[RBW] Re: FS: Dromarti leather cycling shoes

[Ray Varella]

Thanks Ted,
I had a bootmaker look at my boots on my feet once and say “pour half a 
bottle of rubbing alcohol in each boot and then wear them”.
It did a good job of stretching the leather. 
My left foot is a triple E and the right is a double E

Ray
On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 9:35:09 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 11:24:29 AM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>
> To further hijack this thread…Ted, have you found shoes to fit wide feet?
>
>
> I went from the Dromarti to Shimano XC5 (marginally wider than Dromarti) 
> to Lake MX1 wide (definitely wider). I can wear the Lake shoes for rides 
> that aren't too long (say 2 hours or less) and be reasonably comfortable. 
> Of course, Lake has discontinued it. Lake seems to be the only company that 
> has realized that a wider toe box is a selling point.
>
> The great thing about the Dromartis is they are real leather and will 
> stretch to fit your foot. I was just finding that it wouldn't stretch 
> enough to relieve the pressure on the bunionettes on my feet.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee WI USA
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Dromarti leather cycling shoes

[Ray Varella]

To further hijack this thread…Ted, have you found shoes to fit wide feet?
I’ve contacted Dromarti but they haven’t seemed receptive to making a run 
of wider shoes. 
Maybe if enough people showed interest and offered to place deposits. 

Ray
On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 8:10:07 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 7:10:21 PM UTC-5 dalin...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> ... They fit me like Shimano shoes. Would not advise guys with super wide 
> feet to apply. 
>
>
> I concur. As I've noted elsewhere, I've gone to wide "feet shaped" shoes 
> and platforms. At the risk of hijacking the thread, I also have a pair of 
> Dromarti shoes, black, size 43, available. And some Shimano XC5's, gray, 43.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee WI USA
>

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Re: [RBW] 26.8 seatposts with generous setback

[Ray Varella]

Leah,
   Would cutting a couple inches off your seatpost solve your problem?
A 350mm long seatpost is pretty long and likely intended for frames with 
very extreme slope to the top tube
Standard Rivendell issue seatposts measure 250 mm from the seat clamp to 
the end of the shaft. 
350mm would add approximately 4 inches to the length. 
Does that help clarify your question?

Ray
 
On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 9:01:32 PM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Leah,
>
> I do not know an answer for your question. I did own an older version of 
> the IRD Wayback seat post only to discover that I could not get the seat 
> post down far enough to my liking on my Clem. I sold the post. 
> My next move was to find and buy a Sakae Ringyo MTE-100 27.2mm post with a 
> shim to fit my 29.8mm seat tube.  I have had these posts on other bikes of 
> mine in the past. I did find one on eBay late last year and bought it. It 
> solved a number of problems for me. One was the amount of setback I wanted 
> and secondly, I could set the post down a lot farther than I could than 
> with the IRD Wayback post.  I remain very happy and pleased to this day 
> with my long torso and short limbs. 
>
> May I suggest that you buy a Sakae Ringyo MTE-100 seat post off of eBay 
> with a shim. I do not know how much setback you need. I know it may not be 
> the most pretty post, but it solves some problems that I had. 
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/266342844000?hash=item3e03454660:g:frAAAOSwo81kmkUz=enc%3AAQAI8FLf%2FUeKjieKezFbVz6E9gAvKDh5HcoG4VtgU1iFW1NWJlrtlB8aYsomq%2FYB8kFjNEmIJZ7CJ4nQahP8fzyDoHavsHhcO2LwqhfxAJrSBKgR80ofpTP54ZjWbfYdRid7uciTYf4BOhd244iPZbPLcmdTzQLGOxptIGt7rApnbIY5yUiDBghaCQRn1Ci%2F0mS173o4kIWrxOtpCHwQVWuR1AHrztBe%2BTDTMlniIK77f%2FrUYuDI4NyxDtm5MoiCPm82jMCnAbU9ZVjHHw61%2BbP14LSz8ZqMh5wTXORNvUi%2BSjvE3Z%2BU3TK7ppru64Sb9n%2Fz%2Bg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8b_7YOyYg
>
> Trying to help.
>
> I put a piece of white tape on the upper part of the post to mark as a 
> stopping point of insertion as shown in the picture. 
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA. [image: Terry Cite X Gel Saddle after modifications to SR 
> MTE-100 seat post - March 8, 2023.jpg]
>
> On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 5:32:54 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know if you can get the seatpost lower with the new design? 
>> My IRD post from Riv needs 5 inches and I’ve got it totally slammed. It 
>> would be nice to know I had a post I could put a little lower. Also, the 
>> product page shows lengths of 250-350mm and the way I read it, it is 
>> measuring the shaft of the seat post, not the setback? How would one know 
>> which length to choose?
>> Leah
>>
>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 3:55:06 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> Very Good Max ! 
>>>
>>> I got the Soma email that showed the seatpost and noticed it looked 
>>> different, as it was. It's been redesigned with a new forged head and now 
>>> is 30mm setback rather than the 50mm. 
>>>
>>> Just so anyone ordering the post understand IRD doesn't make the 
>>> previous version anymore. Read the fine print ! 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 2:58:18 PM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>>>
 Things are working for me without swapping seatposts and simply by 
 pushing my saddle forward instead of backwards.

 If anyone is still looking, the IRD posts seem to be back at Somafab: 
 https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/ird-seatpost-wayback-compact-6972?search=compact#attr=346,4463,1073

 Max

 On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 8:08:15 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> I'd guess it's working out for Max since he hasn't posted an update, 
> that's usually how it goes when all is well !  
>
> I can't say bike fitting is mysterious, I'd call it intuitive. While 
> others can help steer you in the right direction, the fine tuning is all 
> an 
> "inside job", so to speak. Just as no one can eat or breathe for another, 
> the Life that Lives In and As ALL isn't up for "negotiation". It MUST BE 
> ! 
>
> Since I've been re-familiarizing myself with riding in road position 
> with DT shifters and new saddle, I've moved mine forward some 15mm+ from 
> when I started with it. It just keeps feeling better, as in more 
> efficient/effective use of what strengths I have. Yesterday I 
> unexpectedly 
> found myself riding up a knarly hill that has some really steep sections. 
> I 
> had not ridden it in a long time and surely had my doubts as to doing it. 
> It took a while to get in the groove and took to standing on the initial 
> very steepest parts, but soon found myself seated and going up just fine 
> in 
> the 36/32 high gear. I used to have to stand the whole way. I could feel 
> how much more effective it is to be able to use the quad/front muscles 
> more 
> by sitting more forward. When I was too far back I'd have to either stand 
> or go to a lower granny gear and felt weak. My road bike 

[RBW] Re: Riv Riders Interactive Map is Live!

[Ray Varella]

I would use the address of the local police station for my location. 

I use their phone number whenever I get spam inquiries on something. 

Ray

On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 6:45:51 PM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:

> I'm playing with the idea of riders being able to add a photo of their 
> bike such that when one clicks on a map pin not only do you get info in the 
> sidebar but also an image of a beautiful bicycle. (You can check out the 
> pin I added at RBW as an example)
>
> Could be a fun addition. Of course, anyone who has more than one Riv would 
> have to make a choice. 
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:05:38 AM UTC-7 Drew Saunders wrote:
>
>> Good idea! I found the street address of my nearest post office and 
>> changed my answer to that. It's close enough, and if any bike thieves go 
>> there, they'll be very, very, confused.
>>
>> On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 10:05:08 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> This is great.  Thanks for putting it together! 
>>>  I have couple of suggestions, more for the participant pi-droppers than 
>>> for John:
>>>
>>> 1)  Please be cautious and think twice about listing your actual home 
>>> address.  Especially if you live somewhere like Denver or Oakland, where 
>>> bike theft is a major industry.  Thieves could use this info to stake-out 
>>> and target your place.
>>>
>>> 2)  it would be great to list the model(s) and size(s) of bikes you 
>>> own.  So many times I wish I could have test-ridden something, but didn't 
>>> know how to find an example nearby.  This could really help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 5:33:44 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:
>>>
 The map is growing nicely! Got riders in Oceania and Europe on the map! 
 Still awaiting the first rider in Sri Lanka to pop up.

 If you've added yourself, to the map please note that you can edit your 
 responses in case you...I don't know...get a new bike? Change your riding 
 style? Misspelled your name? Move from Arizona to Babylonia? 

 To do this, simply click on the 'Riv Rider Registration' and you can 
 choose to 'Edit your response.' 

 Cheers, John

 On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 12:59:58 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:

> The Map of Riv Riders is ready!* Thanks to Dave's example of the 
> 'Unicycle Community Map' I've put together a similar interactive map that 
> Riv Riders can now populate with your location. 
>
> As mentioned, the purpose of this map is to help Riv riders find each 
> other, connect and plan rides.
>
> Here's a link to the site:
>
> Map of Rivendell Riders 
> 
>
> There is a Google form registration that, once completed and manually 
> updated by me, will put a pin of your location on the map. 
>
> You can 'drop' this pin in a couple of ways:
>
> 1. Provide your address
>
> 2. Provide a random address in your city or town
>
> 3. Provide map coordinates (latitude, longitude)
>
> Check it out and if it seems interesting to you then register and wait 
> for your pin to show up. 
>
> Cheers, John
>
> *I'll call it a beta version because I just learned how to connect 
> Google forms, maps, and sites together. Seems to work well though.
>


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[RBW] Re: Dynamo Wiring inside the Fork and Frame?

[Ray Varella]

Matthew,
Have you tried the wire that Velocity Lumino sells?
It’s much thinner than some of the other typically available wire for 
dynamos and is definitely up to the task. 

JMHO
Ray

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 9:53:38 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> In the weeks to come I’m going to be revisiting the wire-inside-the-fork 
> trick. However, the hole is too small for the existing dynamo wires and I 
> do not want to enlarge the hole.
>
> What would happen if I used a smaller-gauge wire inside the fork, to 
> connect the dynamo to the headlight?
>
> Will a smaller-gauge wire be unable to handle the voltage/amperage from 
> the dynamo? Will the headlight and taillight outputs be weaker? Or will the 
> difference between the existing/stock wire and a smaller gauge be 
> imperceptible?
>
> As always, your wisdom, advice, experience, and opinions are appreciated!
>
> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 10:13:40 PM UTC-8 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, 
>
> Most bikes I see with the SON dynamo have the wire wound around the right 
> front fork blade. I want to run the wire inside the fork using the small 
> hole near the dropout. 
>
> I’ve already fished a thin wire through the fork as a leader i.e. I can 
> attach the leader to the SON dynamo wire and pull it through the fork, 
> unless the dynamo wire is too thick. Below are photos of the leader wire I 
> fished through the fork. 
>
> Is this possible, or is it a bad idea? Has anyone here managed to achieve 
> this setup? If so, how did you do it, and please post photos of your 
> internal wiring setups! 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Ruthworks Storm Series Micah or Brevet handlebar bag

[Ray Varella]

Pm sent

Ray

On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 11:51:25 AM UTC-7 andyree...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello group,
> If anyone has a Ruthworks Storm Series Micah or Brevet handlebar bag 
> they'd like to sell, I'd gladly buy! 
>
> Cheers, 
> Andrew 
> Franklin TN
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[RBW] Re: Latest Riv Emailed Newsletter

[Ray Varella]

Is Joan Baez in the photo?
She had a birthday a week or two ago

Ray

On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 9:37:46 AM UTC-8 George Schick wrote:

> Anyone know why an old photo of what appears to be a very young Paul 
> McCartney is included in a kind of collage pics from Riv headquarters in 
> the latest (and in some previous) newsletters?
>
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Re: [RBW] Clem L vs Rosco Bebe

[Ray Varella]

Great picture Slin


Ray
On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 1:29:04 PM UTC-8 Slin wrote:

> Here's mine!
>
> [image: IMG_0421.jpg]
>
> On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 1:19:45 PM UTC-8 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Will confirmed that the Clem is in fact more Rosco Baby like and would 
>> make a great kid-carrier!
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 12:41 PM, Slin  wrote:
>>
>> That's pretty cool to hear that the Rosco Bebe rides great even without 
>> the front load. I was looking at them back in the day too and thought I 
>> read that they were expected to feel weird without that load. 
>>
>> From what I understand, the Clem has become more Rosco-Bebe-like over the 
>> years, with a longer effective top tube, etc. I certainly love using mine 
>> for kid hauling :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 3:11:23 PM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone ridden both a Clem L and a Rosco Bebe enough to comment on 
>>> the differences?
>>>
>>> My bebe has long since outgrown the Yepp Mini front seat, and I'm now 
>>> using the Bebe to drag a copilot.
>>>
>>> Part of me feels like I should pass the Bebe on to a new parent, but 
>>> another part of me wants to just keep it. The ride is phenomenal, and 
>>> really unlike anything else I've ever ridden and I doubt I'd ever get it 
>>> back if I let it go.
>>>
>>> The 68 degree seat tube angle is really comfortable, and the really long 
>>> effective top tube puts so much bike out in front of the rider that it 
>>> feels like it really takes the lead. It's absurdly stable on fast descents 
>>> and carves corners without any skittishness.
>>>
>>> If I was going to sell it, I'd probably replace it with a Clem as my kid 
>>> hauling townie, since I'd like to keep my Gus set up for rowdy single track 
>>> fun.
>>>
>>> So I'm curious if anyone can actually compare the two.
>>>
>>> Paul in AR
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Downtube shifting boss question

[Ray Varella]

It looks like a cover to allow running a cable stop at the shifter boss. 
If you pull it off, there should be a regular shifter boss under it. 
Those caps allow you to use bar end, thumb shifters or brifters. 

Ray
On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 9:24:24 PM UTC-8 maxcr wrote:

> Hi Everyone I'm working on a new project and bumped into this shifting 
> boss which I've never seen. They don't seem to accept a standard brass 
> ferrule.
>
> Any ideas on how to deal with these other than replacing them?
>
> Thanks
> Max
> [image: IMG_8920.jpeg]
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Front Derailer Adjustment

[Ray Varella]

I’ve always done my initial  derailer adjustments before I install the 
chain. 
Front and rear both get installed and before the cable is connected I 
adjust the limit screw so that the front’s cage is centered on the small 
ring and the rear pulleys are centered on the small cog. 
Then I install the cables  and take up the slack, cinch the cable, run 
through the range of motion a few times to set the housing in the 
 ferrules. 
Then check the slack. 
Next, install the chain and run through the gears being careful not to run 
the chain into the spokes. 

Like Joe said, it can take a bot of fine tuning to get things perfect so I 
take my screwdriver and Allen wrench on a test ride. 
Getting the gross adjustment really close will minimize the fine tuning. 

Ray “also self taught many decades ago“  Varella

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:03:25 PM UTC-8 J J wrote:

> Joe, you’re incredibly generous with your knowledge and experience. Thank 
> you!! I’ve learned so much from your contributions to this community, and I 
> very much appreciate the basics, too. The deeper I get into working on my 
> bikes myself, the more I understand that 1) the notion of bike “standards” 
> is hilarious and 2) what might be obvious to one person is not at all 
> obvious to another. Everyone starts somewhere. You’re a great teacher, and 
> you instruct with humor and kindness. 
>
> On Dec 3, 2022, at 20:22, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> I do what I can, Scott! Just don't ask me how to bleed hydraulic brakes 
> or set sag on a suspension fork. I barely know what those words even mean 
>
>
>
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:13:43 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:
>
>> Joe,
>>
>> I appreciate the error on overshare/overstate philosophy.  I'm happy to 
>> discard what I already know and treasure hunt for what I don't know.
>>
>> I'm more likely to get annoyed with a lack of explanation/clarification 
>> than too much.
>>
>> I'm here to learn, not show what I know.
>>
>> My knowledge toolbox has grown - plenty of which from you - in the short 
>> time I've been in the group.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>> 
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 5:00 PM, Doug Hansford
>>  wrote:
>>
>> It may be obvious to some but I appreciate the detail. 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2022, at 6:11 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> Apologies to anyone who thinks I'm explaining the obvious, I've learned 
>> over the years to start at "explain everything, assume nothing" and it's 
>> served me well. And as I said in my first post, I'm probably doing it all 
>> wrong! 
>>
>> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:52:07 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Trial and error bro! Basically you need the range of motion between L and 
>> H to cover the chainrings, and the cable pinched down so the shifter will 
>> move the cage through that range.
>>
>> If the shifter starts slipping you'll need to crank down on the bolt 
>> there. Silver thumbies have a little ring you turn, SunRace/Microshift use 
>> a hex bolt. 
>>
>> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:26:30 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>> Joe these are excellent instructions. My mistake is not leaving the cable 
>> loose when adjusting the low limit. Thanks!!
>> Doug
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2022, at 5:00 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> Of course I forget something. The cable gets tightened down (after the L 
>> setting is done) with the shifter in its most forward position, the cable 
>> is let out as much as it will go. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 1:57:41 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> The way I do it was self-taught decades ago and no doubt wrong but it 
>> works so here goes:
>>
>> Chain in small front/big rear like you said, L and H screws all the way 
>> out, then I adjust the L screw to get the cage just inboard enough to clear 
>> the chain. That's my low position for the derailer, I know I dont want it 
>> swinging any closer to the frame. Now I tighten the cable at the clamp and 
>> shift to the big front/small rear. Is the fd getting my chain over to the 
>> big ring? Good, now I'm screwing the H limit in just far enough to keep the 
>> chain from overshifting and tossing the chain between the ring and 
>> crankarm. 
>>
>> Once I've gotten this far I ride a bit to dial the L and H screws, often 
>> on the first try one or the other isn't quite right and I'm not getting 
>> enough travel to knock the chain to the next ring. 
>>
>> Easy! 
>>
>> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 11:41:41 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>> I want to tap into the collective knowledge here. I need to adjust my 
>> Shimano Deore front derailer on my Clem. It looks to be aligned properly. 
>> Is it proper to tighten the cable when the chain is on the small ring and 
>> largest rear cog? Should the H and L screws be all the 

Re: [RBW] Re: Front Derailer Adjustment

[Ray Varella]

I’ve always done my initial  derailer adjustments before I install the 
chain. 
Front and rear both get installed and before the cable is connected I 
adjust the limit screw so that the front’s cage is centered on the small 
ring and the rear pulleys are centered on the small cog. 
Then I install the cables  and take up the slack, cinch the cable, run 
through the range of motion a few times to set the housing in the 
 ferrules. 
Then check the slack. 
Next, install the chain and run through the gears being careful not to run 
the chain into the spokes. 

Like Joe said, it can take a bot of fine tuning to get things perfect so I 
take my screwdriver and Allen wrench on a test ride. 
Getting the gross adjustment really close will minimize the fine tuning. 

Ray “also self taught many decades ago“  Varella 

On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 6:03:25 PM UTC-8 J J wrote:

> Joe, you’re incredibly generous with your knowledge and experience. Thank 
> you!! I’ve learned so much from your contributions to this community, and I 
> very much appreciate the basics, too. The deeper I get into working on my 
> bikes myself, the more I understand that 1) the notion of bike “standards” 
> is hilarious and 2) what might be obvious to one person is not at all 
> obvious to another. Everyone starts somewhere. You’re a great teacher, and 
> you instruct with humor and kindness. 
>
> On Dec 3, 2022, at 20:22, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> I do what I can, Scott! Just don't ask me how to bleed hydraulic brakes 
> or set sag on a suspension fork. I barely know what those words even mean 
>
>
>
> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 5:13:43 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:
>
>> Joe,
>>
>> I appreciate the error on overshare/overstate philosophy.  I'm happy to 
>> discard what I already know and treasure hunt for what I don't know.
>>
>> I'm more likely to get annoyed with a lack of explanation/clarification 
>> than too much.
>>
>> I'm here to learn, not show what I know.
>>
>> My knowledge toolbox has grown - plenty of which from you - in the short 
>> time I've been in the group.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>> 
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 5:00 PM, Doug Hansford
>>  wrote:
>>
>> It may be obvious to some but I appreciate the detail. 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2022, at 6:11 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> Apologies to anyone who thinks I'm explaining the obvious, I've learned 
>> over the years to start at "explain everything, assume nothing" and it's 
>> served me well. And as I said in my first post, I'm probably doing it all 
>> wrong! 
>>
>> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:52:07 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Trial and error bro! Basically you need the range of motion between L and 
>> H to cover the chainrings, and the cable pinched down so the shifter will 
>> move the cage through that range.
>>
>> If the shifter starts slipping you'll need to crank down on the bolt 
>> there. Silver thumbies have a little ring you turn, SunRace/Microshift use 
>> a hex bolt. 
>>
>> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 2:26:30 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>> Joe these are excellent instructions. My mistake is not leaving the cable 
>> loose when adjusting the low limit. Thanks!!
>> Doug
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2022, at 5:00 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> Of course I forget something. The cable gets tightened down (after the L 
>> setting is done) with the shifter in its most forward position, the cable 
>> is let out as much as it will go. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 1:57:41 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> The way I do it was self-taught decades ago and no doubt wrong but it 
>> works so here goes:
>>
>> Chain in small front/big rear like you said, L and H screws all the way 
>> out, then I adjust the L screw to get the cage just inboard enough to clear 
>> the chain. That's my low position for the derailer, I know I dont want it 
>> swinging any closer to the frame. Now I tighten the cable at the clamp and 
>> shift to the big front/small rear. Is the fd getting my chain over to the 
>> big ring? Good, now I'm screwing the H limit in just far enough to keep the 
>> chain from overshifting and tossing the chain between the ring and 
>> crankarm. 
>>
>> Once I've gotten this far I ride a bit to dial the L and H screws, often 
>> on the first try one or the other isn't quite right and I'm not getting 
>> enough travel to knock the chain to the next ring. 
>>
>> Easy! 
>>
>> On Saturday, December 3, 2022 at 11:41:41 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>> I want to tap into the collective knowledge here. I need to adjust my 
>> Shimano Deore front derailer on my Clem. It looks to be aligned properly. 
>> Is it proper to tighten the cable when the chain is on the small ring and 
>> largest rear cog? Should the H and L screws be all 

[RBW] Re: For sale Suntour XC Pro seatpost

[Ray Varella]

Post is sold

Thank you 

On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 7:31:42 PM UTC-8 Ray Varella wrote:

> This post is 26.6 and in nice condition 
> Suntour XC Pro
> It measures 275mm to the top of the shaft. 
>
> Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com for questions or pics. 
> $55 includes shipping to the lower 48
>
> Thank you 
> Ray
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[RBW] For sale Suntour XC Pro seatpost

[Ray Varella]

This post is 26.6 and in nice condition 
Suntour XC Pro
It measures 275mm to the top of the shaft. 

Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com for questions or pics. 
$55 includes shipping to the lower 48

Thank you 
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[RBW] Re: For Sale Stronglight headsets

[Ray Varella]

These are sold

Thank you 

On Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 10:16:09 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:

> Sorry, English thread, 1” 26.4 crown race
>
> On Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 10:08:58 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> I have two Stronglight headsets, new, never installed. 
>> They look exactly like the needle bearing model (A9?) but these use 
>> cartridge bearings. 
>> $40 each plus shipping. 
>> Buy them both and I’ll pay shipping 
>> Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 
>>
>> Thank you 
>> Ray
>>
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[RBW] Re: For Sale Stronglight headsets

[Ray Varella]

Sorry, English thread, 1” 26.4 crown race

On Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 10:08:58 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:

> I have two Stronglight headsets, new, never installed. 
> They look exactly like the needle bearing model (A9?) but these use 
> cartridge bearings. 
> $40 each plus shipping. 
> Buy them both and I’ll pay shipping 
> Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 
>
> Thank you 
> Ray
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[RBW] For Sale Stronglight headsets

[Ray Varella]

I have two Stronglight headsets, new, never installed. 
They look exactly like the needle bearing model (A9?) but these use 
cartridge bearings. 
$40 each plus shipping. 
Buy them both and I’ll pay shipping 
Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 

Thank you 
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Re: [RBW] Re: For sale Simplex Retrofriction shifters + Suntour hub

[Ray Varella]

Suntour XC9000 front hub is still available 
Included is a Suntour grease guard rear 36 hole freewheel hub never built, 
axle has been shortened to 130mm

Thank you 
Ray

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 7:54:06 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:

>
> Yes but the price has increased significantly. 
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 7:47:00 AM UTC-7 reynoldslugs wrote:
>
>> Is the Apple stock still available?
>>
>> PM sent
>>
>> Max in Santa Rosa
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 7:42:28 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hub is sold. 
>>> Thank you 
>>> Ray 
>>> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 6:47:39 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pm sent. 
>>>> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 6:00:52 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Skewers or not, I’ll go ahead and take them. I might convert that rear 
>>>>> to an even narrower OLD. And I my convert both hubs to bolt on :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Please do me a favor and DM me. I’m using my phone and it’s just 
>>>>> allowing me to reply to the whole rbw group. 
>>>>>
>>>>> BL in EC 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 2:10 PM William Lindsay  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are the Suntour QR skewers involved in this offer?  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill Lindsay 
>>>>>> El Cerrito Ca 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 9:10 PM Ray Varella  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shifters are sold, hub is still available. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Before anyone squanders their discretionary income on bike parts…$25 
>>>>>>> invested in Apple in 2000 would be worth roughly $8,000
>>>>>>> I don’t know where or when I acquired this hub, if anyone buys it 
>>>>>>> I’ll include a rear XC-Pro grease guard hub in never built condition 
>>>>>>> BUT, 
>>>>>>> the hub had its axle chopped with a hacksaw, it’s about 130mm. It’s a 
>>>>>>> freewheel hub
>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 11:09:49 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not criticizing the $50 price for the Suntour XC9000 hub, but I 
>>>>>>>> remember buying one from Riv in the early 2000's for...$20-25 USD 
>>>>>>>> which was 
>>>>>>>> a flat-out bargain. $50 is still more than reasonable for this 
>>>>>>>> classic. It 
>>>>>>>> is a beautiful smooth-running  hub; so nice I had a local wheel 
>>>>>>>> builder 
>>>>>>>> friend lace it to grey-anodized RM-17 rims with an older 105 rear 
>>>>>>>> bought 
>>>>>>>> from Sheldon Brown at Harris Cyclery for my 1993 X0-1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 12:54:27 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Up for sale is a lightly used pair of Simplex Retrofriction 
>>>>>>>>> shifters. Clean and very nice 
>>>>>>>>> $55 + shipping. 
>>>>>>>>> Suntour XC 9000 front hub. 
>>>>>>>>> 32 hole, NOS, never laced. 
>>>>>>>>> Very nice sealed bearing hub $50 + shipping. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Local pickup in Vallejo CA is also an option. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you 
>>>>>>>>> Ray
>>>>>>>>>
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[RBW] Re: For sale cheap, fenders plus a Riv cap

[Ray Varella]

Fenders are still available 

Thank you 
Ray 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 9:32:39 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:

> Hat is sold
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 8:30:58 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> [image: D6D317CA-068E-4000-ADEE-BDF63BE70A51.jpeg]
>>
>> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 8:28:48 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 088E3D1A-4D6F-4F48-96AB-2FEF790D59C6.jpeg]Sorry for multiple 
>>> postings but I’m going through a lot of items besides bike stuff. 
>>>
>>> I have two sets of Planet Bike clip-on fenders, one is 50mm wide, the 
>>> other is 70mm wide
>>> Plus a set of never mounted SKS Cromo plast fenders. These are 50mm 
>>> wide. 
>>> The rear has a twist in it from sitting on a shelf for years. I know a 
>>> heat gun can be used to warm up the plastic and straighten it because I’ve 
>>> done it before. Please be advised. 
>>> There is a second set of these fenders that have been decommissioned, 
>>> the rear had a section break of but all the hardware and stays are fine. 
>>>
>>> $25 for the fender group if you pick it up in Vallejo. 
>>> Due to the size of box required for shipping, I doubt it’s worth the 
>>> expense but you can decide. 
>>> Rivendell cap, orange. This has not been used. I may have tried it on 
>>> years ago. 
>>> It’s a little dusty from sitting on a shelf. $35 shipped
>>> Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Ray 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: For Sale Shiny Rack

[Ray Varella]

Rack is sold

Thank you and thank you Jared


Ray
On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 11:49:21 AM UTC-7 Jared Wilson wrote:

> $160/shipped is a great deal for this rack, we have (2) in use and love 
> them.
>
> Best of luck with the sale, Ray!
>
> Jared
>
> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 10:48:39 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Giving this a bump. 
>> These are currently $178 from Rivendell and as mentioned in a recent 
>> email, will increase in price with the next shipment 
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 7:16:50 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Doug,
>>> I’ve used P clamps in the past to mount lights on racks that didn’t have 
>>> a mounting tab. 
>>> The P goes around the tubing and the studs or screw go through the hole 
>>> and the nut secures it in place. 
>>> Hardware stores with those drawers full of miscellaneous specialty items 
>>> is where I’ve always found P clamps. 
>>>
>>> Thank you 
>>> Ray 
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 5:07:56 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ray,
>>>> This is a good deal and I would buy it if I could figure out a way I 
>>>> could mount my rear Topline B dynamo taillight. Any ideas?
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 2:48:38 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Offered is a Rivendell Shiny Rack 
>>>>> As new, never used. All mounting hardware in original condition. 
>>>>> $150 for local pickup 
>>>>> $160 shipped
>>>>>
>>>>> Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you 
>>>>> Ray
>>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: For sale, Suntour Superbe brakes

[Ray Varella]

Thanks Joe,
I really agonized over parting with them but I have a set on my road bike 
and these have sat unused for about 20 years. 

Ray
On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 4:03:56 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> That's good to hear, Ray. Somebody got some sweet Suntour swag. 
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 3:59:17 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> The brakes are sold. 
>>
>> Thank you 
>> Ray
>>
>> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 9:08:36 AM UTC-7 Patch T wrote:
>>
>>> FWIW, these clear Rene Herse Naches Pass 26 x 1.8 (41mm actual) on my 
>>> 1992 Bstone XO-1.
>>> They're beautiful. Braking is good. No issues with centering.
>>>
>>> Patch in NYC
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:58:52 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> They're light and beautiful vintage Suntour brakes for people who know 
>>>> what that is and want them. It's 2022 and there aren't a ton of these in 
>>>> this condition around anymore. 
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 7:48:03 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And yes, I know the adjuster nut is not in the right place, it’s there 
>>>>> to keep all the parts together. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 7:46:36 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: 03D4B414-DF10-4CAE-B9CE-9D6168A94ABA.jpeg]Here’s a pic of 
>>>>>> the brakes. 
>>>>>> I have a set of these on a bike and they clear the Rene Herse 38s 
>>>>>> with the pads at the bottom of the slots. 
>>>>>> Not all frames will have the same clearances. 
>>>>>> In over 30 years of using this model of brake I have never had any 
>>>>>> issues with them staying centered. 
>>>>>> They do require more hand strength than modern dual pivots but that 
>>>>>> hasn’t been a problem for me yet. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you 
>>>>>> Ray
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 3:46:34 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dissing on someone's for sale posting is just not cooland it 
>>>>>>> wasn't even for the right brake. doubly shmubly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 4:10:13 PM UTC-4 pi wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If these are the superbe pro sidepull calipers they are junk. I had 
>>>>>>>> a pair and they could never stay centered.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: For sale, Suntour Superbe brakes

[Ray Varella]

The brakes are sold. 

Thank you 
Ray

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 9:08:36 AM UTC-7 Patch T wrote:

> FWIW, these clear Rene Herse Naches Pass 26 x 1.8 (41mm actual) on my 1992 
> Bstone XO-1.
> They're beautiful. Braking is good. No issues with centering.
>
> Patch in NYC
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:58:52 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> They're light and beautiful vintage Suntour brakes for people who know 
>> what that is and want them. It's 2022 and there aren't a ton of these in 
>> this condition around anymore. 
>>
>> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 7:48:03 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>>> And yes, I know the adjuster nut is not in the right place, it’s there 
>>> to keep all the parts together. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 7:46:36 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>
>>>> [image: 03D4B414-DF10-4CAE-B9CE-9D6168A94ABA.jpeg]Here’s a pic of the 
>>>> brakes. 
>>>> I have a set of these on a bike and they clear the Rene Herse 38s with 
>>>> the pads at the bottom of the slots. 
>>>> Not all frames will have the same clearances. 
>>>> In over 30 years of using this model of brake I have never had any 
>>>> issues with them staying centered. 
>>>> They do require more hand strength than modern dual pivots but that 
>>>> hasn’t been a problem for me yet. 
>>>>
>>>> Thank you 
>>>> Ray
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 3:46:34 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dissing on someone's for sale posting is just not cooland it 
>>>>> wasn't even for the right brake. doubly shmubly
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 4:10:13 PM UTC-4 pi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If these are the superbe pro sidepull calipers they are junk. I had a 
>>>>>> pair and they could never stay centered.
>>>>>
>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: For sale cheap, fenders plus a Riv cap

[Ray Varella]

Hat is sold

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 8:30:58 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:

> [image: D6D317CA-068E-4000-ADEE-BDF63BE70A51.jpeg]
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 8:28:48 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> [image: 088E3D1A-4D6F-4F48-96AB-2FEF790D59C6.jpeg]Sorry for multiple 
>> postings but I’m going through a lot of items besides bike stuff. 
>>
>> I have two sets of Planet Bike clip-on fenders, one is 50mm wide, the 
>> other is 70mm wide
>> Plus a set of never mounted SKS Cromo plast fenders. These are 50mm wide. 
>> The rear has a twist in it from sitting on a shelf for years. I know a 
>> heat gun can be used to warm up the plastic and straighten it because I’ve 
>> done it before. Please be advised. 
>> There is a second set of these fenders that have been decommissioned, the 
>> rear had a section break of but all the hardware and stays are fine. 
>>
>> $25 for the fender group if you pick it up in Vallejo. 
>> Due to the size of box required for shipping, I doubt it’s worth the 
>> expense but you can decide. 
>> Rivendell cap, orange. This has not been used. I may have tried it on 
>> years ago. 
>> It’s a little dusty from sitting on a shelf. $35 shipped
>> Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 
>> Thank you,
>> Ray 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: For sale Simplex Retrofriction shifters + Suntour hub

[Ray Varella]

Yes but the price has increased significantly. 
On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 7:47:00 AM UTC-7 reynoldslugs wrote:

> Is the Apple stock still available?
>
> PM sent
>
> Max in Santa Rosa
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 7:42:28 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>>
>> Hub is sold. 
>> Thank you 
>> Ray 
>> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 6:47:39 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Pm sent. 
>>> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 6:00:52 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>>> Skewers or not, I’ll go ahead and take them. I might convert that rear 
>>>> to an even narrower OLD. And I my convert both hubs to bolt on :)
>>>>
>>>> Please do me a favor and DM me. I’m using my phone and it’s just 
>>>> allowing me to reply to the whole rbw group. 
>>>>
>>>> BL in EC 
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 2:10 PM William Lindsay  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are the Suntour QR skewers involved in this offer?  
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Lindsay 
>>>>> El Cerrito Ca 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 9:10 PM Ray Varella  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Shifters are sold, hub is still available. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Before anyone squanders their discretionary income on bike parts…$25 
>>>>>> invested in Apple in 2000 would be worth roughly $8,000
>>>>>> I don’t know where or when I acquired this hub, if anyone buys it 
>>>>>> I’ll include a rear XC-Pro grease guard hub in never built condition 
>>>>>> BUT, 
>>>>>> the hub had its axle chopped with a hacksaw, it’s about 130mm. It’s a 
>>>>>> freewheel hub
>>>>>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 11:09:49 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not criticizing the $50 price for the Suntour XC9000 hub, but I 
>>>>>>> remember buying one from Riv in the early 2000's for...$20-25 USD which 
>>>>>>> was 
>>>>>>> a flat-out bargain. $50 is still more than reasonable for this classic. 
>>>>>>> It 
>>>>>>> is a beautiful smooth-running  hub; so nice I had a local wheel builder 
>>>>>>> friend lace it to grey-anodized RM-17 rims with an older 105 rear 
>>>>>>> bought 
>>>>>>> from Sheldon Brown at Harris Cyclery for my 1993 X0-1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 12:54:27 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Up for sale is a lightly used pair of Simplex Retrofriction 
>>>>>>>> shifters. Clean and very nice 
>>>>>>>> $55 + shipping. 
>>>>>>>> Suntour XC 9000 front hub. 
>>>>>>>> 32 hole, NOS, never laced. 
>>>>>>>> Very nice sealed bearing hub $50 + shipping. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Local pickup in Vallejo CA is also an option. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you 
>>>>>>>> Ray
>>>>>>>>
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[RBW] Re: For sale, Suntour Superbe brakes

[Ray Varella]

And yes, I know the adjuster nut is not in the right place, it’s there to 
keep all the parts together. 

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 7:46:36 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:

> [image: 03D4B414-DF10-4CAE-B9CE-9D6168A94ABA.jpeg]Here’s a pic of the 
> brakes. 
> I have a set of these on a bike and they clear the Rene Herse 38s with the 
> pads at the bottom of the slots. 
> Not all frames will have the same clearances. 
> In over 30 years of using this model of brake I have never had any issues 
> with them staying centered. 
> They do require more hand strength than modern dual pivots but that hasn’t 
> been a problem for me yet. 
>
> Thank you 
> Ray
>
> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 3:46:34 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>
>> Dissing on someone's for sale posting is just not cooland it wasn't 
>> even for the right brake. doubly shmubly
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 4:10:13 PM UTC-4 pi wrote:
>>
>>> If these are the superbe pro sidepull calipers they are junk. I had a 
>>> pair and they could never stay centered.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: For sale Simplex Retrofriction shifters + Suntour hub

[Ray Varella]

Hub is sold. 
Thank you 
Ray 
On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 6:47:39 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:

>
> Pm sent. 
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 6:00:52 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Skewers or not, I’ll go ahead and take them. I might convert that rear to 
>> an even narrower OLD. And I my convert both hubs to bolt on :)
>>
>> Please do me a favor and DM me. I’m using my phone and it’s just allowing 
>> me to reply to the whole rbw group. 
>>
>> BL in EC 
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 2:10 PM William Lindsay  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Are the Suntour QR skewers involved in this offer?  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay 
>>> El Cerrito Ca 
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 9:10 PM Ray Varella  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Shifters are sold, hub is still available. 
>>>>
>>>> Before anyone squanders their discretionary income on bike parts…$25 
>>>> invested in Apple in 2000 would be worth roughly $8,000
>>>> I don’t know where or when I acquired this hub, if anyone buys it I’ll 
>>>> include a rear XC-Pro grease guard hub in never built condition BUT, the 
>>>> hub had its axle chopped with a hacksaw, it’s about 130mm. It’s a 
>>>> freewheel 
>>>> hub
>>>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 11:09:49 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not criticizing the $50 price for the Suntour XC9000 hub, but I 
>>>>> remember buying one from Riv in the early 2000's for...$20-25 USD which 
>>>>> was 
>>>>> a flat-out bargain. $50 is still more than reasonable for this classic. 
>>>>> It 
>>>>> is a beautiful smooth-running  hub; so nice I had a local wheel builder 
>>>>> friend lace it to grey-anodized RM-17 rims with an older 105 rear bought 
>>>>> from Sheldon Brown at Harris Cyclery for my 1993 X0-1
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 12:54:27 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Up for sale is a lightly used pair of Simplex Retrofriction shifters. 
>>>>>> Clean and very nice 
>>>>>> $55 + shipping. 
>>>>>> Suntour XC 9000 front hub. 
>>>>>> 32 hole, NOS, never laced. 
>>>>>> Very nice sealed bearing hub $50 + shipping. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Local pickup in Vallejo CA is also an option. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you 
>>>>>> Ray
>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: For sale Simplex Retrofriction shifters + Suntour hub

[Ray Varella]

Pm sent. 
On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 6:00:52 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Skewers or not, I’ll go ahead and take them. I might convert that rear to 
> an even narrower OLD. And I my convert both hubs to bolt on :)
>
> Please do me a favor and DM me. I’m using my phone and it’s just allowing 
> me to reply to the whole rbw group. 
>
> BL in EC 
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 2:10 PM William Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> Are the Suntour QR skewers involved in this offer?  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay 
>> El Cerrito Ca 
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 9:10 PM Ray Varella  wrote:
>>
>>> Shifters are sold, hub is still available. 
>>>
>>> Before anyone squanders their discretionary income on bike parts…$25 
>>> invested in Apple in 2000 would be worth roughly $8,000
>>> I don’t know where or when I acquired this hub, if anyone buys it I’ll 
>>> include a rear XC-Pro grease guard hub in never built condition BUT, the 
>>> hub had its axle chopped with a hacksaw, it’s about 130mm. It’s a freewheel 
>>> hub
>>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 11:09:49 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm not criticizing the $50 price for the Suntour XC9000 hub, but I 
>>>> remember buying one from Riv in the early 2000's for...$20-25 USD which 
>>>> was 
>>>> a flat-out bargain. $50 is still more than reasonable for this classic. It 
>>>> is a beautiful smooth-running  hub; so nice I had a local wheel builder 
>>>> friend lace it to grey-anodized RM-17 rims with an older 105 rear bought 
>>>> from Sheldon Brown at Harris Cyclery for my 1993 X0-1
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 12:54:27 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Up for sale is a lightly used pair of Simplex Retrofriction shifters. 
>>>>> Clean and very nice 
>>>>> $55 + shipping. 
>>>>> Suntour XC 9000 front hub. 
>>>>> 32 hole, NOS, never laced. 
>>>>> Very nice sealed bearing hub $50 + shipping. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 
>>>>>
>>>>> Local pickup in Vallejo CA is also an option. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you 
>>>>> Ray
>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Tire shipping advice

[Ray Varella]

To fold a wire bead tire without damaging the bead is what we used to do 
before folding tires were ubiquitous. 
With the tire horizontal in front of you, reach under the the part closest 
to you (we’ll call that 6:00 o’clock), slide your hand all the way across 
(let’s call that 12:00 o’clock), reach up over the top and as you pull that 
portion of the tire towards you and you get about 2/3rds of the way across, 
flip the other two ears over and you should quickly end up with three 
loops. 
Does that make sense?
I don’t think I have any wire bead tires here to make a video but I’ll 
check. 

It’s a very easy method and because it’s forming something like a figure 8 
with an additional loop, it doesn’t crease or kink the bead. 

Ray
On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:20:37 PM UTC-7 ezre...@gmail.com wrote:

> Eric, when you say folded, is that over in half once? I shipped something 
> out yesterday, and the post office rounded up one dimension from 12.1 
> inches to 13, and that made the price jump from $24 to 41, so every inch is 
> counting these days!
>
> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:54:24 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> I e shooed folded beaded tires many times. It doesn’t hurt them. 
>>
>> –Eric N
>>
>>
>> On Oct 15, 2022, at 3:50 PM, Garth  wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, basically use a box cutter to literally make a custom box no 
>> bigger than the tires. You can use some hot glue for integrity if you're 
>> worried, but good tape should suffice. 
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 5:35:07 PM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You can get creative with how you cut cardboard boxes into different 
>>> shapes. If you find one big enough to lay the tires down in, you can use a 
>>> razor/box opener to cut down the corners of the box and then trim the flaps 
>>> to the size you need. It's really hard to explain and it's something I 
>>> messed up a few times before I could do it well (I work in a golf shop that 
>>> ships oddly shaped things now and then), but it's do-able. 
>>>
>>> Otherwise, you could try to find unwanted TV boxes or cardboard boxes 
>>> that people ship art in? 
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> Ben 
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 4:20 PM Ezri Rose  wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone have experience shipping wire bead tyres? I have some 26" 
 studded Schwalbe Marathon winter tyres I would like to sell. But I have no 
 idea how to ship them. It's probably not good for them to fold them, 
 right? 
 Selling them locally isn't an option, as I've moved from Colorado to 
 Florida 
 Ezri,
 Merritt Island, FL

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[RBW] For sale, Suntour Superbe brakes

[Ray Varella]

Up for sale is a very clean pair of Suntour Superbe brake calipers. 
Front and rear, nutted 47-57mm reach with Mathhauser pads. 
$85 plus shipping. 
Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 

Thank you 
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[RBW] Re: For sale Simplex Retrofriction shifters + Suntour hub

[Ray Varella]

Shifters are sold, hub is still available. 

Before anyone squanders their discretionary income on bike parts…$25 
invested in Apple in 2000 would be worth roughly $8,000
I don’t know where or when I acquired this hub, if anyone buys it I’ll 
include a rear XC-Pro grease guard hub in never built condition BUT, the 
hub had its axle chopped with a hacksaw, it’s about 130mm. It’s a freewheel 
hub
On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 11:09:49 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> I'm not criticizing the $50 price for the Suntour XC9000 hub, but I 
> remember buying one from Riv in the early 2000's for...$20-25 USD which was 
> a flat-out bargain. $50 is still more than reasonable for this classic. It 
> is a beautiful smooth-running  hub; so nice I had a local wheel builder 
> friend lace it to grey-anodized RM-17 rims with an older 105 rear bought 
> from Sheldon Brown at Harris Cyclery for my 1993 X0-1
>
> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 12:54:27 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Up for sale is a lightly used pair of Simplex Retrofriction shifters. 
>> Clean and very nice 
>> $55 + shipping. 
>> Suntour XC 9000 front hub. 
>> 32 hole, NOS, never laced. 
>> Very nice sealed bearing hub $50 + shipping. 
>>
>> Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 
>>
>> Local pickup in Vallejo CA is also an option. 
>>
>> Thank you 
>> Ray
>>
>

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[RBW] For sale Simplex Retrofriction shifters + Suntour hub

[Ray Varella]

Up for sale is a lightly used pair of Simplex Retrofriction shifters. Clean 
and very nice 
$55 + shipping. 
Suntour XC 9000 front hub. 
32 hole, NOS, never laced. 
Very nice sealed bearing hub $50 + shipping. 

Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 

Local pickup in Vallejo CA is also an option. 

Thank you 
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[RBW] Re: For Sale Shiny Rack

[Ray Varella]

Giving this a bump. 
These are currently $178 from Rivendell and as mentioned in a recent email, 
will increase in price with the next shipment 

Ray

On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 7:16:50 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:

> Hey Doug,
> I’ve used P clamps in the past to mount lights on racks that didn’t have a 
> mounting tab. 
> The P goes around the tubing and the studs or screw go through the hole 
> and the nut secures it in place. 
> Hardware stores with those drawers full of miscellaneous specialty items 
> is where I’ve always found P clamps. 
>
> Thank you 
> Ray 
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 5:07:56 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Ray,
>> This is a good deal and I would buy it if I could figure out a way I 
>> could mount my rear Topline B dynamo taillight. Any ideas?
>> Doug
>>
>> On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 2:48:38 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>>> Offered is a Rivendell Shiny Rack 
>>> As new, never used. All mounting hardware in original condition. 
>>> $150 for local pickup 
>>> $160 shipped
>>>
>>> Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 
>>>
>>> Thank you 
>>> Ray
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: For Sale Shiny Rack

[Ray Varella]

Hey Doug,
I’ve used P clamps in the past to mount lights on racks that didn’t have a 
mounting tab. 
The P goes around the tubing and the studs or screw go through the hole and 
the nut secures it in place. 
Hardware stores with those drawers full of miscellaneous specialty items is 
where I’ve always found P clamps. 

Thank you 
Ray 

On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 5:07:56 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:

> Ray,
> This is a good deal and I would buy it if I could figure out a way I could 
> mount my rear Topline B dynamo taillight. Any ideas?
> Doug
>
> On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 2:48:38 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Offered is a Rivendell Shiny Rack 
>> As new, never used. All mounting hardware in original condition. 
>> $150 for local pickup 
>> $160 shipped
>>
>> Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 
>>
>> Thank you 
>> Ray
>>
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[RBW] For Sale Shiny Rack

[Ray Varella]

Offered is a Rivendell Shiny Rack 
As new, never used. All mounting hardware in original condition. 
$150 for local pickup 
$160 shipped

Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 

Thank you 
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Re: [RBW] Wild Clem Photos

[Ray Varella]

I need an orange bike. 

Ray

On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 6:29:03 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Ok I didn't even know orange and pink was a thing but now I need an orange 
> bike with pink grips and pedals. It's so rad!  李 
>
> On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 2:53:07 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>
>> [image: clementine.jpg]
>>
>> I recently acquired this 59 Clementine+boscomoose on a trade. I pulled 
>> parts off my 64 Clem Jr to take take it for a spin. I was keen to check out 
>> the differences in ride. The color coordination is a bit hodge-podged - but 
>> I kind of like it. 
>>
>> On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 1:39:43 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> That Clem H looks great with the Crazy Bars and yes, purple tape would 
>>> be awesome on those.
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 8:07:56 AM UTC-4 ezre...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Sorry the pic is at a jaunty angle. It does show off her wild 
 attributes though. I feel like she needs some of that purple bar tape!

 On Sunday, July 24, 2022 at 5:21:50 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Lovely.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 24, 2022, at 3:09 PM, Matt Maceda  wrote:
>
> Clem in the morning light after a night on the mountain;
>
>
>
> On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 7:43:01 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Loaded & unloaded..,
>> [image: image1.jpeg]
>>
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 23, 2022, at 11:08 AM, Doug H.  wrote:
>>
>> I was chatting with Leah (Bicycle Belle Ding Ding) earlier and she 
>> suggested starting a Wild Clem thread so folks can show off their Clems. 
>> She said my Clem is the "wildest" but I doubt that! Here is mine with 
>> some 
>> color and stickers. Wild Clem Photos 
>> 
>>
>>
>> Share your Clem photos! 
>>
>> Doug
>> Athens, Ga
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Re: [RBW] High bars at a club ride

[Ray Varella]

Here’s my one and only experience encountering a group of local club 
riders. 
Years ago (20) I was out on a Saturday morning ride on my Rivendell 
Allrounder, upright bars. 
I pulled up behind a group of road bike riders at a stoplight. 
I said “ I thought I was the only one in this city that rode a bike who 
hadn’t lost his license because of a DUI. 
One of the guys said “anyone riding a Rivendell is welcome with us anytime. 

Ride what you like, any day on any bike is time well spent. 

Ray “several rides on the Toei this week, plus a super smooth Clem ride”

On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 6:00:27 PM UTC-7 amill...@gmail.com wrote:

> I like club rides. Hanging with the A group is fun. Even getting dropped 
> by the A group is fun. As long as you come back next week.
>
> My first Wednesday night ride I saw a guy on a white powder coated, fixed 
> gear Jeunet. I thought that was the coolest. 
>
> The next week I left my cannondale at home and rode my fixed RB-2. I got 
> dropped. I rode it again the next week. I got dropped again. I rode it the 
> next week and hung with them. It was awesome. Having a community is 
> important. 
>
> I think everyone should ride whatever they want. Riding should be fun and 
> competition should be fun. Nothing wrong with it. 
>
> As a side story, my petty officer used to call us Annie Oakley if we sat 
> sideways at our watch console in the Navy. I’m wondering if Leah has some 
> magical 90° crank that allows her to sit sideways (and if she’s a crack 
> shot.)
>
> Comfort can be described in different ways. On my fillet brazed plus bike 
> with Bosco bars and a brooks, I feel quite comfortable cruising with my kid 
> in the Mac-ride. I do not feel comfortable trying to go fast.
>
> On my roadie Protovelo with drop bars, I feel quite comfortable going 
> fast. I do not feel as comfortable with the kid on it.
>
> I want both of these bikes. I’m happy I have both of them. I don’t want 
> cruiser bars on the proto or drop bars on the cruiser. 
>
> I’m glad this list can support both. I’m glad Riv can support both. 
> Rivendell is a part of the bicycle industry, and just like the industry 
> they have to make new things and sell new ideas to stay afloat. In the 90s 
> that was 28s and lugs and brooks. Now it’s long chainstays and Bosco bars. 
> I’m glad they’ve done both. 
>
> Best,
>
> Aaron in El Paso 
>
>
> On Jul 28, 2022, at 18:42, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Oh, George, I hope your question to me was sincere and not “crotchety” 
> because I would love to answer you.
>
> “What’s the point?”
>
> Inclusion. Encouragement: If I can do it, you can too. I cannot be the 
> only one who rides a Rivendell and wants to be part of a local bike 
> community but feels unwelcome. I hope someone on this list decides to try 
> out their local club after reading about the Racing Platypus. That is the 
> whole point of my club ride thread. Sprinkled with some amusement. And, I 
> think it’s healthy for the local club to have a Rivendell in it. I’m happy 
> to spread Grant’s influence; it’s a healthy way to ride a bike. 
>
> I moved across the country and I wanted bike friends. I didn’t know how I 
> would be received at a club ride, was uncertain I could succeed in one. 
> What if I was unskilled? Too slow? Not accepted? My Platypus is supremely 
> comfortable, gorgeous, and just right for me. If I can’t ride my Platypus 
> in a club ride, I don’t want to be in the club. As it turns out, you *can* 
> ride your Rivendell in a club (Marc has done it for years) and you are not 
> automatically slow and unwelcome just because you do. All but the fastest 
> riders are good to me (the 18+ mph guys ignore me).  I ride with nice 
> people on carbon bikes and we really enjoy each other. And now several of 
> them have expressed interest in getting their own Rivendells. 
>
> “But does that make your upright bars and long wheelbase superior to 
> theirs?” 
>
> Maybe. Depends on what you value. If I can do the same job on a bike that 
> allows me to wear whatever clothes I want, look at the scenery and keep 
> pace with the rest, that’s superior by my definition, and that’s why I’m 
> riding a Platypus and not a Trek.
>
> I’m sure the roadie would think their bike superior to mine. That’s ok 
> with me. And tomorrow I’ll be riding with them and we’ll have a great time. 
> But I’ll be more comfortable and riding a prettier bike.
>
> Leah
>
>
>
> On Jul 28, 2022, at 7:08 PM, George Schick  wrote:
>
> "But to your point, who here has ridden both types of bikes and can 
> honestly say which is faster? Maybe it *is* the drop-bar, short wheel based 
> bike, but I’ve never ridden one, so I can’t say..."  Well I, for one, have 
> and continue to ride both types of bikes and have no reason to negative 
> either one; they both have their legitimate purposes.  But if you want to 
> say that one is either just as good or superior to the other then I have to 
> stop and shake my head a bit.  Again, as 

[RBW] Re: WTT My 59cm 2019 Atlantis (frame or complete) for....something bigger!

[Ray Varella]

Andrew,
Rivendell has the 62cm Atlantis in stock in case you can’t find a trading 
partner. 

Ray
On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 8:46:32 PM UTC-7 Andrew S wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I think this counts as my first official post, but I've responded to a few 
> incidental things and purchased (thanks Paul!) and sold (thanks Mackenzy!) 
> a Clem L, and the aforementioned Atlantis (thanks Bryan!) from list 
> members. 
>
> I'm feeling a little chagrined because I've finally come to the conclusion 
> that I'd been suspecting for a while, namely that I really wish I'd held 
> out for a 62 Atlantis in the new geometry. But I also dearly love my big 
> SimpleOne (which is admittedly confusingit seems that they topped out 
> at 62cm according to literature, but it was sold to me as a 64 and true to 
> form measures 64cm CTT), and would be easily swayed by a sufficiently large 
> earlier model (to be honest I'm as yet kind of on the fence about the 'new' 
> geometry).  
>
> So.hoping that someone may perhaps be moving the other way, and 
> wondering if a trade could be engineered whereby you'd receive my 59cm 
> Atlantis frameset (2019, excellent shape, no issues that I'm aware of), for 
> youroh, say, 62cm new Atlantis, 64cm older Atlantis, 62cm Hunqapillar 
> (the dream!) or, really, potentially any 60-something frame depending on 
> the details. Bonus points for double top tubes or even more for diagatube). 
> Also happy to discuss a swap of full or partial builds. 
>
> Failing that, I'd be open to the possibility of a sale, complete or any 
> portion thereof. It's a slightly nicer than Riv-typical build, happy to 
> provide details as desired. Fun mix of Paul and NItto bits with a couple of 
> highlights (Ritchey Logic cranks with Stridsland bolts, etc). I'm in 
> Calgary Alberta, so shipping is going to be even more of a pain than usual, 
> but depending on the details I'd be willing to compensate accordingly or 
> even perhaps use it as justification for a trip to Whitefish to ship and 
> receive.
>
> Thanks for letting me bend your ear/eye!
>
> andrew
>

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Re: [RBW] Southwest Michigan Rivendell Ride ✅

[Ray Varella]

P.S. That orange metallic gets my (thoroughly subjective) vote for the best 
color of the day. 

On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 7:18:21 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:

> That looks like a lot of fun. 
> Leah, you could an ambassador for Riv who travels around and organizes 
> these sorts of rides. 
> I doubt that sort of position exists…but still. 
>
> Ray “not far north of Riv World Headquarters”
>
> On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 6:19:56 PM UTC-7 Chris L wrote:
>
>> Since Marc's Hunqapillar is now black, my gray/orange 54cm is even more 
>> rare!  His was the only other one I know about, although one of the 54 
>> prototypes has the orange accents, so it may be out there somewhere.  
>>
>> To be honest, I've long thought of changing mine to black.  I'm not big 
>> on conspicuous appearances and prefer a bike that is neutral and generally 
>> goes unnoticed.  
>>
>> On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 6:00:48 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bike portraits. I told everyone I wanted a photo with rider + bike, and 
>>> 9 out of 10 complied willingly. Marc, Lone Wolf forever, protested 
>>> pitifully but the Platypus Rider nagged so he gave in.
>>>
>>> This is Max. He came from Ann Arbor and brought us a Quickbeam to 
>>> admire. Max is quick on his Quickbeam. When I realized we were going to be 
>>> late for our reservation, I left the group to race ahead so as to get our 
>>> table secured. Josh joined me and Max came from behind and left us in the 
>>> dust. He doesn’t even ride with his hands on his handlebars.
>>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Ryan (Muskegon, MI) brought a giant purple Nobilette. His saddle sits at 
>>> about my shoulder. 
>>> [image: image1.jpeg]
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh (Grand Rapids, MI) works for Velocity! He has a custom-color 
>>> Atlantis that he cherishes. He keeps it squeaky clean but we trashed it 
>>> with limestone dust and now his chain squeaks. He was a good sport.
>>> [image: image2.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Ben has a custom orange Rivendell. He has lots of bikes, several are 
>>> Rivs, and when I asked if this was his favorite he said, “It is my 
>>> *first.*” He built it as a single speed, so I said I would ride mine in 
>>> a single gear (the hardest) for the whole ride in solidarity, but I had to 
>>> shift once on the incline as I raced to the restaurant. It was shift or 
>>> die. Or worse, forfeit our table at the brewery.
>>> [image: image9.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Red mixte riders, unite! Tom (Grand Rapids) brought us a red Soma to 
>>> admire. I have a weakness for the red bikes. He also brought Marc and me 
>>> each a dozen eggs from his chickens. He changed into clean clothes for 
>>> dinner and the rest of us sat in our sweaty clothes.
>>> [image: image3.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Steve came all the way from Chicago and brought his very tall Homer. 
>>> That blue is so pretty in real life. 
>>> [image: image4.jpeg]
>>>
>>> This is Paul (Kalamazoo), who goes by Doc. He is a real doctor, a 
>>> retired emergency room physician, and this pretty Appaloosa is his 
>>> retirement gift to himself. 
>>> [image: image5.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Dennis (I didn’t catch what city he drove in from) brought a silvery 
>>> Appaloosa that we all thought looked fantastic with its hammered  Honjo 
>>> fenders. He doesn’t keep cars in his garage. Only his bikes.
>>> [image: image6.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Here is the Lone Wolf, Marc Irwin! I think he smiled so well for the 
>>> camera even though it nearly killed him. He’s got a black powder-coated 
>>> Hunq with new black fenders. He once told me this is the bike he will die 
>>> with. I usually see him on his Sam, but the Hunq is his favorite. All 
>>> Marc’s parts fall off or break eventually. He rides thousands of miles in 
>>> all weather; what else would you expect of a Lone Wolf?
>>> [image: image7.jpeg]
>>>
>>> And finally, me. You have heard enough about this Platypus. This was my 
>>> first Rivendell Ride, and first time helping to organize one. I wish I had 
>>> had tee shirts made. 
>>> [image: image8.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Up next: fork crown pics!
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On Jul 16, 2022, at 6:31 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> We had our Rivendell Ride today, and I was so happy that we had 10 
>>> riders! We rode the KalHa

Re: [RBW] Southwest Michigan Rivendell Ride ✅

[Ray Varella]

That looks like a lot of fun. 
Leah, you could an ambassador for Riv who travels around and organizes 
these sorts of rides. 
I doubt that sort of position exists…but still. 

Ray “not far north of Riv World Headquarters”

On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 6:19:56 PM UTC-7 Chris L wrote:

> Since Marc's Hunqapillar is now black, my gray/orange 54cm is even more 
> rare!  His was the only other one I know about, although one of the 54 
> prototypes has the orange accents, so it may be out there somewhere.  
>
> To be honest, I've long thought of changing mine to black.  I'm not big on 
> conspicuous appearances and prefer a bike that is neutral and generally 
> goes unnoticed.  
>
> On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 6:00:48 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Bike portraits. I told everyone I wanted a photo with rider + bike, and 9 
>> out of 10 complied willingly. Marc, Lone Wolf forever, protested pitifully 
>> but the Platypus Rider nagged so he gave in.
>>
>> This is Max. He came from Ann Arbor and brought us a Quickbeam to admire. 
>> Max is quick on his Quickbeam. When I realized we were going to be late for 
>> our reservation, I left the group to race ahead so as to get our table 
>> secured. Josh joined me and Max came from behind and left us in the dust. 
>> He doesn’t even ride with his hands on his handlebars.
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> Ryan (Muskegon, MI) brought a giant purple Nobilette. His saddle sits at 
>> about my shoulder. 
>> [image: image1.jpeg]
>>
>>
>> Josh (Grand Rapids, MI) works for Velocity! He has a custom-color 
>> Atlantis that he cherishes. He keeps it squeaky clean but we trashed it 
>> with limestone dust and now his chain squeaks. He was a good sport.
>> [image: image2.jpeg]
>>
>> Ben has a custom orange Rivendell. He has lots of bikes, several are 
>> Rivs, and when I asked if this was his favorite he said, “It is my 
>> *first.*” He built it as a single speed, so I said I would ride mine in 
>> a single gear (the hardest) for the whole ride in solidarity, but I had to 
>> shift once on the incline as I raced to the restaurant. It was shift or 
>> die. Or worse, forfeit our table at the brewery.
>> [image: image9.jpeg]
>>
>> Red mixte riders, unite! Tom (Grand Rapids) brought us a red Soma to 
>> admire. I have a weakness for the red bikes. He also brought Marc and me 
>> each a dozen eggs from his chickens. He changed into clean clothes for 
>> dinner and the rest of us sat in our sweaty clothes.
>> [image: image3.jpeg]
>>
>> Steve came all the way from Chicago and brought his very tall Homer. That 
>> blue is so pretty in real life. 
>> [image: image4.jpeg]
>>
>> This is Paul (Kalamazoo), who goes by Doc. He is a real doctor, a retired 
>> emergency room physician, and this pretty Appaloosa is his retirement gift 
>> to himself. 
>> [image: image5.jpeg]
>>
>> Dennis (I didn’t catch what city he drove in from) brought a silvery 
>> Appaloosa that we all thought looked fantastic with its hammered  Honjo 
>> fenders. He doesn’t keep cars in his garage. Only his bikes.
>> [image: image6.jpeg]
>>
>> Here is the Lone Wolf, Marc Irwin! I think he smiled so well for the 
>> camera even though it nearly killed him. He’s got a black powder-coated 
>> Hunq with new black fenders. He once told me this is the bike he will die 
>> with. I usually see him on his Sam, but the Hunq is his favorite. All 
>> Marc’s parts fall off or break eventually. He rides thousands of miles in 
>> all weather; what else would you expect of a Lone Wolf?
>> [image: image7.jpeg]
>>
>> And finally, me. You have heard enough about this Platypus. This was my 
>> first Rivendell Ride, and first time helping to organize one. I wish I had 
>> had tee shirts made. 
>> [image: image8.jpeg]
>>
>> Up next: fork crown pics!
>> Leah
>>
>> On Jul 16, 2022, at 6:31 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> We had our Rivendell Ride today, and I was so happy that we had 10 
>> riders! We rode the KalHaven Trail, a rail trail that spans the 34 miles 
>> between Kalamazoo and South Haven. Eight of the ten riders brought 
>> Rivendells, most had seen a lot of miles. The oldest bike was the ‘97 or 
>> ‘98 orange Custom, and the newest was my 2020 Platypus.
>>
>>
>> Here is the lineup, alphabetized:
>> 2 Appaloosas 
>> 1 Atlantis (in custom green paint)
>> 1 Custom orange Rivendell
>> 1 Homer
>> 1 Hunq
>> 1 Platypus
>> 1 Quickbeam
>>
>> And one Nobilette and a Soma mixte.
>>
>> It was great weather and good company, and we continued our fellowship at 
>> a local brewery post-ride. It was nice for Marc and me to meet everyone in 
>> real life and admire their bikes. We are planning our next ride for fall 
>> colors on the White Pine Trail. I bet it’s as pretty as it sounds.
>>
>> Photos in the next post, so wacky Google Groups doesn’t get the 
>> opportunity to turn all my photos sideways.
>>
>> Leah
>>
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[RBW] Re: 56+ before 55!

[Ray Varella]

That’s a really beautiful area Drew. 
I was down that way for work on Thursday and pulled over near Crystal 
Springs to take a call. 
While I was sitting there I watched a Bald Eagle come up from the reservoir 
with a freshly caught fish. 
He/she circled for several loops gaining altitude and then headed north. 
I don’t know if there is a nesting pair there but this bird had full adult 
plumage. 
Keep your eye out for any sightings, they are such majestic creatures. 

Lots of nice shots in your album, thank you for sharing and wishing you 
good health. 

A little tip for the others, you can usually avoid the crowds at Alice’s 
Restaurant by taking a seat over near the group W bench. 
Yes, there really is a group W bench there. 

Ray

On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 10:20:25 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Your custom is a beauty! Nice classic parts...especially the older Ritchey 
> Logic crankset
>
> On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 11:53:56 AM UTC-5 Drew Saunders wrote:
>
>> For more pics of the Red Riv, here are all of my Flickr photos with the 
>> tag "Rivendell" (I confirmed these are all public and don't require an 
>> account to view): 
>> https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id=26797636%40N05=date-taken-desc=rivendell_all=1
>>
>> The jersey is from Pearl Izumi, from maybe 2008-2010? They had just 
>> stopped making Sesame Street jerseys, so some were available for cheap from 
>> the PI factory outlet, and I got one of the last in Medium. I also have 
>> matching socks, and Cookie Monster socks too!
>>
>> Drew
>>
>> On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 9:22:33 AM UTC-7 Drew Saunders wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>
>>> Leah: here’s my ancient web page on my 1996/2000 Rivendell: 
>>> https://web.stanford.edu/~dru/myriv.html
>>> I really need to update that with new photos and a parts list.
>>>
>>> Joel: I hope that I don’t have to retire my Riv for many years, but some 
>>> day it may have to become a wall decoration, presuming that my wife would 
>>> allow it!
>>>
>>> Drew
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 16, 2022 at 7:19:40 AM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>>>

 Keep pushing.  I have a few years on you, 2 back surgeries, a replaced 
 knee.  I had to take 10 years off after my second back surgery then covid 
 came and I started riding again.  Of course I sold my custom, my AR and 1 
 of my Bleriot by then.  I had 2 years of riding and had a mishap this year 
 and have been off the bike for 2 months, my other knee, so rest and ice. 
  My mileage and speed have decreased but as I am approaching 71 I will be 
 just fine with my 12-17 mile rides when I get back on the bike.  

 Sorry you’ve had to go through your medical issues, never easy.  Ride 
 every day you can and take comfort as you roll down the road. A truly 
 beautiful bike, I hope you enjoy it for many more years.  
 On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 9:41:05 PM UTC-4 Drew Saunders wrote:

> For the past few years, I've tried to ride my age or more on or about 
> my birthday (this Sunday, the 17th, a.k.a. "World Emoji Day!"). Although 
> not as impressive as crossing the country, it was still a good ride today.
>
> In 2017, instead of riding 50+ miles for my 50th birthday, I spent my 
> birthday in the hospital due to a bad reaction to Xeloda, my first 
> chemotherapy drug. Oh, did I mention that in April of 2017 I found out 
> that 
> I had adenocarcinoma of the descending colon? I had the colectomy at the 
> end of May, and started chemo at the end of June (and re-started it at 
> the 
> end of July with a different drug). That'll put a damper in your riding 
> plans any day! 
>
> I was able to do a 53 mile ride before turning 51 in 2018, and a 55 
> mile ride before turning 52 in 2019. I found my fitness dropping 
> unexpectedly in 2020, but eventually figured out that it was due to 
> working 
> from home and no longer walking or biking to work (which is only 2 miles 
> each way, but it adds up). I added a neighborhood walk to my morning 
> routine and improved my fitness, but wasn't able to get in a 53+ mile 
> ride 
> for 2020. Then, in November 2020 (Friday the 13th, of course) I found out 
> that my cancer had returned in a single tumor in my liver. That (along 
> with 
> 1/4 of my liver) was removed at the end of December.
>
> 2021 was the year of regrowing my liver, so no long ride that July! I 
> still got in some medium rides, but didn't make 54KM, much less 54 miles 
> for any of them.
>
> I set out this morning to do a variation on the same 53 and 55 mile 
> ride I had done in 2018 and 2019, just with a little more at each end. 
> For 
> the locals, this is Cañada road to the end, then meander through 
> Woodside, 
> Portola Valley and Los Altos Hills, then Foothill Expressway/Steven's 
> Canyon Road and turn around at the Lakeshore Picnic Area then home. It 
> 

[RBW] Re: WTB - 58cm Bosco or 60cm tosco

[Ray Varella]

Rivendell offered the Bosco bullmoose in 1 1/8th threadless back in 2017 
when they had the first run of tandems. 
Not sure if they still offer it. 
I would consider selling the one I have if you strike out with them. 

Ray

On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 11:27:51 PM UTC-7 foe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Alternatively, wondering if anyone can verify if a Tosco/bosco bullmoose 
> exists for 1 1/8 steerers. If so, anyone know where I can find one? Thanks!
>
> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 10:00:33 AM UTC-7 Chris Copeland wrote:
>
>> Hi folks, 
>>I am going to switch up my cockpit soon, and I've already found my 
>> stem (nitto lugged 11cm). I know rivendell has Bosco's in stock, but I am 
>> hoping to find some used bars that are no longer of use to someone on here. 
>> Also looking for long pull brake levers, something like the XT pairs that 
>> Rivendell has on the site right now. Any help would be great, thanks!
>>
>> -Chris 
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Paint codes for Lime-Olive, Mustard Clem, XO-1 burnt orange?

[Ray Varella]

Max,
There are a few current model cars on the road with paint very close to the 
lime olive, or “sublime olive” as I like to call it. 
I was behind a Hyundai Venue the other day with a really nice green and 
there are a couple other brands with similar shades. 

I recall reading something from Rivendell that said paint codes from Taiwan 
did not match paint codes in the U.S. and exact matches might not be 
possible. 

Getting the paint code from a car model is pretty straight forward. 

Good luck 

Ray 

On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 7:52:16 AM UTC-7 Carl wrote:

> Hi,
> The mustard paint on Clems and Appas is Pantone 132 C.
>
> On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 8:45:31 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I could be wrong but I thought Riv was infamous for *not *having paint 
>> codes or touch up paint. 
>>
>> And I remember reading somewhere that Grant had tried to revive the old 
>> orange of the XO-1 but was not successful. I also seem to remember that he 
>> said it was the best orange he'd ever seen. 
>>
>> I'd wager that the orange of early Hillbornes and the current orange on 
>> Appaloosas & Roadinis is an attempt to have something close on Rivendell 
>> frames.
>>
>> A paint that's close to the Clem (and Appaloosa) mustard is Devin's 
>> glorious Rat Trap Pass frame (as seen on iBob here 
>> ).  
>> It's painted in RAL 1027, "curry." 
>>
>> Best of luck with your project. 
>>
>> [image: 3B2F6F39-F34A-4A1F-ABE8-EC1D29918C87.jpg]
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 10:28:57 AM UTC-4 Max S wrote:
>>
>>> Folks, 
>>>
>>> I will be sending a Riv mixte frame to be repainted and am hoping to do 
>>> it in a lime-olive color-way, as the kids say, of the Platypus. Failing 
>>> that, we'd go for a slightly darker version of the Mustard in early Clems, 
>>> or a burnt pumpkin orange of the XO-1. 
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if there's a RAL paintcode for that that I could supply 
>>> to the painter? 
>>>
>>> - Max "who among us was never damaged in shipping" in A2
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks Swift

[Ray Varella]

Hi,
I’ll take the saddle,
I don’t see your name, my apologies if I missed it. 

Thank you 
Ray

On Sunday, June 12, 2022 at 5:59:04 PM UTC-7 lwt...@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: IMG_0781 Small.jpeg][image: IMG_0784 Small.jpeg][image: IMG_0786 
> Small.jpeg][image: IMG_0782 Small.jpeg][image: IMG_0783 Small.jpeg][image: 
> IMG_0785 Small.jpeg]This is a fantastic looking saddle. I honestly just 
> don't have the patience to break it in. It makes me sad to let it go. $80 
> plus shipping

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[RBW] For sale Rivendell shiny rack

[Ray Varella]

New, never mounted stainless steel Rivendell shiny rack
$150. 
Local pickup preferred 
Vallejo CA

Save $20 plus tax on $170

No real savings if you have to pay shipping. 

Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 

Thank you 
Ray 

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[RBW] Current favorite tires in 60mm

[Ray Varella]

I’ve been riding the Schwalbe G one in 60mm x 650B on my Clem
In an attempt to decode the various iterations of Schwalbe tires, the 
Evolution casing are the lightest casing followed by the “performance” 
line. 

I would love to find these tires or the all road version in 70mm but only 
the performance casing seems to be available. 

I’ve ridden a number of Compass/Rene Herse tires as well as Gran Bois and 
these G ones suit my usage just great. 
Until either companies produce a 55mm or greater in smooth tread, I don’t 
think there is a better fat smooth tread tire out there. 

Does anyone have a favorite 55mm or larger multi purpose tire?

Ray

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Re: [RBW] Re: Club Rides On A Racing Platypus

[Ray Varella]

Take your Clem, ride with the slower group if need be. 
I rode mine for about 3 hours today and enjoyed every minute of it.  

Ray

On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 9:09:27 PM UTC-7 Mojo wrote:

> "A Clem" https://youtu.be/lmWFrMq3qNY?t=1194
> from the future past
>
> Joe
>
>
> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 7:06:56 PM UTC-6 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Another Clem vote here. They've seen a Platypus so show them another 
>> Rivendell beauty.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 8:58:38 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I think the Clem is the way. Maybe you're a little slower this week and 
>>> they can wait a minute, maybe Leah Peterson is a maniac who's just as fast 
>>> on a Clem! Let's find out!!!
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 3:02:02 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 
 This thread has been so fun for me to write, but I keep thinking, what 
 really else is there to say? We have covered the bases by now; we wondered 
 if a Raspberry Platypus could become a Racing Platypus, considered the 
 controversy, battled insecurities, confronted our (my) own preconceived 
 ideas, learned some new things from the racers. It’s been an adventure for 
 me, and thank you! But today, wouldn’t you know, I’ve got another bit of 
 conversation for your consideration.

 Last week I realized my rear tire was dripping sealant. A myriad of 
 tiny pin-prick holes that I have never noticed revealed themselves as my 
 Racing Platypus hung, inert on the wall. The only reason I caught it was 
 that my poor Shopping Platypus below it was catching the dripping sealant. 
 Below: left, front tire, with its tread still decent. Right, the rear 
 tire, 
 wet and holey and with very worn tread.

 [image: image0.jpeg]

 Turns out, the tire is toast. The rubber is thin enough that it is not 
 holding the sealant, and it is leaking through in minuscule holes and 
 tears. I never thought it would be worn out already - I’d never have 
 checked. I can’t tell you how many miles it took to make this happen 
 because I don’t track miles per bike - I just have a running total of 
 ridden miles. And between 2021-present, that number is…well, never mind, 
 because the calculator app crashed and I’m not totaling them up again. 
 BUT, 
 the tires are only a year and a few month old! I got 5 years out of the 
 Betty Foy tires before I sat next to it one day and noticed this:
 [image: image2.jpeg]

 The bike shop had nothing as wide or even close as the 44 mm tires on 
 the Racing Platypus, and the Ultradynamico tires I ultimately settled on 
 haven’t yet shipped. I hope they’re good! I got the gray 42 mm Cava Race. 

 But what am I going to take to club rides this week? I can’t see taking 
 the Racing Platypus without new tires. The other contenders: A 2019 
 Rivendell Clem L and the 2020 Shopping Platypus. Both are heavy. Neither 
 is 
 set up for speed. Good grief, look at these two:

 [image: image0.jpeg]

 [image: image3.jpeg]

 You are thinking, just strip the Shopping Plat and ride that. Ah, but 
 the lights are attached to the racks, so those stay and they are HEAVY. 
 That Platypus is the heaviest of my trio! I can strip bags, but how much 
 does that really help? The gearing is different on it; it is a 1x and the 
 gearing is not as “right” as my Racing Plat. I don’t have technical terms 
 for this - I can only say that the Rivendell drive train always gives me 
 the “right” gear - the Shopping Plat often feels too hard or too easy. I 
 don’t want to be fiddling around with that while chasing club riders. But 
 that isn’t even the deal-killer for me…

 It’s that basket. 

 Listen, I have weathered the silent prejudice as I wheeled the Racing 
 Platypus to the huddle. The Saddlesack and Billie Bars always invoke 
 judgment in this scenario, but a BASKET. I don’t think I can do it.

 That leaves the Clem. A bike that Grant, while extolling its virtues 
 and its versatility, said, “Just don’t take it on your club rides or 
 anything.” The Clem, with its ultra-high and proud Bosco Bars and its 
 step-through, beefy frame. I shudder to think of what they will think. I 
 don’t even know how fast I can ride it. I think maybe fast because it was 
 my only bike during 2020 and I rode it hard. But, it is unproven at club 
 rides and I’ve got hesitation.

 I don’t know which bike to take for certain, but you are free to send 
 your advice and/or regards.
 Leah

 On May 27, 2022, at 10:56 AM, Joe T  wrote:

 


 Another great story by Leah! From Vegas to Michigan life. Beautiful 
 Michigan, enjoy!
 On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 10:25:24 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> Kevin,
>
> Their slow 

[RBW] Re: 2 Piece Silver cranksets

[Ray Varella]

Hey Denis,
They are open today, they open in about 5 minutes. 
Try giving them a call. Everyone who works there is super helpful. 

Ray

On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 9:54:12 AM UTC-7 Artaud wrote:

> I should have specified that this was for a single speed setup — I'd only 
> keep the 32t chainring. I already have the bottom bracket and, paired with 
> an XTR double crank set up with a single chainring, it works well. What I'm 
> trying to determine, and couldn't find anywhere, is the diameter of the 
> Silver spindle: is it 24mm (great!), 30mm (boo...) or some other ungodly 
> standard?
>
> Denis, in NC
>
> Le samedi 28 mai 2022 à 12:01:02 UTC-4, Mr. Ray a écrit :
>
>> According to Phil Woods:
>>
>>   "TYPE OF CRANK THAT CAN BE USED: Outboard 24 mm spindle, *single 
>> chainring type* with a 0-millimeter offset or a zero-degree offset on 
>> crankarm or direct mount spider. Designed for half link".  
>>
>> On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 10:51:08 AM UTC-4 Artaud wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Bunch,
>>> Has anyone tried the recently restocked 2 Piece cranksets 
>>> ?
>>>  
>>> More importantly, does anyone know the spindle diameter? I'm hoping that it 
>>> would be compatible with a Shimano-size Philcentric BB 
>>> 
>>> .
>>> I sent Riv an email, but with the long weekend and the limited number of 
>>> cranks restocked, I'm afraid they'll sell out before I hear back. And I'd 
>>> rather not wait another two years for them to be back in stock.
>>>
>>> Denis, in NC
>>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB + WTT: Parts for Susie (WTB Pure V Saddle, Nitto R14/Shiny Rear Rack)

[Ray Varella]

Crust has them in stock. 

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 8:25:52 AM UTC-7 duh...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey gang,
>
> Trying to sort out the last bits for my incoming Susie.
>
> Looking to trade a Nitto R14 (w/ tombstone) for a Shiny Rear Rack.
>
> Also looking to purchase a WTB Pure V Saddle, preferably the classic all 
> black version.
>
> Please respond off list, thanks!
>
> Jared
>
>
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[RBW] WTB Slimsucker

[Ray Varella]

This bag seems like it would be a good fit given the clearance I have. 
Does anyone have one they want to move along?

They are sold out at Riv. 

Thank you 
Ray

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[RBW] Re: Jim 7-Speed Cassettes

[Ray Varella]

Rich,
 The usability of 10 speed chains may have something to do with using 
thinner cogs than what existed in the days of 7 speed cassettes and 
freewheels. 
I’m just guessing but it would make sense to use parts which are currently 
available. 

Ray

On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 9:36:41 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> I was going to pick one of these up but they went fast! 
>
> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 9:06:24 AM UTC-7 RichS wrote:
>
>> I'm the target market for these cassettes since my friction shifted bikes 
>> use 7 and 8 speed cogs; for the time being though I have enough cassettes 
>> and spare cogs. What piqued my curiosity was Grant runs these with 10 speed 
>> chains - and 9s. Something I haven't attempted but maybe worth a go. Anyone 
>> here done a comparison?
>>
>> Thanks very much.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 9:17:20 AM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Garth about the poor gear progressions on the 13-34 Jim.  
>>>  The Shimano HG-50-K 13-134 is
>>> 13-15-17-20-24-29-34
>>> which IMHO is much better, it avoids the 15-18 problem and has 2-3-4-5-5 
>>> spacing above 15 vs the Jim's  3-3-3-4-6 spacing.   I used the HG-50-K on 
>>> my 88 Voyageur and gives very good spacing.   IRD also sold the same copy 
>>> of a HG-50-K for about $30 2 years ago.  I do not see it in the IRD store 
>>> now.  Maybe they changed suppliers.
>>>
>>> The 13-42 is also poor do to the 13-16 jump leaving NO 2 step drop for 
>>> the high gears.  My 1975 Shimano 14-32 5 speed had a 14-17 jump and was 
>>> always frustrating on level terrain finding a good high cog.  The 13-15 
>>> solves that.
>>>
>>> In all, why does anyone want to go from 9 speed to 7 speed???   I can 
>>> see them saying here is a supply of 7 speed for folks with 126 OLD rears, 
>>> but if you have a 130 OLD rear just use the 9 speeds out there.  They have 
>>> better progression.
>>>
>>> I think RBW is pitching folks a lemon with these as saying convert from 
>>> 9 to 7 speeds.
>>>
>>> John Hawrylak
>>> Woodstown NJ
>>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 7:30:36 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>>
 I had some bit of hope that these would use an consistent gear 
 progression of 15-17-20-24 on the 13-34, but no . S-Works does the 
 overly big 15-18 jump along with the 18-21-24 which is unnecessarily 
 close. 
 I often wonder of anyone who designs these actually rides it. IRD does 
 some 
 weird cog progression with some of their offerings as well. 
 On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 5:00:50 PM UTC-4 hinton...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> In 2022, pretty cool to see 7-speed cassettes sell out in less than 12 
> hours. But, if you missed out, this is a PSA that Soma has them in stock 
> still, though they don’t include the spacers like Riv did.
>
> 13-34: 
> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/590906-s-ride-cassette-7sp-13-34t-cs-m200-6765?category=735
>
> 13-42: 
> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/590907-s-ride-cassette-7sp-13-42t-cs-e500-6766?category=735
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[RBW] Re: That new rear derailer

[Ray Varella]

I’m definitely in for at least one. 

I’m also curious about the V-brakes. The feature of being able to open far 
enough to clear a fat tire has me sold. 

Ray

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 7:33:54 AM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:

> From the Blahh:
> “Yesterday our first sample rear derailer was sent to us from ye olde 
> People's Republic of China, made by the same people who've made the 
> derailers many of you are riding with now, assuming they are not Shimano or 
> Microshift or Campagnolo. They made it according to our design, which 
> borrowed some of its geometry from Shimano's Rapid Rise derailers, which I 
> ordinarily wouldn't do, but justify now because Shimano has discontinued 
> this style of derailer, and it's too good to be extinct. If Shimano decides 
> to make them again, which NO WAY, they'd have to do it before we sink tons 
> of money and have to stop and disappoint the factory and lose all kinds of 
> international face. It's complicated. Nobody in Taiwan is interested. 
> Nobody in America is capable beyond "theoretically." It sure can't happen 
> in Europe. A small CNC machinist is not going to do it, assembly and all, 
> for less than a price to us that would mean a price to you of less than 
> $800. So please don't punch up at your beloved Rivendell or an unbeloved me 
> for "going to China."  China is the only way these are gonna get made 
> before Kingdom Come. Your buddy the machinist is not capable of making one 
> of these in a form and with a price that will work.”
>
> I’ll also be ordering at least one of these. I’ve wasted enough dollars 
> and hours trying to find a RD that will fit a 11-40t cassettes and keep the 
> chain tight with a double crankset (46/30t). This looks like a shinny 
> silver bullet solution for a fair price. 
>
> Does it look like a 11t jockey and 13t pulley?
>
> On Friday, 29 April 2022 at 17:22:13 UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Big pulley and rapid rise. Gonna buy a couple of these.
>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-04-29 at 8.21.30 PM.png]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Do the Sam Hillborne and Platypus have the same clearances?

[Ray Varella]

Thank you Jason and Jon,
I wasn’t sure if the Sams had gained some clearance with the addition of 
V/cantilever brakes. 
This clarifies it. 

Ray

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 12:31:19 PM UTC-7 row.n.2...@gmail.com wrote:

> Ray
> I have a 58 Canti Sam & a 55 Platty.
> I run 700x 40C knobbys on the Sam and sometimes Little Big Ben's.  I've 
> run Schwalbe g-one alrounders too all about 40mm wide or 1.5"
> The 55 Platty I run 28 x 2 Schwalbe G1 extra grip knobbys or sometimes 
> Schwalbe Big Bens
> Each about 50 mm wide.
> Issues with clearance is at the chain stays on the Sam trying to fit the 
> 28x 2s
> My best answer is the 700C tires on the Sam will fit on the Platty but my 
> tires on the Platty will not clear
> the 700C Sam. 700c & 28 are interchangeable.
> I have v brakes on the Platty. Cantilevers on the Sam. No fenders.
> I have not tried to interchange tires I just took measurements at the 
> chain stays.
> Hope this helps.
> Jon
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 10:51 AM Ray Varella  wrote:
>
>> Specifically, do they each fit the same size tires?
>> Rivendell is generally conservative with tire sizing on their frames. 
>> Does anyone have a current Sam and Platypus to compare?
>>
>> Thank you 
>> Ray
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Re: [RBW] Do the Sam Hillborne and Platypus have the same clearances?

[Ray Varella]

Thank you John and Jason,
That makes it very clear. 
I wasn’t sure if the Sam’s had gained more clearance with e addition of V/ 
cantilever brakes.  

Ray

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 12:31:19 PM UTC-7 row.n.2...@gmail.com wrote:

> Ray
> I have a 58 Canti Sam & a 55 Platty.
> I run 700x 40C knobbys on the Sam and sometimes Little Big Ben's.  I've 
> run Schwalbe g-one alrounders too all about 40mm wide or 1.5"
> The 55 Platty I run 28 x 2 Schwalbe G1 extra grip knobbys or sometimes 
> Schwalbe Big Bens
> Each about 50 mm wide.
> Issues with clearance is at the chain stays on the Sam trying to fit the 
> 28x 2s
> My best answer is the 700C tires on the Sam will fit on the Platty but my 
> tires on the Platty will not clear
> the 700C Sam. 700c & 28 are interchangeable.
> I have v brakes on the Platty. Cantilevers on the Sam. No fenders.
> I have not tried to interchange tires I just took measurements at the 
> chain stays.
> Hope this helps.
> Jon
>
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 10:51 AM Ray Varella  wrote:
>
>> Specifically, do they each fit the same size tires?
>> Rivendell is generally conservative with tire sizing on their frames. 
>> Does anyone have a current Sam and Platypus to compare?
>>
>> Thank you 
>> Ray
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Re: [RBW] Re: Crust Clydesdale Forks and Rivs

[Ray Varella]

Burley makes a dog trailer!
That’s great. 
What is the weight limit?


Ray

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 7:58:11 AM UTC-7 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here’s how I carry my 65 lb dog. Burley dog trailer! 
>
> Joe
>
> [image: image]
>
> On Apr 17, 2022, at 7:27 AM, lucky...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> 
>
> I *really* want a Clydesdale fork. I had a bike in mind to put it on, but 
> now that they’re right in front of me, I can’t decide which to buy. I can 
> only afford one. My current bike has a 1” steerer (Klunker bike). But it’s 
> an expensive enough purchase that maybe it makes more sense to get the 1 
> 1/8” for more applications, and get a different bike…
> I wouldn’t put it on my Atlantis personally because I think it would be 
> too heavy. 
>
> On Apr 16, 2022, at 21:58, J Imler  wrote:
>
> Hi Max, I have a Clydesdale fork and a 10lb dog. It's perfect. 45lbs 
> would necessitate an electric assist in my opinion if you want to go for 
> distance. Otherwise, around the block a couple of times is likely. 
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 6:09:22 PM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:
>
>> Hi Bunch,
>>
>> I'm having some crazy thoughts ... thinking of outfitting my Sam or my 
>> Atlantis with a Clydesale Fork to carry my 45 pound dog.
>>
>> Two question to the group: 1) Will the Clydesdale fork work with either 
>> the Sam or the Atlantis? 2) Am I crazy to try to carry a 45 pound dog on a 
>> bike?
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>>
>> Max
>>
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[RBW] Do the Sam Hillborne and Platypus have the same clearances?

[Ray Varella]

Specifically, do they each fit the same size tires?
Rivendell is generally conservative with tire sizing on their frames. 
Does anyone have a current Sam and Platypus to compare?

Thank you 
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[RBW] Re: Roaduno 2022 concepts

[Ray Varella]

I have on of those Scorchers. 
It’s a really nice riding bike. 
If you come across one, snag it. 


Ray

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 2:56:14 PM UTC-8 Max S wrote:

> http://www.63xc.com/scorcher/nakash.jpg
>
> [image: Ibis Scorcher.jpg]
>
> - Max "mic drop" in A2
>
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 4:30:17 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Will responded to my email, explaining my mistake.  I saw instagram 
>> photos of prototypes.  I mistakenly thought that meant Riv has them.  The 
>> builder has them.  Then they will be painted.  Then they will be shipped.  
>> Then they will be assembled.  Then somebody can ride them.  
>>
>> I'll be patient...
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 8:06:38 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> There was an Instagram post showing that Riv has prototype samples of 
>>> all sizes of RoadUno, inviting us to come test ride them.  I just emailed 
>>> Will to find out if they really have a 57 ready to test ride for me.  Has 
>>> anybody ridden one at RBWHQ?
>>>
>>> I haven't seen numbers yet, but since they say "designed for swept bars" 
>>> I'm going to take them at their word that I won't be putting drops on a 
>>> RoadUno.  I think my urbanscorcher version of a RoadUno might have Riv 
>>> Bullmoose bars.  What would you run?  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Tektro spring

[Ray Varella]

Pam,
There is a Tektro USA replacement parts site. Try contacting them. 
If this link doesn’t paste, do a search for them. 

Ray

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On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 10:58:23 AM UTC-8 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

> Pam, your going to have to post a picture of the brake caliper, or list 
> the model number as Tektro makes a lot of different brakes.
>
> David
>
> On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:35:27 AM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> I've gone through 2 sets of brakes.  The spring on the rear brake has 
>> broken in the same place.  If anyone has one from a pair of brakes, I'd be 
>> interested.  These brakes have been great.  I've used them daily.  They 
>> last about 30,000 miles before the spring breaks.  The rest of the brakes 
>> are fine.  Thanks in advance.
>
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[RBW] Re: I'm a New Bike Commuter

[Ray Varella]

Roberta,
One thing I may have missed is what sort of work attire do you need to 
carry?
Two miles is a relatively short distance and unless it’s really humid or 
raining, you may not need to change. 
If your clothes need to be neatly pressed then you will need to keep them 
neatly folded for your commute. 
A basked with some sort of tote bag would likely cover most of your needs 
and keeping some work clothes at work could cover you for the days you 
really need to change. 
When I commuted 10 miles each way, I changed at work. 
When I commuted 3 miles each way, I rode in my work clothes. 
Neither job required dress attire. 
A backpack in hot weather doesn’t appeal to me but 2 miles gives to tons of 
flexibility. 

Congratulations on your short commute. What a blessing to have so many 
hours liberated from your workweek. 

Ray

On Saturday, February 5, 2022 at 6:57:50 AM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:

> *" I have one of those cheap packable backpacks 
> 
>  
> that folds up into its own pocket.  I use it for my work stuff and slide it 
> inside the pannier, basket or saddle bag.  That helps me keep my stuff more 
> organized. "--Tom*
>
>
> This is brilliant!!!  I like simplicity and no fuss.  The She-Devil 
> already has a basket and the Platypus, I expect, will soon have panniers.  
> If I take my third bike H. Homer Hilsen for a long after work ride, I can 
> use the Riv Saddle Sack, so it won't matter which bike I'll take--I'll be 
> set.
>
> It's so great reading about everyone's experiences.
>
> Roberta
>
> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 2:44:41 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
>
>> In my years of commuting I've used:
>> 1) Milk Crate
>> 2) Wald Basket
>> 3) Panniers
>> 4) Saddle Bag (Riv Large Saddle Sack)
>>
>> I have one of those cheap packable backpacks 
>> 
>>  
>> that folds up into its own pocket.  I use it for my work stuff and slide it 
>> *inside 
>> *the pannier, basket or saddle bag.  That helps me keep my stuff more 
>> organized. I also sling it on my back when I'm locking up my bike, etc. . I 
>> borrowed the idea from a friend, so I can't take credit.  If you use a  
>> basket I recommend a foam pad for the bottom, though.
>> For short trips my preference would be a basket.  It stays on the bike, 
>> is transparent to the wind when empty, and keeps my stuff in view. 
>>
>> Tom
>>
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Re: [RBW] Please help me find a Rosco Bubbe MMM!

[Ray Varella]

I wish I still had mine to sell you Joe. 
I was at the lower end of ideal fit and moved it along. 
Good luck in your search. 
You might try posting on the San Francisco Craigslist. 
I’ve seen a couple of them in the wild over the last few years. 

Ray

On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 6:15:38 PM UTC-8 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:

> Kai, thank you for sharing those photos of your Rosco. I love the custom 
> ergo-grips! I appreciate hearing how much you like yours and I’ll be sure 
> to never give up the search for one my size!
>
> Jared, if anyone reaches out to me with a large (too big for me) I’ll be 
> sure to let you know. And thanks for your words of encouragement!
>
> Ray, the new Rosco-Platy’s look great but they are lacking the features 
> that make the Rosco MMM the ideal bike for me. There really is nothing 
> about the MMM that I’d change if I were to order a custom….right down to 
> the color. As much as I am tempted to jump on a Rosco-Platy, I think they’d 
> best end up in the hands of someone who really loves every aspect of it.
>
> Thanks everyone for your thoughts on this endeavor! I love the community 
> surrounding these beautiful bikes :-)
>
> Joe
>
> On Jan 30, 2022, at 6:02 PM, Ray Varella  wrote:
>
>
> Keep in mind that there is a run of Roscoe Bubbe Platypuses on the way. 
>
> They will easily fit the same size or larger tire than the earlier MMM
> Three sizes, two colors. 
>
> Ray
> On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 5:31:30 PM UTC-8 duh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Kai,
>>
>> Don't you have 2 of those Roscos? 
>>
>> Thats my dream Rivendell so if you did want to at some point downsize I'd 
>> be happy to entertain the idea
>>
>> I'm sure there's a list of people who have said the same thing, but add 
>> my name to it if there's a sliver of possibility there.
>>
>> Joe,
>>
>> Good luck with your search, I always keep an eye out for a large Rosco 
>> Step Thru, so I know where you're coming from. 
>>
>> You'll land one eventually, hopefully sooner than later!
>>
>> Best
>> Jared in SLO, CA
>>
>> On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 5:13:19 PM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> People will try to tell you different, but the truth is there's no 
>>> better bike in the world than Rosco Bubbe step through...  Here's one of 
>>> mine (of Will's design), probably too big for you- Rosco 
>>> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/5UqTJPoisD1FiHJc9>  
>>> Good luck, never give up...
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 1:49:30 PM UTC-5 jmlmu...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know this is a long, long, long-shot, but I am searching for a Rosco 
>>>> like the ones in the photo below or as Bill L once called it, the Rosco 
>>>> Bubbe Medium Mountain Mixte. I spoke to Will about the frame and it ticks 
>>>> off ALL the boxes for what I am looking for. 
>>>>
>>>> Supposedly there were two batches of 12 made. The first batch was a 
>>>> more pale blue than the second. I couldn’t tell you which shade of blue is 
>>>> my favorite color as they both are gorgeous. The lighter blue is my 
>>>> current 
>>>> favorite but the darker reminds me more of the cerulean crayons that were 
>>>> my favorite as a child. The size of the frame is perfect for my 85 PBH and 
>>>> I'm told it’s able to do all the things I’d want to do with it. If I could 
>>>> afford a custom, I get this bike made in either one of those shades of 
>>>> blue 
>>>> but most likely the lighter shade.
>>>>
>>>> I suffered a shoulder injury lifting my lady’s lightweight road bike up 
>>>> onto a roof rack. It has been a few months but unfortunately it still 
>>>> hasn’t healed. Getting my Sam up and down the stairs at my house has 
>>>> become 
>>>> a frightening chore, especially when loaded. I’m hoping that the lifter 
>>>> bar 
>>>> will help prevent future injuries. My line of work requires me to hold a 
>>>> boom microphone over my head 5 days a week so I need my shoulders in tip 
>>>> top condition!
>>>>
>>>> I’ve been dreaming of a 650B go-everywhere-with-all-my-things bike 
>>>> (GEWAMT?). After speaking with Vince about whether the medium 650B Gus 
>>>> would be a good fit for me, he strongly suggested the large which is 
>>>> designed for 700C wheels (not that it matters since I didn’t pre-order 
>>>> one). The 53cm Atlantis is currently the idea

[RBW] Re: Please help me find a Rosco Bubbe MMM!

[Ray Varella]

Keep in mind that there is a run of Roscoe Bubbe Platypuses on the way. 

They will easily fit the same size or larger tire than the earlier MMM
Three sizes, two colors. 

Ray
On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 5:31:30 PM UTC-8 duh...@gmail.com wrote:

> Kai,
>
> Don't you have 2 of those Roscos? 
>
> Thats my dream Rivendell so if you did want to at some point downsize I'd 
> be happy to entertain the idea
>
> I'm sure there's a list of people who have said the same thing, but add my 
> name to it if there's a sliver of possibility there.
>
> Joe,
>
> Good luck with your search, I always keep an eye out for a large Rosco 
> Step Thru, so I know where you're coming from. 
>
> You'll land one eventually, hopefully sooner than later!
>
> Best
> Jared in SLO, CA
>
> On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 5:13:19 PM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
> wrote:
>
>> People will try to tell you different, but the truth is there's no better 
>> bike in the world than Rosco Bubbe step through...  Here's one of mine (of 
>> Will's design), probably too big for you- Rosco 
>>   
>> Good luck, never give up...
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 1:49:30 PM UTC-5 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I know this is a long, long, long-shot, but I am searching for a Rosco 
>>> like the ones in the photo below or as Bill L once called it, the Rosco 
>>> Bubbe Medium Mountain Mixte. I spoke to Will about the frame and it ticks 
>>> off ALL the boxes for what I am looking for. 
>>>
>>> Supposedly there were two batches of 12 made. The first batch was a more 
>>> pale blue than the second. I couldn’t tell you which shade of blue is my 
>>> favorite color as they both are gorgeous. The lighter blue is my current 
>>> favorite but the darker reminds me more of the cerulean crayons that were 
>>> my favorite as a child. The size of the frame is perfect for my 85 PBH and 
>>> I'm told it’s able to do all the things I’d want to do with it. If I could 
>>> afford a custom, I get this bike made in either one of those shades of blue 
>>> but most likely the lighter shade.
>>>
>>> I suffered a shoulder injury lifting my lady’s lightweight road bike up 
>>> onto a roof rack. It has been a few months but unfortunately it still 
>>> hasn’t healed. Getting my Sam up and down the stairs at my house has become 
>>> a frightening chore, especially when loaded. I’m hoping that the lifter bar 
>>> will help prevent future injuries. My line of work requires me to hold a 
>>> boom microphone over my head 5 days a week so I need my shoulders in tip 
>>> top condition!
>>>
>>> I’ve been dreaming of a 650B go-everywhere-with-all-my-things bike 
>>> (GEWAMT?). After speaking with Vince about whether the medium 650B Gus 
>>> would be a good fit for me, he strongly suggested the large which is 
>>> designed for 700C wheels (not that it matters since I didn’t pre-order 
>>> one). The 53cm Atlantis is currently the ideal candidate, and a bike I’d 
>>> love to one day own since it’s designed around 650B, but I’d really like a 
>>> step through or at least a swoop tube, especially since this bike will 
>>> hopefully one day hold a child seat. (High top tube related trail injuries 
>>> might stand in the way of that plan).
>>>
>>> Again, I know its a long shot but I’m crossing my fingers that the kind 
>>> members here might keep an eye out for me if one pops up for sale. I 
>>> believe several of you folks own one and love them. If someone happens to 
>>> have one that’s gathering dust in the corner, I’d be happy to give it a 
>>> loving home!
>>>
>>> Thanks everyone,
>>>
>>> Joe Mullins
>>>
>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>>
>>> [image: Rosco MMMs.png] 
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 55cm Platypus for sale Davis, CA

[Ray Varella]

You would likely spend that much on a similar build. 
The current price on those frames is $1650


Ray

On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 9:30:35 AM UTC-8 care...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Is >$3k the going price for these models?  I realize it's has high end 
> components but so do other Rivs.  Since I suddenly became old and developed 
> arthritic knees I'm interested in a step though/mixte model. My Ram must be 
> worth a fortune.
>
>
> On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 7:34:10 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I wonder why the seller doesn’t want his Platy. I can’t imagine anyone 
>> not wanting their Platy! Can someone on here please give it a good home and 
>> tell us all about it when you do?
>>
>> On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 8:21:22 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I think the sticker is just a sticker. For fun. Same as the Riv folks 
>>> put on their bikes. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 29, 2022 at 11:53:55 PM UTC-5 Ahmed Elgasseir wrote:
>>>
 Sorry folks. The updated pic should be non portal creating. :-)

 A

 On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 8:43 PM  wrote:

> I can tell you this much: it’s not a California or UC Davis bike 
> license. 
>
> On Jan 29, 2022, at 20:40, John Rinker  wrote:
>
> It looks to me like either an ID bar code or a portal into another 
> reality where people live in friendly communities surrounded by respected 
> habitats suitable for the endemic species to thrive and the necessities 
> of 
> life are procured on foot or by bicycle. And there's a river.
>
> On Sunday, January 30, 2022 at 1:34:30 PM UTC+9 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> There will be no guesses. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, January 28, 2022 at 2:04:54 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Any guesses as to what that big black sticker is on the seattube? 
>>> College parking or commuter train thing? I'm into these frames but I'm 
>>> worried about what's under there...
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 5:13:13 PM UTC-8 Lucky wrote:
>>>
 NOT my bike but I am close enough to help if necessary. 


 https://sacramento.craigslist.org/bik/d/davis-rivendell-platypus/7438484202.html

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[RBW] Anticipating the 13-42 7 speed cassette

[Ray Varella]

Am I one of the few who thinks this is a great option. 
I applaud Merry Sales for their continued support of everyday practical 
bike gear.
I will definitely get a couple. 
I am just as eagerly awaiting Rivendell’s V- brake and rear derailer. 
Thank you once again Grant. 

Ray

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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto Faceplater 85mm

[Ray Varella]

Thank you Tim,

I’m set on the stem all. 

Ray

On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 8:44:04 AM UTC-8 Tim Baldwin wrote:

> Ray, I have one that I'm not using. Sending you a pm.
>
> On Sunday, January 9, 2022 at 7:50:07 PM UTC-6 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Like the title says, does anyone have an 85mm 31.8 faceplater quill stem 
>> they want to part with. 
>> Please let me know if you do. 
>>
>> Thank you 
>> Ray
>>
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[RBW] WTB Nitto Faceplater 85mm

[Ray Varella]

Like the title says, does anyone have an 85mm 31.8 faceplater quill stem 
they want to part with. 
Please let me know if you do. 

Thank you 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike storage solutions: 5 or 6 bikes, fenders

[Ray Varella]

The link I posted looks like the same hooks Patrick mentioned. 

Ray

On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 10:25:57 AM UTC-8 Ray Varella wrote:

> https://fb.watch/agltTZ-5OQ/
> I just copied this link, it looks like a product worth trying. 
>
> Ray
>
> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 10:15:10 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> + 1 for hooks on the wall. properly spaced. I've used J hooks, but 
>> switched to bike-specific hooks on plates that screw to a solid ~2" X 12" 
>> plank bolted to the studs. The heavy plank lets me mount the hooks securely 
>> and far enough to match bar width.
>>
>> I have my 5 hooks spaced so that all bikes can hang from the rear wheels 
>> -- easier to lift and hook the rear wheel than the front, IME. The front 
>> wheel of the longest bike is about 6" from the floor when hung. (Note: the 
>> heaviest bike is about 31 lb, and it's not hard to lift and hang it. 
>> Certainly if you can lift a Platypus or Clem over your head, you can hang 
>> one by the wheel from a hook.)
>>
>> FWIW, I also installed fiberboard backing that extends about 6" beyond 
>> the bikes in each direction to prevent black tire marks on off-white walls. 
>> The brown fiberboard is ugly, but not as ugly as smudged walls.
>>
>> I use the Delta Leonardo hooks, which have doubled in price since I 
>> bought mine some 5-6-7 years ago.
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 10:24 AM Ted Durant  wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 8:46:01 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Between the wide bars, heavy frames, and fenders, storage options are 
>>>> few.
>>>
>>>
>>> I hang bikes in the garage on horizontal hooks using Rubbermaid's 
>>> FastTrack system. Wide handlebars are an issue, though. It works, but the 
>>> hb's have to be turned, so the front wheel sticks out, and fenders can make 
>>> that a worse problem.
>>>
>>> In my basement I use j-hooks in a 2x4 that is bolted the wall about 6' 
>>> off the floor. Bikes with fenders hang from their back wheels, so I don't 
>>> have the rear fender scraping the floor problem. It does, however require 
>>> some agility and strength, especially for heavier bikes.
>>>
>>> The rack you showed in the picture shows 6 bikes very tightly packed. 
>>> That's only possible with relatively narrow handlebars and alternating 
>>> between front and rear wheel hanging. The nice thing about setting J-hooks 
>>> in a 2x4 is you can pick your width, allowing greater distance between 
>>> bikes for wider bars. That also helps with hanging the bikes from the rear 
>>> wheel, as it gives you space to stand at the side of the bike as you hang 
>>> it, rather than having to try manage it straight on. I stand next to the 
>>> bike, near the wall, and pick up the bike at the seat tube near the bottom 
>>> bracket. I swing the back of the bike up, leaving the front wheel on the 
>>> floor, and using the seat stay near the rear hub to help balance and lift. 
>>> My hooks are higher than they need to be, so I have to lift the bike a bit 
>>> higher to get the rim on the hook.
>>>
>>> Ted Durant
>>> Milwaukee, WI USA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike storage solutions: 5 or 6 bikes, fenders

[Ray Varella]

https://fb.watch/agltTZ-5OQ/
I just copied this link, it looks like a product worth trying. 

Ray

On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 10:15:10 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> + 1 for hooks on the wall. properly spaced. I've used J hooks, but 
> switched to bike-specific hooks on plates that screw to a solid ~2" X 12" 
> plank bolted to the studs. The heavy plank lets me mount the hooks securely 
> and far enough to match bar width.
>
> I have my 5 hooks spaced so that all bikes can hang from the rear wheels 
> -- easier to lift and hook the rear wheel than the front, IME. The front 
> wheel of the longest bike is about 6" from the floor when hung. (Note: the 
> heaviest bike is about 31 lb, and it's not hard to lift and hang it. 
> Certainly if you can lift a Platypus or Clem over your head, you can hang 
> one by the wheel from a hook.)
>
> FWIW, I also installed fiberboard backing that extends about 6" beyond the 
> bikes in each direction to prevent black tire marks on off-white walls. The 
> brown fiberboard is ugly, but not as ugly as smudged walls.
>
> I use the Delta Leonardo hooks, which have doubled in price since I bought 
> mine some 5-6-7 years ago.
>
> [image: image.png]
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 10:24 AM Ted Durant  wrote:
>
>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 8:46:01 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Between the wide bars, heavy frames, and fenders, storage options are 
>>> few.
>>
>>
>> I hang bikes in the garage on horizontal hooks using Rubbermaid's 
>> FastTrack system. Wide handlebars are an issue, though. It works, but the 
>> hb's have to be turned, so the front wheel sticks out, and fenders can make 
>> that a worse problem.
>>
>> In my basement I use j-hooks in a 2x4 that is bolted the wall about 6' 
>> off the floor. Bikes with fenders hang from their back wheels, so I don't 
>> have the rear fender scraping the floor problem. It does, however require 
>> some agility and strength, especially for heavier bikes.
>>
>> The rack you showed in the picture shows 6 bikes very tightly packed. 
>> That's only possible with relatively narrow handlebars and alternating 
>> between front and rear wheel hanging. The nice thing about setting J-hooks 
>> in a 2x4 is you can pick your width, allowing greater distance between 
>> bikes for wider bars. That also helps with hanging the bikes from the rear 
>> wheel, as it gives you space to stand at the side of the bike as you hang 
>> it, rather than having to try manage it straight on. I stand next to the 
>> bike, near the wall, and pick up the bike at the seat tube near the bottom 
>> bracket. I swing the back of the bike up, leaving the front wheel on the 
>> floor, and using the seat stay near the rear hub to help balance and lift. 
>> My hooks are higher than they need to be, so I have to lift the bike a bit 
>> higher to get the rim on the hook.
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee, WI USA
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[RBW] Re: Rosco Platypus = Joe's Custom

[Ray Varella]

If anyone was having trouble deciding between a Clem and a Platypus, this 
is your bike. 
55mm tires plus fenders, these are going to be super.

Ray

On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:03:20 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I love the red one. The world needs more red Rivs! 
>
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 6:10:55 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I totally see it - Joe, weren’t you saying “My bike is so good it should 
>> be a production bike”? Well, here it is! A budget version, admittedly. Did 
>> anyone else look at the images and wonder what possessed Riv to do such 
>> wild, fun colors? Maybe they feel they can let loose with the Rosco models? 
>> They are always such careful color choosers but this time they really went 
>> for it. Fun!
>>
>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 11:13:39 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> Funny that people have been saying "that's the way a bike should ride."  
>>> To me, that's the way a bike should LOOK.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 6:31:54 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>>>
 [image: FFE75BBA-C1CD-43D3-A68A-0EE834D94A86.png]
 Fun with a photo overlay with Joe’s custom. 

 On Thursday, 30 December 2021 at 14:32:27 UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> That's my bike! Stouter tubing, drop the lugs and fancy paint and 
> you're there. I dig it! 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> To my eye the new Rosco Platypus resembles Joe B.'s custom bike and 
>> both look excellent!
>> Doug[image: unnamed.jpg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: Did Rivendell publish a Hillibike catalog?

[Ray Varella]

Thank you Keith,
I recall seeing mention of Genghis and the Mongolian horseman/women but not 
all of this info in one place. 

Cheers,
Ray
On Sunday, December 19, 2021 at 10:34:17 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Wow this is really awesome! Thanks Keith B) 
>
> On Sunday, December 19, 2021 at 11:56:40 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> I hope Grant doesn't get mad at me, but I think this is one version:
>>
>>
>> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/files/THIS_ONE_Hilliworker_October_9.pdf?364
>>
>> It's really rough, and he originally shared it warts-and-all, in the 
>> spirit of openness and fun.  Some people have trouble with that, and feel 
>> compelled to criticize or correct, which wasn't the point. I doubt that's 
>> why it hasn't been finished yet, but read it in that vein.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, December 19, 2021 at 7:44:08 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Do you have any of those files, Johnny? 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 19, 2021 at 8:58:11 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
>>>> They released the working files I believe but an official brochure was 
>>>> never finalized.
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 10:05:36 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know there have been several times it was mentioned but I don’t 
>>>>> recall seeing a catalog devoted to the Hillibikes. 
>>>>> I’m sure if it exists, it would contain some worthwhile information. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone confirm whether or not it was produced?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you 
>>>>> Ray
>>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Did Rivendell publish a Hillibike catalog?

[Ray Varella]

I know there have been several times it was mentioned but I don’t recall 
seeing a catalog devoted to the Hillibikes. 
I’m sure if it exists, it would contain some worthwhile information. 

Can anyone confirm whether or not it was produced?

Thank you 
Ray

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[RBW] Re: Why did you buy your first Riv?

[Ray Varella]

I received an early flyer/reader in an order from American Cyclery San 
Francisco. 
After reading the specs on the frames, the Allrounder sounded like a great 
compliment to my classic road bike, by the time I ordered one they had gone 
to customs and the Atlantis was replacing the Allrounder. 
I went with a custom. It was one of the best handling bikes I’ve ever 
owned. 
I was bombing down Mt. Diablo one day and a couple guys on modern road 
bikes were trying to reel me in. 
When we got to the bottom of the mountain one of them said “you handle that 
old truck pretty well”. 
It still cracks me up to think about that. 

Grant and company design very nice riding bikes and really excel at the 
Allrounder style of bike. 

Ray

On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 1:53:52 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I was a Bridgestone guy, bought a leftover XO-3 in 1994 as Bstone USA was 
> folding and Grant was deciding what to do next. That turned out to be 
> Rivendell and I eventually bought this, a Romulus. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 12:53:10 PM UTC-8 aeroperf wrote:
>
>>
>> I see Laura B’s thread about Susie vs. Platy, and Iconley’s timeline with 
>> 15 Riv bikes, and so I thought I’d ask:
>>
>> What made you buy your first Rivendell bicycle?
>>
>> Not “What do you like about Rivendell bicycles”, or “Why did you buy a 
>> second one?”, but why did you buy your first?
>>
>>
>> In my case
>> I wanted steel, because I liked the feel over aluminum (carbon was just 
>> starting).
>> I wanted lugged steel, because I think I think a lugged steel bike is 
>> awesomely pretty.
>> I got to ride a friend’s Sam Hillborne in 2010, and it fit like a glove, 
>> and I remembered that.
>> So when I retired in 2014, I bought a Sam.
>>
>> Now I could go on about how I love my Sam, but that’s not the point of 
>> this.  It’s to find out why you bought your first.
>>
>> Did you Google “Rivendell” one day and stumble into the bicycle shop 
>> instead of the Tolkien book?
>> Did you want a bicycle that was at home on dirt roads, where the 24mm 
>> tires of a good used 80’s road bike just couldn’t cut it?
>> Do you think Grant Petersen is a bicycle god, and you’d buy anything that 
>> he designs, once you could afford it?
>> Are you into the “waxed canvas and square taper” kind of mindset?  
>> Did you get a Riv because it was a boutique bike, or in spite of that?
>>
>> Difficulty- no pictures, unless it is of a Riv in a tree with “A guy told 
>> me I could have this for free, if I climbed up and got it”.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

[Ray Varella]

Laura, 
You don’t mention where you are located, you may be able to locate someone 
near you for a test ride. 

Ray
Vallejo CA


On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 7:47:45 PM UTC-8 Ray Varella wrote:

> No assumptions here. 
> 55mm Rene Herse knobbies fit the Platypus with ample clearance all around. 
> I actually think it’s an ideal sized tire for the bike. 
> Fenders with these tires would not be ideal. 
>
> Ray
>
> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 3:33:03 PM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I would like to add how much this thread has helped me. No one can say if 
>> a particular bike will be what another person loves, but feedback helps to 
>> clarify what to expect out of the various models.
>>
>> The Susie could be built as an all-rounder bike but, I am thinking, it 
>> would undermine its potential. It is meant to have big tough tires and 
>> venture into bumpy terrain. If I got a Susie, I would build it for that 
>> purpose.
>>
>> On the flip side, there are several Rivs that would be perfect for a mix 
>> of pavement and smooth trails, without compromising anything. It helps to 
>> have realistic expectations and, hopefully, build a bike with fewer re-dos!
>>
>> I will get a Platypus as my mostly-road bicycle, with hopes to eventually 
>> add a Susie or Clem L for maximum off road comfort… :-)
>>
>> Arrg. More waiting,
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 6:05:20 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I'd stick with the assumption that 50mm is the limit. Platypus started 
>>> as a road bike with sidepull calipers as the Cheviot, then got an update 
>>> with v-brakes and a new name. My Riv custom-with-droptube was also designed 
>>> as primarily a pavement bike and shares the same fork crown*, I'm running 
>>> 47mm tires with about 3mm of room left. 
>>>
>>> *Historical note: My frame was being designed at the same time as the 
>>> Platypus, I think it's basically a Platy prototype without the curvy 
>>> mid-stays! 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 2:08:02 PM UTC-8 Garth wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually is says both 50mm and 2.2"  in the description, plus 48mm with 
>>>> fenders. Actual tire fitting will vary as there is always someone wanting 
>>>> to see how close they can be to the tubes and tire widths vary with rim 
>>>> widths. That's splittin' some split hairs of an seemingly hairy situation 
>>>>  "Susie loves me, Susie loves me not". haha ! Actually neither ! 
>>>> Actual Love isn't double-minded... "not two" Invisibility. 
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 4:28:03 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Huh, I hadn't noticed the 2.2 reference before. Riv needs to 
>>>>> fact-check that page because earlier it states max is 50mm, which is 
>>>>> about 
>>>>> 1.96 inches. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 12:28:50 PM UTC-8 Ryland wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This might be splitting hairs, but Rivendell’s website states that 
>>>>>> the Platypus can accommodate a 2.2” tire. Additionally, Grant states 
>>>>>> that 
>>>>>> “It’s also nimble and more than able for fast fire-road rides with the 
>>>>>> right tires”.  https://www.rivbike.com/products/frame-platypus-2021
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As a Platypus owner myself, I might be biased, but I think if you’re 
>>>>>> looking for an all-rounder you should hold out for the Platypus.
>>>>>> - Ryland
>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 12:02:07 PM UTC-5 Mr. Ray wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Welcome Laura,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My posts have not been posted by admin so hopefully this one gets 
>>>>>>> through.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Platypus can only accommodate tires up to 2".  If you plan to do 
>>>>>>> off pavement, I would go for the Longbolts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 8:08:15 PM UTC-5 me2g...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello, I am new to this group and still trying to decide which 
>>>>>>>> Rivendell bike will be my first. I am torn between the Platypus and

[RBW] Re: Susie Longbolts vs Platypus for both pavement & off-road riding?

[Ray Varella]

No assumptions here. 
55mm Rene Herse knobbies fit the Platypus with ample clearance all around. 
I actually think it’s an ideal sized tire for the bike. 
Fenders with these tires would not be ideal. 

Ray

On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 3:33:03 PM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com wrote:

> I would like to add how much this thread has helped me. No one can say if 
> a particular bike will be what another person loves, but feedback helps to 
> clarify what to expect out of the various models.
>
> The Susie could be built as an all-rounder bike but, I am thinking, it 
> would undermine its potential. It is meant to have big tough tires and 
> venture into bumpy terrain. If I got a Susie, I would build it for that 
> purpose.
>
> On the flip side, there are several Rivs that would be perfect for a mix 
> of pavement and smooth trails, without compromising anything. It helps to 
> have realistic expectations and, hopefully, build a bike with fewer re-dos!
>
> I will get a Platypus as my mostly-road bicycle, with hopes to eventually 
> add a Susie or Clem L for maximum off road comfort… :-)
>
> Arrg. More waiting,
>
> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 6:05:20 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I'd stick with the assumption that 50mm is the limit. Platypus started as 
>> a road bike with sidepull calipers as the Cheviot, then got an update with 
>> v-brakes and a new name. My Riv custom-with-droptube was also designed as 
>> primarily a pavement bike and shares the same fork crown*, I'm running 47mm 
>> tires with about 3mm of room left. 
>>
>> *Historical note: My frame was being designed at the same time as the 
>> Platypus, I think it's basically a Platy prototype without the curvy 
>> mid-stays! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 2:08:02 PM UTC-8 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> Actually is says both 50mm and 2.2"  in the description, plus 48mm with 
>>> fenders. Actual tire fitting will vary as there is always someone wanting 
>>> to see how close they can be to the tubes and tire widths vary with rim 
>>> widths. That's splittin' some split hairs of an seemingly hairy situation 
>>>  "Susie loves me, Susie loves me not". haha ! Actually neither ! 
>>> Actual Love isn't double-minded... "not two" Invisibility. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 4:28:03 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Huh, I hadn't noticed the 2.2 reference before. Riv needs to fact-check 
 that page because earlier it states max is 50mm, which is about 1.96 
 inches. 



 On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 12:28:50 PM UTC-8 Ryland wrote:

> This might be splitting hairs, but Rivendell’s website states that the 
> Platypus can accommodate a 2.2” tire. Additionally, Grant states that 
> “It’s 
> also nimble and more than able for fast fire-road rides with the right 
> tires”.  https://www.rivbike.com/products/frame-platypus-2021
>
> As a Platypus owner myself, I might be biased, but I think if you’re 
> looking for an all-rounder you should hold out for the Platypus.
> - Ryland
> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 12:02:07 PM UTC-5 Mr. Ray wrote:
>
>> Welcome Laura,
>>
>> My posts have not been posted by admin so hopefully this one gets 
>> through.
>>
>> The Platypus can only accommodate tires up to 2".  If you plan to do 
>> off pavement, I would go for the Longbolts.
>>
>> On Sunday, December 5, 2021 at 8:08:15 PM UTC-5 me2g...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, I am new to this group and still trying to decide which 
>>> Rivendell bike will be my first. I am torn between the Platypus and a 
>>> Susie 
>>> Longbolts. I hope that there are people here that have ridden both, or 
>>> have 
>>> turned one of them into their all-around, multi-terrain bike. Ideally, 
>>> I 
>>> would LOVE to have both, but that will take a few years to achieve!
>>>
>>> As a note, all-terrain is pavement, gravel, fire roads, hard-packed 
>>> sand. Not aggressive single track or severe off-road.
>>>
>>> Rivendell promotes the Platypus mainly for pavement and the Susie 
>>> for trails. In theory, if both were equipped with the same 2.2” 
>>> all-terrain 
>>> tire, which one would make the best multi-use bike? Would the 
>>> differences 
>>> be minor or is the geometry on one better able to adapt?
>>>
>>> Should I limit my expectations to what the bikes were designed for?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help,
>>> Laura
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Ron's bag, Cliffhanger rims, RBW hat, etc

[Ray Varella]

Hi Taylor,
Are the Cliffhanger rims still available?

Thank you 
Ray

On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 5:58:11 PM UTC-8 Taylor M wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm clearing out some things from my parts bin. Buyer pays shipping. Let 
> me know if you're interested :)
>
> *Fabio's Tech Fanny*, Large, Black lava doom. New, never used. $165.
>
> *Swift Industries Zeitgeist Bag*, Black heather VX21. Like new condition, 
> lightly used twice. $200.
>
> Pair of *Velocity Cliffhanger rims*, 27.5" (650b), 32h, polished. New, 
> never used. $240.
>
> *RWB/Blue Lug hat*, Tan. New, never used. $55.
>
> Pair of *Paul Components Motolite Linear Pull brakes*, Silver. New, never 
> used. $150 each. 
>
> Thanks!
> T
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Re: [RBW] Some refinements on the Platypus: IRD Wayback Seat Post

[Ray Varella]

Leah et al;
You pointed out exactly why the first thing I look at with bike fit is if I 
can achieve the desired setback for my preferred position. 
Everyone will differ and everyone will have their ideal range but once you 
know your comfort zone you can get a better idea where your frame will fit 
regarding your preferred riding position. 
For myself, I tend to avoid frames with seat tubes of 74 degrees and 
steeper because I can’t slide a Brooks saddle far enough back to achieve a 
comfortable riding position. Someone riding an identical sized bike might 
be fine due to either saddle choice, femur  length,  bar height or riding 
position.  
Bicycle manufacturers aim for the meaty part of the curve but it’s up to us 
to dial in our preferred fit. 
Kudos to you for recognizing this and hopefully others will optimize their 
fit for their riding style. 

Ray

On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 7:50:50 PM UTC-8 Lucky wrote:

> —-The only hangup with the Thompson being, you can only get it into the 
> frame up to the bend in the post
>
> On Nov 20, 2021, at 18:13, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> 
>
> You are *absolutely right* to change saddle setback for comfort and 
> balance (and torque too) instead of the stem length; saddle position, 
> including setback, is the anchor of bike fit, all else is adjusted in 
> reference to the saddle. I found this out the very hard way (see below). 
>
> I don't think that the Wayback looks bad, but perhaps the Thompson Layback 
> in silver might look slightly more elegant? I used a Thompson long ago to 
> get a Brooks Flyer far back enough on a 73* seat tube on a mountain bike 
> and it worked well despite the rails way-too-short for a 73* seat tube.
>
>
>
> -- *** -
> Years ago when I still believed in "KOPS" -- "knee over pedal spindle" -- 
> and liking then as I do now a lot of leg extension, I ended up with a 
> Ritchey mountain bike seatpost on a road bike with saddle all the way 
> forward on the rails (it would slip *forward* under my weight until I 
> slathered the cradle in blue Loctite), and this had me installing a 140 mm 
> (later 135 mm) Cinelli stem, with bar 6" below saddle. I was a young 39-40 
> something, so quite flexible.
>
> The frame was actually quite nice -- upper end British Falcon, tout 531C 
> -- with longish stays and very, very short front-center. You can imagine 
> what the bike felt like on fast downhill sweepers, especially with gusty 
> sidewinds. My weight was biased so for forward that I'd skip the rear wheel 
> when standing to climb. 
>
> Alas, I sold the bike before I learned (from Grant, in fact) how to 
> properly set up a bike: "Get your bar up and back and you saddle back and 
> down." I've not looked back. Thanks, Grant.
>
> That Falcon would probably have felt very comfortable with a wayback 
> saddle to give torque over the top-dead-center of the pedal stroke and 
> enable the core muscles to support the torso, reducing weight on shoulders, 
> arms, and hands. With the rearward weight and the short front end, I'll bet 
> that Falcon would not only have pedaled very nicely, but handled very 
> nicely too, perhaps with something of Grant's signature "stable yet quick 
> in turn-in" feel. 
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 2:03 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <4F9D0A57-31F2-46D8-9FC5-2B4CD19A8377.jpeg>
>> <01A4B13F-B79C-4AD6-87AA-865A60510C77.jpeg>
>>
>  . I had not been getting along with my stock seat post (the nose of 
>> the saddle would tip up) and my Brooks (it was rubbing me the wrong way - 
>> ha) a Nitto S83 post, which didn’t offer enough setback. I wanted to 
>> scoot back, but was at the end of the Rivet. I was holding my bars forward 
>> of the grips to compensate. I wanted to be more stretched out; I felt 
>> cramped. ...
>>
> Rivendell sells an IRD Wayback seat post. I’m sure I’m committing some 
>> ergonomic sin by adjusting seat post and not stem, but it WORKED.
>>
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[RBW] Large pedals, thumbs up

[Ray Varella]

Over the years I’ve seen numerous comments on how comfortable larger pedals 
are. 
I’ve ridden standard sized pedals my whole life and never gave it much 
though. 
Since I’ve spent more and more time riding in thin soled sandals I noticed 
a bit of discomfort (not pain) after riding for a couple hours. 
I bought a pair of Sylvan Gorditos from Crust and swapped out my standard 
Sylvans. 
After I got home from my first ride with them I realized i hadn’t noticed 
any pressure where I used to. 
Aside from that I didn’t give them a single thought while riding. 

I see more big pedals in my future. 

Ray

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Re: [RBW] 8-speed, 12-34 cassette

[Ray Varella]

I have a couple of those 12-34 8 speed cassettes in use, one with a Suntour 
XC Pro rear mech and one with a first generation Deore XT, both shifted in 
friction,  they both shift so smooth and quietly I find myself looking down 
to see if they changed cogs. 
 For $20 they are a bargain. If the range works for you, I don’t see how 
you can go wrong. 

Hey Garth, you can get an Ultegra 13T to replace the 12, I’ve done that 
too. 
Unfortunately TA discontinued their Podium line of cassettes. 

Rivendell is working on a 7 speed unit that looks promising.  

Ray
On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 3:27:05 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> Sunarace is the only mfr. of the 12-34 8-sp using 12/14/16/18/21/24/28/34 
> cogs. Microshift has a 12-32 but uses a very wonky 12/13/15/18/21/24/28/32. 
> A 15 to 18 jump is too much for my riding preference with 24/36/44 rings. 
> It's like a gear and a half jump where you don't want one. 
>
> What I like about Sunrace CSM double-digit mtb cassettes is that they're 
> held together by a removable torx pin, so if need be I can by another 
> non-exact cassette with the cogs I ride most, the 14/16/18/21/24 and use 
> the previous 28 and 32, or if it the other had a 34 I'd be okay with that.
>
> This gear calculator is very easy to use and customize even if a specific 
> cassette isn't listed. Use you mouse and arrange things as you like.
>
> http://www.gear-calculator.com/
>
> Basically though, cog selection in mfr. cassettes sucks ! I have no use 
> for 11, 12 or even 13 for that matter. I currently have a Sunrace 12-36 
> 9-sp that I don't use either the 12 or 36 cogs, so I basically use it as a 
> narrow spaced 7-speed. The 36 is my "spoke guard" !  I could just as easily 
> get by with 15/17/20/24/28/32 cogs if anyone offered it. Six cog SS/trials 
> cassette hubs are made by Hadley, Hope and Onyx. If I had it my way 
> everyone would choose their cassette cogs that had a mind to, the weight 
> weenies need not apply because they'll put up with anything as long as the 
> digits read like tea leaves. 
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:39:12 AM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> I've been buying the 11-32 Shimano and SRAM.  I think the gearing is 
>> slightly better on the SRAM.  I like an 11.  32 seems to be sufficient.  
>>  Look at the gearing calculators on Sheldon Brown.com
>>
>> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:03:40 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>
>>> There is a 13-34 7 speed cassette from IRD, I have had it on my touring 
>>> bike for the last year.  Steve
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 9:31 AM J Schwartz  wrote:
>>>
 Greetings, 
 Anyone know if there's an available 12-34, 8-speed cassette out there 
 besides the Sunrace?
 Not that I'm opposed to Sunrace.  Just curious if there are other 
 options.  Looks like Shimano/Sram don't have that in their current lineup.
 thank you
 JS

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[RBW] Re: Help me justify a Clem when I have a Platy...?

[Ray Varella]

Sofia,
I bought a Clem frame and have been riding it for a couple months, 
it’s one of the best utility bikes I’ve owned. 
I have 60mm tires on it now and it will easily fit 70s. 

I lucked into being on the waiting list for a Platypus and recently built 
it up. 
It easily fits 55mm tires. 
I’ve grappled with the the same question. 
I thought I would give the Clem to my niece but she doesn’t think a nice 
bike is justifiable.(crazy, right). 

So my Clem will be a more heavy duty utility bike to carry a load and have 
big fat tires and the Platypus will be a more elegant lighter build.  
So if you’re looking for a little nudge from the devil on your 
shoulder….d it

Ray

On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 1:09:20 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Of course! If you'll ride both (yes) and one will be built up for a 
> slightly different mission (probably) then I see no reason why not. In fact 
> I'm currently down to one Riv and it's just not right! 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 12:48:45 PM UTC-7 sof...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> My 50cm olive lime web special Platypus arrived about a week ago and I am 
>> in love. Well, the Riv gods must be smiling upon me because now I have the 
>> chance to buy a blue 45 Clem. Can I justify owning both? Leah, my 
>> #rivsister/#rivmentor, has already kindly weighed in with her thoughts -- 
>> and I would love to hear other opinions as well.
>>
>> -Sofie
>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB Silver shifter mounts

[Ray Varella]

I would have guessed you had tinkered with this configuration Joe. 

Thank you 
Ray

On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 8:51:26 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I tried it, the barrels on the Silvers are bigger than the old downtube 
> levers and scraped on the Paul Thumbies mounts. Plus you would need the 
> adapter Paul used to sell. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 8:39:41 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Hi Joyce,
>> Thank you for the offer. 
>> Your experience has me wondering if the Paul thumbie mounts (did I say 
>> that right?) will work with the Riv shifters?
>> I do have a set of them here. I’m going to explore that and I’ll get back 
>> to you on the VO mounts. 
>>
>> Meanwhile, does anyone know if the Paul’s work with the Riv shifters?
>> Does it warrant a new post?
>>
>> The Platypuses are some of the nicest bikes Rivendell has made. 
>> I really like watching how their bikes evolve over the years…they get 
>> very thoroughly tested during development, I’ll go revisit the posts where 
>> people have shared theirs. 
>>
>> Cheers 
>> Ray
>>
>> On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 9:10:12 AM UTC-7 JAS wrote:
>>
>>> Ray, I recently went through the same problem with my Platypus.  After 
>>> some research, I bought a set of thumbshifter mounts from Velo Orange which 
>>> will work with the silver shifters.  Meanwhile, the silver mounts came 
>>> available and I was lucky to get them!  They went on the bike instead.  I'd 
>>> be happy to sell you the Velo Orange mounts if you decide to go that 
>>> route.  One of them was mounted then removed before the bike was ridden, 
>>> the other never got out of the box. 
>>>
>>> --Joyce
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 5:37:41 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> Does anyone have a pair of the new Rivendell thumbshifter mounts they 
>>>> are willing to part with?
>>>> Rivendell is currently sold out 
>>>> I wouldn’t be opposed to buying them with the shifters as well but I 
>>>> have shifters. 
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Ray
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Will Rivendell shifters work on Paul Thumbie mounts?

[Ray Varella]

Thanks Garth,
I should have looked there first. 

Cheers,
Ray

On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 2:58:05 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> That's a no-go Ray, as Rivendell states on their thumbie product page and 
> as Joe confirmed in your other post. 
> On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 11:50:47 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Has anyone tried mounting their Rivendell shifters to Paul’s thumbie 
>> mounts?
>> If so, did they work well enough?
>>
>> Thank you 
>> Ray
>>
>>

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[RBW] Will Rivendell shifters work on Paul Thumbie mounts?

[Ray Varella]

Has anyone tried mounting their Rivendell shifters to Paul’s thumbie mounts?
If so, did they work well enough?

Thank you 
Ray

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[RBW] Re: WTB Silver shifter mounts

[Ray Varella]

Hi Joyce,
Thank you for the offer. 
Your experience has me wondering if the Paul thumbie mounts (did I say that 
right?) will work with the Riv shifters?
I do have a set of them here. I’m going to explore that and I’ll get back 
to you on the VO mounts. 

Meanwhile, does anyone know if the Paul’s work with the Riv shifters?
Does it warrant a new post?

The Platypuses are some of the nicest bikes Rivendell has made. 
I really like watching how their bikes evolve over the years…they get very 
thoroughly tested during development, I’ll go revisit the posts where 
people have shared theirs. 

Cheers 
Ray

On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 9:10:12 AM UTC-7 JAS wrote:

> Ray, I recently went through the same problem with my Platypus.  After 
> some research, I bought a set of thumbshifter mounts from Velo Orange which 
> will work with the silver shifters.  Meanwhile, the silver mounts came 
> available and I was lucky to get them!  They went on the bike instead.  I'd 
> be happy to sell you the Velo Orange mounts if you decide to go that 
> route.  One of them was mounted then removed before the bike was ridden, 
> the other never got out of the box. 
>
> --Joyce
>
> On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 5:37:41 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> Does anyone have a pair of the new Rivendell thumbshifter mounts they are 
>> willing to part with?
>> Rivendell is currently sold out 
>> I wouldn’t be opposed to buying them with the shifters as well but I have 
>> shifters. 
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Ray
>>
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[RBW] WTB Silver shifter mounts

[Ray Varella]

Hi All,
Does anyone have a pair of the new Rivendell thumbshifter mounts they are 
willing to part with?
Rivendell is currently sold out 
I wouldn’t be opposed to buying them with the shifters as well but I have 
shifters. 

Thank you,
Ray

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Re: [RBW] Re: Any former paper boys (or girls) on this list?

[Ray Varella]

Patrick,
I looked at that front wheel and wondered the same thing, drum or e assist?

I have a huge drum like that if you think you want to put it to use. Mine 
predates ebikes by a number of decades.


Ray

On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 8:54:34 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Or, duh: Electric assist?
>
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 9:54 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Forgot to add: That's a huge drum on the front! Braking must be good ...?
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 9:53 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> Brendon: that's great. Is this in the US, or in another country?
>>>
>>> I have never heard of bicycle postmen (or women) in the US.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 3:52 AM brendonoid  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Never newspapers but my very first job was junk mail (pamphleteer?) 
 delivery round which I did on my Repco (think Crust's Huffy Granite) out 
 of 
 a plastic milk crate strapped to a cheap rack.
 Stuff has happened in between but the last 10 years I have been blessed 
 to be a bicycling Postman. I get to ride all day and get paid for it. I 
 can 
 imagine a worse life.

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[RBW] Re: Looking for a source for these washers

[Ray Varella]

Thanks Garth,
I’m pretty sure you are right about them being proprietary parts made by 
Nitto.
I’m going to play with some nylon spacers from my local hardware store. 
I have the correct hardware for the load bearing struts. Nylon is pretty 
tough. 
Then I’ll look for some aluminum spacers to modify. 

Cheers,
Ray

On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 9:17:30 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> Ray, the closest thing I've found to those Nitto washer would be the 
> Dia-Compe half moon washers. The rear one has the most radius, they specify 
> front or rear.
> https://porkchopbmx.com/search.php?search_query=half+moon+washer
>
> If you need that exact washer you pictured, I think those are Nitto 
> products meant to fit their hardware precisely. 
> On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 11:17:55 AM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Thank you everyone. 
>> Unfortunately, I only need the washer with the radiused groove. 
>>
>> I’ll try and find some spacers I can modify. 
>>
>> Cheers 
>> Ray
>>
>> On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 9:49:21 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-rack-replacement-strut-mounting-stud---bolt---each-bicycle_mounted_rack_part_nitto__870-018/p
>>>
>>> Ben's always has Nitto stuff .  
>>> https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-rack-replacement-strut-mounting-stud---bolt---each-bicycle_mounted_rack_part_nitto__870-018/p
>>>
>>> Alex's and Blue Lug in Japan has them also.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 12:33:10 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ray
>>>>
>>>> Compass has these, dont know if they fit rack struts.  Rene Herse 
>>>> Fender Eyebolts – Rene Herse Cycles 
>>>> <https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/equipment/fenders/rh-eyebolts/>  
>>>> I recall from a JanH post, RH fender stays are 5mm OD.
>>>>
>>>> John Hawrylak
>>>> Woodstown NJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 12:21:05 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here are a few places that sell these
>>>>>
>>>>>- Velo Orange 
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://velo-orange.com/collections/rack-hardware-and-accessories/products/compression-bolt-for-campeur-racks>
>>>>>  -- 
>>>>>Out of stock
>>>>>- Sim Works <https://www.sim.works/products/daruma-bolt> -- Out of 
>>>>>stock
>>>>>- Soma 
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/18441-nitto-rack-l-stay-canti-mount-hardware-only-each-4845?search=nitto+stay>
>>>>>  -- 
>>>>>In stock
>>>>>- Rivendell 
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.rivbike.com/collections/racks/products/nitto-rack-hardware-rack-nut-bolt-each-20184>
>>>>>  
>>>>>-- Out of stock
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 12:13:44 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: 1514BBD7-2E74-469D-B9DF-C1E1B02AF6C5.jpeg]Does anyone know 
>>>>>> of a source for these washers, they come with Nitto rack and strut 
>>>>>> hardware. 
>>>>>> I seem to recall a post either here or on the Bob list about them but 
>>>>>> can’t locate it. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you 
>>>>>> Ray
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Looking for a source for these washers

[Ray Varella]

Thank you everyone. 
Unfortunately, I only need the washer with the radiused groove. 

I’ll try and find some spacers I can modify. 

Cheers 
Ray

On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 9:49:21 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

>
> https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-rack-replacement-strut-mounting-stud---bolt---each-bicycle_mounted_rack_part_nitto__870-018/p
>
> Ben's always has Nitto stuff .  
> https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-rack-replacement-strut-mounting-stud---bolt---each-bicycle_mounted_rack_part_nitto__870-018/p
>
> Alex's and Blue Lug in Japan has them also.
>
> On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 12:33:10 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:
>
>> Ray
>>
>> Compass has these, dont know if they fit rack struts.  Rene Herse Fender 
>> Eyebolts – Rene Herse Cycles 
>> <https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/equipment/fenders/rh-eyebolts/>  I 
>> recall from a JanH post, RH fender stays are 5mm OD.
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 12:21:05 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here are a few places that sell these
>>>
>>>- Velo Orange 
>>>
>>> <https://velo-orange.com/collections/rack-hardware-and-accessories/products/compression-bolt-for-campeur-racks>
>>>  -- 
>>>Out of stock
>>>- Sim Works <https://www.sim.works/products/daruma-bolt> -- Out of 
>>>stock
>>>- Soma 
>>>
>>> <https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/18441-nitto-rack-l-stay-canti-mount-hardware-only-each-4845?search=nitto+stay>
>>>  -- 
>>>In stock
>>>- Rivendell 
>>>
>>> <https://www.rivbike.com/collections/racks/products/nitto-rack-hardware-rack-nut-bolt-each-20184>
>>>  
>>>-- Out of stock
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 12:13:44 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>
>>>> [image: 1514BBD7-2E74-469D-B9DF-C1E1B02AF6C5.jpeg]Does anyone know of 
>>>> a source for these washers, they come with Nitto rack and strut hardware. 
>>>> I seem to recall a post either here or on the Bob list about them but 
>>>> can’t locate it. 
>>>>
>>>> Thank you 
>>>> Ray
>>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: sticky thing for keeping headbadge on bike

[Ray Varella]

Every Schwann head badge I’ve removed or installed used little tapered 
screws , the taper allowed them to get nice and snug in the thick steel 
head tubes. 
I just located a head badge and I’m willing to bet the the screws are 
somewhere in the same drawer of the toolbox where I put them over 35 years 
ago for safe keeping. 

Ray

On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks, Laing. That is what I expected to be the case.
>
> On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 1:38 PM lconley  wrote:
>
>> Varsity headbadges were attached with screws as were other Schwinns, 
>> including the Paramount. I used one of the screw holes to route my internal 
>> light wiring on my Paramount.
>>
>> Laing
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 11:31:42 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I made a head badge, etched with an ungrammatical Latin tag, for my 
>>> second comprehensive bike build/rebuild circa 1972 (complete strip, 
>>> repaint, and rebuild of Alvit Varsity), and am quite clear that I didn't 
>>> drill and tap holes for mounting screws (I was 16 or so and had never heard 
>>> of such a process) and I am even more sure that double sided tape was not 
>>> offered. So even Varsity headbadges must have been mounted with screws? Can 
>>> anyone say?
>>>
>>> Note: The rehabb'd Varsity was a work of teenage art (black gloss, hand 
>>> pinstriped, half-stepped AW with Cyclo Benelux rd and single front ring, 
>>> whitewall tires, shiny silver aluminum fenders) but when I next fingered 
>>> one some 40+ years later I was shocked at what a dog it was. A very well 
>>> made and sturdy dog, but a true dog.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 8:32 AM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
>>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 It was mentioned before, and I'll put my vote in for VHB tape (very 
 high bond). Not a pro, so I can't make a pro tip, but as an enthusiastic 
 amateur, let me recommend that you first stick it to the badge, carefully 
 trim it back from the edge, and stick it, hopefully not upside down, 
 because- very high bond.
 -Kai

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[RBW] Re: What made you a bikey?

[Ray Varella]

There has never been a lag for me, it started on S.O.S Drive in Walnut 
Creek, less than a mile from where Rivendell currently resides
At under 3 years old I would push my tricycle up the hill and put my knee 
on the seat to race down (tricycles are fixed gear)
One day I came racing into the driveway and into the bushes, jamming a 
stick into my eye. 
Mom rushed me to the doctor, mom had one arm and one leg while the nurse 
had the other, the doctor was kneeling on my chest to hold me still while 
they pulled the stick out of my eye…no vision damage but three adults could 
barely wrestle me. 
Fast forward to the day before my 4th birthday, I found a crescent wrench 
and used it to remove the training wheels from my solid rubber wheeled 16 
inch wheeled bike, this was the day I became a mechanic. 
I used to ride this bike down the same hill as the tricycle, I would put my 
feet on the handlebars and ride down the hill. 
I did this often. The day I removed my training wheels I did this same 
routine but the bike went much faster because I wasn’t rocking from side to 
side and scrubbing off speed with the training wheels. 
I got to the bottom of the hill and crashed into the guardrail going over 
it and getting pretty banged up. 
After that it was game on, there has never been a period of my life where 
bicycles didn’t play a large part. 
Bicycles have always been so liberating. 
My mom used to see me miles from home and want to know how I got there. 
I rode the busiest roads, I never thought twice about it. 
I rode cruisers, single speeds, ten speeds, road bikes, you name it. 
I cobbled together out of my stash, I always had spare bikes for friends to 
ride. 
Decades of road bike miles were my best therapy during difficult times, 
turning pedals for hours is how I meditate. 
Bicycles are one of my very favorite inventions. I don’t know how I would 
have spent my time without bicycles. 
When I’m in need of tranquility, a bike ride out into nature provides the 
best medicine. 

Thank you for starting this thread, I owe so much to riding bikes. 

Ray
On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 8:32:14 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Several entries have reminded me that there actually wasn't a huge gulf 
> between my 'kid on a bike' days and 'being a bikey' but in those days I 
> didn't understand there was a thing called cycling, we just rode our bikes. 
>
> Leah's story reminded me of the welder guy on our block, which is where 
> all the parents in the neighborhood bought Sting-Rays for their kids. He 
> had a garage that was open all day and half the night and there were always 
> dozens of bikes and frames in there. I don't know how he got them all - in 
> N. Long Beach, CA. in the late-'60s you probably weren't going to ask the 
> big guy with a welding torch in his hand too many questions - but he would 
> weld the snapped downtubes back together, get some spray paint on there and 
> sell it to your dad. Then - this was the heyday of Evel Knievel jumping 
> buses - we would set up ramps in the alley and break them again! 
>
> Later I had a Sears 10-speed and a succession of Schwinn Varsitys and 
> Continentals. My first job (like most boys then) was delivering newspapers 
> on a Schwinn. Little kids at 4am wobbling down the street with huge heavy 
> bags on the handlebars - crashing regularly, especially with Sunday papers 
> - is unimaginable now, but we did it! 
>
> So that's the kid part of my story. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 3:41:27 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> A friend on PM asked how I got from the "flashy roadies" beginning of 
>> this story to Rivendell so here's that (slightly edited) answer:
>>
>> It was kind of a long gestation that overlapped the Riv world before that 
>> was a thing. The cool road bikes at the time were lugged steel and that 
>> first Bianchi I noticed was definitely friction shift, probably Campy. I 
>> was young and poor so I found older Motobecanes, Centurions and such and 
>> did the drop-bars-and-lycra thing. 
>>
>> In the late '80s I discovered Bridgestone, which as you know was Grant 
>> trying to hold onto sensible lugged steel bikes as the industry was about 
>> to tumble headlong into "rad" aluminum road (not many) and mountain 
>> (everybody had one) bikes. 
>>
>> So I stuck there with my lycra. I had a couple different used Bstones, my 
>> first new-as-an-adult bike was a closeout XO-3 with moustache handlebars, 
>> this was right after Bstone USA closed. At that point I was already signed 
>> up for Grant's Bridgestone Owners Bunch, which morphed into us early 
>> adopters getting the Rivendell Reader. Riv World!
>>
>> Fast forward: Still lycra, drop bars came stock but I probably switched 
>> to moustache at some point, my first Riv was a Romulus I got new from a 
>> dealer in Dublin in 2003. This had a Brooks B17 which was a stunning 
>> revelation for me. Soon I was in Riv shorts and a few years after that I 
>> started with pullback 

[RBW] Re: New Wheels for Clem; need advice

[Ray Varella]

Joyce,
I wouldn’t talk you out of wheels, I think nice hand built wheels with 
carefully chosen parts are a very worthwhile investment that will last for 
many miles. 
I would suggest that while you are wading through a lot of information 
about your “great” wheels, you try some lighter tires. 
There are numerous really great tires out there these days. 
I’m building up a Clem right now and used the majority of parts I already 
owned. Mine feels reasonably unfettered. 
I’ll get some miles on it this week and next. 
I had some Schwalbe G-Ones, the fast, light ones they use for beach racing, 
they are 60mm and it looks like I could fit 70s ( no fenders). 
I also have some of the Rene Herse 55mm knobbies to try. 
I spent my youth squandering my money on nice sew ups and some of today’s 
really fat clinchers are a joy to ride. 
Plus, you’ll have great tires for your new wheels should you choose to get 
them. 

Another humble opinion 
Ray 
On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 7:43:31 PM UTC-7 JAS wrote:

> Thank you all for sharing your thoughtful comments, advice and 
> experiences.  From keeping Clem just the way she is and being happy with 
> the ride to changing out wheels and hubs and/or tires for something better, 
> there's lots to consider.  I appreciate the wisdom of this group and 
> respect your varied opinions.  If anyone has more to add, please feel 
> welcome to do so!
>
> Joyce
>
> On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 12:12:30 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Here's the link at Rivbike for my wheels, I should have included it in my 
>> original post. Says out of stock but it's always good with Rich (@rivbike . 
>> com) to email him and see what he has available to build and what he thinks 
>> will match your needs/wants. The rear hub has a titanium cassette body! I 
>> love that part. 
>>
>> He can also do a set with a dyno front hub if you want. I didn't need it 
>> and preferred the lesser weight, but a lot of folks swear by them and 
>> they're very useful. 
>>
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/velocity-atlas-white-industries-mi5-webspecial-wheelset-bto
>> On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 10:24:46 AM UTC-7 JAS wrote:
>>
>>> After reading Leah's comments about upgrading her Clem with lighter 
>>> wheels and other parts,  I'd like to do the same for my dark green Clem.  I 
>>> use it for rural road riding when I'm not on my Platy, gravel trails, and 
>>> hauling groceries.  It's got a rear rack and will have SKS fenders when I 
>>> get around to installing them. I will also replace the original Bosco with 
>>> the aluminum version.  
>>>
>>> I changed the tires from those horrible original Kendas to Big Bens and 
>>> removed the front rack and basket which did wonders for handling.  Since I 
>>> got it from Craigslist a few years ago I don't know much about the original 
>>> wheels.  They have multi-colored spoke nipples and no identifying labels. 
>>> The original owner bought it from a bike shop in Madison, WI.
>>>
>>> Any advice is welcome on what wheels to get or other upgrades I could 
>>> make.  I don't want to go tubeless. Clem is 52cm with 650b wheels.   Thanks!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Question on yesterday’s blugh

[Ray Varella]

I think there are a number of useful possibilities as a 2x and it has me 
looking at some chainrings I already have but would not otherwise use. 


Ray

On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 6:11:14 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote:

> When you think about a 2x, something like a 34-46 double with that 13-42 
> cassette has a pretty decent range & the front should shift just fine.  
> H.
>
> dougP
>
> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 5:36:32 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Thank you Garth,
>> So if my rear derailer wraps 40 teeth, I could run this cassette and a 10 
>> (maybe12) tooth difference in my front chainrings. 
>>
>> I’ll definitely stay tuned for its appearance. 
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 1:54:50 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> Ray, What isn't included in the story is the use of a rear derailleur 
>>> hanger extender. It's been mentioned in bits and pieces within their 
>>> various media. There's many brands but what they all do is essentially 
>>> lower the rear derailleur hanger which allows the RD to clear much larger 
>>> cogs than otherwise, and without maxing out the B screw.. Note though that 
>>> while it allows for cog clearance, it doesn't change the total teeth 
>>> capacity of the given RD. Most of the mfr's of the extenders say it's for 
>>> 10sp. 1x setups, but it will lwork for 2x 9sp or less as long as you work 
>>> with the given capacity of the RD.  Riv appears to offer the Sunrace 
>>> version, but it uses an aluminum bolt. I'd prefer the stainless steel bolt 
>>> the Wolf Roadlink and Wheels Mfr. offer. Here's just one type  
>>> https://wheelsmfg.com/extended-hanger.html  
>>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 11:56:38 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don’t have anything that will work with a 42 tooth rear but a 2x 
>>>> configuration definitely has my attention. 
>>>>
>>>> Ray
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 5:34:33 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Blahg is back up. Casette uses 7-speed spacing (Grant's words) 
>>>>> which should (my words) nominally index with a Shimano 8 shifter and 
>>>>> normal 
>>>>> matching derailer. But I don't know if the teeth will be indexy twisty, I 
>>>>> don't presume Riv is pushing hard to make this thing work with anything 
>>>>> other than friction shifters. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe "wildly guessing" Bernard
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 3:17:20 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's intended to work with the new RapidRise (low-normal) derailer 
>>>>>> Grant is working on. But if we have something in a drawer that'll work 
>>>>>> with 
>>>>>> the 42t cog I say give it a whirl! 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 2:54:02 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Joe,
>>>>>>> ….so which derailer will we use with these? I say “we” because you 
>>>>>>> may be just as likely to run one as I will. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers 
>>>>>>> Ray
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 11:41:16 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 13-42 which will mount on a 8/9/10 hub with a spacer Riv will 
>>>>>>>> provide (you would use it with the included spacer most 11-speed hubs 
>>>>>>>> offer, too). Intended for friction shifting and will use Riv's own 
>>>>>>>> 7-speed 
>>>>>>>> chain but an 8 (and probably 9) will work, too. No idexing 
>>>>>>>> compatibility 
>>>>>>>> was mentioned but I would imagine/hope this would work with Shimano 
>>>>>>>> 8-speed 
>>>>>>>> shifters with one click locked out. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The post will probably be back, it was short and sometimes Grant 
>>>>>>>> pulls them back for edits. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joe Bernard
>>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 9:13:48 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> In Will’s email yesterday there was a link to a new blugh but 
>>>>>>>>> there is nothing there. 
>>>>>>>>> I had a question about the 7 speed cassette that was alluded to, 
>>>>>>>>> did anyone read about it?
>>>>>>>>> It looks like a great option,
>>>>>>>>> Can anyone offer a brief synopsis. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you 
>>>>>>>>> Ray
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Question on yesterday’s blugh

[Ray Varella]

Thank you Garth,
So if my rear derailer wraps 40 teeth, I could run this cassette and a 10 
(maybe12) tooth difference in my front chainrings. 

I’ll definitely stay tuned for its appearance. 

Ray

On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 1:54:50 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> Ray, What isn't included in the story is the use of a rear derailleur 
> hanger extender. It's been mentioned in bits and pieces within their 
> various media. There's many brands but what they all do is essentially 
> lower the rear derailleur hanger which allows the RD to clear much larger 
> cogs than otherwise, and without maxing out the B screw.. Note though that 
> while it allows for cog clearance, it doesn't change the total teeth 
> capacity of the given RD. Most of the mfr's of the extenders say it's for 
> 10sp. 1x setups, but it will lwork for 2x 9sp or less as long as you work 
> with the given capacity of the RD.  Riv appears to offer the Sunrace 
> version, but it uses an aluminum bolt. I'd prefer the stainless steel bolt 
> the Wolf Roadlink and Wheels Mfr. offer. Here's just one type  
> https://wheelsmfg.com/extended-hanger.html  
> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 11:56:38 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> I don’t have anything that will work with a 42 tooth rear but a 2x 
>> configuration definitely has my attention. 
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 5:34:33 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> The Blahg is back up. Casette uses 7-speed spacing (Grant's words) which 
>>> should (my words) nominally index with a Shimano 8 shifter and normal 
>>> matching derailer. But I don't know if the teeth will be indexy twisty, I 
>>> don't presume Riv is pushing hard to make this thing work with anything 
>>> other than friction shifters. 
>>>
>>> Joe "wildly guessing" Bernard
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 3:17:20 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's intended to work with the new RapidRise (low-normal) derailer 
>>>> Grant is working on. But if we have something in a drawer that'll work 
>>>> with 
>>>> the 42t cog I say give it a whirl! 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 2:54:02 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Joe,
>>>>> ….so which derailer will we use with these? I say “we” because you may 
>>>>> be just as likely to run one as I will. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers 
>>>>> Ray
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 11:41:16 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 13-42 which will mount on a 8/9/10 hub with a spacer Riv will provide 
>>>>>> (you would use it with the included spacer most 11-speed hubs offer, 
>>>>>> too). 
>>>>>> Intended for friction shifting and will use Riv's own 7-speed chain but 
>>>>>> an 
>>>>>> 8 (and probably 9) will work, too. No idexing compatibility was 
>>>>>> mentioned 
>>>>>> but I would imagine/hope this would work with Shimano 8-speed shifters 
>>>>>> with 
>>>>>> one click locked out. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The post will probably be back, it was short and sometimes Grant 
>>>>>> pulls them back for edits. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe Bernard
>>>>>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 9:13:48 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> In Will’s email yesterday there was a link to a new blugh but there 
>>>>>>> is nothing there. 
>>>>>>> I had a question about the 7 speed cassette that was alluded to, did 
>>>>>>> anyone read about it?
>>>>>>> It looks like a great option,
>>>>>>> Can anyone offer a brief synopsis. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you 
>>>>>>> Ray
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Question on yesterday’s blugh

[Ray Varella]

I don’t have anything that will work with a 42 tooth rear but a 2x 
configuration definitely has my attention. 

Ray

On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 5:34:33 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> The Blahg is back up. Casette uses 7-speed spacing (Grant's words) which 
> should (my words) nominally index with a Shimano 8 shifter and normal 
> matching derailer. But I don't know if the teeth will be indexy twisty, I 
> don't presume Riv is pushing hard to make this thing work with anything 
> other than friction shifters. 
>
> Joe "wildly guessing" Bernard
>
> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 3:17:20 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> It's intended to work with the new RapidRise (low-normal) derailer Grant 
>> is working on. But if we have something in a drawer that'll work with the 
>> 42t cog I say give it a whirl! 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 2:54:02 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Joe,
>>> ….so which derailer will we use with these? I say “we” because you may 
>>> be just as likely to run one as I will. 
>>>
>>> Cheers 
>>> Ray
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 11:41:16 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> 13-42 which will mount on a 8/9/10 hub with a spacer Riv will provide 
>>>> (you would use it with the included spacer most 11-speed hubs offer, too). 
>>>> Intended for friction shifting and will use Riv's own 7-speed chain but an 
>>>> 8 (and probably 9) will work, too. No idexing compatibility was mentioned 
>>>> but I would imagine/hope this would work with Shimano 8-speed shifters 
>>>> with 
>>>> one click locked out. 
>>>>
>>>> The post will probably be back, it was short and sometimes Grant pulls 
>>>> them back for edits. 
>>>>
>>>> Joe Bernard
>>>> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 9:13:48 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>> In Will’s email yesterday there was a link to a new blugh but there is 
>>>>> nothing there. 
>>>>> I had a question about the 7 speed cassette that was alluded to, did 
>>>>> anyone read about it?
>>>>> It looks like a great option,
>>>>> Can anyone offer a brief synopsis. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you 
>>>>> Ray
>>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Question on yesterday’s blugh

[Ray Varella]

Thanks Joe,
….so which derailer will we use with these? I say “we” because you may be 
just as likely to run one as I will. 

Cheers 
Ray

On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 11:41:16 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> 13-42 which will mount on a 8/9/10 hub with a spacer Riv will provide (you 
> would use it with the included spacer most 11-speed hubs offer, too). 
> Intended for friction shifting and will use Riv's own 7-speed chain but an 
> 8 (and probably 9) will work, too. No idexing compatibility was mentioned 
> but I would imagine/hope this would work with Shimano 8-speed shifters with 
> one click locked out. 
>
> The post will probably be back, it was short and sometimes Grant pulls 
> them back for edits. 
>
> Joe Bernard
> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 9:13:48 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>>  
>> In Will’s email yesterday there was a link to a new blugh but there is 
>> nothing there. 
>> I had a question about the 7 speed cassette that was alluded to, did 
>> anyone read about it?
>> It looks like a great option,
>> Can anyone offer a brief synopsis. 
>>
>> Thank you 
>> Ray
>>
>

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[RBW] Question on yesterday’s blugh

[Ray Varella]

 
In Will’s email yesterday there was a link to a new blugh but there is 
nothing there. 
I had a question about the 7 speed cassette that was alluded to, did anyone 
read about it?
It looks like a great option,
Can anyone offer a brief synopsis. 

Thank you 
Ray

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Re: [RBW] V-brakes needed or a recommendation

[Ray Varella]

Thank you all,
I ended up with the Deore Vs over the Alivo for one reason and one reason 
only, they have cartridge brake shoes so being able to upgrade shoes 
without needing to fiddle with any adjustments made it an easy choice. 
If they hadn’t been available I would have gone with the Alivos and 
purchased some cartridge holders with pads. 

Cheers 
Ray

On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 6:24:34 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:

> RBW recommended M730 for the Appaloosa they recently built for me. I have 
> a 55 mm slick tires with SKS B65 fenders and the brakes clear fine in both 
> front and back. They are also priced pretty well at ~$25 per wheel (RBW 
> doesn't sell them as separate parts but you can easily find them on other 
> online retailers). 
>
> While selecting the parts, I remember Will mentioning something along the 
> lines of pad replacement being easier on these Tektro vs. Alivio brakes. 
>
> On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 10:33:10 AM UTC-7 mathie...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Good morning Ray, 
>>
>> Having spoken with The Team as my Platypus build comes together (with 
>> 700c x 47 tires and fenders) my understanding is that clearance is the main 
>> consideration. I personally went with Deore V brakes, based on their 
>> recommendation (which cost a little bit more but not much) (and I know 
>> Deore brakes are not available a-la carte on the site ))
>>
>> I imagine that Alvio's should work just fine - especially at the price 
>> point. It might not hurt to give the office a call tomorrow morning, if 
>> clearance is a concern. 
>>
>> Happy to hear from someone with additional experience.
>>
>> MATHIEU BROWN
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 11:24 AM Ray Varella  wrote:
>>
>>> I’m in need of a set (bike’s worth) of V-brakes. 
>>> I see Rivendell has Alivo level brakes for $20 per wheel
>>> Is there a compelling reason not to use them?
>>>
>>> If so, any recommendation on a budget level brake that works well?
>>>
>>> Thank you 
>>> Ray
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 2001 Riv Custom $2100

[Ray Varella]

I have a similar affinity towards my 6” steel rule. It’s metric on one side 
and imperial on the other. 
It is my most reached for tool by a long shot. Since I don’t own a vernier 
caliper I poor boy it by using an adjustable wrench to get the diameter of 
a tube or rod and then measure the opening with my ruler. 
If I were a machinist I would want something with more critical tolerances 
but this method has served me well in countless situations.   

I had a talk with my niece a few weeks ago and explained to her the 
importance of knowing how to repair things and that for most of my life I 
have purchased a tool for a job that needed it and over the decades have 
acquired tools to keep vehicles and appliances on the road and perform home 
repairs. 
Living a short bike ride from a good hardware store is just as important as 
being able to repair things. 

Question for Bill and others, what are you measuring that makes your 
calipers indispensable….and why the cheap tool?

Ray

On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 3:35:05 PM UTC-7 Robert Tilley wrote:

> I agree. I bought some calipers years ago and I grab them way more often 
> than I expected to. A very useful tool to have.
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 18, 2021, at 7:09 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
> Anybody who cares about bikes enough to work on them should have an 
> inexpensive vernier caliper.  They are <$10 at any hardware store.  Anybody 
> who cares enough about working on stuff around the house should have an 
> inexpensive vernier caliper.  Anybody who cares about the objective 
> diameter of cylindrical objects should have one.  My workbench tends 
> towards chaotic, so I bought two of the identical cheapo model.  They both 
> live on the same hook on my toolboard, so if I set one down without putting 
> it away, I still can get the other one to do the measurement I need.  There 
> are only a few tools that are important enough to double up on my 
> toolboard, and that's one of them.  
>
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 6:07:25 AM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the insight Bill! I don't own a caliper so until I make my way 
>> to the LBS, we won't be sure...
>>
>> Dave, the standover height is approx. 34"
>>
>> Max
>> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 5:28:13 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> That may also explain the fillet brazed bottom bracket on the Frank 
>>> Jones Sr.
>>>
>>> The Hubbuhubbuhs also used tubes that change section from round to oval, 
>>> as did the Rosco Babys.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 5:04:47 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Max asked something about bulged tube ends on historical Rivendells.  
 I'm not sure about the precise question.  What I do know is that Grant 
 told 
 me that they have employed a number of 'baseball bat' frame tubes on 
 various things.  Seat tube that bulge from 28.6 up to 31.8 at the BB is 
 one 
 example.  The reason I brought it up with Grant was when they offered the 
 Frank Jones Senor with a 28.6mm downtube.  That was the only Rivendell I 
 had ever heard of with a non-OS Downtube, and I knew Rivendell has their 
 own lugs cast, so it was kind of shocking to me that Rivendell would go 
 out 
 of their way to offer a bike with a standard diameter downtube, when 
 they'd 
 been defending 31.8 against the planing zealots for years.  Grant 
 explained 
 to me that the lower head lug they were using in the Frank Jones Senor was 
 from a pile of lower headlugs that they would use on SMALL customs.  They 
 would use a baseball bat tube shaped downtube that was 28.6 up at the 
 headlug and 31.8 down at the BB.  

 So, there is a history of Rivendell using tubes that are different 
 sizes on either end.  That doesn't guarantee anything about yours.  Take 
 your vernier caliper to the tube in question and check, I guess. 

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA



 On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 1:13:13 PM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:

> I got an interesting note from a fellow member: 
>
> "The photo looks like the junction of the head tube and down tube. 
> You can check with Rivendell - it looks like the tube was bulged to 
> fit the lug. On a tall frame like that they might have had to get 
> creative 
> with lugs and tubes."
>
> Does anyone know if Riv did something like that back then to fit the 
> lugs with large-ish / weird geometries?
>
> Thanks,
> Max
> On Saturday, August 14, 2021 at 5:57:29 PM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Per my other thread, I've decided to downsize from 4 to 2 (or maybe 
>> 1) bikes so here it goes. I hope I don't regret letting this one go, but 
>> I 
>> have to start somewhere and this one isn't getting the miles it deserves.
>>
>> Price is $2,100 + packing & shipping 

[RBW] V-brakes needed or a recommendation

[Ray Varella]

I’m in need of a set (bike’s worth) of V-brakes. 
I see Rivendell has Alivo level brakes for $20 per wheel
Is there a compelling reason not to use them?

If so, any recommendation on a budget level brake that works well?

Thank you 
Ray

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[RBW] Re: WTT: Wheels and parts and things for White Ind. DOS ENO(s)

[Ray Varella]

Hey Peter, 
  out of curiosity, does your Phil hub have removable end caps?
I suspect you already checked. 

Ray
On Saturday, August 14, 2021 at 10:40:35 AM UTC-7 divis...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> I find the Brevets appetizing (how many holes?), but first: Are you sure 
> you want to mount a BMX freewheel on a Phil hub? Have you ever tried it?
>
> For many years now, I have had a 700c wheel I bought off eBay: Phil Wood 
> freewheel hub, MA2 rim, WI ENO 18T freewheel. I got it cheap, because the 
> seller couldn't get the freewheel off; I just assumed I could take it off 
> with a normal BMX FW remover, sell the very excellent FW on to someone who 
> needed it, and hey! Free 120mm Phil/Mavic wheel.
>
> HA-ha!
>
> Turns out, you can't get any normal BMX remover over the 19mm Phil Wood 
> axle - the center holes in the removers are sized for 10mm QR/solid axles. 
> I own both the Park BMX removers (FR-6 and FR-8), neither makes it over the 
> axle, as the holes are about 12mm. I took it to a branch of a local LBS 
> chain (Hank & Frank), whose Oakland store is BMX-heavy; they didn't have 
> anything that would work.  I suppose it would be feasible to drill out the 
> center hole in a Park remover, but FW removers are pretty tough steel. I 
> figured that the seller had either bought the wheel with my same reasoning 
> and ran into the same obstacle, or had threaded the ENO on himself, been 
> shocked to discover that he couldn't get it off, and didn't cop to it.
>
> I suspect I could have dismantled the freewheel, or tried to remove it by 
> brute force. I didn't want to damage the hub, but I also didn't want to 
> damage the excellent freewheel - even if I didn't want it, somebody else 
> could use it. I finally ended up emailing Phil Wood Support, asking for any 
> suggestions. They said I should ship or bring the wheel to them, and they'd 
> get the freewheel off intact without destroying the hub. I don't know their 
> method; maybe they remove the DS axle end, or perhaps the remove the entire 
> axle from the non-drive side. Maybe since they're a machine shop, they've 
> fabricated a FW remover to deal with this problem, for the rare occasions 
> when they need it. I'm about 50 miles from PW in San Jose CA, and I have a 
> collection of projects for them; one of these years I'll get my act 
> together and take everything down at once. Meanwhile, I've been looking at 
> a very nice useless-to-me wheel for about eight years.
>
> I have a vague memory of having seen listings for Phil Wood hubs 
> specifically for BMX; if that memory is accurate, I suspect those hubs have 
> narrower diameter axle ends to address this problem. PW doesn't sell BMX 
> hubs now, and there's no BMX-specific information on their site. If you 
> have such hubs, or if you realize the risk but you're committed to going 
> this way, then I hope you'll forgive my lecture.
>
> Peter "forewarned is forearmed" Adler
> Berkeley, CA/USA
> On Saturday, August 14, 2021 at 6:22:12 AM UTC-7 Robert Dowtin wrote:
>
>> Hey there everyone. I am looking for a 16/18 DOS Eno and a 20/22 DOS Eno 
>> for the Phil Wood wheels I just built for my Quickbeam. I'd be happy to buy 
>> them from someone but I would prefer to maybe trade some parts. I have the 
>> following wheels available all spokes are 2.0/1.8 double buttered either DT 
>> or Sapim unless otherwise noted.
>>
>> Set of OG Quickbeam wheels with 16 cog freewheel (no clue what spokes 
>> were used but now I'm curious and will be looking into it...)
>>
>> (2) Pacenti Brevet 650b rims have been used but I believe on a fixed only 
>> never having the brake track ground upon (rims only)
>>
>> 1 Pacenti Brevet 650b complete front wheel 100qr(with set of NiftySwifty 
>> tires, maybe?)
>>
>> 1 Shimano Gen hub Velocity rim 700c 100qr rim brake
>>
>> Set of Novatec six bolt hubs 100/135qr
>>
>> 700c 100/135qr XT Deore hubs, WTB st21 rims, six bolt disc, shimano 
>> 9/10/11 freehub (set)
>>
>> 650b Hed Belgium tied to SON gen six bolt disc 100qr
>> 650b Hed Belgium tied to rear Hope4 six bolt disc shiman 9/10/11 freehub 
>> 135qr 
>>
>> So yeah, anything is up for trade or purchase and I am mainly in need of 
>> DOS Eno freewheels. Please direct questions to direct messages. Thanks 
>> everyone!
>>
>> Rob in NW Ar
>>
>>

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[RBW] For sale Mavic Module 3 700c

[Ray Varella]

New old stock, 36 hole Mavic Module 3 rims
Box section double eyelet (full ferrules)
$160 for the pair plus actual shipping. 
You can pick up in Vallejo or Oakland

Contact off list rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 

Thank you 
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[RBW] Re: For sale, portable bike stands/racks

[Ray Varella]

These have sold
Thank you 
Ray

On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 12:27:58 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:

> Hi All,
> I have 4 bike stands, these are the type that have 4 small wheels and two 
> hoops that hold a wheel. 
> I would prefer to have someone pick them up here in Vallejo CA
> $5 ea. 
> If I did ship them, they would need to be disassembled and boxed up. 
> $25 for all 4 plus actual shipping costs but I would really prefer a local 
> pick up 
> Email off list. rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 
> Thank you
>
> Ray
>

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[RBW] For sale, portable bike stands/racks

[Ray Varella]

Hi All,
I have 4 bike stands, these are the type that have 4 small wheels and two 
hoops that hold a wheel. 
I would prefer to have someone pick them up here in Vallejo CA
$5 ea. 
If I did ship them, they would need to be disassembled and boxed up. 
$25 for all 4 plus actual shipping costs but I would really prefer a local 
pick up 
Email off list. rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 
Thank you

Ray

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[RBW] WTB Small Gus or Platypus

[Ray Varella]

Long shot here for sure but did anyone buy a small Gus or Platypus that 
isn’t working out for them?
If so, you can reach me off list a rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 

Thank you 
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