[RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem
If you were blind to the Betty beauty, you would enjoy riding the Clementine more? On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 11:13:06 AM UTC-7, Cinza wrote: > > I have and LOVE my Betty.. > But I am considering a Clem. > I commute around town. > > What I love about Betty (besides being a beauty) is the ride. > I wonder if anyone has both and can discuss the difference in ride and fit > between the two rides. > > The reason I am thinking of Clem is the easier step over/through. Other > than this I have no reason to change frames. > > Thanks for any thoughts on the difference in terms of riding experience > (vs frame details). > > Cinza > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/63ebe8cb-c3a3-4631-b78a-3f400ba75646%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem
Closing their doors? Would be tragic, every time my BF is complimented for being beautiful, i reply it rides as beautiful than it looks On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 11:13:06 AM UTC-7, Cinza wrote: > > I have and LOVE my Betty.. > But I am considering a Clem. > I commute around town. > > What I love about Betty (besides being a beauty) is the ride. > I wonder if anyone has both and can discuss the difference in ride and fit > between the two rides. > > The reason I am thinking of Clem is the easier step over/through. Other > than this I have no reason to change frames. > > Thanks for any thoughts on the difference in terms of riding experience > (vs frame details). > > Cinza > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2b737cbf-536f-4410-a2e4-59498ef51738%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Anniversary Mixte - info wanted
Leah mentioned an awaited Mixtie... I tried to find more info online but any number of other irrelevant items come to my page, Can people talk about what they know, what they hope for, what they expect? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9cb5eed2-2ef1-4543-8b36-e73fe4eba2bd%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem
Yes, I would only have one bike. I did not know the fat tires make for a feeling of speed, I was concerned the tires would make the ride feel heavier. You've made me curious about the Anniversary Mixte", I didn't know there was another bike to look forward to. I'll look to find out more on the Mixte.. Step through is the only reason I'd change my bike. Thank you very much. Anyone care to post on the Mixtie... I will be happy to read. Cinza On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 11:13:06 AM UTC-7, Cinza wrote: > > I have and LOVE my Betty.. > But I am considering a Clem. > I commute around town. > > What I love about Betty (besides being a beauty) is the ride. > I wonder if anyone has both and can discuss the difference in ride and fit > between the two rides. > > The reason I am thinking of Clem is the easier step over/through. Other > than this I have no reason to change frames. > > Thanks for any thoughts on the difference in terms of riding experience > (vs frame details). > > Cinza > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f5504b32-ca7c-4d6e-a979-793ac3879f1f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Betty VS Clem
I have and LOVE my Betty.. But I am considering a Clem. I commute around town. What I love about Betty (besides being a beauty) is the ride. I wonder if anyone has both and can discuss the difference in ride and fit between the two rides. The reason I am thinking of Clem is the easier step over/through. Other than this I have no reason to change frames. Thanks for any thoughts on the difference in terms of riding experience (vs frame details). Cinza -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f1a89d0e-33a4-4e30-8a7f-aa6769c48db6%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?
On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 12:06:32 PM UTC-7, Cinza wrote: > > I just found out the Kryptonite lock with a barrel key is easy for thieves > as of late. > What locks do you like and why? > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?
On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 5:18:31 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > I was just the other night looking at a couple of youtube videos that > showed the TiGr mini (1) being picked in less than 30 seconds, and (2) > being cut with bolt cutters also in a matter of seconds. > On 4/24/19 12:04 AM, Doug Bloch wrote: > > I have the TiGr mini and I love it. > https://www.tigrlock.com/ > > I also using security bolts on my wheels, stem, seatpost, and saddle I bought > from Wabi Cycles. > > Doug > > > -- > Steve Palincsar > Alexandria, Virginia > USA > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?
Thank You, this is most helpful . . (I'm guessing it is a barrel if it looks like a barrel? I got my last one 7-8 years ago, round key) On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 5:26:09 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > But Kryptonite hasn't used barrel keys locks in many years. The "barrel > of a ball point pen" vulnerability dates back to the early 2000s, and their > locks haven't used cylindrical keys in certainly the last decade or more. > On 4/23/19 11:13 PM, Cinza wrote: > > Definitely going to check Pitlocks, but the reason I asked about locks is > my bike mechanic just informed kryptonite locks are no longer safe, bike > thieves seem to have an easy technique for the barrel key locks. > > On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 7:57:30 PM UTC-7, David Bivins wrote: >> >> With the pitlocks and a Kryptonite u-lock, you can put a mount on your >> bike for carrying the u-lock and you don't have to worry about chains and >> cables. The weight is integrated into your frame, kinda. It's also really >> ugly. >> There's another lock/chain combo called the Hiplok - the chain integrates >> a plastic clip so that you can wear the chain/padlock combo as a belt. It's >> not uncomfortable for me. But it's heavy. I bring it sometimes when I don't >> know what the lockable situation will be, or as an extra lock when we're >> biking as a family. >> >> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 10:28 PM Cinza wrote: >> >>> Wonder if there will be some really good lightweight locks one of these >>> days. I hate hauling a basket full of chains, cables and locks. >>> >>> -- > Steve Palincsar > Alexandria, Virginia > USA > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?
Thanks. Handsome lock, I'll check this out. On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 9:04:47 PM UTC-7, Doug Bloch wrote: > > I have the TiGr mini and I love it. > > https://www.tigrlock.com/ > > I also using security bolts on my wheels, stem, seatpost, and saddle I > bought from Wabi Cycles. > > Doug > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?
Definitely going to check Pitlocks, but the reason I asked about locks is my bike mechanic just informed kryptonite locks are no longer safe, bike thieves seem to have an easy technique for the barrel key locks. On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 7:57:30 PM UTC-7, David Bivins wrote: > > With the pitlocks and a Kryptonite u-lock, you can put a mount on your > bike for carrying the u-lock and you don't have to worry about chains and > cables. The weight is integrated into your frame, kinda. It's also really > ugly. > There's another lock/chain combo called the Hiplok - the chain integrates > a plastic clip so that you can wear the chain/padlock combo as a belt. It's > not uncomfortable for me. But it's heavy. I bring it sometimes when I don't > know what the lockable situation will be, or as an extra lock when we're > biking as a family. > > On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 10:28 PM Cinza > > wrote: > >> Wonder if there will be some really good lightweight locks one of these >> days. I hate hauling a basket full of chains, cables and locks. >> >> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?
Wonder if there will be some really good lightweight locks one of these days. I hate hauling a basket full of chains, cables and locks. I have two dual shackle u locks from Arbus--big and bigger (meaning heavy > and heavier). The plan is to use heavier one to lock bike and one wheel to > fixed object and the other wheel to bike frame or fixed object. Theives > would have to make four cuts to steal bike (or just two if they wanted to > carry it away). In reality, I'm so nervous about my Riv being stolen in the > city, that I don't ride it if I need to lock it. I'd be ok with my setup > if I were to lock it in suburbs. > > On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 3:06:32 PM UTC-4, Cinza wrote: >> >> I just found out the Kryptonite lock with a barrel key is easy for >> thieves as of late. >> What locks do you like and why? >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What is the difference between the Betty Foy and Cheviot?
Thank you.. I had to look up chain stays. Enjoyed your trek up Mt Baldy. wrote: > Longer chain stays give stability and smooth handling, turning, climbing, > descending, without loss of agility or anything else I can suss out. Gus > Boots Willsen is an extreme example of this. > https://deaconpatrick.org/riding-kings-crown-easter-morn > > With abandon, > Patrick > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?
Bicycle Belle, Thank you. Good to know. Is there only one size Pitluck for front wheels? On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 3:05:25 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > > Cinza- since we both have Foys, I wanted to chime in. I tried to use > Pitlock skewers in my Betz last summer and the mechanics could not get the > skewer to fit my front wheel. Too small. The back - no issue. I don’t know > why. I’ve said before I’m not a mechanic, and now I’m riding around with > just the one rear pit locked wheel. I do have fenders and the Nitto Big > Front Rack, so maybe that matters? Someone will know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?
Thank you. I'm up for the pitlocks and will consider the Mini U On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 1:09:35 PM UTC-7, Shoji Takahashi wrote: > > Hi, > I like Kryptonite Mini U-lock with pitlocks securing wheels and seatpost. > > I find Mini U is fast locking and removal with favorable weight/security. > With reasonable places to lock, it's also likely to hold the bike upright. > Larger U-locks might be easier to find locking locations, but the larger > size is heavier, easier to defeat in leverage attacks, and bike is more > likely to twist and fall. > > I have Abus folding locks-- work ok, but the folding mechanism is not as > convenient as I thought. (Rivets prevent rotation in third dimension, > limiting its ability to wrap around some objects.) Also much slower to lock > and remove compared to U-locks. > > I also have various cable locks. Those work fine, but Mini-U is probably > viewed by thieves as more difficult to defeat. > > I am intrigued by TIGR locks. It would be lighter than Mini-U, and design > seems to-be similar use scenario as Mini-U. > > (BTW: I really like how Pitlocks removed my worry about wheels being > stolen. This means that Mini-U can be used to secure only the bike frame if > I can't find an appropriate pole to Sheldon Brown lock method. > https://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html) > > Good luck! > shoji > Arlington MA > > > > On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 3:06:32 PM UTC-4, Cinza wrote: >> >> I just found out the Kryptonite lock with a barrel key is easy for >> thieves as of late. >> What locks do you like and why? >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What is the difference between the Betty Foy and Cheviot?
Thank you. I read a note from Grant Peterson mentioning a longer chainstay, but don't recall if he said why he prefers one to another. Benefit of a longer chainstay? On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 12:12:54 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > The chainstays are longer on the Cheviot than they are on the Betty Foy > > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito, ca > > On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 12:07:12 PM UTC-7, Cinza wrote: >> >> I'm looking at a photo of the Cheviot and it looks just like my Betty >> except the paint is different, lugs are different, but shape of the frame >> seems the same >> >> Thank you. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] New Here. I am thinking of selling my Betty Foy, any advice on value?
hmm.. I have to check to see if I have been hoping of by levering off the seat as you describe.. probably I do. But I solved my problem by lowering my handlebars which are wide and constricting and leveling my saddle with the spanner wrench The saddle was dreadfully saggy and tilted upwards as well. Life is easier now and its a slide off the seat rather digging myself out of a sling On Saturday, April 20, 2019 at 10:50:34 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Unfortunately bikes really aren't designed for what you're trying to do. > If you can't find a curb at a stop-light/sign to reach your foot out to, > then you need to push your right foot down on the pedal and lever off the > saddle as you reach your left foot down to the road to stop. > > Now you should have both feet on the ground and standing over the frame. > Spin the right pedal forward to step on again, then push on it with your > right foot to start pedaling again as you lever back up onto the saddle. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: New Here. I am thinking of selling my Betty Foy, any advice on value?
Missing from the picture...frame is just a smidge large which was not a big problem as I liked riding high till recently. I just switched to a lower profile saddle and all is good. Thanks for writing. On Saturday, April 20, 2019 at 4:13:47 PM UTC-7, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote: > > On Saturday, April 20, 2019 at 3:55:24 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote: >> >> I see. You are saying you can’t put one foot down, not both feet >> simultaneously. I think there was some confusion about that. Seems like you >> know plenty about riding and stopping. I’m a little mystified about how a >> bike that otherwise fits would not allow for what your picture shows. What >> size were your other bikes? > > > Indeed! Rivendell bikes tend to have low bottom brackets and slack seat > tube angles, so as far as conventional bikes go, they're as easy to pull > off one-footed stops as any. Something's missing from the picture. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?
I just found out the Kryptonite lock with a barrel key is easy for thieves as of late. What locks do you like and why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
