[RBW] Re: Brass on Newbaums

2022-10-25 Thread Eric Marth
I wonder if brass crimp clamps would work? 

Brokebike — Yeah, I appreciate buying from McMaster and getting US made 
brass bolts but at $5+/each, well, that's really nuts. I mean... bolts. I 
mean *crazy*. 

On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 12:18:42 PM UTC-4 Collin A wrote:

> The other alternative is to simply solder the connections (since its 
> brass) rather than rely on the twine-knot method normally used (which 
> definitely gives a very solid connection. I'm hesitant to try this on thin 
> aluminum handlebars though...
>
> I'm looking forward to the more muted color too, its way too shiny right 
> now, ha!
>
> On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 5:36:06 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey now, I like these brass and copper wire wraps! 
>>
>> I would think that wrapping the wire tight and finishing it by twisting 
>> two ends together somehow would hold in place pretty well. I might have to 
>> experiment. 
>>
>> Will look great once it starts to weather! 
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 1:51:37 AM UTC-4 Philip Williamson wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> That looks good!
>>> I did a similar wrap a few years ago on a couple different bikes, also 
>>> using art project wire!
>>>
>>> https://www.biketinker.com/2007/projects/copper-wire-to-finish-off-your-bar-wrap/
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> Sonoma County, Calif (but Yamhill County, Ore back then)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 6:46:48 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>>>
 I'm in the process of tinkering on the Appaloosa (going to SS finally) 
 and the process has involved several big changes and some not-so-big 
 changes...namely this one.

 Eric Marth's videos have inspired me to add more shiny brass bits to my 
 bikes, but without sending $5 per brass bolt! Instead, I had some leftover 
 brass wire (several hundred feet!) from a little art project I finished 
 several years ago now, and I have also always wanted to try the twine wrap 
 on the newbaums. In this case, I didn't want to buy some twine and figured 
 "Hey, I've got this narrow gauge brass wire, lets try that on my chainstay 
 wrap in case it turns out like crap." This was the result (with 2 year old 
 newbaums):
 [image: PXL_20221025_011343607 (1).jpg]

 Not the cleanest result, but the brass obviously has less twine-like 
 properties and forces a much tighter wrap and is less forgiving in the 
 final look. The final step of bringing the knot under the wrap is also a 
 bit of a nuance and is not as "clean," although I'm hoping to improve it 
 with some more attempts. For those curious, a 1.5m length piece of this 
 wire is 2.5g.

 I'm also going to try using brass washers under my stainless bolts to 
 add a bit of shiny to an otherwise mundane fastener...and those are only 
 $0.10 a piece!

 Cheers,
 Collin, "fools gold" in Sacramento

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Brass on Newbaums

2022-10-25 Thread Collin A
The other alternative is to simply solder the connections (since its brass) 
rather than rely on the twine-knot method normally used (which definitely 
gives a very solid connection. I'm hesitant to try this on thin aluminum 
handlebars though...

I'm looking forward to the more muted color too, its way too shiny right 
now, ha!

On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 5:36:06 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey now, I like these brass and copper wire wraps! 
>
> I would think that wrapping the wire tight and finishing it by twisting 
> two ends together somehow would hold in place pretty well. I might have to 
> experiment. 
>
> Will look great once it starts to weather! 
>
> On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 1:51:37 AM UTC-4 Philip Williamson wrote:
>
>>
>> That looks good!
>> I did a similar wrap a few years ago on a couple different bikes, also 
>> using art project wire!
>>
>> https://www.biketinker.com/2007/projects/copper-wire-to-finish-off-your-bar-wrap/
>>
>> Philip
>> Sonoma County, Calif (but Yamhill County, Ore back then)
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 6:46:48 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> I'm in the process of tinkering on the Appaloosa (going to SS finally) 
>>> and the process has involved several big changes and some not-so-big 
>>> changes...namely this one.
>>>
>>> Eric Marth's videos have inspired me to add more shiny brass bits to my 
>>> bikes, but without sending $5 per brass bolt! Instead, I had some leftover 
>>> brass wire (several hundred feet!) from a little art project I finished 
>>> several years ago now, and I have also always wanted to try the twine wrap 
>>> on the newbaums. In this case, I didn't want to buy some twine and figured 
>>> "Hey, I've got this narrow gauge brass wire, lets try that on my chainstay 
>>> wrap in case it turns out like crap." This was the result (with 2 year old 
>>> newbaums):
>>> [image: PXL_20221025_011343607 (1).jpg]
>>>
>>> Not the cleanest result, but the brass obviously has less twine-like 
>>> properties and forces a much tighter wrap and is less forgiving in the 
>>> final look. The final step of bringing the knot under the wrap is also a 
>>> bit of a nuance and is not as "clean," although I'm hoping to improve it 
>>> with some more attempts. For those curious, a 1.5m length piece of this 
>>> wire is 2.5g.
>>>
>>> I'm also going to try using brass washers under my stainless bolts to 
>>> add a bit of shiny to an otherwise mundane fastener...and those are only 
>>> $0.10 a piece!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Collin, "fools gold" in Sacramento
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Brass on Newbaums

2022-10-25 Thread Brian Turner
As much as I love finding parts on McMaster and Bolt Depot, sourcing brass 
M5 bolts can get pretty pricey. I recently searched eBay and the dreaded 
Amazon and was finding similar quality brass bolts for like $12 per 
10-pack. They come from China mind you, but if you really wanted a good 
supply of brass hardware for way cheaper, that's what I'd recommend.

On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 8:36:06 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey now, I like these brass and copper wire wraps! 
>
> I would think that wrapping the wire tight and finishing it by twisting 
> two ends together somehow would hold in place pretty well. I might have to 
> experiment. 
>
> Will look great once it starts to weather! 
>
> On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 1:51:37 AM UTC-4 Philip Williamson wrote:
>
>>
>> That looks good!
>> I did a similar wrap a few years ago on a couple different bikes, also 
>> using art project wire!
>>
>> https://www.biketinker.com/2007/projects/copper-wire-to-finish-off-your-bar-wrap/
>>
>> Philip
>> Sonoma County, Calif (but Yamhill County, Ore back then)
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 6:46:48 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> I'm in the process of tinkering on the Appaloosa (going to SS finally) 
>>> and the process has involved several big changes and some not-so-big 
>>> changes...namely this one.
>>>
>>> Eric Marth's videos have inspired me to add more shiny brass bits to my 
>>> bikes, but without sending $5 per brass bolt! Instead, I had some leftover 
>>> brass wire (several hundred feet!) from a little art project I finished 
>>> several years ago now, and I have also always wanted to try the twine wrap 
>>> on the newbaums. In this case, I didn't want to buy some twine and figured 
>>> "Hey, I've got this narrow gauge brass wire, lets try that on my chainstay 
>>> wrap in case it turns out like crap." This was the result (with 2 year old 
>>> newbaums):
>>> [image: PXL_20221025_011343607 (1).jpg]
>>>
>>> Not the cleanest result, but the brass obviously has less twine-like 
>>> properties and forces a much tighter wrap and is less forgiving in the 
>>> final look. The final step of bringing the knot under the wrap is also a 
>>> bit of a nuance and is not as "clean," although I'm hoping to improve it 
>>> with some more attempts. For those curious, a 1.5m length piece of this 
>>> wire is 2.5g.
>>>
>>> I'm also going to try using brass washers under my stainless bolts to 
>>> add a bit of shiny to an otherwise mundane fastener...and those are only 
>>> $0.10 a piece!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Collin, "fools gold" in Sacramento
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Brass on Newbaums

2022-10-25 Thread Eric Marth
Hey now, I like these brass and copper wire wraps! 

I would think that wrapping the wire tight and finishing it by twisting two 
ends together somehow would hold in place pretty well. I might have to 
experiment. 

Will look great once it starts to weather! 

On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 1:51:37 AM UTC-4 Philip Williamson wrote:

>
> That looks good!
> I did a similar wrap a few years ago on a couple different bikes, also 
> using art project wire!
>
> https://www.biketinker.com/2007/projects/copper-wire-to-finish-off-your-bar-wrap/
>
> Philip
> Sonoma County, Calif (but Yamhill County, Ore back then)
>
>
> On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 6:46:48 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>
>> I'm in the process of tinkering on the Appaloosa (going to SS finally) 
>> and the process has involved several big changes and some not-so-big 
>> changes...namely this one.
>>
>> Eric Marth's videos have inspired me to add more shiny brass bits to my 
>> bikes, but without sending $5 per brass bolt! Instead, I had some leftover 
>> brass wire (several hundred feet!) from a little art project I finished 
>> several years ago now, and I have also always wanted to try the twine wrap 
>> on the newbaums. In this case, I didn't want to buy some twine and figured 
>> "Hey, I've got this narrow gauge brass wire, lets try that on my chainstay 
>> wrap in case it turns out like crap." This was the result (with 2 year old 
>> newbaums):
>> [image: PXL_20221025_011343607 (1).jpg]
>>
>> Not the cleanest result, but the brass obviously has less twine-like 
>> properties and forces a much tighter wrap and is less forgiving in the 
>> final look. The final step of bringing the knot under the wrap is also a 
>> bit of a nuance and is not as "clean," although I'm hoping to improve it 
>> with some more attempts. For those curious, a 1.5m length piece of this 
>> wire is 2.5g.
>>
>> I'm also going to try using brass washers under my stainless bolts to add 
>> a bit of shiny to an otherwise mundane fastener...and those are only $0.10 
>> a piece!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Collin, "fools gold" in Sacramento
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Brass on Newbaums

2022-10-24 Thread Philip Williamson

That looks good!
I did a similar wrap a few years ago on a couple different bikes, also 
using art project wire!
https://www.biketinker.com/2007/projects/copper-wire-to-finish-off-your-bar-wrap/

Philip
Sonoma County, Calif (but Yamhill County, Ore back then)


On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 6:46:48 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:

> I'm in the process of tinkering on the Appaloosa (going to SS finally) and 
> the process has involved several big changes and some not-so-big 
> changes...namely this one.
>
> Eric Marth's videos have inspired me to add more shiny brass bits to my 
> bikes, but without sending $5 per brass bolt! Instead, I had some leftover 
> brass wire (several hundred feet!) from a little art project I finished 
> several years ago now, and I have also always wanted to try the twine wrap 
> on the newbaums. In this case, I didn't want to buy some twine and figured 
> "Hey, I've got this narrow gauge brass wire, lets try that on my chainstay 
> wrap in case it turns out like crap." This was the result (with 2 year old 
> newbaums):
> [image: PXL_20221025_011343607 (1).jpg]
>
> Not the cleanest result, but the brass obviously has less twine-like 
> properties and forces a much tighter wrap and is less forgiving in the 
> final look. The final step of bringing the knot under the wrap is also a 
> bit of a nuance and is not as "clean," although I'm hoping to improve it 
> with some more attempts. For those curious, a 1.5m length piece of this 
> wire is 2.5g.
>
> I'm also going to try using brass washers under my stainless bolts to add 
> a bit of shiny to an otherwise mundane fastener...and those are only $0.10 
> a piece!
>
> Cheers,
> Collin, "fools gold" in Sacramento
>

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