[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-19 Thread Blindrobert
Wow - I guess I am the only person who had these brakes and didn't care for them. I ordered my AHH built with the polished center mount version of the Racer and found them to be rather problematic. Neither the folks at Rivendell nor my LBS were able to help with the problems I was having:

Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-19 Thread Gino Zahnd
Disclosure: Paul is a good friend of mine. Regarding the straddle wire, that sounds like a setup problem to me. I run Paul brakes on a few of my bikes, and that's not a problem with any of them. In fact, just squeezing the centerpulls by the pads should release the cable, or close to it. Without

Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-19 Thread Rob Harrison
Speaking of Paul's centerpulls, my new-to-me Saluki has the polished versions. Haven't ridden it yet, still setting it up, but I noticed this morning the chrome on all of the brake pad fixing post nuts--the 5mm hex domed ones--is flaking off and rusting. Anyone know if those available in

Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-19 Thread Gino Zahnd
Buy new brake pads, and you get new nuts. Those aren't a PAUL part, just part of the brake pad. http://www.koolstop.com/brakes/index.php On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of Paul's centerpulls, my new-to-me Saluki has the polished versions.

Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-19 Thread Rob Harrison
I'll be darned. That's clever. I haven't owned a bike with centerpull brakes in the modern era. (Obviously.) Last centerpulls I had were Weinmanns, in 1977. :) Thanks Gino! Rob in Seattle On May 19, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Gino Zahnd wrote: Buy new brake pads, and you get new nuts. Those

[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-17 Thread happyriding
On May 14, 1:21 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Comp are THE best brakes made in the world these days. -my next ride is going with Racer-canti, What is the Paul Racer-canti? I don't see it on the Paul website. the Bleriot is set for Racer- bolts, and Chloe's new LHT is going to get

[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-17 Thread happyriding
On May 13, 11:38 pm, Paul Price p...@paulcomp.com wrote: Hey- Thanks for that. We're pretty proud of our brakes. Hi Paul, Do you have any pictures on your website that compare 'silver anodized' to 'high polish'? Or, can you direct me to pictures of each type? Thanks. -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 20:07 -0700, happyriding wrote: On May 13, 11:38 pm, Paul Price p...@paulcomp.com wrote: Hey- Thanks for that. We're pretty proud of our brakes. Hi Paul, Do you have any pictures on your website that compare 'silver anodized' to 'high polish'? Or, can you

Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 19:21 -0700, happyriding wrote: On May 14, 1:21 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Comp are THE best brakes made in the world these days. -my next ride is going with Racer-canti, What is the Paul Racer-canti? I don't see it on the Paul website. He must mean

[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-17 Thread Me
Yep, I do. As in, Cantilever Posts which are brazed-on. -Scott On May 17, 4:27 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 19:21 -0700, happyriding wrote: On May 14, 1:21 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Comp are THE best brakes made in the world these days.

Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 12:21 -0700, Me wrote: Yep, I do. As in, Cantilever Posts which are brazed-on. Except that in this case, they're not for cantilever brakes, but rather for centerpulls. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-17 Thread S.Cutshall
True, dat... but they attach via cantilever posts [which were originally conceived for attaching cantilever brakes and not centerpulls]. ;-) -Scott On May 17, 12:26 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 12:21 -0700, Me wrote: Yep, I do. As in, Cantilever Posts

[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-17 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 17, 3:35 pm, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: True, dat... but they attach via cantilever posts [which were originally conceived for attaching cantilever brakes and not centerpulls]. hmm, but if you tried to run cantilever brakes on these cantilever posts, it wouldn't work out so

Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: are there any epistemologists on this list? can a cantilever post *be* a cantilever post if a cantilever brake can't be used on it? It's only a cantilever post if it is actually, at this moment, supporting a cantilever

[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-17 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 17, 4:10 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: It's only a cantilever post if it is actually, at this moment, supporting a cantilever brake arm. Otherwise it's only a potential cantilever post. Patrick if a tree falls in the forest, etc etc etc Moore Thank you, Patrick. I

[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-17 Thread happyriding
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Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-17 Thread Horace
What where they called when they were sitting around the bike builder's shop? What was the label on the box that they came in Sorry, too amusing not to ask. Horace. On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On May 17, 3:35 pm, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com

Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-05-17 at 15:15 -0700, Horace wrote: What where they called when they were sitting around the bike builder's shop? What was the label on the box that they came in Sorry, too amusing not to ask. According to the Paul web site, they are ...centerpull brake bosses. These are

Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-17 Thread Gino Zahnd
They were called cantilever bosses. (I think this thread is now officially not RBW in nature.) On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: What where they called when they were sitting around the bike builder's shop? What was the label on the box that they came

[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-17 Thread S.Cutshall
When I apprenticed with a couple different framebuilders, they always called them 'Bosses' or 'Posts'... http://www.bikeparts.com/pimage/BPC311130.jpg I usually called them something far worse when 'cleaning up' filing the brazes to smooth. -Scott On May 17, 3:15 pm, Horace

Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-17 Thread Paul Price
That is the correct, or one of the correct posts, or bosses. I interchange the terms but they both mean that thing. True, you won't be mounting cantilevers on them, but all our brakes use the same pivot setup that fits on those. There are several different styles, that one in the picture

[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-14 Thread Me
Paul Comp are THE best brakes made in the world these days. -my next ride is going with Racer-canti, the Bleriot is set for Racer- bolts, and Chloe's new LHT is going to get the Neo/Touring combo soon- Every good bike in the world should be stopping with Paul Comp brakes. -Scott On May 13,

[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-14 Thread JoelMatthews
I have brazed-on Paul Racers on my Velo Orange Randonneur. Best brakes I've ever used, bar none. I am lucky enough to have a set of NOS Raids. Otherwise I would have gone with original Paul Racers on my upcoming Rando. The new Paul Racer Ms look so nice I am trying to figure out what sort of

[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-14 Thread JoelMatthews
Thanks for that. We're pretty proud of our brakes. If you ever get a chance the braze-on version is really nice. It adds a level of stiffness and aesthetics. Paul: Big fan of your product and your company's way of doing business. Thanks for posting here. Now that Riv is making the Hilsen in

[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-14 Thread Patrick in VT
On May 13, 2:41 pm, J C chive...@gmail.com wrote: I use the neo-retro (front)/touring (rear) brake set-up on my cx bike. great brakes - you can dial these in to suit your needs and riding style, which is really nice. they can be super-grabby, or you can set 'em up just to scrub some

[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-14 Thread Buck
I have Paul Touring Cantis on my Atlantis. They replaced some Avid V- brakes. I l-o-v-e the Cantis. I really do. But... I honestly can't say that they stop me any faster than the way-cheaper Avids or feel $150 better. Maybe it depends on the kind of riding you do. For me, to a large extent, (good)

[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-14 Thread CCX
That is a sweet bike Steve. Thanks for the update on the brakes. Thanks to the rest of you who replied too, jc On May 14, 5:23 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 12:41 -0600, J C wrote: Hello hip listers, Do any of you use the Paul's racer I have

[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-14 Thread Ken
I have the same set up on my Atlantis. Last year the front squealed, this year its the back. I tilt the pad out, I tilt them in, and still they squeal. Maybe Paul's still listening? On May 14, 8:45 am, Buck ahurv...@gmail.com wrote: I have Paul Touring Cantis on my Atlantis. They replaced some

Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-14 Thread Gino Zahnd
Ken - Toe yer brake pads properly, and make sure they're aligned on the rim properly. That should kill the squeal. See also: http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=19 Cheers, Gino On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Ken ken.ha...@stribmail.com wrote: I have the same set up on my

[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions

2010-05-14 Thread Ken
Thanks for the link. The bad alignment example looks very familiar. I was focused on Toe in and not making sure the pad was lined up properly. Hopefully that does it. On May 14, 3:30 pm, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: Ken - Toe yer brake pads properly, and make sure they're aligned on