[RBW] Re: FS: Rich build 559/26 inch wheel

[RonLau]

It is Velocity Synergy, 23mm wide outside to outside.


On Monday, June 17, 2013 5:47:01 AM UTC-7, colinthehippie wrote:
>
> What's the rim width?
>
> On Sunday, June 16, 2013 8:06:30 PM UTC-5, RonLau wrote:
>>
>> To all,
>>
>> Hello, moved recently and have this hanging around for far too long. 
>>  Hope it works for one of you.
>>
>> I am selling the following wheel.
>>
>> 26 inches/559, with older 9s XT hub (steel axle), 32 spokes, brass 
>> nipples with Synergy rim.
>>
>> Rich build this a few years ago for my wife bike but now I gave her my WI 
>> wheels to use.
>>
>> $120 shipped to lower 48 states.  $100 local pick up.
>>
>> If you are using 8s cassette, I can include a good lightly used one.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ron
>>
>

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[RBW] FS: Rich build 559/26 inch wheel

[RonLau]

To all,

Hello, moved recently and have this hanging around for far too long.  Hope 
it works for one of you.

I am selling the following wheel.

26 inches/559, with older 9s XT hub (steel axle), 32 spokes, brass nipples 
with Synergy rim.

Rich build this a few years ago for my wife bike but now I gave her my WI 
wheels to use.

$120 shipped to lower 48 states.  $100 local pick up.

If you are using 8s cassette, I can include a good lightly used one.

Thanks,
Ron

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[RBW] FS: Dura Ace 7800 wheels with Synergy Rim, build by Rich at Rivendell $300 shipped

[RonLau]

To all,

Time to let this go, have this for 3 months and just don't need it.  It was 
on my wife's bike but she likes what she has now (who am I to argue)

So here it is.

Dura Ace 7800 Front, 32 spokes, Synergy 700c 
Dura Ace 7850 Rear, 32 spokes, Synergy Asym. 700c.

Build by Rich at Rivendell. Mounted once but zero miles, smooth as butter. 
Comes with DA skewers.
7850 hub allows you to use 8,9,10 speed cassette.

Let me know if you want pictures.

Thanks,
Ron


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[RBW] FS: Acorn Medium Large Saddle bag

[RonLau]

To all,

I am going to sell my little use (~20 miles) Acorn Medium Large Saddle bag. 

PIcture on a bike (this is NOT my bike nor my bag) just to show you what it 
looks like on a bike.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/redding_dave/3123290169/

The actual bag itself.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/19694929@N00/

$80 shipped to lower 48 states.

If you ride a small frame and saddle height around 67cm, this may be too 
big for you without a fender to support it.
This is the reason why I am selling it, nice size but too big for my setup.

Thanks,
Ron

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Re: [RBW] frame swap? (My LongLow custom for your Atlantis)

[RonLau]

Very nice, ride it till it needs a new paint job, than ride some more.

On Saturday, June 23, 2012 9:45:06 AM UTC-7, Beth H wrote:
>
> Ron -- almost daily (except when I have to haul my guitar and amp -- that 
> I do on the Big Dummy).
>
> On Friday, June 22, 2012 9:44:37 PM UTC-7, RonLau wrote:
>>
>> Beth, still riding that green machine?
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] frame swap? (My LongLow custom for your Atlantis)

[RonLau]

Beth, still riding that green machine?

On Friday, June 22, 2012 11:58:30 AM UTC-7, Beth H wrote:
>
> On Friday, June 22, 2012 9:39:56 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Beth: I thought you loved the LongLow. What changed?
>> And, second, what about 700c wheels now disappoints you?
>>
>
> Two things that have developed over the last five years:
>
> 1. I find that bikes spec'd around 700c wheels in my appropriate 
> height-size are now uncomfortably long for my shortening reach -- and I was 
> already pretty darned short-wasted to begin with. Aging has slowly 
> decreased my reach further, to the point where drops are uncomfortable and 
> uprights on a short-top tube model are not working (combination of 
> handlebar, stem length and frame geometry make for a bike that does not 
> handle optimally).
>
> 2. My LongLow was made in 1999, befre any of us knew just how alrge a tire 
> we'd eventually like to run. This frame can handle 32mm tires with fenders 
> only BARELY, and then only with the right tire and fender combo.
>
> 3. The older I get, the happier I find I am on bigger tires. Older-school 
> mountain bike geometry is giving me a new lease on bicycling with a better 
> upright position (stem/bar/frame geometry combo) and plenty of room for big 
> tires and full fenders.  Plus, I LIKE the feel of the ride on 26" (559) 
> wheels and I love the feeling that I can ride anywhere on them.
>
> So, as my bicycling life evolves and my atorage options aren't increasing, 
> it makes sense for me to transition to bikes I will actually ride, and will 
> enjoy riding as I age. I am ready to look at a frame swap if someone out 
> there has an Atlantis they'd like to trade for my LongLow frame. 
>
> Thanks to everyone who has emailed back and forth with me trying to 
> convince me to keep the LongLow. I live in a tiny place with very limited 
> storage space, so it doesn't make sense to keep and store bikes I ride less 
> and less over time. Periodic culling and adjusting of the bike herd isn't a 
> bad thing. Cheers and happy riding --Beth
>

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[RBW] Re: Honjos

[RonLau]

To add to Jan's comment.  Now I don't put fenders on bike if it is not 
design for metal fenders (bridge placement, braze on...) I don't like the 
voodoo I had to do when I change a flat and when I clean my bike.

For me, a bike design for metal fenders, you should be able to remove them 
in 5 minutes and re-install in 10 minutes. Metal fenders is not rare 
anymore and we should demand more from builders to do the job correctly the 
first time.  Unless they promise to do the fenders voodoo for you when you 
have a flat, 1am, cold with a strong wind, and yes, you only have one 
borrow tube left.



On Friday, June 15, 2012 3:15:34 PM UTC-7, Jan Heine wrote:
>
>
>
> On Friday, June 15, 2012 9:01:00 AM UTC-7, William wrote:
>>
>> I took the slow and patient route and would advise the same to others.  
>> It's one of those things that I can imagine one could do with far less 
>> wasted motion with repetition.  I envision experts like JPWeigle doing an 
>> install in the middle of a conversation about the 1975 RedSox, while the 
>> awestruck observer just stares in appreciation "this is worth the price of 
>> admission"
>>
>> Peter Weigle has an easy job of it. His bikes are designed for fenders, 
> so they drop right in. Not only are the bridges equidistant, he also has 
> threaded holes where the fenders go. He drills a few holes, maybe 
> manipulates the diameter a bit, and off he goes. Even so, it takes some 
> time.
>
> Having installed fenders on bikes that "had adequate clearances" and on 
> bikes that actually were designed with fenders in mind, there is a huge 
> difference. I was surprised how simple it was to install fenders in my new 
> René Herse. The only tough job was indenting the fenders so they fit beween 
> the chainstays. (The Grand Bois fenders are exactly the right diameter for 
> Grand Bois Hetre tires, so no massaging needed to get them to fit just 
> right.)
>
> By the way, the fender should be under no tension from the stays. 
> Basically, when you loosen the stays, the fender should not move. 
> Otherwise, your fender will break prematurely from the inbuilt stresses. 
> Well-mounted aluminum fenders should last at least 30 years and 100,000 
> miles in normal use, unlike plastic fenders, which cannot be mounted 
> without inbuilt stresses, and thus will break after a couple of years.
>

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[RBW] Rivendell Roadeo 59cm on ebay, not mine.

[RonLau]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Roadeo-Bike-Frame-59cm-New-/150787007075?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item231b9b2263


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Re: [RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

[RonLau]

Steve is correct, those Racing T FD are super at 48-38-28 DT or Barend 
shifting for me as well.


I bought a Campy FD from Rivendell before, it works very well and looks 
like my Racing T.

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/d10.htm

I will double check it tomorrow and make sure they are the same shape.

On Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:39:11 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 10:01 -0700, Mojo wrote:
> >   Campy will always have that glorious history, and still has prestige
> > for some reason. And Campy certainly has some impressive prices! oh
> > and the 11 cogs!  I will say their brifters are nice and the Athena 11
> > speed brifter will shift a 9 speed Shimano drivetrain nicely.   But in
> > my mind's eye putting Campy parts on an Atlantis is like putting a
> > designer spoiler on a Jeep. Not that there is anything wrong with
> > that!
>
> You can keep your brifters and your eleven speeds, but trust me, the
> Campagnolo Racing T is the best front derailleur ever made for typical
> Riv-style compact triple wide range drive trains, the sort of thing you
> would expect to find on an Atlantis.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis

[RonLau]

Jim,

This is the reason why Campy 10s Ergo with Shimano 8 issue.

10s Campy pulls are 2.5mm five times, 3mm twice and 3.5mm twice. 

IMO, one is better off using Ergo 9s with Shiftmate for Shimano 9.

I am a Campy Ergo user, they are nice, easy to work with for me.  Just 
replace the g & e springs on a set of 10 years old shifter, good as new now 
in terms of shifting.  Their chain are pain but I use KMC and it works just 
fine.  If you use Veloce cassette, they are steel cog, they last a good 
long time, and you can swap out one at the time, namely 16-17-18-29 
usually.  My cassette of choice still 13-26 and 13-29 for long climbs.

I have another friend Chorus group works well without issue after 10 years, 
just replace the springs and keep an eye on the chain wear.  

You do want to use all 10s parts, mix and match doesn't make happy marriage 
with Campy. 

Just my 2c.

Ron

On Saturday, March 24, 2012 5:34:29 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:
>
> We did a 10-->8 "Shimergo" conversion recently. If we set it up to shift 
> in the middle of the cassette, indexing was suboptimal at the top and 
> bottom of the range. The customer brought it back to us several times for 
> fine-tuning before giving up on the idea. Maybe I missed some subtle nuance 
> to making it work flawlessly, but in my experience it only kinda works. 
> Probably voids any warranty.

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[RBW] Re: Longshot - WTB 32 Hole Campagnolo compatible rear cassette hub

[RonLau]

Sean,

I would suggest WI or if you can deal with Black hub, DT 350.  Those Campy 
hubs are nice and their street price is usually more than WI hub new.  They 
are very easy to adjust and service.

Ron



On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:54:38 AM UTC-7, Sean Whelan wrote:
>
> Looking for silver, 32 Hole rear cassette hub. 9 / 10 speed compatible.
>
> Campagnolo, White Industries, Phil wood, etc.
>
>
> Please reply off-list.
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rando Advice

[RonLau]

Since we are talking Populaire, I would like to point out San
Francisco Randonneurs is hosting a 115K on March 31, Saturday.

http://sfrandonneurs.org/registration.htm#

Cost is $5 and you get food at the end.

Below is the link from last October.  You will see the distance and
climbs.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/118395913

Has been turning into a social event for some of us and hope you can
join us.
Most of SF local will go and it is a good time to learn about distance
riding.

Thanks,
Ron

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[RBW] Re: Rando Advice

[RonLau]

Come and think of it, it is a good idea to bring a small plastic bag
for your card (SFR card is 4 x 5.5 inches)because no one like a wet
card that has been sitting in your back for a few hours.

On Mar 6, 4:31 pm, NickBull  wrote:
> I'm pretty sure that all RUSA-sanctioned populaires are required to use
> cards.  Part of the point of populaires is to get new riders used to the
> complexities of randonneuring, one aspect of which is carrying a card.
>
> RUSA's web page has a glossary that says:
>
> *populaire*   (pope u lair) - A shorter "randonneuring" event usually run
> under the regulations and pace of a standard *brevet*, but being less than
> 200 kilometers in length, they lack the official sanction of the Audax Club
> Parisien. *Populaires* are often 100 or 150 kilometers in length and
> frequently used by experienced *randonneurs* for training and/or
> socializing, as well as introducing new riders to the ways of
> "randonneuring".
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 6, 2012 6:10:04 PM UTC-5, rcnute wrote:
>
> > Are there populaires where cards are used?  I haven't seen them on the
> > SIR ones.
>
> > Smitty, you'll be fine.  Don't overcook it too early, don't be a hero
> > on the climbs, eat a bit of something every 25 miles and you're all
> > set.
>
> > Ryan
>
> > On Mar 6, 1:04 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2012-03-06 at 12:21 -0800, Smitty-A-Go-Go wrote:
> > > > This is all very comforting. Not that I was anxiety stricken but I was
> > > > definitley feeling a little cautious stepping into a new world. The
> > > > distance isn't intimidating but the timed aspect has me a little
> > > > concerned. Will ride the bike I have and report back with pics how it
> > > > goes.
>
> > > The time aspect does add a bit of pressure, but you really don't have to
> > > maintain a very fast overall average (just under 10 mph).  And you
> > > absolutely positively do have to remember to get your control card
> > > signed at the controls, and at the end you have to sign the card.  Don't
> > > lose the card!
>
> > > You need to keep in mind the things you need to accomplish at the
> > > controls.  Take care of those things in an efficient manner and you
> > > won't end up wasting a lot of time at the controls.  Just remember that
> > > the clock is always ticking, and try to get some cushion built up early
> > > so that in case you get a flat or have a mechanical you don't fall
> > > behind and end up feeling a huge amount of pressure.
>
> > > Beyond that, 100km isn't a very long distance.  It's a good opportunity
> > > to experience the "conforming with the rules" aspect of randonneuring
> > > (except for those related to night riding) without the additional
> > > challenge of really longer than normal distances.  Think of it as a
> > > "dress rehearsal".
>
> > > You might find this summary of interest:
> >http://www.dcrand.org/dcr/randoinfo.php?page=about-randonneuring

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[RBW] Re: Rando Advice

[RonLau]

Smitty,

You will be fine, go enjoy the ride.  My suggestions...

1. Food: don't eat something you don't normally eat during a ride.  I
like boiled eggs myself but I don't eat anything spicy during the
ride.
2. Speed: this is not a race, do at a pace you are comfortable with
for that distance.  I know this is harder since you have not done this
distance before, but there is always the first time.
3. Time at control: if you want to be fast overall, it is good idea
not to hang around for too long.  Besides hanging there for 30
minutes, you will get cold and takes a few miles to get warm up
again.  It is more important for longer distance.
4. Bring the right tools: I always bring a patch kit with me, only use
it once but it saves that ride for me.
5. For me: when I get pass the "what the  am I doing here?"
moment, it is much easier and end up being more fun and faster.

Just my 2 cents.

Ron

On Mar 6, 12:21 pm, Smitty-A-Go-Go <54ca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is all very comforting. Not that I was anxiety stricken but I was
> definitley feeling a little cautious stepping into a new world. The
> distance isn't intimidating but the timed aspect has me a little concerned.
> Will ride the bike I have and report back with pics how it goes.
>
> Thanks for the replies.
>
> --Smitty
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 6, 2012 9:09:17 AM UTC-8, Smitty-A-Go-Go wrote:
>
> > I'm thinking of riding in a 100k populaire in a couple weeks. I know it's
> > not a tremendous distance but it'll be my first rando event and my longest
> > ride ever.
>
> > I plan to do it on my Hilsen... I've got the necessary reflectors, lights
> > (battery), fenders, and a small sackville saddle bag + front trunk sack to
> > carry stuff.
>
> > I've got 40mm Marathon Supremes on there now. I imagine I'd be the only
> > one with 40mm tires. Not that that's a deal breaker but I've been
> > contemplating getting a set of faster tires and this seems like as good a
> > reason as any to make a purchase. What sort of tires do people normally
> > ride on such an event? I love all the Schwalbes I've had and am tempted to
> > get Kojaks out of brand loyalty. I was also eyeing the 32mm Grand Bois
> > Cypress on Jan's site. As far as I can tell Jan is the rando guy and I
> > can't imagine he'd sell crappy tires.
>
> > What sort of foods do people eat? I'd rather avoid things in the power goo
> > and protein pudding food group. I went for a ride with some roadie types a
> > few weeks ago and brought dates as my snack. I was keeping up ok before I
> > ate the dates but the dates sat heavy in my belly and I became a slug.
>
> > How extensive of a tool kit do people generally bring on a ride like this?
> > I generally carry more tools than I've ever really needed on the road.
> > Flats are really my only stop-me-in-my-tracks roadside repair I've had to
> > deal with. I'm tempted to minimize the tool kit but don't want to go too
> > small.
>
> > I realize the ride is short enough that I could probably get by doing
> > business as usual and get through it but thought I'd solicit advice from
> > those who have gone before. Perhaps I could appear more sophisticated than
> > I really am. Any thoughts or advice... food, tire, tool, or otherwise... 
> > would
> > be appreciated.
>
> > Oh yeah, FWIW... the ride is the OR Randonneurs Brewpub 
> > Popularie
>
> > Thanks, Smitty

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[RBW] For Trade: Shimano 6206 175mm crank for 170mm

[RonLau]

Hello, this is a long shot but I would like to see anyone here has a
170mm version of this crank to trade for my 175mm version.

It looks like this but this is not the one I have.

http://velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=f6e74fd2-417d-4154-a7c2-af9...

Lenght: 175mm
BCD: 110
BB for triple: 122mm JIS

Looking for the same thing in 170mm.

Please reply off list.

Thanks,
Ron

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[RBW] Re: Don't read if you don't like heresy (a.k.a. my new road bike which isn't a Rivendell)

[RonLau]

For those who does not live in Bay Area.  Mike's shop couch has been
THE hot topic within SF Randonneur group.  One of our member has been
known to spend hours on that couch.  I was told he rode 40 miles from
SF just to sit on it.

If you ever come here and want to ride, that will be good place to
go.  You can do the Lighthouse loop (40 miles) from there or go out to
Petaluma to say hello to Bruce Gordon and White Industries (30 miles?)

Give us a call here and we can go with you, or you can get John Potis
to go with you, he knows that couch.

On Mar 5, 11:01 am, William  wrote:
> Thanks to Rivendell, my entire stable of bikes got turned over in the last
> few years.  That process started in 2009.  The last remaining bike I had
> from my past life was a custom road bike (Davidson Signature), but even
> that, I decided, was too small.  I corrected that somewhat with a tall and
> long stem, which looked a little goofy but improved the situation.  The
> nagging shortcoming to my Davidson was that I can't run anything wider than
> a 700x25.  Hence it's for sale on ebay, as many of you have seen (now it
> has a bid!).
>
> To replace it, I had bounced around several ideas.  First off, a 59 Roadeo.
>  I'm virtually certain a Roadeo would be perfect for what I want from this
> particular spot in my stable, but I'm on a bike department budget that made
> that impossible.  A San Marcos was out of the question, mainly because I'm
> in between sizes.  So, I considered the forthcoming Rawland Nordavinden,
> was tempted by a super low sale price on the VO Rando frame, and kept an
> eye out for a 58 Rambouilet.
>
> My search ended when I got turned on to Black Mountain Cycles, a one-man
> shop in Point Reyes Station.  Mike Varley does the design and Taiwan source
> thing for both a road frameset and a really slick monster cross.  Mike has
> a long history of design in the bike industry, and he's got a spectacular
> operation.  We had an open control in Pt Reyes Station last month on an SF
> Randonneurs brevet.  I stopped in, checked out a couple measurements, and
> bought it.  Our RBA was pretty entertained that my receipt for that open
> control was for a frameset.  Anyway, I drove out there and picked it up
> yesterday, and got started on the build.  So now I have a road bike that
> makes it easier to get the bars up, takes Jack Browns without fenders, and
> Roly Polys with fenders.  It's entirely possible that I'll have the money
> for a Roadeo someday, and riding this will get me ready to buy that with
> confidence.  Or maybe I'll get more refined opinions and do a Custom.  This
> bike gets me to a MUCH more useful road experience at an incredible price.
>  I highly recommend giving Black Mountain Cycles a look if you are in the
> market for a $600 road frameset.
>
> Pictures show the progress and status:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157629154963632/

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[RBW] Re: WTT/WTB: 165mm compact double crankarms or crankset

[RonLau]

Franklyn

Hi, if you are interested, I have a set of Sugino PX with 50/40/30 in 165mm 
I am not using.  $105 shipped across the bay.

I know it is not 110bcd, but you know what you can do with it.

Thanks,
Ron

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[RBW] Re: Bay Area Travel/Biking - any place

[RonLau]

John,

What size do you ride?  
What kind of ride you want to do?  Road, mixed, mtn.?


If you are foodies, get ready to eat, it is pretty good here in SF and East 
Bay.

Ron

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[RBW] Re: Rims and tire width

[RonLau]

Tom,

Rich sold me a set of wheels with DT TK540 rims on it.  It is 24.5mm wide 
and it is design for 29'er.  It is 540g per rim, hence the name TK540, not 
the lightest rim for road use but light enough.  

The best part for this rim is a Conti 4 seasons 700x28 measures 28mm, that 
is a shock for me.

Ron

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[RBW] Re: FS: Carradice Zipped Roll and Low Saddle.

[RonLau]

Zipped Roll sold.  Still have the low saddle low flag. 

Thanks,

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[RBW] FS: Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 26x2.00

[RonLau]

Hello, for sale is a pair of Schwalbe Marathon Supremem 26x2.00, folding 
bead, 50 miles.

Mounted on my Mtn. bike and used it for 50 miles.  This is not a tire if 
you want to do your group ride with roadies but this is one of the toughest 
tire and it will take a big big nail to give you a flat.

I have another pair on on my cargo bike, for the pass three years, not one 
flat.

$90 shipped to lower 48 states.

Thanks,
Ron

http://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/road_tires/marathon_supreme

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Little Loafer, tan

[RonLau]

Sold, Thank you.

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[RBW] FS: Rivendell Little Loafer, tan

[RonLau]

To all,

Hello, this bag has been sitting on my wife's bike for the past three years 
and she told me she is making one for herself so this one has to go.

It is an older Rivendell Little Loafer, tan.  They made a few versions of 
this bag and you can see pictures here.  I removed the leather patch the day 
I bought it.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/19694929@N00/

$85 shipped to lower 48 states.

Please reply off list.
Thanks,
Ron

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[RBW] Double Top Tube, try Triple!

[RonLau]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/duke_two/5225810076/

I saw this in person yesterday, Curtis is tall and strong, so I don't think 
a triple is an issue for him.

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Re: [RBW] SFR Populaire Photos

[RonLau]

Let me add this.  Our leader here rode his FIXEDGEAR.

I rode most of the road on my road, camping, towing my son, carbon, rando, 
fast, slow, hot, cold, rain, sun but have not done this route on fixedgear 
yet.

SFR will host this again in Oct. but if anyone wants to ride all or most of 
the route (ie start from Mill Valley), let me know.  I will do it on fixed.


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[RBW] Re: Where can I find Riv Baggins bags for sale?

[RonLau]

What are you looking for anyway?

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell MTB? Rare Sighting

[RonLau]

The owner of the shop is Larry Black, nice person and I know him.  If
you are interested about this bike, I will email/call him directly.
Don't be annoy if he takes longer to give you more information, he has
thousand of bikes (no joke, I have seen them in person).  It always
take Larry some time to get back to you but I can assure you he is a
straight shooter.

On Jun 15, 11:14 am, CycloFiend  wrote:
> on 6/15/11 10:32 AM, Marty at mgie...@mac.com wrote:
>
> > Well, not actually seen in person, but I did run across one that
> > appears to be for sale at College Park Cycles. It has all the beefy
> > qualities of the Bombadil, sans under or diaga tubes for those
> > afflicted with that 'itis. Give Larry Black a call if you're in the
> > mood. I love his shop - so much vintage candy dripping from the
> > rafters, and it seems he may have a couple /few other Riv rides for
> > sale too.
>
> >http://bike123.com/used_bikes/used_sbikesview.php?ID=3361
>
> There was a Rivendell Mountain early on.  I've seen a couple images, and we
> had a thread or two about them a while back, but never seen one in the
> steel.
>
> I'm hoping there's some really odd lens distortion happening on that fork,
> because otherwise, it looks kind of "off" - I am trying to compensate for
> the "early", less-curvy fork bend which does appear in this image:
>
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/gen1/#mtnframe
>
> Anyone near enough College Park Cycles to snap another image or two?
>
> - J
>
> --
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[RBW] Re: East Coast frame painting

[RonLau]

I will consider Bilenky again, they can do most paint job in house and
that saves a lot of time.



On Jun 3, 6:46 pm, jandrews_nyc  wrote:
> Hi,
> I would like to have my green Hillborne frame painted or powder coated
> and I live in New York City.
> Does anyone have any suggestions on frame painters who can do a good
> job and professionally apply decals around NYC?
> I know Bilenky in Philly does great work ,and that's very close, but
> just putting the feelers out there to see if there is another shop
> that comes recommended.
> The Hillborne is my daily city commuter and it gets locked up outside
> in Brooklyn, Queens and Manhattan regularly so a powder coat may make
> more sense.  The green that came on the bike is very much scratched
> off both sides of the top tube from city abuse.  I want to protect and
> beautify it.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Jack Brown Green, one pair

[RonLau]

Sold, thank you all.

On Jun 3, 8:45 am, RonLau  wrote:
> To all,
>
> I forgot to add this detail.  I am selling it because none of my bike
> fits them.
>
> Ron
>
> On Jun 3, 8:44 am, RonLau  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > To all,
>
> > Going to clean out some parts I don't plan on using.  For sale is a
> > pair of JB Green, 100 miles max.  Side wall still clean but they have
> > been sitting in a box for the pass year and a half.
>
> > $65 shipped to lower 48 states.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Ron

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Jack Brown Green, one pair

[RonLau]

To all,

I forgot to add this detail.  I am selling it because none of my bike
fits them.

Ron

On Jun 3, 8:44 am, RonLau  wrote:
> To all,
>
> Going to clean out some parts I don't plan on using.  For sale is a
> pair of JB Green, 100 miles max.  Side wall still clean but they have
> been sitting in a box for the pass year and a half.
>
> $65 shipped to lower 48 states.
>
> Thanks,
> Ron

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[RBW] FS: Rivendell Jack Brown Green, one pair

[RonLau]

To all,

Going to clean out some parts I don't plan on using.  For sale is a
pair of JB Green, 100 miles max.  Side wall still clean but they have
been sitting in a box for the pass year and a half.

$65 shipped to lower 48 states.

Thanks,
Ron

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[RBW] Re: 2011 San Francisco Randonneurs Populaires!

[RonLau]

Esteban,

Sorry I will miss you this time.  Have a good time in Paris.  My wife
went to school there for two years, she thinks it is the best city on
earth, I don't agree 100% but oh well


Ron

On Jun 3, 3:18 am, Esteban  wrote:
> I would highly recommend folks do the Popularie.  I'd drive up if I
> wasn't in Paris.
>
> Last year there were like 150 riders, half of whom were first time
> randonneurs.
>
> Its a great route, and as always, a great group to boot.
>
> Esteban
> Paris, FR (through June)
>
> On Jun 3, 1:33 am, William  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I'm doing them both, even though I just broke my P12 streak at 4.  My
> > R12 is still moving at 5 months.
>
> > On Jun 2, 3:29 pm, RonLau  wrote:
>
> > > JimG posted this on FB and I am copying this here.  If you have time,
> > > please join us.  Going to be a fun ride.
>
> > > "Mark your calendars! In 2011, SFR will host two populaire rides: June
> > > 25th, and Oct. 1st. The San Francisco Randonneurs is a club that hosts
> > > rides known as brevets. Normally, our rides begin at distances of
> > > 200km and go up from there..."

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[RBW] 2011 San Francisco Randonneurs Populaires!

[RonLau]

JimG posted this on FB and I am copying this here.  If you have time,
please join us.  Going to be a fun ride.

"Mark your calendars! In 2011, SFR will host two populaire rides: June
25th, and Oct. 1st. The San Francisco Randonneurs is a club that hosts
rides known as brevets. Normally, our rides begin at distances of
200km and go up from there..."

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[RBW] Re: can one convert a 53 atlantis to a 650b?

[RonLau]

Joe,

I have done it and it came out nice.  There was before all these 650b
frames you can purchase today.

http://cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc006-ronlau0505.html

I did it with Tektro Oryx brakes and I found it "rolls" better than
559 wheels for me.

My suggestion is to borrow a set of wheels to try first, buy your
friend lunch and beer/wine, buy a pair of Oryx and try them out first
before investing on a set of wheels.

That bike is long gone and I don't have any 650b bike myself.
However, if I were to get one, I will purchase a new frame design for
650b to start.

Ron

On May 29, 9:33 am, canali  wrote:
> just wonderingand what cost/replacements are involved?
> ...read somewhere of people doing such but am not sure if this size
> was doable or not.
> cheers and happy riding
> joe

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[RBW] Re: Nitto T cages?

[RonLau]

Chris,

I have two hardly use T cages I am not using.  Will email you when I
get home (in Legoland with my 2.5 years old now)

I have two R's too if you want.

Ron

On May 28, 11:06 pm, "XO-1.org Rough Riders"
 wrote:
> HI gang
>
> I am building my new titanium Rawland Sogn and need some bottle cages.
> I hit the Riv site to order some Nitto "T" cages, which are hands-down
> my favorite cages and I have them on nearly all my bikes, but Riv is
> not currently offering them. A quick search of the 'net finds them
> generally unavailable anywhere. Anybody know the scoop, as to why, and/
> or have 2 or 3 "new" ones they would like to sell?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris Kostman
> Oak Park, CAhttp://www.XO-1.org

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[RBW] Re: Best non-Nitto/VO seatpost?

[RonLau]

My vote is for an alloy Campy post.  Simply and easy to use.

On Mar 2, 7:38 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Wait to find a useed Thomson in silver.  They're the best-est.
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Justin August wrote:
>
>
>
> > Edit: This is for my Bleriot of course.
>
> > On Mar 2, 10:10 pm, Justin August  wrote:
> > > Hey folks -
> > > I'm looking for an affordable seatpost with less setback than the VO
> > > post. I don't really feel like springing for the Nitto post. VO has a
> > > "nice" Kalloy post but I'm never sure on budget parts without
> > > recommendations. Any parts that y'all like that are less spendy?
>
> > > -Justin
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> *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would
> probably benefit more from
> improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS

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[RBW] Re: Marin Ride

[RonLau]

Adam,

Have a good time, we rode from SF to SP Park before and it is a well
equip camp ground.

You will see 150 of us doing a 200Km on the road.

Ron

On Feb 11, 7:07 am, Adam  wrote:
> Riding out this weekend with a group of roughly 25 from Embarcadero
> Bart out to Samuel P Taylor.  We'll be camping out one night taking
> the inland route out and the coastal route back.  Some of us, the riv
> riders in particular, are thinking of adding the Bolinas Ridge Trail
> into our Sunday Ride.  Hope to see some Rivendells and their riders
> out on the road, or perhaps at the hiker biker site before the rains
> come in next week.  Just wanted to share these exciting plans.
>
> Hope it's a good weekend of riding for the bay area folks and everyone
> else as well.
>
> Cheers,
> Adam

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[RBW] Re: San Francisco Randonneurs Two Rock/Valley Ford 200k

[RonLau]

Hope to see you folks there, and hope it does not rain.

On Feb 6, 8:58 pm, RonLau  wrote:
> Anyone here doing it?

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[RBW] San Francisco Randonneurs Two Rock/Valley Ford 200k

[RonLau]

Anyone here doing it?

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[RBW] Re: 650b All Rounder

[RonLau]

For me, it worth the investment.


On Feb 1, 7:31 am, bigflax925  wrote:
> Thanks for your comments and thoughts. I think I'm going to do it.
>
> I just wanted to make sure no one had any negative experiences with
> handling before investing in the experiment.
>
> Now to find some wheels!

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[RBW] Re: 650b All Rounder

[RonLau]

OK, thanks.

On Feb 1, 11:23 am, Marty  wrote:
> Hey Ron & Jon, could you post some pics of your rigs on the All
> Rounder Flickr group?
>
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/allrounder/
>
> Marty (keepin' my eyes peeled for a 61cm AR)
>
> On Feb 1, 12:38 pm, RonLau  wrote:
>
> > I have done it before,
>
> >http://cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc006-ronlau0505.html
>
> > You have to use Tektro Oryx which has enough adjustment for it.  If
> > you do like this better, you may want to invest on a set of
> > Paul MotoBMX.
>
> > Some may complain about the higher bottom bracket height, but I am use
> > to higher BB height in general, so I don't really care.
>
> > In case you are those who believe lower BB height, you may want to
> > read this.
>
> >http://davesbikeblog.squarespace.com/blog/2007/2/21/bottom-bracket-he...
>
> > Ron
>
> > On Feb 1, 8:25 am, Lee  wrote:
>
> > > Oops, I just realized this bike may be going from 559 to 584. Moving
> > > along...
>
> > > Lee
>
> > > On Feb 1, 8:12 am, Lee  wrote:
>
> > > > In case those aren't long enough, I believe the Shimano BR R-550
> > > > cantis have a tad more reach.
>
> > > > Good luck!
> > > > Lee Chae
> > > > San Francisco, CA
>
> > > > On Feb 1, 6:48 am, Tim McNamara  wrote:
>
> > > > > According to the text about Ron's bike, he used Tektro Oryx brakes on 
> > > > > his.
>
> > > > > On Feb 1, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Roy Yates wrote:
>
> > > > > > My experience is roughly the same as Tim's. While the chainstay and
> > > > > > fork clearance  looks to be more than enough for wide 650B tires, my
> > > > > > stumbling block has been the canti brakes. My preliminary 
> > > > > > measurements
> > > > > > indicated that none of the canti's I own has enough vertical
> > > > > > adjustment to reach the 650B rim.
>
> > > > > > Can anybody recommend a canti brake that has enough vertical
> > > > > > adjustment so that it can reach the 650B rim using canti posts
> > > > > > designed for 26 inch?
>
> > > > > > At the moment, I have Avid Shortys on the bike which I don't love, 
> > > > > > so
> > > > > > I'd be happy to switch to a canti that is 650B compatible
>
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > ...Roy
> > > > > > BTW  My All-Rounder is definitely 1-2mi/hr slower than my other
> > > > > > roadbikes, (even if I run 1.25in tires) but sometimes that's what a
> > > > > > ride calls for.
>
> > > > > > On Feb 1, 1:08 am, Tim McNamara  wrote:
> > > > > >> The older A/Rs were all built on 26" wheels, so changing to 650B 
> > > > > >> would raise the BB by 12.5 mm +/- the difference in tire cross 
> > > > > >> section.  The only person to convert an A/R to 650B that I know of 
> > > > > >> was Ron Lau.
>
> > > > > >>http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc006-ronlau0505.html
>
> > > > > >>http://www.freewebs.com/650b/ronsallrounder.htm
>
> > > > > >> He was very bullish about it and I corresponded with him about the 
> > > > > >> possibility of trying it with my A/R, although I never got around 
> > > > > >> to trying it.  Ron said he had trouble keeping the 26" version 
> > > > > >> over 12-15 mph but with 650B wheels it was much faster.  With 26 x 
> > > > > >> 1.25 Paselas I find my A/R is as fast as any of my other bikes and 
> > > > > >> I really like how it handles, so I never made the switch.
>
> > > > > >> On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:12 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
>
> > > > > >>> Hi Jon, the consensus I've heard is that Rivendell bottom 
> > > > > >>> brackets are pretty low to begin with, and dropping them further 
> > > > > >>> with 650b wheels can lead to a lot of pedal strikes.   That said, 
> > > > > >>> if you're going to use Hetres and shorter the cranks to 165, 
> > > > > >>> shouldn't be to much of a problem.  Don't A-Rs all have 
> > > > > >>> cantis though?  That's your bigger headache.
>
> > > > > >>> Have fun!
>
> > >

[RBW] Re: 650b All Rounder

[RonLau]

I have done it before,

http://cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc006-ronlau0505.html

You have to use Tektro Oryx which has enough adjustment for it.  If
you do like this better, you may want to invest on a set of
Paul MotoBMX.

Some may complain about the higher bottom bracket height, but I am use
to higher BB height in general, so I don't really care.

In case you are those who believe lower BB height, you may want to
read this.

http://davesbikeblog.squarespace.com/blog/2007/2/21/bottom-bracket-height.html

Ron

On Feb 1, 8:25 am, Lee  wrote:
> Oops, I just realized this bike may be going from 559 to 584. Moving
> along...
>
> Lee
>
> On Feb 1, 8:12 am, Lee  wrote:
>
> > In case those aren't long enough, I believe the Shimano BR R-550
> > cantis have a tad more reach.
>
> > Good luck!
> > Lee Chae
> > San Francisco, CA
>
> > On Feb 1, 6:48 am, Tim McNamara  wrote:
>
> > > According to the text about Ron's bike, he used Tektro Oryx brakes on his.
>
> > > On Feb 1, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Roy Yates wrote:
>
> > > > My experience is roughly the same as Tim's. While the chainstay and
> > > > fork clearance  looks to be more than enough for wide 650B tires, my
> > > > stumbling block has been the canti brakes. My preliminary measurements
> > > > indicated that none of the canti's I own has enough vertical
> > > > adjustment to reach the 650B rim.
>
> > > > Can anybody recommend a canti brake that has enough vertical
> > > > adjustment so that it can reach the 650B rim using canti posts
> > > > designed for 26 inch?
>
> > > > At the moment, I have Avid Shortys on the bike which I don't love, so
> > > > I'd be happy to switch to a canti that is 650B compatible
>
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > ...Roy
> > > > BTW  My All-Rounder is definitely 1-2mi/hr slower than my other
> > > > roadbikes, (even if I run 1.25in tires) but sometimes that's what a
> > > > ride calls for.
>
> > > > On Feb 1, 1:08 am, Tim McNamara  wrote:
> > > >> The older A/Rs were all built on 26" wheels, so changing to 650B would 
> > > >> raise the BB by 12.5 mm +/- the difference in tire cross section.  The 
> > > >> only person to convert an A/R to 650B that I know of was Ron Lau.
>
> > > >>http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc006-ronlau0505.html
>
> > > >>http://www.freewebs.com/650b/ronsallrounder.htm
>
> > > >> He was very bullish about it and I corresponded with him about the 
> > > >> possibility of trying it with my A/R, although I never got around to 
> > > >> trying it.  Ron said he had trouble keeping the 26" version over 12-15 
> > > >> mph but with 650B wheels it was much faster.  With 26 x 1.25 Paselas I 
> > > >> find my A/R is as fast as any of my other bikes and I really like how 
> > > >> it handles, so I never made the switch.
>
> > > >> On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:12 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
>
> > > >>> Hi Jon, the consensus I've heard is that Rivendell bottom brackets 
> > > >>> are pretty low to begin with, and dropping them further with 650b 
> > > >>> wheels can lead to a lot of pedal strikes.   That said, if you're 
> > > >>> going to use Hetres and shorter the cranks to 165, shouldn't be 
> > > >>> to much of a problem.  Don't A-Rs all have cantis though?  That's 
> > > >>> your bigger headache.
>
> > > >>> Have fun!
>
> > > >>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Jon Flaxman  
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>> Just scored my third Rivendell - this one is an early All Rounder with
> > > >>> S&S couplers.
>
> > > >>> I'm thinking about converting it to a 650b. Has anyone done this
> > > >>> before? What were the results?
>
> > > >>> Are there any pre-built 650b wheelsets for Clydes?
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Schmidt SON28 wheel

[RonLau]

SOLD, thank you for all the emails.

On Jan 31, 1:13 pm, RonLau  wrote:
> To all,
>
> For sale is one Schmidt SON28 front wheel, spec. see below.
>
> Rim: Open Pro, Silver
> Spokes: DT 14/15
> Nipples: brass
> Hub: SON28
> Number of spokes: 32
> Weight: 1250g, no skewer, with rim tape
> Who build it? Rich at Rivendell.
> How many miles: 400 max.
> Price: 250 shipped to lower 48 states
>
> Why am I selling this? Hardly use it.
>
> If you want to get a well build wheel at a reasonable price, this is
> it.  Granted it is not as light as their newer 20R but for Halgoen
> light and/or touring type application, this is it.  I have one on my
> touring bike, sure it is nice to have light when I need it.  Original
> skewer include.
>
> Please reply off list if you are interested.
>
> Thanks,
> Ron

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[RBW] Re: FS: Schmidt SON28 wheel

[RonLau]

you got it.  writing a email to you now.


On Jan 31, 1:15 pm, "Allingham II, Thomas J"
 wrote:
> I'll take it.
>
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> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
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> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 4:14 PM
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Subject: [RBW] FS: Schmidt SON28 wheel
>
> To all,
>
> For sale is one Schmidt SON28 front wheel, spec. see below.
>
> Rim: Open Pro, Silver
> Spokes: DT 14/15
> Nipples: brass
> Hub: SON28
> Number of spokes: 32
> Weight: 1250g, no skewer, with rim tape
> Who build it? Rich at Rivendell.
> How many miles: 400 max.
> Price: 250 shipped to lower 48 states
>
> Why am I selling this? Hardly use it.
>
> If you want to get a well build wheel at a reasonable price, this is it.  
> Granted it is not as light as their newer 20R but for Halgoen light and/or 
> touring type application, this is it.  I have one on my touring bike, sure it 
> is nice to have light when I need it.  Original skewer include.
>
> Please reply off list if you are interested.
>
> Thanks,
> Ron
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[RBW] FS: Schmidt SON28 wheel

[RonLau]

To all,

For sale is one Schmidt SON28 front wheel, spec. see below.

Rim: Open Pro, Silver
Spokes: DT 14/15
Nipples: brass
Hub: SON28
Number of spokes: 32
Weight: 1250g, no skewer, with rim tape
Who build it? Rich at Rivendell.
How many miles: 400 max.
Price: 250 shipped to lower 48 states

Why am I selling this? Hardly use it.

If you want to get a well build wheel at a reasonable price, this is
it.  Granted it is not as light as their newer 20R but for Halgoen
light and/or touring type application, this is it.  I have one on my
touring bike, sure it is nice to have light when I need it.  Original
skewer include.

Please reply off list if you are interested.

Thanks,
Ron

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[RBW] Re: New-to-me Riv Road Custom in the house

[RonLau]

sweet.

On Dec 20, 7:17 am, Esteban  wrote:
> Its in the house because there are no fender mounts and its raining
> incessantly. New-to-me 1999 Rivendell Road custom by Joe Starck with
> paint by Joe Bell.  Lot's of San Diego in this bike.
>
> I wasn't going to post it here until I got a chance to trim the cable
> housing, re-wrap the bars, etc.  But I threw on a Brooks Pro and took
> a photo or three, and thought you all might like it:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/sets/72157625512790049/
>
> I also wanted to use this opportunity to endorse buying stuff from the
> people on this list!  After you've supported Riv & Co., of course.
>
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.

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[RBW] Re: Pt Reyes 11-2010 - a set on Flickr

[RonLau]

Eric,

Very nice, did the Station to Lighthouse last week to get myself ready
for the 200k, still not an easy ride even with light winds.

Steve, wish you were out hern to enjoy this ride, hard for sure but
nice.

Ron

On Nov 22, 4:12 pm, Eric Norris  wrote:
> Today's ride on the Quickbeam:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157625449202494/
>
> --Eric N

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[RBW] Re: New Roadeo pics

[RonLau]

Nice, once you gone Ergo, you may not come back.  Just overhaul my 10
years old Ergo shifter, another 10 years I hope, assume I have enough
cassette and chains.

On Oct 31, 5:04 pm, reynoldslugs  wrote:
> Just picked this up from the LBS.  Ordered this several months ago  - -
> multiple communications with John, Grant, and Keven, and I cannot
> speak highly enough of their patience, the quality of the work, the
> quality of the paint, and my very, very high level of unspeakable joy
> with this bike.
>
> Sorry for the crummy photos - - I'm not much with a digital camera.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563...@n06/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563...@n06/sets/72157625159065507/
>
> The color - - the new gunmetal/battleship grey rolled about by
> Rivendell about a year ago - - is phenomenally mellow, beautiful.  I
> have more than a few bicycles - - and none is more beautiful than this
> little Nine Pound Hammer.
>
> The build is much different, much more modern than most of my other
> bikes, and certainly not a typical "Riv-ish" build, to the extent that
> could be characterized.  But it is sweet, like ice cream and pie.
> Here are the details:
>
> Older Campagnolo Record 10 shifters,taken from a 10 year old Colnago
> Masterlight, which is now hanging nude in the rafters
> FSA triple, 24-38-48.  Inner rings are TA's. The mix of silver and
> black actually looks ok.  From the same Colnago.
> Salsa Bell Laps
> Selle Anatomica for Clyde
> Campagnolo ten speed 12-29 Record long cage derailleur and cassette
> Easton carbon post from that Colnago
> Mavic Aksiums - - sure, they're just out of a box, but I use and abuse
> these happily on several other bikes
> Schwalbe Kojaks - sticky pillows for the lusty Sonoma County roads.
> Acorn Rollup donated by an Orange Paramount
> Tektro Wide Mouth brakes, from RBW
> Keos
>
> Ride reports to follow.

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[RBW] Re: Daily Ride

[RonLau]

Hello, I grew up there and never notice a good place to ride.

Thank you for the pictures.



On Sep 28, 4:34 pm, Fai Mao  wrote:
> Hong Kong is not known as a bicycle friendly place or a place where
> you go to see natural beauty. But my daily commute is absolutely
> stunningly pretty. You'd never know that you were in the most crowed
> city on Earth.
>
> http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a117/Phil_hk/Commute/

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Custom

[RonLau]

Jeff,

Nice color and frame.  How long is the wait from beginning till now?

Thanks,
Ron

On Sep 14, 9:41 am, Jeff  wrote:
> Mark at RBW just sent me these pictures of my new frame, just in from
> JB's paint shop.  It's shipping to Austin today.  The frame is set up
> for Paul Racers and a VO rando rack.  The color is Baffin Blue.  I
> asked for the same geometry as my Heron randonneur (72 seat angle, 73
> head tube angle, 80mm bottom bracket drop) and left the rest of the
> details to Grant.
>
> The plan is build up this bike after I get back from PBP next August,
> but I may have trouble restraining myself.  I'll probably have to
> spring for a Nitto lugged quill.  It'll end up looking similar to the
> Heron, but probably with hammered Honjo fenders.
>
> Enjoy:http://www.flickr.com/photos/19365...@n02/
>
> Jeff

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Garage Sale and Ride- Saturday, October 2

[RonLau]

Anyone here wants to go and ride up to Mt. Diablo?

"No-Host/No-Liability Ride Up Diablo- 10:45AM until, well, as long as
you like.

The weather in October can be warm, although it hasn't been so far,
and it's usually too early for rain. "



On Aug 12, 2:04 pm, John Bennett  wrote:
> Details here.
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/268
>
> Hope you can make it.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John at RBW

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[RBW] Re: Photos from 2010 Marin Century

[RonLau]

Jim,

Thank you, wish I were there.

Ron

On Aug 8, 11:34 pm, cyclofiend  wrote:
> Hey all -
>
> Spent a few hours rolling around Marin and Sonoma counties on
> Saturday, at the annual running of the Marin Century.  Had the Hilsen
> all spiffed up and ready to go on the ride, which I'd anticipated
> doing with Gino.  Alas, 'twas not to be, and after a bit of will-I/
> won't-I monologues, I rolled out to the start.
>
> Photos here -
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157624557990317
>
> Hopefully, I'll get a gap in the schedule this week to cobble together
> a bit more of a ride report.
>
> In the meantime, enjoy!
>
> - Jim

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[RBW] Re: Free 559 rear wheel

[RonLau]

We have a taker already.  Thank you all.

On Jul 29, 2:45 pm, RonLau  wrote:
> To all,
>
> Hope I will find a good home for this wheel, it came of my wife's
> Atlantis years ago, and lost in the pile of stuff.
>
> Asym Maverick Rim, 32 spokes, SHimano Deore hub.  Hub need some grease
> and that is.
>
> Free to pick up, if you want me to ship it, it will cost you shipping.
>
> Please email me if you want one for you commuter or just a back up
> wheel.
>
> Ron

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[RBW] Free 559 rear wheel

[RonLau]

To all,

Hope I will find a good home for this wheel, it came of my wife's
Atlantis years ago, and lost in the pile of stuff.

Asym Maverick Rim, 32 spokes, SHimano Deore hub.  Hub need some grease
and that is.

Free to pick up, if you want me to ship it, it will cost you shipping.

Please email me if you want one for you commuter or just a back up
wheel.

Ron

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[RBW] Re: Any Interest of doing a S240 in Bay Area?

[RonLau]

Nice, let's plan for Sept. then.  We don't have to climb Diablo, there
are many places around for that.

Half Moon Bay Rt 1., Marin, even the Penn.

Let's keep this open and let's do one for fun.

On Jul 23, 8:32 pm, reidplum  wrote:
> I've always been interested in the S24O that Riv used to do up Mt.
> Diablo in May. Spring is nice as the mtn has a lot of green then. If
> anyone has good ideas for pressuring Riv into another "official" Mt.
> Diablo Riv S24O next year, let me know. Otherwise, I'm seriously
> considering organizing an unofficial reprise of that ride, with a
> start at Riv World HQ.
>
> As next May is way in the future, I'm also interested in an easier,
> earlier S24O with other Riv riders. September also sounds good to me.
> I'm not too creative about a destination, so you guys pick a place.
>
> Reid

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[RBW] Any Interest of doing a S240 in Bay Area?

[RonLau]

My wife and I are taking our 21 months old his first camping trip this
weekend.  This got me thinking, anyone here in Bay Area want to get
together for a S240 trip?

There are plenty of places to do it, just saying it out loud and
perhaps we can have a few folks going together.

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[RBW] Re: Down Tube shifter help

[RonLau]

Get some Shimano DA 9s shifter, index/friction is up to you.

According to some old wrench at my LBS, Campy DT is fine IFF your DT
shifter boss is perfect position.

For me, DA 9.

On Jul 23, 9:51 am, Eduardo Rosas  wrote:
> I gotta say i went with campy b/c my comp-triple and my bottom bracket
> haven't failed me in over 10K, only 3K was actually mine, and this was
> a hand-me-down gift.  so when it came to looking at the shifters,
> campy was my first thought.  Simplex and silvers, more choices to
> ponder.
>
> The part seems to be a lever bracket/stop piece,http://tinyurl.com/242r366,
> i'm thinking i might be able to just fill this in with the right size
> washer.  Anyone know if that part is "necessary?"
>
> Thanks! --e
>
> On Jul 23, 5:44 am, JoelMatthews  wrote:
>
> > > What's so special about Campagnolo downtube shifters?  Or, put it
> > > another way, many would say the best downtube shifters ever were the Sun
> > > Tour Sprints, which RBW has brought back into current production as
> > > Silver shifters.  Have you considered using them?
>
> > Another alternative are the Simplex Retrofriction which still manage
> > to come up on eBay fairly often.
>
> > I keep my quite lovel Campy nos DT shifters on the display shelf.  My
> > bikes all have Simplex Retrofriction.
>
> > On Jul 23, 6:16 am, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
> > > On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 09:54 -0700, Eduardo Rosas wrote:
> > > > So I'm finally getting close to getting my custom lugged "randonneur"
> > > > type bike from a local builder.  So naturally I'm stocking up on older
> > > > proven technology like down-tube shifters.  I finally found a nice set
> > > > of c-record campy friction shifters that weren't all banged up, but...
> > > > I could only find the kind that attaches to a crown and ideally I'd
> > > > like to use the down-tube braze-ons.  There is a piece, sorry I don't
> > > > know the name (part #1 on this picture (http://www.ventoux.com/
> > > > campyrf.gif)) that I need, my set has this piece riveted into the
> > > > crown and I'd rather not mutilate the crown to get it off.  Does
> > > > anyone happen to have a pair of these for sale or know where i might
> > > > be able to pick some up.
>
> > > What's so special about Campagnolo downtube shifters?  Or, put it
> > > another way, many would say the best downtube shifters ever were the Sun
> > > Tour Sprints, which RBW has brought back into current production as
> > > Silver shifters.  Have you considered using them?

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[RBW] Re: Bay Area Folks only

[RonLau]

Greg,

Thank you for the offer.  I believe Ray has the item I need to borrow.

Thank you all for the help, if anyone here needs to borrow a bike or
two, I have many, let me know.

Ron

On Jul 20, 5:46 pm, Greg  wrote:
> I don't have a Burley, but I have an xtracycle with a child carrier
> that you can borrow.
>
> Greg
> Oakland
>
> On Jul 20, 3:55 pm, RonLau  wrote:
>
> > Bay Area Folks,
>
> > Anyone here has a Burely trailer (double or single) I can borrow for
> > this Sunday?
>
> > Wife wants to go camping with our 2 years old and there is only so
> > much I can carry.
>
> > Ron

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[RBW] Bay Area Folks only

[RonLau]

Bay Area Folks,

Anyone here has a Burely trailer (double or single) I can borrow for
this Sunday?

Wife wants to go camping with our 2 years old and there is only so
much I can carry.

Ron

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Aftermath

[RonLau]

Bruce,

For the record, if this were to happen when I am around, I will stop
to help for sure.  It is part of being in a group ride, I was taught.

Once we dropped someone, approx. a mile, then we got yell at by the
leader for not waiting for the slow rider.   I broke a chain before,
without someone looking out for you, I would be stuck there in the
middle or nowhere for a while.  The group took turn to push me all the
way to a bike shop to replace a chain, that is group ride in my book.

Ron

On Jul 20, 9:38 am, Bruce  wrote:
> What I want to know is, did the peloton stop and wait for  you?
>
> 
> From: CycloFiend 
> To: rbw group 
> Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 10:35:55 AM
> Subject: [RBW] Quickbeam Aftermath
>
> As a few folks know, my chain broke towards the end of Ron's Fixed-Gear Ride
> a couple weekends ago.

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[RBW] Re: 53 cm atlantis and 56 cm quickbeam on ebay

[RonLau]

Sorry to add this, but one of my good friend wants to sell his 56cm
Altantis as well, it is the first generation (sorry, I don't know all
the details between generations)

He is looking to sell it for a reasonable price but he is not giving
it away.  So, if you or know someone are looking for a 56cm Atlantis,
let me know.

On Jul 20, 8:06 am, Bruce Baker  wrote:
> Anyone interested below are the links.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/RIVENDELL-ATLANTIS-TOURING-COMMUTER-AND-ROAD-BIKE...http://cgi.ebay.com/Rivendell-Quickbeam-56cm-/330451742585?cmd=ViewIt...
> Bruce

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[RBW] Re: Shimano 16T freewheel, free, but you pay postage

[RonLau]

Taken, thanks.



On Jul 19, 10:36 pm, RonLau  wrote:
> Found my bags of freewheel, not doing SS anymore, so here it is for
> those who can use it.
>
> Free but you pay postage, best guess will cost you 3 to 5 ship to US.
>
> Send me a email offlist please.
>
> Ron

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[RBW] Shimano 16T freewheel, free, but you pay postage

[RonLau]

Found my bags of freewheel, not doing SS anymore, so here it is for
those who can use it.

Free but you pay postage, best guess will cost you 3 to 5 ship to US.

Send me a email offlist please.

Ron

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[RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

[RonLau]

Reminder to all Bay Area folks, this coming Sat. is the ride, hope to
see you folks out there.



On Jul 1, 3:42 pm, RonLau  wrote:
> Jim,
>
> I am planning on being there.  Last email with Rob Hawks he said we do
> need to register but the event is free.
>
> Hope to see you and others there.
>
> Ron
>
> On Jun 30, 11:18 pm, CycloFiend  wrote:
>
> > Just starting to turn the calendar over to the new month and realized there
> > is an excellent, free event planned mid-month, the San Francisco
> > Randonneurs' Populaire on July 17th.
>
> > I'm not quite sure why it's called the "Fall" Populaire, but hey, maybe it's
> > a Randonneur thing...  I'll let their short blurb take it from here:
>
> > --
>
> > The San Francisco Randonneurs would like to invite you to participate
> > in our first ever Fall Populaire, to be held on July 17th, 2010.
> > This is a free event, though registration is required.
>
> > The Populaire is intended to introduce riders to the sport of
> > randonneuring. Most of our brevets are 200km in length, but the
> > Populaire, at 115km, is only slightly more than half that length.
>
> > More information, and a link to the registration form is here:
>
> >http://sfrandonneurs.org/fall-2010-115k-populaire.htm
>
> > --
>
> > - Jim (RUSA and SFR Member, too.)
>
> > --
> > Jim Edgar
> > cyclofi...@earthlink.net
>
> > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com
> > Current Classics - Cross Bikes
> > Singlespeed - Working Bikes
>
> > Send In Your Photos! - Here's how:http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines

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[RBW] Re: Fw:URL Odd small Riv on Ebay

[RonLau]

Based on the stamping, my guess it is a Waterford era Rivendell.

On Jul 11, 5:30 pm, CycloFiend  wrote:
> I haven't seen a lot of the early bikes,  but if I were bidding on this, I'd
> look for some better documentation than appears in his description and
> answers to the questions.
>
> I'm sure there have been some derivations over the years, but I would tend
> to think that would be by specific special order, which would, in turn tend
> to be recalled.  
>
> For comparison, here's some detail from Bill's Rivendell Road from '95 - one
> of the earlier specimens I've seen -
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/4780798549
>
> - J
>
> --
> Jim Edgar
> cyclofi...@earthlink.net
>
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> Current Classics - Cross Bikes
> Singlespeed - Working Bikes
>
> on 7/11/10 1:58 PM, trevor segraves at hoont...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Almost forgot
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2emhsfw
>
> - Forwarded Message 
> From: trevor segraves 
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sun, July 11, 2010 1:31:16 PM
> Subject: Odd small Riv on Ebay
>
> Simple lugs, Henry James crown, granted it is a small frame, but nothing on
> this bike says Riv to me accept the decals and badge, even the water bottle
> bosses seam oddly placed.
> Any thoughts?
> Trevor

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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

[RonLau]

Thank you all for coming out, some of you Bay Area folks missed a good
one.

If you want to boost your ego, riding fixed on Paradise Loop and
beating roadies (the usual kind) is lots of fun.

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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

[RonLau]

OK, last call,

Time: 9:00AM
Place: Golden Gate Bridge Strauss Statue

I will be on my Bilenky fixed, looks like this

http://www.flickr.com/photos/19694...@n00/3279269772/in/set-72157608715925613/



On Jun 10, 1:19 pm, RonLau  wrote:
> Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for a
> fixed/SS ride on July 10.
>
> Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
> miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.
>
> It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
> climb everything twice.

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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

[RonLau]

Bill,

42x17 works great for us here.  I myself use something lower, 48x20,
may swap to a 48x19 to test tomorrow.

Ron

On Jul 4, 9:10 pm, "Bill M."  wrote:
> I'm still planning on coming.  Did 40+ on the fixie Riv this morning,
> with a few rolling hills thrown in.  That was by far the longest and
> hilliest fixed gear ride I've done, most of my fixed riding to date
> has been around town, and my neighborhood is dead flat.  42/17 felt
> about right, low enough to get me over a couple of short 8+% pitches,
> tall enough to only have to brake on a couple of the downhill bits.  I
> think I'm ready!
>
> I'll e-mail my contact info off list.
>
> Bill
>
> On Jul 4, 7:09 pm, RonLau  wrote:
>
> > Just a reminder we are going next Sat. morning at 9:00AM.
>
> > If you are coming, send me a email and I will send my personal info to
> > you, just in case of anything you can think of the day of.
>
> > Get ready to ride fixedgear for 30 miles or so, speed depends on the
> > group.  And to all you fast rider, we can do all the climb twice and
> > collect everybody along the way.
>
> > Ron
>
> > On Jun 10, 1:19 pm, RonLau  wrote:
>
> > > Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for 
> > > afixed/SS ride on July 10.
>
> > > Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
> > > miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.
>
> > > It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
> > > climb everything twice.

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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

[RonLau]

Just a reminder we are going next Sat. morning at 9:00AM.

If you are coming, send me a email and I will send my personal info to
you, just in case of anything you can think of the day of.

Get ready to ride fixedgear for 30 miles or so, speed depends on the
group.  And to all you fast rider, we can do all the climb twice and
collect everybody along the way.

Ron

On Jun 10, 1:19 pm, RonLau  wrote:
> Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for afixed/SS 
> ride on July 10.
>
> Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
> miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.
>
> It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
> climb everything twice.

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[RBW] WTT: Open Pro Rims

[RonLau]

I have a pair of Mavic Open Pro, 32 spokes, black I am not using. Used
for 100 miles.   Would like to trade for a pair of silver one if you
have some.

I can sell them as well, 85 shipped to lower 48 states.

Thanks,
Ron

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[RBW] Re: SFRandonneurs "Fall" Populaire - July 17th

[RonLau]

Jim,

I am planning on being there.  Last email with Rob Hawks he said we do
need to register but the event is free.

Hope to see you and others there.

Ron

On Jun 30, 11:18 pm, CycloFiend  wrote:
> Just starting to turn the calendar over to the new month and realized there
> is an excellent, free event planned mid-month, the San Francisco
> Randonneurs' Populaire on July 17th.
>
> I'm not quite sure why it's called the "Fall" Populaire, but hey, maybe it's
> a Randonneur thing...  I'll let their short blurb take it from here:
>
> --
>
> The San Francisco Randonneurs would like to invite you to participate
> in our first ever Fall Populaire, to be held on July 17th, 2010.
> This is a free event, though registration is required.
>
> The Populaire is intended to introduce riders to the sport of
> randonneuring. Most of our brevets are 200km in length, but the
> Populaire, at 115km, is only slightly more than half that length.
>
> More information, and a link to the registration form is here:
>
> http://sfrandonneurs.org/fall-2010-115k-populaire.htm
>
> --
>
> - Jim (RUSA and SFR Member, too.)
>
> --
> Jim Edgar
> cyclofi...@earthlink.net
>
> Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com
> Current Classics - Cross Bikes
> Singlespeed - Working Bikes
>
> Send In Your Photos! - Here's how:http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines

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[RBW] Re: Underbiking video

[RonLau]

Impressive. The wheels may break but that looks cool.

On Jun 24, 12:43 pm, Mojo  wrote:
> This is off the weekly installment 
> ofwww.roadbikerider.comhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z1fSpZNXhU
> Fun to watch but man I wouldn't (& of course Couldn't!) do that on a
> carbon bike.
>
> Grant has said it before though: it is alot of challenging fun to
> underbike.

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[RonLau]

Jason,

IMHO, Bilenky has been doing them since day one.  They can do that
almost in their sleep.

Others will do a fine job as well.  If you want any changes to the
frame (fork, braze on...), now is the time.  Also, they can crave the
couplers (more $) style after the lugs of your frame.  Like my wife's
bike

http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?pid=66038&id=1270865604

Disclaimer: Bilenky is a friend of mine.



On Jun 21, 3:49 pm, J L  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am at the point with my Saluki that I would like to travel with the bike.
> I have decided that pros and cons weighted the best option for me is to use
> S&S couplers.  I am in San Francisco, what are peoples recommendations about
> getting the frame S&S converted?  After it is done I would like the re-paint
> to be done well - if that changes anything.  I would gladly ship but if
> there is someplace in-state that would be better.
>
> -Jason

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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

[RonLau]

To all,

For those who will be joining us, time is 9:00AM start at Golden Gate
Bridge SF side.

Ron

On Jun 10, 1:19 pm, RonLau  wrote:
> Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for afixed/SS 
> ride on July 10.
>
> Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
> miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.
>
> It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
> climb everything twice.

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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

[RonLau]

Patrick,

I think your lung will leave us in the dust, but the turns around here
will slow you down so I can catch you.

Most turns is not by design but developed via horse trail for trees,
so they can be very tricky.  Mt. Hamilton is the best example that I
know.

Ron

On Jun 10, 5:55 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> Thanks very much, Ron, I'd love to see the photos; roads, rides and don't
> forget the bikes.
>
> My mile-high lungs would leave you all in my dust; maybe. Or maybe not.
> Anyway, it sounds wonderful and I wish I could ride it.
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:51 PM, RonLau  wrote:
> > Patrick,
>
> > If you ever come out this way, I will go with you and you can have a
> > first hand experience with Paradise Loop.
>
> > There are few climbs, nothing too bad and tons of rollers.  Since you
> > are fixedgear rider, you will be able to kick those roadies behind on
> > those rollers.
>
> > Will take some pictures for you.
>
> > Ron
>
> --
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> Albuquerque, NM
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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

[RonLau]

Bill,

That will be great, and you will have a 3 to 4 miles warm up ahead of
us.

Ron

On Jun 10, 6:47 pm, "Bill M."  wrote:
> Funny thing, I just reconfigured my '95 Riv Road as a fixed gear.
> Riding in a 39/17 for now, but I have a 44 on the way.
>
> I'll have to see if I can BART down for this ride.  Anyone else coming
> in from parts east that would be starting from the Embarcadero
> station?
>
> Bill
>
> On Jun 10, 1:19 pm, RonLau  wrote:
>
> > Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for a
> > fixed/SS ride on July 10.
>
> > Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
> > miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.
>
> > It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
> > climb everything twice.
>
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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

[RonLau]

Patrick,

If you ever come out this way, I will go with you and you can have a
first hand experience with Paradise Loop.

There are few climbs, nothing too bad and tons of rollers.  Since you
are fixedgear rider, you will be able to kick those roadies behind on
those rollers.

Will take some pictures for you.

Ron

On Jun 10, 3:37 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> Y'all make me envious; I'm stuck here in hot and windy Albuquerque. But I
> did a 23 mile hilly ride (well, it's hilly by my standards; MLK is 1 mile
> long) today on the Riv commuter to pick up some tires (thanks, Ryan).
> (Inbound via RG bike trail/mountain/ MLK/Copper; return via
> Washington/Diversion Channel bike path/ Commanche/Griegos/RG Blvd to
> Montano. Almost got sideswiped by a double trailer Sysco truck on Commanche,
> so if anyone from Sysco reads this, remember: I will sue your asses if you
> hit me and I remain alive.)
>
> Tell us about the terrain and the gearing ... and post some photos, if you
> can.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Jeremy Till  wrote:
> > Sweet!  I'll be there.
>
> > On Jun 10, 1:19 pm, RonLau  wrote:
> > > Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for a
> > > fixed/SS ride on July 10.
>
> > > Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
> > > miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.
>
> > > It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
> > > climb everything twice.
>
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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

[RonLau]

Thank you Eric, after your 600k, you should have a good time in
Hawaii.  Well, have a good time in Hawaii.

On Jun 10, 1:55 pm, Eric Norris  wrote:
> If I didn't already have plans to be in Hawaii that day, I would join you.
>
> --Eric
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 10, 2010, at 1:19 PM, RonLau  wrote:
>
> > Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for a
> > fixed/SS ride on July 10.
>
> > Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
> > miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.
>
> > It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
> > climb everything twice.
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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

[RonLau]

sure, if you can limit how many times you shift.  because rest of us
cannot

On Jun 10, 4:26 pm, manueljohnacosta 
wrote:
> Can non fixed/ss bikers welcome?
>
> On Jun 10, 3:39 pm, "Jim M."  wrote:
>
> > That's the same day as La Ruta Loca. Tough choice, but I'm going to
> > miss both 'cuz I'll be backpacking.
>
> > happy trails,
> > jim mather
> > wc ca
>
> > On Jun 10, 1:19 pm, RonLau  wrote:
>
> > > Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for a
> > > fixed/SS ride on July 10.
>
> > > Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
> > > miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.
>
> > > It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
> > > climb everything twice.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

[RonLau]

BTW, I have an extra fixed/SS if anyone needs to borrow one.

It is a 54cm c-t ST with a 54 c-c tt.  If you have not done SS/fixed
before, it is fun and IMHO it is good to ride with other experience
fixed/ss riders so you can learn all the joy and pain along with the
quite drive train.

On Jun 10, 1:19 pm, RonLau  wrote:
> Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for a
> fixed/SS ride on July 10.
>
> Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
> miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.
>
> It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
> climb everything twice.

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[RBW] SF/Marin Fixedgear/SS ride July 10, 2010

[RonLau]

Chae Lee (aka i am a lineman for the county's) and I are going for a
fixed/SS ride on July 10.

Bring you fixedgear or SS and we can do the Paradise Loop again.  ~30
miles if you start from Golden Gate Bridge.

It will be a causal no drop ride, if you are strong and fast, you can
climb everything twice.


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[RBW] Interesting, may be useful Suginol crank for some of us.

[RonLau]

http://www.suginoltd.co.jp/japan/ox801d_main_japan.htm

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.suginoltd.co.jp/japan/ox801d_main_japan.htm&ei=RxcRTN-yN5fxngfj6OncCA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBUQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.suginoltd.co.jp/japan/ox801d_main_japan.htm%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3D1Yl%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official



If you look towards the bottom where it describe chain ring size, it
can come with


52T-36T

50T-34T

48T-34T / 48T-32T

46T-36T / 46T-34T / 46T-32T / 46T-30T

Q factor reports as 145mm, same as a Shimano double, low enough for
me.
Price is not cheap, close to $400.  That is not ideal.  But if you
look at other cranks out there, not too bad.

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: Touring racks

[RonLau]

+1 on Bruce Gordon rack.  I think the racks are better looking,
strong, and made in US.





On Jun 4, 8:15 am, "Bruce Gordon"  wrote:
> Another difference is that Bruce Gordon Racks are made in the USA - NOT
> China, where the Tubus racks are made.
> Regards,
> Bruce Gordon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of JoelMatthews
> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 8:03 AM
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Wanted: Touring racks
>
> > There are always Bruce Gordon Cycles Racks.
> > Check them out at:http://www.bgcycles.com/racks.html
>
> > Regards,
> > Bruce Gordonwww.brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com
>
> To the OP: One thing you will never get with Tubus that you will with
> the Bruce Gordon is ready access to the person who actually makes the
> rack (unless you speak German and can figure out how to get past the
> Ortlieb - tubus is an Ortlieb brand - receptionist.)
>
> It is certainly a big plus for BG.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: Touring racks

[RonLau]

I say Tubus Cargo rear with Tubus Tara front, worked very well for me.

Purchased mine here

http://www.thetouringstore.com/TUBUS/Tubus%20Matched%20Sets/Tubus%20Matched%20Sets.htm

Have a good time, I envy you.

On Jun 3, 6:46 pm, thebvo  wrote:
> Howdy
> I'm the proud new owner of an Atlantis, which my pops so lovingly
> built up for me.  First tour on my list is the pacific coast hwy.  All
> 2,000 miles of it.  So, I guess I'll need some quality racks.  I've
> been looking for steel, and I'd like to stay away from aluminum,
> unless someone can sway me otherwise.  I would like to purchase a pair
> from one source.
> I am also willing to listen to general opinions from experienced
> tourers.
> Thanks for reading, and happy riding
> ~Ben

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[RBW] Re: FS: S&S coupled 58cm Rambouillet, S&S 57cm Bleriot, wheels, tires, case

[RonLau]

Timothy,

Might I suggest you don't sell the S&S case, it is very useful to
store tires and rims.

I have a few S&S bikes, and use for storage of tires/rims/junk when
not it use.

Moreover, if you need to fly one day with lots of stuff, this case is
the biggest you can use and it carry tons of stuff of you.

Ron

On Jun 3, 1:03 pm, Timothy Whalen  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am simplifying my bike stable and selling the following S&S coupled frames
> and supporting stuff.  Buyer pays shipping.  I'll send a link to pics by
> separate email.   Please contact me directly if interested.  These are my
> best guesses at fair prices, if you disagree, please make an offer.
>
> Best,
> Tim Whalen
> Colorado Springs
>
> *58cm S&S coupled Rambouillet frame with headset and fork*.  Includes wrench
> and lithium grease for couplers.  Forest green with some scrapes and
> scratches.  $1600.
>
> *57cm S&S coupled Rivendell Bleriot frame with headset and fork*.  Includes
> wrench and lithium grease for couplers.  Original Bleriot color, with
> minimal, but some, scratches/scrapes.  $1,000.
>
> *650B wheelset*.  9 speed Ultegra hubs with skewers, Velocity Aerohead rims,
> hand built by Anthony at Longleaf cycles in Wilmington, NC.  Excellent
> shape, maybe 2k miles.  $300.
>
> *Pair 650 X 32 Grand Bois Cypes tires *with tubes.  Almost new.  $80.
>
> *Pair Ruffy Tuffys*.  Estimated better than 50% life on these versatile
> tires.  With tubes, $50.
>
> *Misc. 650B tubes*.  All new, five for $20.  I have them grouped roughly by
> width as if for either the GBs or Ruffys.  Some slime, some not.
>
> *S&S hard case*.  Great protection for your S&S coupled bike and easy to use
> with wheels and pull handle.  Fits airline luggage requirements so I have
> never had an additional charge.  Includes a set of frame protector foam
> tubes cut for a 58cm Rambouillet which I am selling on the Riv list.  They
> can easily be cut to fit the Bleriot.  This is scarred from travel but still
> 100% functional.  New $425, I"ll sell for $200.

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[RBW] San Francisco Randonneurs, Pt Reyes Populaire 115k

[RonLau]

To all,

The San Francisco Randonneurs is going to held a 115K Populaire on
July 17, 2010 (Sat) starting at 7:00AM) from Golden Gate Bridge.

Below is the cue sheet from 2009 event but basically the same.

Pre-registration is required. It's free, but they need to know who is
coming.

Hope to see some of you there.

Thanks,
Ron

http://www.sfrandonneurs.org/

http://www.sfrandonneurs.org/assets/downloads/115kPopulaireCue.pdf

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[RBW] Re: SFR 600K Brevet, May 22-23, 2010 - a set on Flickr

[RonLau]

Eric,

Saw you guys on the last climb.  Talked to Rob a minute and you guys
look strong even after all these hours.

Hats off to you.

Ron

On May 24, 9:21 am, Eric Norris  wrote:
> Rode my Rivendell Road in the San Francisco Randonneurs 600K this weekend:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/7215762400863/
>
> We didn't get rain like the Oregon randonneurs (rain in Oregon? shocking!), 
> but we did have headwinds on the entire outbound route.
>
> Photo captions coming soon ...
>
> --Eric
> campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org
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[RBW] Black 650b Synergy rims

[RonLau]

To all,

While Rich and I are having coffee this morning, he mentioned he has 5
black 650b rim from Velocity.  3 of them are rear O/C and 2 are
regular rims.  In case you want some black rims for you bike, now is
the time.

Contact Rich at Rivendell for more details.

Disclaimer: Rich is a friend of the family, live close by and also the
Lau household official wheel builder.

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[RBW] I wish I get to do this before I am too old to ride.

[RonLau]

http://hampsten.blogspot.com/2010/02/l-2009-brooks-england-report.html

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[RBW] Re: OT: Respect you wheel builder, Rich to be exact

[RonLau]

OK, this can get me in trouble.  Keep in mind this is MY option.  YMMV
of course.

Rich crossed US before (he is talking about doing it again btw), he
knows touring bike, and what kind of wheels you need.  He also has a
tandem, xtracycle and other all rounders type of bike.  So he knows
touring and what to make a wheel last.

Len used to race, tubulars world. Currently his Della Santa is Dura
Ace 10s with Downtube index shifter.

I can say all my Rich wheels NEVER has a problem before, has not true
them once, no broken spokes.  Some of the road in SF can be a little
rough.

I also have wheels Len build, a set of Campy Centuar hub with FIR Tour
rim, he trued them once after 10 years.  The nipples are turing green
but I plan on riding them until something break.  He build a Chorus/OP
wheel for me, it

So, IMHO, either one can build you a set of wheels that last a long
time.  They come from different background but their wheels last for
me.  For ref. I weight 165 and most of my wheels are 32 spokes, a few
28 and a few 36.

Ron



On Apr 21, 2:29 pm, bfd  wrote:
> On Apr 21, 1:54 pm, RonLau  wrote:> For those of you who 
> don't know, Rich works as a musician in Bay
> > Area.  Last night I went and see him and his wife play at a cafe in
> > town.
>
> > Enjoy.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwumDTwukgY
>
> Nice video! Ron, thanks!  Btw, how do Rich's wheels compare to someone
> like Len at the Bike Nook?
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[RBW] Re: OT: Respect you wheel builder, Rich to be exact

[RonLau]

Bird's tune no less

On Apr 21, 2:21 pm, William  wrote:
> Nice video.  Thanks.  Rich can play.
>
> On Apr 21, 1:54 pm, RonLau  wrote:
>
> > For those of you who don't know, Rich works as a musician in Bay
> > Area.  Last night I went and see him and his wife play at a cafe in
> > town.
>
> > Enjoy.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwumDTwukgY
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[RBW] OT: Respect you wheel builder, Rich to be exact

[RonLau]

For those of you who don't know, Rich works as a musician in Bay
Area.  Last night I went and see him and his wife play at a cafe in
town.

Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwumDTwukgY

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[RBW] Re: Child seat recommendations?

[RonLau]

This is what I have for my 17 months old

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boxdogbikes/4420617827/

works great, he gets to see more than a trailer for sure.



On Mar 19, 7:38 am, Weird Harold  wrote:
> My daughter is 21 months, and I think it's time to get her up on a
> bike with me. Any recommendations for child bike seats? Front or Rear?

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[RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?

[RonLau]

Aaron,

Thank you!  After trying the Regal, someone gave me an old Concor (not
light list Lance uses) to try, works even better for me.

Saddles are like shoes, what works for me/you does not always
translate to others.   The new Concor usually goes for $100 to $130,
not cheap but not too expensive you cannot try them.

Ron

On Mar 20, 11:03 am, Aaron Thomas  wrote:
> Ron,
>
> Funny you should mention the Concor. I thought about buying one a few
> years ago, but what made me decide on the Regal was seeing it in
> photos of your yellow Ebisu 650b:
>
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2006/cc191-ronlau1106.html
>
> I thought the Regal looked really good and "classic" on your Ebisu, so
> I bought one for my Romulus and have been happy ever since. Whatever
> happened to your Ebisu? Do you still have it? It's a fine looking
> bike!
>
> Aaron
>
> On Mar 19, 11:18 pm, RonLau  wrote:
>
> > Aaron,
>
> > Give San Marco Concor a try, my choice for most of my bikes.  The
> > Concor has been around for a long time and it works for many folks.
>
> > Ron
>
> > On Mar 18, 2:16 pm, Aaron Thomas  wrote:
>
> > > In fact, my favorite saddle is not a Brooks at all; it is a Selle San
> > > Marco Regal. I think the Regal looks just fine on my Romulus, some
> > > might even say "classico".
>
> > > Moreover, since it is leather stretched over some padding and a
> > > plastic frame, you can ride it in the rain without worries about
> > > sagging or keeping it covered to protect it from the elements. When I
> > > rode a B17 (which I didn't care for too much) and a Team Pro (which I
> > > actually did like quite a bit), I always found it a hassle to have to
> > > pamper and protect for fear of them getting water-logged and saggy.
> > > The Regal is carefree by comparison.
>
> > > Aaron
>
> > > On Mar 18, 1:33 pm, Joe Bartoe  wrote:
>
> > > > Actually, I wouldn't choose any of them. One need not ride Brooks 
> > > > saddles or some other slab of leather hammocked over a metal frame to 
> > > > be Rivendellian. Some of us prefer other choices. No saddle that is 
> > > > uncomfortable will ever grace my seatpost for long, and Brooks saddles 
> > > > have been known to grace my seatpost shorter than  most.
>
> > > > YB(utt)MV,
>
> > > > Joe
>
> > > > > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:11:19 -0800
> > > > > Subject: Re: [RBW] What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?
> > > > > From: cyclofi...@earthlink.net
> > > > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > > > > on 3/18/10 11:37 AM, usuk2007 at clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote:
>
> > > > > > I've seen the Roadeo with B17's and maybe Fizik saddles, but not one
> > > > > > with a Brooks Swift or Swallow which would seem to be the ideal way 
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > go. Classic, but made to ride fast and they still have bag loops.
>
> > > > > Those would be my choices.  I think some of the issue is that there 
> > > > > really
> > > > > aren't that many out there yet.
>
> > > > > - J
>
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jim Edgar
> > > > > cyclofi...@earthlink.net
>
> > > > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com
> > > > > Current Classics - Cross Bikes
> > > > > Singlespeed - Working Bikes
>
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>
> > > > > "I threw one leg over my battle-scarred all-terrain stump-jumper and 
> > > > > rode
> > > > > several miles to work. I'd sprayed it with some cheap gold paint so it
> > > > > wouldn't look nice. Locked my bike to a radiator, because you never 
> > > > > knew,
> > > > > and went in."
> > > > > -- Neal Stephenson, "Zodiac"
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[RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?

[RonLau]

Aaron,

Give San Marco Concor a try, my choice for most of my bikes.  The
Concor has been around for a long time and it works for many folks.

Ron

On Mar 18, 2:16 pm, Aaron Thomas  wrote:
> In fact, my favorite saddle is not a Brooks at all; it is a Selle San
> Marco Regal. I think the Regal looks just fine on my Romulus, some
> might even say "classico".
>
> Moreover, since it is leather stretched over some padding and a
> plastic frame, you can ride it in the rain without worries about
> sagging or keeping it covered to protect it from the elements. When I
> rode a B17 (which I didn't care for too much) and a Team Pro (which I
> actually did like quite a bit), I always found it a hassle to have to
> pamper and protect for fear of them getting water-logged and saggy.
> The Regal is carefree by comparison.
>
> Aaron
>
> On Mar 18, 1:33 pm, Joe Bartoe  wrote:
>
> > Actually, I wouldn't choose any of them. One need not ride Brooks saddles 
> > or some other slab of leather hammocked over a metal frame to be 
> > Rivendellian. Some of us prefer other choices. No saddle that is 
> > uncomfortable will ever grace my seatpost for long, and Brooks saddles have 
> > been known to grace my seatpost shorter than  most.
>
> > YB(utt)MV,
>
> > Joe
>
> > > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:11:19 -0800
> > > Subject: Re: [RBW] What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?
> > > From: cyclofi...@earthlink.net
> > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > > on 3/18/10 11:37 AM, usuk2007 at clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote:
>
> > > > I've seen the Roadeo with B17's and maybe Fizik saddles, but not one
> > > > with a Brooks Swift or Swallow which would seem to be the ideal way to
> > > > go. Classic, but made to ride fast and they still have bag loops.
>
> > > Those would be my choices.  I think some of the issue is that there really
> > > aren't that many out there yet.
>
> > > - J
>
> > > --
> > > Jim Edgar
> > > cyclofi...@earthlink.net
>
> > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com
> > > Current Classics - Cross Bikes
> > > Singlespeed - Working Bikes
>
> > > Your Photos are needed! - Send them here -
> > >http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines
>
> > > "I threw one leg over my battle-scarred all-terrain stump-jumper and rode
> > > several miles to work. I'd sprayed it with some cheap gold paint so it
> > > wouldn't look nice. Locked my bike to a radiator, because you never knew,
> > > and went in."
> > > -- Neal Stephenson, "Zodiac"
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[RBW] Re: TCO in general..

[RonLau]

Another Frame builder talked about TCO.

http://davesbikeblog.squarespace.com/blog/2006/11/5/toe-overlap-no-problem.html

"
There was a discussion recently on Classic Rendezvous Bike list; the
tread titled “Toe overlap even on good bikes,” implied that toe
overlap was a design flaw and one should not expect to see this on
quality bikes. Toe overlap is a result of other critical design
factors and cannot always be avoided especially on smaller frames.

When a framebuilder designs and builds a racing frame, his main
criteria are to: (1.) Place the rider in a position where he can pedal
with maximum efficiency, and (2.) Design the frame so the finished
bike will handle at speed in the best way possible. If the result of
the design is toe overlap then the builder can do little because to
achieve toe clearance other aspects of the frame’s design would have
to be altered.

For example the picture above shows my own bike. It has a small 52 cm.
(C to T) frame and has about an inch of toe overlap. If I were to make
the front end of the bike one inch longer to avoid toe overlap, I
would have to do one of the four following things or a combination of
all four.

(1.) I could make the seat angle steeper, or (2.) the top tube longer.
(3.) I could make the head angle shallower, or (4.) the fork rake
(offset) longer. The first two would effect my riding position; the
last two would affect the handling of the bike.

Toe overlap is not a problem because riding and cornering at normal
speed the front wheel never turns far enough for the toe to hit the
front wheel. The only time it becomes an issue is when turning sharply
at a very slow speed; doing a U-turn on a very narrow road for
example.

Caution and common sense are all that is required when executing a
tight U-turn. If you are turning left then your right pedal will be
down for maximum ground clearance as you coast into the turn. By the
time you need to start pedaling again you are already half way through
the turn, and the right crank has to complete ¾ of a turn before the
toe is opposite the front wheel.

By that time, you should be all the way around and the front wheel is
straight ahead again. If you are not the coast again, or ratchet the
crank back again on the freewheel.

Doing the same maneuver with a fixed gear is a little trickier; but it
is a matter of timing. Go very slow and start to turn as the toe
passes the front wheel; that way the crank has a whole revolution to
go before it makes contact again. If the front wheel is still turned
the next time round; straighten the front wheel so the toe clears,
then turn sharply after it has passed.

Fixed gear and fenders (Mudguards.) is going to make this move a
little difficult, but not impossible. With clipless pedals, you could
unclip the outside foot and move your toe back to give more clearance.
I sometimes get out of the saddle and simply point my toe downwards to
give more clearance.

What you need to avoid is a situation where you get your toe on the
wrong side of the wheel in a turn; if you do, try not to panic.
Ratchet the crank back if you have a freewheel, or if you are riding
fixed gear, keep going and let the toe pass the front wheel so you can
straighten up again.

Lastly, I would like to point out that a racing motorcycle with narrow
swept down handlebars; turning is restricted because the handlebars
touch the fuel tank. Here is a machine that will go 200 mph plus, and
restricted turning seems not to be a problem. Therefore, I maintain
the opinion that toe overlap on a bicycle is neither a design fault
nor a problem."

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[RBW] Re: Feeling self-conscious riding a rivendell

[RonLau]

Life is too short NOT to ride a bike you like.

I will ride the bike I like best to work.  At the end of the day, it
is only a bike.

On Jan 16, 9:40 am, Ryan  wrote:
> Don't. Just feel good about it. Rivendells of any stripe are wonderful
> beasts.To coin one of Grant's phrases, they are rideable art. But
> there's the rub.
>
> The thing is ...if you're going to commute on it , make sure you have
> a safe place to lock up. Investigate what insurance coverage is
> available.Even if you're covered, though, losing a well-loved bike is
> a serious bummer. So a nice-riding , functional beater is probably the
> way to go if your place of employment isn't willing or able to furnish
> secure, indoor storage
>
> I don't ride my Rivs to work; I ride my X0-1...and right now,where I
> lock up is fairly secure. Shortly, though, we're moving to a downtown
> office with a lockable cage. I'm concerned about the welfare of my
> X0-1...a bike, like my 2 rivendells - I would hate to lose. So my
> partner (the bike mechanic) and I are resurrecting an old PX-10 I've
> owned since 83. It's an early 70's model, the 3rd PX-10 I've owned.
> Other 2 were ripped off.
>
>  Cranks were stripped when we 1st thought about turning it into a
> single-speed,  so yesterday, we had them removed. and we'll basically
> build up a single-speed w. moustache bars and other things we have
> lying around. With the notoriously tacky paint, I'm hoping it won't
> attract too much attention once I start riding to work again in the
> spring.
>
> Enjoy your new bike
>
> Ryan Fleming
> Winnipeg,Manitoba
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[RBW] Re: WTT: Green Tweed Nigel Smythe Seat Pouch

[RonLau]

 Anyone on this list has a Seat pouch in Tan Canvas or Berthoud
Seatbag might be interested in
 trading for a Tweed Seat pouch?

 It was on my wife's bike, only a hundred miles or so.

 Please reply off list if you are interested.

 Thanks,
 Ron
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[RBW] WTT: Green Tweed Nigel Smythe Seat Pouch

[RonLau]

Anyone on this list has a Seat pouch in Tan Canvas be interested in
trading for a Tweed Seat pouch?

It was on my wife's bike, only a hundred miles or so.

Please reply off list if you are interested.

Thanks,
Ron
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[RBW] Re: What parts are going on Roadeos

[RonLau]

Terry,

Are you using the new Veloce?

Ron

On Dec 9, 5:52 pm, terryg  wrote:
> umm yeah so I'm going with a stunning bright yellow glittery banana
> seat, 3' ape hangers with mirrors and horns (and tassles), red BMX
> "mag" wheels and the coup de grace: a propeller!  It's because of the
> threaded steerer tube.
>
> Actually my parts arrived at my LBS, they're all rather Italian in
> nature, but of a charming alloy.  I'm going to try the Berthoud
> saddle, too.  I'm hoping to test ride this weekend, if the groovy
> Chicago weather ... eh screw it, it hasn't stopped me yet!
>
> On Dec 9, 3:28 pm, nawr...@comcast.net wrote:
>
> > And if I could add, threaded or threadless?
>
> > Dave Nawrocki
> > Fort Collins, CO
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "usuk2007" 
> > To: "RBW Owners Bunch" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2009 9:29:20 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
> > Subject: [RBW] What parts are going on Roadeos
>
> > Now that Roadeos are being delivered I'd be interested to know what
> > parts folks are putting on them. Campy, Sram, Shimano., TA Sugino,
> > Ultegra Dura Ace etc and what the cost is coming to.
>
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