Re: [RBW] Re: Knobbie tire fender challenge

[Eric Daume]

Back in the 90s, Acerbis had plastic motocross style fenders that stuck out
over the rear wheel, but I can't find those anymore.

How about this Zefal model

?

Or this PDW mud fender

?

Eric



On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 9:37 PM, Brian Campbell 
wrote:

> Maybe something like this:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mountain-Bike-Clip-On-Fender-
> Mud-Guard-Set-Front-Rear-29er-27-5-29-650B-/192164719696?
> hash=item2cbde8ec50:g:O20AAOSwPhdVUQ-o
>
> Possibly drill holes in it and zip tie it to the inside of the rear rack
> (no stays) with an odl inner tube between= the the fender and attachment
> points?
>
> On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 7:44:45 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Oh, I understand it gives more coverage in the front. I'm good there. And
>> I've tried that style of rear and it doesn't work for me. Thanks again!
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 5:33:41 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> I think mine, which actually mounts under the crown and fits over the
>>> tire and turns with it, would give you more coverage; you could combine it
>>> with the dt mounted one.
>>>
>>> The rear straps to the seatpost and keeps the stuff off your saddle and
>>> back.
>>>
>>> Yours if you want them, but certainly no obligation.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, Patrick! Actually, that gives roughly the coverage I have, so
 I'll pass, with gratitude for the offer.

 Thanks, Steven. I've had similar. Full fenders like that work great
 until the singletrack or the uber sloppy, then the detrius from the
 knobbies is both noisy and cloggy, at least for me.

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 12:03:37 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I’ve yet to find a good answer to the challenge of a rear fender that
> is 1) effective; 2) beefy; 3) quiet; 4) allows duff and twigs and mud and
> snow to flow through. This is with my Hunqapillar, 2.1” Racing Ralphs on
> all terrains and all weathers.
>
> I’m not looking for for perfect protection, but to protect against
> rooster tail at 20-35mph in the slop.
>
> I use the SKS Mud-X downtube fender for the front. It doesn’t keep my
> front dry or drive train and feet clean, but it does keep 99% of the mud
> off my face and glasses.  https://www.amazon.com/gp/pro
> duct/B000X5ZK6Q/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8=1
>
> Until today, I’d been using a Woody fender Chop Chort (with added
> stays for rigidity) on the rear. The stay died to a twig as I LCG’d. The
> ride home was much quieter — the sound I’d been puzzling over for the past
> month gone despite all hardware being tight. Being shorter than a full 
> rear
> fender it only marginally works better against rooster tail, so minimal
> benefit vs the toursacks on the rear rack being a partial fender.
> https://www.woodysfenders.com/category-s/116.htm
>
> So, my plan is to use the toursacks as my fender and call that as good
> as I’ll get unless something you all know of fits the bill. Ideas?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.CredoFamily.org
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Knobbie tire fender challenge

[Brian Campbell]

Maybe something like this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mountain-Bike-Clip-On-Fender-Mud-Guard-Set-Front-Rear-29er-27-5-29-650B-/192164719696?hash=item2cbde8ec50:g:O20AAOSwPhdVUQ-o

Possibly drill holes in it and zip tie it to the inside of the rear rack 
(no stays) with an odl inner tube between= the the fender and attachment 
points?

On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 7:44:45 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Oh, I understand it gives more coverage in the front. I'm good there. And 
> I've tried that style of rear and it doesn't work for me. Thanks again!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 5:33:41 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I think mine, which actually mounts under the crown and fits over the 
>> tire and turns with it, would give you more coverage; you could combine it 
>> with the dt mounted one.
>>
>> The rear straps to the seatpost and keeps the stuff off your saddle and 
>> back.
>>
>> Yours if you want them, but certainly no obligation.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Patrick! Actually, that gives roughly the coverage I have, so 
>>> I'll pass, with gratitude for the offer.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Steven. I've had similar. Full fenders like that work great 
>>> until the singletrack or the uber sloppy, then the detrius from the 
>>> knobbies is both noisy and cloggy, at least for me.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 12:03:37 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I’ve yet to find a good answer to the challenge of a rear fender that 
 is 1) effective; 2) beefy; 3) quiet; 4) allows duff and twigs and mud and 
 snow to flow through. This is with my Hunqapillar, 2.1” Racing Ralphs on 
 all terrains and all weathers.

 I’m not looking for for perfect protection, but to protect against 
 rooster tail at 20-35mph in the slop.

 I use the SKS Mud-X downtube fender for the front. It doesn’t keep my 
 front dry or drive train and feet clean, but it does keep 99% of the mud 
 off my face and glasses.  
 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000X5ZK6Q/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8=1
   

 Until today, I’d been using a Woody fender Chop Chort (with added stays 
 for rigidity) on the rear. The stay died to a twig as I LCG’d. The ride 
 home was much quieter — the sound I’d been puzzling over for the past 
 month 
 gone despite all hardware being tight. Being shorter than a full rear 
 fender it only marginally works better against rooster tail, so minimal 
 benefit vs the toursacks on the rear rack being a partial fender.
 https://www.woodysfenders.com/category-s/116.htm

 So, my plan is to use the toursacks as my fender and call that as good 
 as I’ll get unless something you all know of fits the bill. Ideas?

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 www.CredoFamily.org
 www.MindYourHeadCoop.org


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Re: [RBW] Re: Knobbie tire fender challenge

[Patrick Moore]

Good luck. Keep your backside clean.

On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Oh, I understand it gives more coverage in the front. I'm good there. And
> I've tried that style of rear and it doesn't work for me. Thanks again!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 5:33:41 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I think mine, which actually mounts under the crown and fits over the
>> tire and turns with it, would give you more coverage; you could combine it
>> with the dt mounted one.
>>
>> The rear straps to the seatpost and keeps the stuff off your saddle and
>> back.
>>
>> Yours if you want them, but certainly no obligation.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Patrick! Actually, that gives roughly the coverage I have, so
>>> I'll pass, with gratitude for the offer.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Steven. I've had similar. Full fenders like that work great
>>> until the singletrack or the uber sloppy, then the detrius from the
>>> knobbies is both noisy and cloggy, at least for me.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 12:03:37 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I’ve yet to find a good answer to the challenge of a rear fender that
 is 1) effective; 2) beefy; 3) quiet; 4) allows duff and twigs and mud and
 snow to flow through. This is with my Hunqapillar, 2.1” Racing Ralphs on
 all terrains and all weathers.

 I’m not looking for for perfect protection, but to protect against
 rooster tail at 20-35mph in the slop.

 I use the SKS Mud-X downtube fender for the front. It doesn’t keep my
 front dry or drive train and feet clean, but it does keep 99% of the mud
 off my face and glasses.  https://www.amazon.com/gp/pro
 duct/B000X5ZK6Q/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8=1

 Until today, I’d been using a Woody fender Chop Chort (with added stays
 for rigidity) on the rear. The stay died to a twig as I LCG’d. The ride
 home was much quieter — the sound I’d been puzzling over for the past month
 gone despite all hardware being tight. Being shorter than a full rear
 fender it only marginally works better against rooster tail, so minimal
 benefit vs the toursacks on the rear rack being a partial fender.
 https://www.woodysfenders.com/category-s/116.htm

 So, my plan is to use the toursacks as my fender and call that as good
 as I’ll get unless something you all know of fits the bill. Ideas?

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 www.CredoFamily.org
 www.MindYourHeadCoop.org


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Re: [RBW] Re: Knobbie tire fender challenge

[Deacon Patrick]

Oh, I understand it gives more coverage in the front. I'm good there. And 
I've tried that style of rear and it doesn't work for me. Thanks again!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 5:33:41 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I think mine, which actually mounts under the crown and fits over the tire 
> and turns with it, would give you more coverage; you could combine it with 
> the dt mounted one.
>
> The rear straps to the seatpost and keeps the stuff off your saddle and 
> back.
>
> Yours if you want them, but certainly no obligation.
>
> On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Deacon Patrick  > wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Patrick! Actually, that gives roughly the coverage I have, so 
>> I'll pass, with gratitude for the offer.
>>
>> Thanks, Steven. I've had similar. Full fenders like that work great until 
>> the singletrack or the uber sloppy, then the detrius from the knobbies is 
>> both noisy and cloggy, at least for me.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 12:03:37 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> I’ve yet to find a good answer to the challenge of a rear fender that is 
>>> 1) effective; 2) beefy; 3) quiet; 4) allows duff and twigs and mud and snow 
>>> to flow through. This is with my Hunqapillar, 2.1” Racing Ralphs on all 
>>> terrains and all weathers.
>>>
>>> I’m not looking for for perfect protection, but to protect against 
>>> rooster tail at 20-35mph in the slop.
>>>
>>> I use the SKS Mud-X downtube fender for the front. It doesn’t keep my 
>>> front dry or drive train and feet clean, but it does keep 99% of the mud 
>>> off my face and glasses.  
>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000X5ZK6Q/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8=1
>>>   
>>>
>>> Until today, I’d been using a Woody fender Chop Chort (with added stays 
>>> for rigidity) on the rear. The stay died to a twig as I LCG’d. The ride 
>>> home was much quieter — the sound I’d been puzzling over for the past month 
>>> gone despite all hardware being tight. Being shorter than a full rear 
>>> fender it only marginally works better against rooster tail, so minimal 
>>> benefit vs the toursacks on the rear rack being a partial fender.
>>> https://www.woodysfenders.com/category-s/116.htm
>>>
>>> So, my plan is to use the toursacks as my fender and call that as good 
>>> as I’ll get unless something you all know of fits the bill. Ideas?
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> www.CredoFamily.org
>>> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Knobbie tire fender challenge

[Patrick Moore]

I think mine, which actually mounts under the crown and fits over the tire
and turns with it, would give you more coverage; you could combine it with
the dt mounted one.

The rear straps to the seatpost and keeps the stuff off your saddle and
back.

Yours if you want them, but certainly no obligation.

On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Thanks, Patrick! Actually, that gives roughly the coverage I have, so I'll
> pass, with gratitude for the offer.
>
> Thanks, Steven. I've had similar. Full fenders like that work great until
> the singletrack or the uber sloppy, then the detrius from the knobbies is
> both noisy and cloggy, at least for me.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
> On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 12:03:37 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> I’ve yet to find a good answer to the challenge of a rear fender that is
>> 1) effective; 2) beefy; 3) quiet; 4) allows duff and twigs and mud and snow
>> to flow through. This is with my Hunqapillar, 2.1” Racing Ralphs on all
>> terrains and all weathers.
>>
>> I’m not looking for for perfect protection, but to protect against
>> rooster tail at 20-35mph in the slop.
>>
>> I use the SKS Mud-X downtube fender for the front. It doesn’t keep my
>> front dry or drive train and feet clean, but it does keep 99% of the mud
>> off my face and glasses.  https://www.amazon.com/gp/pro
>> duct/B000X5ZK6Q/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8=1
>>
>> Until today, I’d been using a Woody fender Chop Chort (with added stays
>> for rigidity) on the rear. The stay died to a twig as I LCG’d. The ride
>> home was much quieter — the sound I’d been puzzling over for the past month
>> gone despite all hardware being tight. Being shorter than a full rear
>> fender it only marginally works better against rooster tail, so minimal
>> benefit vs the toursacks on the rear rack being a partial fender.
>> https://www.woodysfenders.com/category-s/116.htm
>>
>> So, my plan is to use the toursacks as my fender and call that as good as
>> I’ll get unless something you all know of fits the bill. Ideas?
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> www.CredoFamily.org
>> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Knobbie tire fender challenge

[Jay Connolly]

I use Dave's Mud Shovels, front and rear, on my MTB. Overkill, perhaps, but 
they get the job done.

Jay

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[RBW] Re: Knobbie tire fender challenge

[Deacon Patrick]

Thanks, Patrick! Actually, that gives roughly the coverage I have, so I'll 
pass, with gratitude for the offer.

Thanks, Steven. I've had similar. Full fenders like that work great until 
the singletrack or the uber sloppy, then the detrius from the knobbies is 
both noisy and cloggy, at least for me.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 12:03:37 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I’ve yet to find a good answer to the challenge of a rear fender that is 
> 1) effective; 2) beefy; 3) quiet; 4) allows duff and twigs and mud and snow 
> to flow through. This is with my Hunqapillar, 2.1” Racing Ralphs on all 
> terrains and all weathers.
>
> I’m not looking for for perfect protection, but to protect against rooster 
> tail at 20-35mph in the slop.
>
> I use the SKS Mud-X downtube fender for the front. It doesn’t keep my 
> front dry or drive train and feet clean, but it does keep 99% of the mud 
> off my face and glasses.  
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000X5ZK6Q/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8=1
>   
>
> Until today, I’d been using a Woody fender Chop Chort (with added stays 
> for rigidity) on the rear. The stay died to a twig as I LCG’d. The ride 
> home was much quieter — the sound I’d been puzzling over for the past month 
> gone despite all hardware being tight. Being shorter than a full rear 
> fender it only marginally works better against rooster tail, so minimal 
> benefit vs the toursacks on the rear rack being a partial fender.
> https://www.woodysfenders.com/category-s/116.htm
>
> So, my plan is to use the toursacks as my fender and call that as good as 
> I’ll get unless something you all know of fits the bill. Ideas?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.CredoFamily.org
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
>
>
>

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