I rode back to Cumberland. Riv Rally 
East 
2012…. http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/7109411609/in/set-72157629525386656 

On Monday, March 3, 2014 7:56:37 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 Andy,

 Crappy roads again another reason fat tires are optimal. I don't know how 
 you folks weather (pun intended) the extremes as you do. Perhaps, it's the 
 fact that Spring and Fall are so glorious which sustains.

 I'd really enjoy a tour like this video,

 http://vimeo.com/75444916

 Looks to be superb. Look forward to your ride reports.

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 3:52 AM, ascpgh asc...@gmail.com javascript:wrote:

 When riding starts in my group, we're going to have to require helmets 
 and huge tires as it looks from here. 

 Kinder winters for the last two years lulled municipal road departments 
 and those older, more porous streets and roads have simply given up to 
 entropy this winter, returning to their particulate origins. Short of road 
 salt so plows ran yesterday, spalling the already delicate roads. It's 
 going to be more dangerous to ride in a group in the spring on these roads 
 than it is now. The persistent snow pack may be more reminiscent of Siberia 
 than North America, but it sure helps level and bind the degraded roads and 
 streets. 

 Days are getting longer, I could see the blue of the blue of the sky 
 before dawn the other day as I got to work, while it was 3°. Ah the coming 
 days of warmth when all unfreezes and lets go. 

 Andy Cheatham 
 Pittsburgh


 On Sunday, March 2, 2014 9:18:48 AM UTC-5, Marc Irwin wrote:

 It went by here last night leaving a fresh 4 on top of the 10 feet we 
 have already received...sigh.  I'm tired of studded tires.  Ironically, 
 with daylight savings time a week away, I sent out a press release for the 
 local club to announce the beginning of our organized ride season.  It's 
 got to have people rolling on the floor.

 Marc

 On Saturday, March 1, 2014 2:20:32 PM UTC-5, Montclair BobbyB wrote:

 Thanks a LOT Hugh... We're actually expecting the remnants of that 
 storm here in Central NJ (in the form of snow) beginning Sunday, and 
 lasting most of Monday... Estimates range from 6-12 inches, possibly 
 more...  We'll be jealous of the nice weather that no doubt follows your 
 deluge...   

 On Saturday, March 1, 2014 1:57:30 AM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 Yep the first big storm of 2014 in Southern California...for those of 
 you out East jealous of our fair weather, well read about it 
 herehttp://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/and  know that we sometimes 
 have to change plans.

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[RBW] Re: Show me your albatrosses!

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They are Dia-Compe Knob Grips. aka dummy levers or stoker levers.  I got 
them from Velo Orange. Cane Creek makes a more lever shaped version. 
On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 11:41:04 AM UTC-5, truegolden wrote:

 John Philip, I really like your cockpit set up and may go a similar 
 route on my vintage Schwinn Cimarron.
  
 I could see the black knobbie gizmo's would offer a nice position 
 variation for longer rides.
 What's the proper term for them?
  
 For longer rides varying my hand position frequently really helps to 
 prevent numbness, aching hands,
 and keeping the blood flow going in my hands and arms.
  
 I also find standing up fairly often on the pedals and stretching the back 
 and backside helps
 on rides of several hours as does moving my foot position on my platform 
 pedals every so often.
 In summary changing position every so often on contact points of hands, 
 feet,  rear is key for me on long rides.
  
 A great cockpit setup is so essential and this thread is most helpful as 
 I have mostly used road bars in the past.
 All you folks have some very nice bikes and cockpit setups. 
 Thanks for sharing.
  
 Paul in Dallas
  
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 [RBW] Re: Show me your albatrosses!
 John Philip, Feb 10,
   Here's a set of the Ergons on Boscos.  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/7673117838/  


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Re: [RBW] Re: Show me your albatrosses!

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Here's a set of the Ergons on Boscos. 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/7673117838/  
On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:19:23 AM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Cecily,  you use the ergon's on Alba's? I'd love to see pictures as I've 
 considered it myself.  I saw someone using those on the drops of a 
 noodle-like bar on the web somewhere...
 On Feb 10, 2014 12:15 AM, Cecily Walker cecily...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote:

 I use Ergon GPI Biokork grips because I need a wider platform to protect 
 my joints: http://www.ergon-bike.com/us/en/product/gp1-biokork

 I get the look and feel of cork with a little extra cushioning. My wrists 
 don't hurt at all anymore since getting these. 

 On Saturday, February 8, 2014 8:00:38 PM UTC-8, David Stein wrote:

 Awesome setups. I have a trek 650b conversion I'm finishing with an 
 upside down mustache bar. Curious, for those running grips (not tape) what 
 kind of grips do you use, where is a a good place to pick some up outside 
 of the usual box store / mtn bike type grips?

 On Thursday, February 6, 2014 3:42:55 PM UTC-8, Conway Bennett wrote:

 Captain Conway in Chicago here.  I'm an avid reader of the group but a 
 sporadic poster.  In any case I'm a sucker for riv sales campaign so I'm 
 the new owner of some albatrosses which will steering my beloved riv'd out 
 cross check.  So, can all you proud alba mommas and poppas send your 
 flickr 
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[RBW] Re: Show me your albatrosses!

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Here they are flipped:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/9145249656/ I 
liked the forward curve in this position but have changed to Albastsche 
which I prefer.

On Thursday, February 6, 2014 6:42:55 PM UTC-5, Conway Bennett wrote:

 Captain Conway in Chicago here.  I'm an avid reader of the group but a 
 sporadic poster.  In any case I'm a sucker for riv sales campaign so I'm 
 the new owner of some albatrosses which will steering my beloved riv'd out 
 cross check.  So, can all you proud alba mommas and poppas send your flickr 
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[RBW] Re: Bosco interrupted?

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I tried it for a while on my Atlantis. 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/7609435504/   It worked fine although 
the  inverse lever/canti combo I used was difficult to adjust and was very 
mushy.  I've since changed to Albastache on this bike.  I never much liked 
the stem shifters in this setup. The interrupters worked fine.

On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 9:50:25 PM UTC-5, BSWP wrote:

 Just wondering and pondering on the wonderful ponderosa of possibilities, 
 and so I'll ask - has anyone put reverse-action brake levers on Bosco bars, 
 and also run the cables along the bars, under tape, to a pair of 
 interruptors at the stem? Seems like that setup could provide a dreamy 
 surface for hand positions with brakes at both ends, and nothing inbetween 
 to catch your hands as they move forth and back.

 - Andrew, Berkeley


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[RBW] Re: Bosco interrupted?

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The adjusters on the interrupters were helpful but with these inverse 
levers the feel was just too mushy and weak regardless of whatever I tried 
with the various brake variables.  I think René reported on this list that 
he had better luck with Paul inverse levers with this setup. 
On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 11:19:00 AM UTC-5, BSWP wrote:

 Thanks, those are wildly helpful images, and especially showing the 
 shortened Boscos. I've never run the inverse levers, but can imagine the 
 adjustment is different - all up at the brakes, though the interrupters 
 must have given some adjustment, too, with their barrels, no?

 - Andrew

 On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 2:25:42 AM UTC-8, John Philip wrote:

 I tried it for a while on my Atlantis.  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/7609435504/   It worked fine 
 although the  inverse lever/canti combo I used was difficult to adjust and 
 was very mushy.  I've since changed to Albastache on this bike.  I never 
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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

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Here's our Santana set up with Albas front and rear. 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/12235116233/  I've had it since the 
mid 90s.  The rides these days are shorter and flatter as my wife is much 
more comfortable on her single and our overall power has decreased.  She is 
very sensitive to bumps.  The sprung saddle helps but communication is 
everything.  It's great fun and our go to picnic bike.

On Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:39:50 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:

 And could I put Albas on the back for my stoker wife?

 I am going to do the Six Pillars Century ride in Maryland this year, Lord 
 willing.

 They have a 37 miler my wife might be interested in.

 I told her if we had a tandem she could go on the full century with me and 
 just stop pedalling whenever she gets tired. At least I think you can do 
 that on a tandem.

 Anyone here have any ideas about tandems? Is steel still real, or are 
 lighter materials in order for a frame of that size?

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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?

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Sounds a lot like mine and things turned out very well indeed! 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/12241381705/
On Friday, January 31, 2014 4:06:03 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 OUCH!  Owned!

 In reality, he's always begging to go on S24Os, so I expect he'll be game 
 for a lot of things this summer.  Although he likes playing video games as 
 much as any pre-teen, he also is an expert at both Cribbage and Pinochle, 
 so I'm not going to expect him to be a completely run of the mill teen.  

 On Friday, January 31, 2014 12:56:46 PM UTC-8, stevef wrote:

 ...it's going to be on like Donkey Kong...his dad is a huge dork...

 Heh, phrases like that probably won't help your case...B-)

 Steve


 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Curtis McKenzie cmc...@gmail.comwrote:

 Bill,

 Enjoy the window for it is ephemeral.

 Curtis who knows from experience McKenzie


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 My tandem is an Ibis Touche.  700c with Jack Browns currently.  My wife 
 and I have only ridden it a couple times, before having kids.  I did a 
 century on it with a guest stoker about 4 years ago, though, and it was 
 great.  It has a unicrown fork with tons of clearance, so I could go a lot 
 bigger than a Jack Brown in front.  In back it's a lot cozier.  I test-fit 
 some 700x37 Paselas.  It cleared but not with enough margin to actually 
 leave them on there.  Now that I'm a more experienced fender-fitter, I may 
 try to get fenders around the Jack Browns.  The bike is cream, and I'm 
 wondering if cream longboards would match or clash.  

 My 12 year old son is *almost* tall enough to stoke.  I never bothered 
 putting a kiddie conversion on, because I had a Burley Piccolo to use. 
  Once he can stoke, then it's going to be on like Donkey Kong.  Hopefully 
 there will be a small window where he's tall enough to ride the tandem 
 with 
 me and not old enough to realize his dad is a huge dork and not want to 
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[RBW] Re: 13 shots for 13...2013 that is...and maybe a few more...

[John Philip]

Great pics all...Here's mine. A difficult year but great riding just the 
same.  http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/sets/72157639593326264/
Cheers,
John

On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 9:00:55 PM UTC-5, Meade Anderson wrote:

 its hard to  pick just a few photos from so many great rides however I 
 pared it down to 13, well make that just a few more than 13..anyone else 
 with a similar compilation should post away...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/julianmeade/sets/72157638895721164/

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[RBW] Re: Soma C line: first ride impressions

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I've also mounted a set of C lines. On Dyads they mounted easily, straight 
and true and measure 37mm at 65#.  I have about 40 miles on them so far and 
I must say they are quite comfortable and do well at smoothing out our 
chronically winter damaged roads here in central NY. The fender line is a 
bit tight under the VO fenders I am running on the Hilsen but there still 
is a bit of room still for some fiddling. Here's a pic: 
 http://tinyurl.com/mzste9c

On Saturday, November 2, 2013 7:46:48 PM UTC-4, dougP wrote:

 Today's mail brought good news in the form of a pair of the new Soma C 
 line 700 x 38c tires (
 http://store.oceanaircycles.com/products/soma-c-line-tire-700c-x-38mm) 
 from Ocean Air Cycles.  I had ordered these on the pre-sale a few weeks ago 
  have been looking forward to trying them out.  These will replace my 
 trusty Schwalbes for everyday use, although I'll likely revert for loaded 
 tours.

 First, they mounted easily without tools or talc on the Mavic A-719 rims 
 on my Atlantis, and were straight  true.  At 60 psi, they measure 37 mm 
 actual width, immediately after mounting, so I expect them to grow to their 
 spec'd 38 mm with some time at pressure.  Nothing left to do except wheel 
 out the door  give 'em a try.  

 What a difference in ride quality from what I've grown accustomed to!  
 These really are nice riding tires.  A short spin of about 20 miles is all 
 I had time for but plenty of railroad tracks  crappy pavement showed them 
 to be quite comfortable.  The lighter weight (claimed 400 grams) means they 
 accelerate away from stops  climb hills noticeably better.  Just all 
 around a more fun ride!  

 The big test will be flat resistance and my lack of patience in dealing 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Large Front with AHH?

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I used Nitto hardware on my Bombadil as well and it worked out 
fine... http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/8477467738/ 
On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 4:25:09 AM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote:

 So, I tried using the clamps. They're really squirrelly. 

 But I noticed the slots are too wide for a m4 screw. What about the m6 
 bits from the mark's rack I just removed? 

 And, thus... 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Large Front with AHH?

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I agree. I never liked the p clamp mount. The Nitto hardware makes for easy on 
and off as well. I've mounted the rack on two bikes with only slight 
adjustment. 

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[RBW] Re: Mounting a Dyno Light on a Nitto Mini Front Rack with a Basket?

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Here's how I did it. 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/8721851272/in/photostream/lightbox/
On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 12:06:30 PM UTC-4, Rick Houston wrote:

 Going to finally put my wife's Betty Foy together, and she wants the front 
 rack she previously had mounted on her Quickbeam installed on the Betty; 
 she has a Wald basket mounted on it, and now I'm wondering where the best 
 place would be to mount the dyno light we bought. Any ideas? Thanks for 
 your thoughts!

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[RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

[John Philip]

I like the 50mm BA as well but agree with Bobby they are NOT good in mud. 
 The last time I rode the CO it was wet and muddy.  I ran 50mm Duremes and 
was glad for the tread.

On Sunday, February 17, 2013 7:21:05 AM UTC-5, shawn wrote:

 I am doing the GAP and CO from Pittsburgh to Washington D.C. in May and 
 was wondering what the opinion was of using 50mm Big Apples for this ride.
 Thanks in advance.
 Shawn 


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[RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

[John Philip]

Here's a pic of my 68 Atlantis on the GAP last spring on the Riv Rally. 
 The tires are 40 mm Dureme The fenders are 60mm Berthoud fitted for 50mm 
tires. I chose the 40mm tire for this trip because... I just had a 
feeling:)  I was glad for the extra clearance. I had to stop on the CO on 
the other trip I mentioned more than once to clear mud from between the 
fender and tire while running 50s and 60mm PB Cascadia fenders.

On Monday, February 18, 2013 8:20:23 AM UTC-5, shawn wrote:

 All thanks for the input. I am glad to hear that many of you have ridden 
 this ride with BA and were happy with their performance. I have only ridden 
 a short distance on the BAs and they feel great, especially going down my 
 long rough gravel drive way. I was concerned that the tires might be too 
 heavy and slow, but again it is a tour and not a race. After reading a few 
 of the comments about mud on the CO, I am starting to wonder if I might be 
 better with the Big or Little Ben tire. I worked really hard to get my 60mm 
 Berthoud installed with the 50mm BAs and was concerned that if I did drop 
 down in tire size the fenders would not look right with smaller tires. Here 
 is a pic of my Atlantis.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/greenwayrider/8483800970/in/photostream

 I know this is subjective, but what is the smallest tire you can run with 
 60mm Berthound fenders and maintain a good fender line? 

 Thanks 


 On Sunday, February 17, 2013 7:21:05 AM UTC-5, shawn wrote:

 I am doing the GAP and CO from Pittsburgh to Washington D.C. in May and 
 was wondering what the opinion was of using 50mm Big Apples for this ride.
 Thanks in advance.
 Shawn 



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[RBW] Re: Big Apples for GAP and CO tour

[John Philip]

Here it  
is:   http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/7109411767/in/set-72157629525386656

On Monday, February 18, 2013 8:42:53 AM UTC-5, John Philip wrote:

 Here's a pic of my 68 Atlantis on the GAP last spring on the Riv Rally. 
  The tires are 40 mm Dureme The fenders are 60mm Berthoud fitted for 50mm 
 tires. I chose the 40mm tire for this trip because... I just had a 
 feeling:)  I was glad for the extra clearance. I had to stop on the CO on 
 the other trip I mentioned more than once to clear mud from between the 
 fender and tire while running 50s and 60mm PB Cascadia fenders.

 On Monday, February 18, 2013 8:20:23 AM UTC-5, shawn wrote:

 All thanks for the input. I am glad to hear that many of you have ridden 
 this ride with BA and were happy with their performance. I have only ridden 
 a short distance on the BAs and they feel great, especially going down my 
 long rough gravel drive way. I was concerned that the tires might be too 
 heavy and slow, but again it is a tour and not a race. After reading a few 
 of the comments about mud on the CO, I am starting to wonder if I might be 
 better with the Big or Little Ben tire. I worked really hard to get my 60mm 
 Berthoud installed with the 50mm BAs and was concerned that if I did drop 
 down in tire size the fenders would not look right with smaller tires. Here 
 is a pic of my Atlantis.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/greenwayrider/8483800970/in/photostream

 I know this is subjective, but what is the smallest tire you can run with 
 60mm Berthound fenders and maintain a good fender line? 

 Thanks 


 On Sunday, February 17, 2013 7:21:05 AM UTC-5, shawn wrote:

 I am doing the GAP and CO from Pittsburgh to Washington D.C. in May and 
 was wondering what the opinion was of using 50mm Big Apples for this ride.
 Thanks in advance.
 Shawn 



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[RBW] Re: Nitto Big Front Rack fitting issue

[John Philip]

I was able to mount the Big Rack to my Bombadil using Nitto hardware 
skipping the p clamps:  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/8477467738/in/photostream

On Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:35:25 PM UTC-5, Scot Brooks wrote:

 Here are some images showing the fitment. The rack is perfectly level in 
 this position and you can see that it's just not possible to get it to the 
 eyelet. I did manage to get the p-clamps quite secure with a system of 
 spacers and washers that compensated for the p-clamps' natural urge to put 
 the screws into a wonky angle during tightening. Next step is smaller 
 screws I guess. 

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[RBW] Re: 2 Top Tube Observations

[John Philip]

I have both a 68 Atlantis and a 64 dtt Bombadil.  I'm 6'5 238#.  I've 
ridden both bikes with the same loads, same bags, same racks and in the 
case of this large frame it's very clear the Bombadil handles the load much 
better.  On the Atlantis I can feel the head tube twisting and the frame 
springing when moving the bar back and fourth with a front load.  Much less 
with the Bombadil.  The Bombadil is much steadier climbing loaded and has 
no shimmy on fast descents loaded or not.  If I don't end up selling the 
Atlantis to Kelly :) I may just have a second top true added.  I guess I'm 
a 10% er :) 

On Saturday, February 2, 2013 4:26:19 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:

 I kinda suspect that 90% of the 2TT is because Grant thought it would look 
 cool, with a side benefit that it would distinguish current Rivs from older 
 Rivs and most competitor frames. You can attribute various functions to the 
 extra tube, but, as the preceding discussion demonstrates, most are in the 
 realm of the theoretical.

 I have a 60 cm 2TT Sam sitting in my shop. I thought it was weird at 
 first, but it's growing on me, and now I like it. Probably good that it's 
 too big for me...


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