[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Pam Bikes]

I rode the Monarchs for a while but the bearings wore out and instead of 
rebuilding them I swapped them for cheap platforms like the ones from the 
Clems.  I think they are grippier than the Monarchs (not as pretty and the 
bearings aren't as smooth).  Not a guy so I wear Five Fingers in the summer 
and Uggs in the winter.Any shoe works but not a leather sole.  I got a new 
pair of Xero sandals and some Altras I'll try this year and also Sorels for 
cold/wet weather.

On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 10:17:56 PM UTC-5 Jeffrey Arita wrote:

> Adam,
>
> I purchased the Trailcross shoes early last year in preparation for some 
> bikepacking adventures + flat pedals.  Did not go on any extended 
> adventures but I did ride the shoes a *lot *on day rides.  Very, very 
> nice in hot weather.  While wading through streams the shoes dried out 
> quickly.  The Five Ten sole really gripped any kind of flat pedal - 
> sometimes too well as it made it difficult to move my foot while pedaling.  
> Hike-a-biking was good too as the sole at the toe gripped inclines well.  
> My only gripe is they are definitely *not *cold weather shoes (like 
> today) ;)
>
> Good luck,
>
> Jeff
> Claremont, CA
>
> On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 6:22:47 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>
>> Thanks again all, Thought I'd post a follow up for what it's worth.
>>
>> I went with the Five Ten Trailcross - a newish model with mesh upper, and 
>> a little more walking/hiking traction in the sole. So far, I like them, 
>> though I haven't seen how they'll do in more extreme conditions. They're 
>> great for a little wet, cold, muddy. I had to hike-a-bike over some steep 
>> crumbly sections and they held up well for that.
>>
>> Several folks above mentioned the toe box being small/narrow, and I 
>> agree. I have wideish feet and these are right on the threshold of not 
>> working for me, especially with thicker socks. That said, I did a long ride 
>> in them today with thick wool socks and everything was comfy, just a bit 
>> tight.
>>
>> I think the breathability will be amazing once it's not so cold.
>>
>> anyway, thanks all for the recommendations, there were lots of good ideas 
>> on here, very helpful.
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 6:10:50 PM UTC-5 Robert Hakim wrote:
>>
>>> I bought a pair of these :
>>>
>>> https://www.specialized.com/us/en/2fo-flat-2-0-mountain-bike-shoes/p/155830?color=237107-155830=61119-6237
>>> And I quite like them. They're a bit warm in the summer but are stiff, 
>>> comfortable, durable and shed reasonable amounts of water. 
>>>
>>> I bought mine last year, they had better color options- i.e. not super 
>>> bright and not white. 
>>>
>>> -Robert
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 4:12:36 PM UTC-5 Joe M. wrote:
>>>
 I prefer Altra Lone Peaks for when I'm going on dirt and Vans slip ons 
 for pavement riding. Both these shoes feel good on my MKS Monarch/Gamma 
 pedals.

 On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 5:36:32 PM UTC-8 David Person wrote:

> +1 on the Five Ten Freeriders.  Grippy and long lasting soles.  Pedal 
> pins don't tear them up.
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 2:15:19 AM UTC-8 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>
>> I prefer Five Ten Freeriders for biking - all my bikes have flats - 
>> with the suede/mesh uppers and the rigid + grippy stealth rubber soles. 
>> MSRP is $100 but can be had for as low as $60 when they go on sale. My 
>> experience with Freeriders is they break in well and can take a beating. 
>> For a change of pace, I also wear low cut Vans with waffle soles, laces, 
>> and suede/canvas uppers (Berle Pro, BMX, Old Skool).
>>
>> --Ed C.
>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
>>> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>>>
>>> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of 
>>> years, but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to 
>>> retire. I tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting 
>>> around 
>>> from a few years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the 
>>> rigidity, 
>>> the grip doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>>>
>>> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
>>> running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
>>> bother me all those years.
>>>
>>> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, 
>>> and reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>>>
>>> Thanks for your thoughts!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Jeffrey Arita]

Adam,

I purchased the Trailcross shoes early last year in preparation for some 
bikepacking adventures + flat pedals.  Did not go on any extended 
adventures but I did ride the shoes a *lot *on day rides.  Very, very nice 
in hot weather.  While wading through streams the shoes dried out quickly.  
The Five Ten sole really gripped any kind of flat pedal - sometimes too 
well as it made it difficult to move my foot while pedaling.  Hike-a-biking 
was good too as the sole at the toe gripped inclines well.  My only gripe 
is they are definitely *not *cold weather shoes (like today) ;)

Good luck,

Jeff
Claremont, CA

On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 6:22:47 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:

> Thanks again all, Thought I'd post a follow up for what it's worth.
>
> I went with the Five Ten Trailcross - a newish model with mesh upper, and 
> a little more walking/hiking traction in the sole. So far, I like them, 
> though I haven't seen how they'll do in more extreme conditions. They're 
> great for a little wet, cold, muddy. I had to hike-a-bike over some steep 
> crumbly sections and they held up well for that.
>
> Several folks above mentioned the toe box being small/narrow, and I agree. 
> I have wideish feet and these are right on the threshold of not working for 
> me, especially with thicker socks. That said, I did a long ride in them 
> today with thick wool socks and everything was comfy, just a bit tight.
>
> I think the breathability will be amazing once it's not so cold.
>
> anyway, thanks all for the recommendations, there were lots of good ideas 
> on here, very helpful.
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 6:10:50 PM UTC-5 Robert Hakim wrote:
>
>> I bought a pair of these :
>>
>> https://www.specialized.com/us/en/2fo-flat-2-0-mountain-bike-shoes/p/155830?color=237107-155830=61119-6237
>> And I quite like them. They're a bit warm in the summer but are stiff, 
>> comfortable, durable and shed reasonable amounts of water. 
>>
>> I bought mine last year, they had better color options- i.e. not super 
>> bright and not white. 
>>
>> -Robert
>>
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 4:12:36 PM UTC-5 Joe M. wrote:
>>
>>> I prefer Altra Lone Peaks for when I'm going on dirt and Vans slip ons 
>>> for pavement riding. Both these shoes feel good on my MKS Monarch/Gamma 
>>> pedals.
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 5:36:32 PM UTC-8 David Person wrote:
>>>
 +1 on the Five Ten Freeriders.  Grippy and long lasting soles.  Pedal 
 pins don't tear them up.

 On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 2:15:19 AM UTC-8 Ed Carolipio wrote:

> I prefer Five Ten Freeriders for biking - all my bikes have flats - 
> with the suede/mesh uppers and the rigid + grippy stealth rubber soles. 
> MSRP is $100 but can be had for as low as $60 when they go on sale. My 
> experience with Freeriders is they break in well and can take a beating. 
> For a change of pace, I also wear low cut Vans with waffle soles, laces, 
> and suede/canvas uppers (Berle Pro, BMX, Old Skool).
>
> --Ed C.
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
>> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>>
>> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of 
>> years, but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to 
>> retire. I tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting 
>> around 
>> from a few years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, 
>> the grip doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>>
>> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
>> running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
>> bother me all those years.
>>
>> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
>> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Adam]

Thanks again all, Thought I'd post a follow up for what it's worth.

I went with the Five Ten Trailcross - a newish model with mesh upper, and a 
little more walking/hiking traction in the sole. So far, I like them, 
though I haven't seen how they'll do in more extreme conditions. They're 
great for a little wet, cold, muddy. I had to hike-a-bike over some steep 
crumbly sections and they held up well for that.

Several folks above mentioned the toe box being small/narrow, and I agree. 
I have wideish feet and these are right on the threshold of not working for 
me, especially with thicker socks. That said, I did a long ride in them 
today with thick wool socks and everything was comfy, just a bit tight.

I think the breathability will be amazing once it's not so cold.

anyway, thanks all for the recommendations, there were lots of good ideas 
on here, very helpful.
On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 6:10:50 PM UTC-5 Robert Hakim wrote:

> I bought a pair of these :
>
> https://www.specialized.com/us/en/2fo-flat-2-0-mountain-bike-shoes/p/155830?color=237107-155830=61119-6237
> And I quite like them. They're a bit warm in the summer but are stiff, 
> comfortable, durable and shed reasonable amounts of water. 
>
> I bought mine last year, they had better color options- i.e. not super 
> bright and not white. 
>
> -Robert
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 4:12:36 PM UTC-5 Joe M. wrote:
>
>> I prefer Altra Lone Peaks for when I'm going on dirt and Vans slip ons 
>> for pavement riding. Both these shoes feel good on my MKS Monarch/Gamma 
>> pedals.
>>
>> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 5:36:32 PM UTC-8 David Person wrote:
>>
>>> +1 on the Five Ten Freeriders.  Grippy and long lasting soles.  Pedal 
>>> pins don't tear them up.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 2:15:19 AM UTC-8 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>>>
 I prefer Five Ten Freeriders for biking - all my bikes have flats - 
 with the suede/mesh uppers and the rigid + grippy stealth rubber soles. 
 MSRP is $100 but can be had for as low as $60 when they go on sale. My 
 experience with Freeriders is they break in well and can take a beating. 
 For a change of pace, I also wear low cut Vans with waffle soles, laces, 
 and suede/canvas uppers (Berle Pro, BMX, Old Skool).

 --Ed C.
 On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>
> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of 
> years, but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to 
> retire. I tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting 
> around 
> from a few years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, 
> the grip doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>
> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
> running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
> bother me all those years.
>
> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>
> Thanks for your thoughts!
>


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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Robert Hakim]

I bought a pair of these :
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/2fo-flat-2-0-mountain-bike-shoes/p/155830?color=237107-155830=61119-6237
And I quite like them. They're a bit warm in the summer but are stiff, 
comfortable, durable and shed reasonable amounts of water. 

I bought mine last year, they had better color options- i.e. not super 
bright and not white. 

-Robert

On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 4:12:36 PM UTC-5 Joe M. wrote:

> I prefer Altra Lone Peaks for when I'm going on dirt and Vans slip ons for 
> pavement riding. Both these shoes feel good on my MKS Monarch/Gamma pedals.
>
> On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 5:36:32 PM UTC-8 David Person wrote:
>
>> +1 on the Five Ten Freeriders.  Grippy and long lasting soles.  Pedal 
>> pins don't tear them up.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 2:15:19 AM UTC-8 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>>
>>> I prefer Five Ten Freeriders for biking - all my bikes have flats - with 
>>> the suede/mesh uppers and the rigid + grippy stealth rubber soles. MSRP is 
>>> $100 but can be had for as low as $60 when they go on sale. My experience 
>>> with Freeriders is they break in well and can take a beating. For a change 
>>> of pace, I also wear low cut Vans with waffle soles, laces, and 
>>> suede/canvas uppers (Berle Pro, BMX, Old Skool).
>>>
>>> --Ed C.
>>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>>>

 Hi all,

 I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
 people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.

 I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
 but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
 tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a 
 few 
 years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
 doesn't hold up when they're wet.

 I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
 running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
 bother me all those years.

 So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
 reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)

 Thanks for your thoughts!

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Joe M.]

I prefer Altra Lone Peaks for when I'm going on dirt and Vans slip ons for 
pavement riding. Both these shoes feel good on my MKS Monarch/Gamma pedals.

On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 5:36:32 PM UTC-8 David Person wrote:

> +1 on the Five Ten Freeriders.  Grippy and long lasting soles.  Pedal pins 
> don't tear them up.
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 2:15:19 AM UTC-8 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>
>> I prefer Five Ten Freeriders for biking - all my bikes have flats - with 
>> the suede/mesh uppers and the rigid + grippy stealth rubber soles. MSRP is 
>> $100 but can be had for as low as $60 when they go on sale. My experience 
>> with Freeriders is they break in well and can take a beating. For a change 
>> of pace, I also wear low cut Vans with waffle soles, laces, and 
>> suede/canvas uppers (Berle Pro, BMX, Old Skool).
>>
>> --Ed C.
>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
>>> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>>>
>>> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
>>> but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
>>> tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a few 
>>> years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
>>> doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>>>
>>> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
>>> running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
>>> bother me all those years.
>>>
>>> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
>>> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>>>
>>> Thanks for your thoughts!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[David Person]

+1 on the Five Ten Freeriders.  Grippy and long lasting soles.  Pedal pins 
don't tear them up.

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 2:15:19 AM UTC-8 Ed Carolipio wrote:

> I prefer Five Ten Freeriders for biking - all my bikes have flats - with 
> the suede/mesh uppers and the rigid + grippy stealth rubber soles. MSRP is 
> $100 but can be had for as low as $60 when they go on sale. My experience 
> with Freeriders is they break in well and can take a beating. For a change 
> of pace, I also wear low cut Vans with waffle soles, laces, and 
> suede/canvas uppers (Berle Pro, BMX, Old Skool).
>
> --Ed C.
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
>> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>>
>> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
>> but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
>> tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a few 
>> years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
>> doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>>
>> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
>> running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
>> bother me all those years.
>>
>> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
>> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Robb]

Shimano SH-SD500 cycling sandal. I have two pairs, one without cleats for 
platforms (Grip Kings & Crank Brothers Stamp) and the other with cleats for 
Crank Brother Mallet/ Double Shots
https://www.biketiresdirect.com/product/shimano-sh-sd501-cycling-sandal

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 10:22:43 PM UTC-5 Tim Baldwin wrote:

> I like riding in Vans sk8 hi or Crocs. So really just the shoes I would 
> wear around anyway. I wear boots when I have to.  I have some Sorels with a 
> thin sole that work well in the winter. If it's warmer and wet, splats are 
> pretty great and so stylish. 
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 9:03:48 PM UTC-6 Philip Williamson wrote:
>
>> I’m on my second pair of Chrome Kursks.
>> The old ones lasted years, off-road and on.
>>
>> Philip
>> Santa Rosa, CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
>>> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>>>
>>> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
>>> but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
>>> tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a few 
>>> years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
>>> doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>>>
>>> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
>>> running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
>>> bother me all those years.
>>>
>>> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
>>> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>>>
>>> Thanks for your thoughts!
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Seth Friedman]

these just came out if you want the option for cleats :) seth in seattle
https://www.adidas.com/us/the-velosamba-cycling-shoes/FW4459.html

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 7:37 PM Michael Morrissey <
michaelgmorris...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't know you or your style but why not these?
>
> https://www.adidas.com/us/campus-80s-shoes/FX5438.html
>
> I have a bunch of new balance running shoes and they're all too soft for
> cycling.
>
> My favorites of all time are Adidas ZX700 but they are discontinued.
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:31:36 PM UTC-5 Collin A wrote:
>
>> There are always the venerable blundstones...they have added the "active
>> line" that might actual fit your needs pretty well. Splash proof, not water
>> proof.
>> Men's Active Series - Lightweight Casual, Dress & Outdoor Boots -
>> Blundstone USA 
>>
>> For the local rides in and around fall/winter/early spring Sacramento and
>> the lower sierras, I like these:
>> La Sportiva Wildcat Trail-Running Shoes - Men's | REI Co-op
>> 
>>
>> Still running shoes, but "trail" (can I start using the "back in my day"
>> when referencing 15 year old trends, ha) so it just means they are a bit
>> stiffer and have stickier soles. They are also splash proof, but i'd not
>> recommend using these for extended rides in the rain as they take forever
>> to dry. I've had my pair for 3 years now and they are still going strong
>>
>> Come summer time, i throw on my bedrock sandals cause its HOT here, and
>> the river is nearby so I can do a mid or end-of-ride dip in the American
>> river. Not what you asked, but seasonal shoes might be worth considering if
>> your local climate warrants it.
>>
>> Collin, its sandal weather here, in Sacramento
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes
>>> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>>>
>>> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years,
>>> but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I
>>> tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a few
>>> years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip
>>> doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>>>
>>> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy
>>> running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't
>>> bother me all those years.
>>>
>>> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and
>>> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>>>
>>> Thanks for your thoughts!
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Samuel Huang]

+1 on Sambas. Apparently Adidas just released a cycling-specific model 
today called the Velosamba. Basically the same thing as a Samba but with 
stiffer sole and SPD compatibility. Pricey though!
On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 6:24:38 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> I like the Blundstone 550s for wet weather and muddy rides. I work in 
> construction, they last quite a long time. I find them pretty well 
> waterproof. Have worn them for years. 
>
> I like to ride in Adidas Sambas and Bedrock sandals :) 
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:52:51 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> I ride in Blundstones in the winter and wet weather and Vans when it's 
>> sunny and above ~50 or so. The Vans are super grippy on Monarchs. The 
>> Blundstones are fine if a little stiff and thick. It's hard to feel the 
>> pedal in them but they offer good wind/cold/rain protection. Crocs, 
>> Birkenstocks, and flipflops are great in the summer. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:15:19 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>>
>>> I prefer Five Ten Freeriders for biking - all my bikes have flats - with 
>>> the suede/mesh uppers and the rigid + grippy stealth rubber soles. MSRP is 
>>> $100 but can be had for as low as $60 when they go on sale. My experience 
>>> with Freeriders is they break in well and can take a beating. For a change 
>>> of pace, I also wear low cut Vans with waffle soles, laces, and 
>>> suede/canvas uppers (Berle Pro, BMX, Old Skool).
>>>
>>> --Ed C.
>>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>>>

 Hi all,

 I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
 people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.

 I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
 but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
 tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a 
 few 
 years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
 doesn't hold up when they're wet.

 I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
 running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
 bother me all those years.

 So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
 reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)

 Thanks for your thoughts!

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Tim Baldwin]

I like riding in Vans sk8 hi or Crocs. So really just the shoes I would 
wear around anyway. I wear boots when I have to.  I have some Sorels with a 
thin sole that work well in the winter. If it's warmer and wet, splats are 
pretty great and so stylish. 

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 9:03:48 PM UTC-6 Philip Williamson wrote:

> I’m on my second pair of Chrome Kursks.
> The old ones lasted years, off-road and on.
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA
>
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
>> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>>
>> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
>> but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
>> tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a few 
>> years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
>> doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>>
>> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
>> running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
>> bother me all those years.
>>
>> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
>> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Philip Williamson]

I’m on my second pair of Chrome Kursks.
The old ones lasted years, off-road and on.

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>
> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
> but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
> tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a few 
> years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
> doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>
> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy running 
> shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't bother me 
> all those years.
>
> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>
> Thanks for your thoughts!
>

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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Garth]

I wear Altra Superior 3.5 and Lone Peak 4 and the new All-Weather version 
trail running shoes for riding, they are more stiff midfoot than a pure 
running shoe like their Escalante Racer, which is ooh-lah-lah for walking 
!  What I like about Altra besides the zero drop  is the nice wide shape of 
the footbed, which leaves your toes free to roam without being pushed in on 
either side. It's very much a similar shape to the Crocs classic sandals, 
for those that are familiar with those.  Since I discovered that basic 
shape it was obvious why I hated shoes so much, it was the shape of 
footbed. I don't know anyone who has a foot shaped like say a Five Ten 
footbed where your big toe is supposedly gonna curve it's way to magically 
conform to the wonky shape ? I think not ! 
On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 2:45:19 PM UTC-5 Adam wrote:

> Thanks for all the suggestions, much appreciated.
>
> I know everyone has their own prefs with this stuff, it's great to have 
> all these ideas in one thread.
>
> I'm inclined to check out the Five Ten Freeriders, though I'm not sure how 
> they'll deal with water. I have various boots that work for winter or real 
> rain, but I seem to do a lot of rides that have either light rain or 
> puddles/mud.
>
> Or I'll bring back the Sambas--haven't worn those since the 90s . . .
>
> Thanks!
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 2:26:38 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> I second the Adidas Sambas and Bedrock combo. As long as it's not cold, I 
>> prefer wearing sandals since the drying time is nothing...but I think what 
>> made the biggest difference for me was going with a really large platform 
>> mountain bike pedal with pins. The bigger the platform, the less the shoe 
>> needs to be stiff and the pins really lock you in (sometimes too much.) I'm 
>> currently on Spank Oozy platforms and really any of my shoes work fine with 
>> them. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:24:38 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I like the Blundstone 550s for wet weather and muddy rides. I work in 
>>> construction, they last quite a long time. I find them pretty well 
>>> waterproof. Have worn them for years. 
>>>
>>> I like to ride in Adidas Sambas and Bedrock sandals :) 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:52:51 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy 
>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>
 I ride in Blundstones in the winter and wet weather and Vans when it's 
 sunny and above ~50 or so. The Vans are super grippy on Monarchs. The 
 Blundstones are fine if a little stiff and thick. It's hard to feel the 
 pedal in them but they offer good wind/cold/rain protection. Crocs, 
 Birkenstocks, and flipflops are great in the summer. 

 On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:15:19 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:

> I prefer Five Ten Freeriders for biking - all my bikes have flats - 
> with the suede/mesh uppers and the rigid + grippy stealth rubber soles. 
> MSRP is $100 but can be had for as low as $60 when they go on sale. My 
> experience with Freeriders is they break in well and can take a beating. 
> For a change of pace, I also wear low cut Vans with waffle soles, laces, 
> and suede/canvas uppers (Berle Pro, BMX, Old Skool).
>
> --Ed C.
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
>> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>>
>> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of 
>> years, but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to 
>> retire. I tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting 
>> around 
>> from a few years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, 
>> the grip doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>>
>> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
>> running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
>> bother me all those years.
>>
>> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
>> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Adam]

Thanks for all the suggestions, much appreciated.

I know everyone has their own prefs with this stuff, it's great to have all 
these ideas in one thread.

I'm inclined to check out the Five Ten Freeriders, though I'm not sure how 
they'll deal with water. I have various boots that work for winter or real 
rain, but I seem to do a lot of rides that have either light rain or 
puddles/mud.

Or I'll bring back the Sambas--haven't worn those since the 90s . . .

Thanks!
On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 2:26:38 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> I second the Adidas Sambas and Bedrock combo. As long as it's not cold, I 
> prefer wearing sandals since the drying time is nothing...but I think what 
> made the biggest difference for me was going with a really large platform 
> mountain bike pedal with pins. The bigger the platform, the less the shoe 
> needs to be stiff and the pins really lock you in (sometimes too much.) I'm 
> currently on Spank Oozy platforms and really any of my shoes work fine with 
> them. 
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:24:38 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I like the Blundstone 550s for wet weather and muddy rides. I work in 
>> construction, they last quite a long time. I find them pretty well 
>> waterproof. Have worn them for years. 
>>
>> I like to ride in Adidas Sambas and Bedrock sandals :) 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:52:51 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>> NY) wrote:
>>
>>> I ride in Blundstones in the winter and wet weather and Vans when it's 
>>> sunny and above ~50 or so. The Vans are super grippy on Monarchs. The 
>>> Blundstones are fine if a little stiff and thick. It's hard to feel the 
>>> pedal in them but they offer good wind/cold/rain protection. Crocs, 
>>> Birkenstocks, and flipflops are great in the summer. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:15:19 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>>>
 I prefer Five Ten Freeriders for biking - all my bikes have flats - 
 with the suede/mesh uppers and the rigid + grippy stealth rubber soles. 
 MSRP is $100 but can be had for as low as $60 when they go on sale. My 
 experience with Freeriders is they break in well and can take a beating. 
 For a change of pace, I also wear low cut Vans with waffle soles, laces, 
 and suede/canvas uppers (Berle Pro, BMX, Old Skool).

 --Ed C.
 On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>
> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of 
> years, but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to 
> retire. I tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting 
> around 
> from a few years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, 
> the grip doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>
> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
> running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
> bother me all those years.
>
> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>
> Thanks for your thoughts!
>


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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Andrew Turner]

I second the Adidas Sambas and Bedrock combo. As long as it's not cold, I 
prefer wearing sandals since the drying time is nothing...but I think what 
made the biggest difference for me was going with a really large platform 
mountain bike pedal with pins. The bigger the platform, the less the shoe 
needs to be stiff and the pins really lock you in (sometimes too much.) I'm 
currently on Spank Oozy platforms and really any of my shoes work fine with 
them. 

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:24:38 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> I like the Blundstone 550s for wet weather and muddy rides. I work in 
> construction, they last quite a long time. I find them pretty well 
> waterproof. Have worn them for years. 
>
> I like to ride in Adidas Sambas and Bedrock sandals :) 
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:52:51 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> I ride in Blundstones in the winter and wet weather and Vans when it's 
>> sunny and above ~50 or so. The Vans are super grippy on Monarchs. The 
>> Blundstones are fine if a little stiff and thick. It's hard to feel the 
>> pedal in them but they offer good wind/cold/rain protection. Crocs, 
>> Birkenstocks, and flipflops are great in the summer. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:15:19 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>>
>>> I prefer Five Ten Freeriders for biking - all my bikes have flats - with 
>>> the suede/mesh uppers and the rigid + grippy stealth rubber soles. MSRP is 
>>> $100 but can be had for as low as $60 when they go on sale. My experience 
>>> with Freeriders is they break in well and can take a beating. For a change 
>>> of pace, I also wear low cut Vans with waffle soles, laces, and 
>>> suede/canvas uppers (Berle Pro, BMX, Old Skool).
>>>
>>> --Ed C.
>>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>>>

 Hi all,

 I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
 people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.

 I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
 but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
 tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a 
 few 
 years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
 doesn't hold up when they're wet.

 I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
 running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
 bother me all those years.

 So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
 reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)

 Thanks for your thoughts!

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Eric Marth]

I like the Blundstone 550s for wet weather and muddy rides. I work in 
construction, they last quite a long time. I find them pretty well 
waterproof. Have worn them for years. 

I like to ride in Adidas Sambas and Bedrock sandals :) 

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:52:51 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
NY) wrote:

> I ride in Blundstones in the winter and wet weather and Vans when it's 
> sunny and above ~50 or so. The Vans are super grippy on Monarchs. The 
> Blundstones are fine if a little stiff and thick. It's hard to feel the 
> pedal in them but they offer good wind/cold/rain protection. Crocs, 
> Birkenstocks, and flipflops are great in the summer. 
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:15:19 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>
>> I prefer Five Ten Freeriders for biking - all my bikes have flats - with 
>> the suede/mesh uppers and the rigid + grippy stealth rubber soles. MSRP is 
>> $100 but can be had for as low as $60 when they go on sale. My experience 
>> with Freeriders is they break in well and can take a beating. For a change 
>> of pace, I also wear low cut Vans with waffle soles, laces, and 
>> suede/canvas uppers (Berle Pro, BMX, Old Skool).
>>
>> --Ed C.
>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
>>> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>>>
>>> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
>>> but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
>>> tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a few 
>>> years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
>>> doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>>>
>>> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
>>> running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
>>> bother me all those years.
>>>
>>> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
>>> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>>>
>>> Thanks for your thoughts!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I ride in Blundstones in the winter and wet weather and Vans when it's 
sunny and above ~50 or so. The Vans are super grippy on Monarchs. The 
Blundstones are fine if a little stiff and thick. It's hard to feel the 
pedal in them but they offer good wind/cold/rain protection. Crocs, 
Birkenstocks, and flipflops are great in the summer. 

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:15:19 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:

> I prefer Five Ten Freeriders for biking - all my bikes have flats - with 
> the suede/mesh uppers and the rigid + grippy stealth rubber soles. MSRP is 
> $100 but can be had for as low as $60 when they go on sale. My experience 
> with Freeriders is they break in well and can take a beating. For a change 
> of pace, I also wear low cut Vans with waffle soles, laces, and 
> suede/canvas uppers (Berle Pro, BMX, Old Skool).
>
> --Ed C.
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
>> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>>
>> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
>> but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
>> tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a few 
>> years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
>> doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>>
>> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
>> running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
>> bother me all those years.
>>
>> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
>> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Ed Carolipio]

I prefer Five Ten Freeriders for biking - all my bikes have flats - with 
the suede/mesh uppers and the rigid + grippy stealth rubber soles. MSRP is 
$100 but can be had for as low as $60 when they go on sale. My experience 
with Freeriders is they break in well and can take a beating. For a change 
of pace, I also wear low cut Vans with waffle soles, laces, and 
suede/canvas uppers (Berle Pro, BMX, Old Skool).

--Ed C.
On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>
> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
> but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
> tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a few 
> years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
> doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>
> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy running 
> shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't bother me 
> all those years.
>
> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>
> Thanks for your thoughts!
>

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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Michael Morrissey]

I don't know you or your style but why not these?

https://www.adidas.com/us/campus-80s-shoes/FX5438.html

I have a bunch of new balance running shoes and they're all too soft for 
cycling. 

My favorites of all time are Adidas ZX700 but they are discontinued.

Michael


On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:31:36 PM UTC-5 Collin A wrote:

> There are always the venerable blundstones...they have added the "active 
> line" that might actual fit your needs pretty well. Splash proof, not water 
> proof.
> Men's Active Series - Lightweight Casual, Dress & Outdoor Boots - 
> Blundstone USA   
>
> For the local rides in and around fall/winter/early spring Sacramento and 
> the lower sierras, I like these:
> La Sportiva Wildcat Trail-Running Shoes - Men's | REI Co-op 
> 
>   
> Still running shoes, but "trail" (can I start using the "back in my day" 
> when referencing 15 year old trends, ha) so it just means they are a bit 
> stiffer and have stickier soles. They are also splash proof, but i'd not 
> recommend using these for extended rides in the rain as they take forever 
> to dry. I've had my pair for 3 years now and they are still going strong
>
> Come summer time, i throw on my bedrock sandals cause its HOT here, and 
> the river is nearby so I can do a mid or end-of-ride dip in the American 
> river. Not what you asked, but seasonal shoes might be worth considering if 
> your local climate warrants it.
>
> Collin, its sandal weather here, in Sacramento
>
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
>> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>>
>> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
>> but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
>> tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a few 
>> years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
>> doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>>
>> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
>> running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
>> bother me all those years.
>>
>> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
>> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Collin A]

There are always the venerable blundstones...they have added the "active 
line" that might actual fit your needs pretty well. Splash proof, not water 
proof.
Men's Active Series - Lightweight Casual, Dress & Outdoor Boots - 
Blundstone USA   

For the local rides in and around fall/winter/early spring Sacramento and 
the lower sierras, I like these:
La Sportiva Wildcat Trail-Running Shoes - Men's | REI Co-op 

  
Still running shoes, but "trail" (can I start using the "back in my day" 
when referencing 15 year old trends, ha) so it just means they are a bit 
stiffer and have stickier soles. They are also splash proof, but i'd not 
recommend using these for extended rides in the rain as they take forever 
to dry. I've had my pair for 3 years now and they are still going strong

Come summer time, i throw on my bedrock sandals cause its HOT here, and the 
river is nearby so I can do a mid or end-of-ride dip in the American river. 
Not what you asked, but seasonal shoes might be worth considering if your 
local climate warrants it.

Collin, its sandal weather here, in Sacramento

On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>
> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
> but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
> tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a few 
> years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
> doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>
> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy running 
> shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't bother me 
> all those years.
>
> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>
> Thanks for your thoughts!
>

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