Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

['clayton bailey' via RBW Owners Bunch]

On Friday, August 11, 2017 11:35 AM, "Justin, Oakland" 
 wrote:
 

 Clayton:
This may appeal to you. 
https://paulcomp.com/shop/components/sram-shifter-adaptor/

-J

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks for the tip J. I  run my drop bars very high so I can be in the 
drops most of the time.  I tried the Paul adapter but didn't like the fact 
the shifter was so far away from where my hands normally were. The only 
place I could find on my WTB drop bars for that adapter was up top near the 
stem. This mount works perfectly for my needs. 
 

> Clayton:
> This may appeal to you. 
> https://paulcomp.com/shop/components/sram-shifter-adaptor/
>
> -J
>

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

[Justin, Oakland]

Clayton:
This may appeal to you. 
https://paulcomp.com/shop/components/sram-shifter-adaptor/

-J

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

>
>
> 
> To answer Irreguleur's question:  One of the biggest advantages to getting 
> rid of the front derailleur are;  Weight. You are getting rid of a shifter, 
> the front derailleur, one or two chainrings and their bolts, and cables and 
> housing. You also never have to worry about cross chaining, chain drop, 
> front cable replacement, multiple ring replacements or listening to your 
> chain on bumpy terrain when you accidently have your chain in the small, 
> small. My son gave me a new 1X11 SramXX group for Christmas and I have not 
> missed my front derailleur at all. I put a little deer antler crown on my 
> unused downtube shifter mount to protect my leg. I had to make a few 
> changes to how the shifter mounts on drop bars, but I am quite happy with 
> my ergonomic changes. It is easier to operate from the drops than brifters. 
> If I had the money, I might consider getting Srams single ring road gruppo. 
>

Clayton (Bendite) 

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

[Bill Lindsay]

Thanks for that endorsement of the crankset.  My 1x11 parts are Shimano XT 
which is also pretty affordable.  I think I'll keep the 2x10 running until 
after I'm finished with my 200 miles on 10 bikes challenge.  

BL in EC

On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 3:53:04 PM UTC-7, Keith Muller wrote:
>
> Bill and all,
>
> I've been really pleased with the M30 Crankset.  Definitely a great option 
> for your MTB.
>
> After some riding.  The gear range is more than appropriate for the riding 
> that I do.  I think the Eagle GX is a great budget option for people, but 
> there are fewer hub options because of the XD driver body.  
>
> The gear range is in no way limiting.  I do acknowledge that the Eagle XX1 
> kit is expensive, if I was on a tighter budget, I would go with the Eagle 
> GX kit.  Durability we will see about.  I did run a 11-speed XX1 kit on my 
> MTB and had no issues on the durability front.  
>
> As for wheel dish.  The has the exact same dish as any modern cassette 
> body hub.  OLD on the rear hub is 135mm.  The way the cassette is designed, 
> the last couple cogs are dished in over the drive-side hub flange.  
>
> As always, gearing is a personal preference in some regards.  This setup 
> works really well for me and my needs/desires.  Simplified on the gear 
> selection, choices are 1-12.  Less parts to deal with, and a cleaner setup 
> in my eyes.
>
> Keith
>
> On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 9:26:47 PM UTC, Keith Muller wrote:
>>
>> Hey all!
>>
>> So I upgraded the drivetrain on my Hunqapillar with a new SRAM Eagle XX1 
>> Kit and a White Industries M30 Crank w/ 38T Ring.  I must say it's solid 
>> setup.  I'm excited to get out and do some bike packing with it.  I was 
>> comparing gear inches on this setup with the touring setup on my Atlantis. 
>>  I lost a little on the top end that I rarely ever us, But I was able to 
>> match the low end.  So far I'm happy with the setup.  A few loaded trips 
>> will give me the full story.  I've posted some data below for the bike 
>> nerds out there.
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> Bike Hunqapillar Atlantis
>> Chainrings 38T 47/36/26T
>> Cassette 10-50T 12 Spd 11-34T 9 Spd
>> Gear Inch Comparison
>>
>> Hunq Atlantis
>> 38 47 36 26
>> 10 110.54 11 *123.7* 94.7 68.4
>> 12 92.21 13 104.6 80.1 57.9
>> 14 78.83 15 90.7 69.5 50.2
>> 16 69.23 17 80 61.3 44.3
>> 18 61.38 20 68 52.1 37.6
>> 21 52.65 23 59.1 45.3 32.7
>> 24 45.96 26 52.3 40.1 28.9
>> 28 39.56 30 45.3 34.7 25.1
>> 32 34.61 34 40 30.6 *22.1*
>> 36 30.83 
>> 42 26.18 
>> 50 22.11 
>> Speed Comparison - Based on a 29 X 2.3 Tire pedaling at 90rpms
>>
>> Hunq Atlantis
>> Mph Mph
>> Highest Gear 29.6 Highest Gear 33.3
>> Lowest Gear 5.9 Lowest Gear 5.9
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

[Keith Muller]

Bill and all,

I've been really pleased with the M30 Crankset.  Definitely a great option 
for your MTB.

After some riding.  The gear range is more than appropriate for the riding 
that I do.  I think the Eagle GX is a great budget option for people, but 
there are fewer hub options because of the XD driver body.  

The gear range is in no way limiting.  I do acknowledge that the Eagle XX1 
kit is expensive, if I was on a tighter budget, I would go with the Eagle 
GX kit.  Durability we will see about.  I did run a 11-speed XX1 kit on my 
MTB and had no issues on the durability front.  

As for wheel dish.  The has the exact same dish as any modern cassette body 
hub.  OLD on the rear hub is 135mm.  The way the cassette is designed, the 
last couple cogs are dished in over the drive-side hub flange.  

As always, gearing is a personal preference in some regards.  This setup 
works really well for me and my needs/desires.  Simplified on the gear 
selection, choices are 1-12.  Less parts to deal with, and a cleaner setup 
in my eyes.

Keith

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 9:26:47 PM UTC, Keith Muller wrote:
>
> Hey all!
>
> So I upgraded the drivetrain on my Hunqapillar with a new SRAM Eagle XX1 
> Kit and a White Industries M30 Crank w/ 38T Ring.  I must say it's solid 
> setup.  I'm excited to get out and do some bike packing with it.  I was 
> comparing gear inches on this setup with the touring setup on my Atlantis. 
>  I lost a little on the top end that I rarely ever us, But I was able to 
> match the low end.  So far I'm happy with the setup.  A few loaded trips 
> will give me the full story.  I've posted some data below for the bike 
> nerds out there.
>
> Keith
>
> Bike Hunqapillar Atlantis
> Chainrings 38T 47/36/26T
> Cassette 10-50T 12 Spd 11-34T 9 Spd
> Gear Inch Comparison
>
> Hunq Atlantis
> 38 47 36 26
> 10 110.54 11 *123.7* 94.7 68.4
> 12 92.21 13 104.6 80.1 57.9
> 14 78.83 15 90.7 69.5 50.2
> 16 69.23 17 80 61.3 44.3
> 18 61.38 20 68 52.1 37.6
> 21 52.65 23 59.1 45.3 32.7
> 24 45.96 26 52.3 40.1 28.9
> 28 39.56 30 45.3 34.7 25.1
> 32 34.61 34 40 30.6 *22.1*
> 36 30.83 
> 42 26.18 
> 50 22.11 
> Speed Comparison - Based on a 29 X 2.3 Tire pedaling at 90rpms
>
> Hunq Atlantis
> Mph Mph
> Highest Gear 29.6 Highest Gear 33.3
> Lowest Gear 5.9 Lowest Gear 5.9
>

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

[Irreguleur]

Should've mentioned that it looks wicked cool at first glance too!

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

[Irreguleur]

I'm relatively new to the group, and as such may have missed a past thread 
on the topic - but what are the benefits to a 1x setup? They seem to be 
rising in popularity, yet at first glance it seems limiting and expensive. 
Is the rear wheel dished more? How does that effect longevity? Is it worth 
not having a second shifter? What am I missing...

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

[Geeter]

That is awesome.  My Jones has an XT 1x11 kit and I love the 
triple/friction setup on my Hunq but the application for the Eagle seems 
real.  

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 7:54:10 PM UTC-5, Jay Connolly wrote:
>
> I've been tempted to put the Eagle groupset on my Jones, but lately I've 
> spent all my money on Rivs. The new Eagle GX will be in out in the fall, I 
> think.
>
> Jay
>

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

[Jay Connolly]

I've been tempted to put the Eagle groupset on my Jones, but lately I've spent 
all my money on Rivs. The new Eagle GX will be in out in the fall, I think.

Jay

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

[dougP]

Keith:

Somehow I doubt you'll miss the top gear.  Given the 500% spread on the 
cassette, I'd be tempted toward an even smaller chainring, but that's from 
an old guy who has been known to push his bike up hills.  Be interesting to 
hear about the longevity of the chain.  

dougP

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 2:26:47 PM UTC-7, Keith Muller wrote:
>
> Hey all!
>
> So I upgraded the drivetrain on my Hunqapillar with a new SRAM Eagle XX1 
> Kit and a White Industries M30 Crank w/ 38T Ring.  I must say it's solid 
> setup.  I'm excited to get out and do some bike packing with it.  I was 
> comparing gear inches on this setup with the touring setup on my Atlantis. 
>  I lost a little on the top end that I rarely ever us, But I was able to 
> match the low end.  So far I'm happy with the setup.  A few loaded trips 
> will give me the full story.  I've posted some data below for the bike 
> nerds out there.
>
> Keith
>
> Bike Hunqapillar Atlantis
> Chainrings 38T 47/36/26T
> Cassette 10-50T 12 Spd 11-34T 9 Spd
> Gear Inch Comparison
>
> Hunq 
> Atlantis
>
> 38 
>
> 47 36 26
> 10 110.54 
> 11 *123.7* 94.7 68.4
> 12 92.21 
> 13 104.6 80.1 57.9
> 14 78.83 
> 15 90.7 69.5 50.2
> 16 69.23 
> 17 80 61.3 44.3
> 18 61.38 
> 20 68 52.1 37.6
> 21 52.65 
> 23 59.1 45.3 32.7
> 24 45.96 
> 26 52.3 40.1 28.9
> 28 39.56 
> 30 45.3 34.7 25.1
> 32 34.61 
> 34 40 30.6 *22.1*
> 36 30.83 
>
>
>
>
> 42 26.18 
>
>
>
>
> 50 22.11 
>
>
>
>
>
> Speed Comparison - Based on a 29 X 2.3 Tire pedaling at 90rpms
>
> Hunq 
> Atlantis
>
> Mph 
>
> Mph
> Highest Gear 29.6 
> Highest Gear 33.3
> Lowest Gear 5.9 
> Lowest Gear 5.9
>

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Drivetrain Upgrade

[Bill Lindsay]

110 gear inches is plenty for most people.  Jan is a stronger rider than 
99% of people, and he claims he has never been dropped on a descent due to 
not having a high enough gear, and his top gear is 90 gear inches.  48x14. 
 By my reckoning you lost nothing by losing your 123 inch gear.  You 
discarded the correct part of your gear chart, IMO.

I'm about to run that M30 crankset on my mountain bike.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 2:26:47 PM UTC-7, Keith Muller wrote:
>
> Hey all!
>
> So I upgraded the drivetrain on my Hunqapillar with a new SRAM Eagle XX1 
> Kit and a White Industries M30 Crank w/ 38T Ring.  I must say it's solid 
> setup.  I'm excited to get out and do some bike packing with it.  I was 
> comparing gear inches on this setup with the touring setup on my Atlantis. 
>  I lost a little on the top end that I rarely ever us, But I was able to 
> match the low end.  So far I'm happy with the setup.  A few loaded trips 
> will give me the full story.  I've posted some data below for the bike 
> nerds out there.
>
> Keith
>
> Bike Hunqapillar Atlantis
> Chainrings 38T 47/36/26T
> Cassette 10-50T 12 Spd 11-34T 9 Spd
> Gear Inch Comparison
>
> Hunq Atlantis
> 38 47 36 26
> 10 110.54 11 *123.7* 94.7 68.4
> 12 92.21 13 104.6 80.1 57.9
> 14 78.83 15 90.7 69.5 50.2
> 16 69.23 17 80 61.3 44.3
> 18 61.38 20 68 52.1 37.6
> 21 52.65 23 59.1 45.3 32.7
> 24 45.96 26 52.3 40.1 28.9
> 28 39.56 30 45.3 34.7 25.1
> 32 34.61 34 40 30.6 *22.1*
> 36 30.83 
> 42 26.18 
> 50 22.11 
> Speed Comparison - Based on a 29 X 2.3 Tire pedaling at 90rpms
>
> Hunq Atlantis
> Mph Mph
> Highest Gear 29.6 Highest Gear 33.3
> Lowest Gear 5.9 Lowest Gear 5.9
>

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