Re: [RBW] 8-speed, 12-34 cassette

2021-11-08 Thread Corwin 
$80 is not a problem. Trying to get to a range of 100" to 30" in a 1x setup 
using a 44 tooth chainring. 34 only gets to 35".

Thanks for the data point.

Namaste,


Corwin

On Saturday, November 6, 2021 at 12:13:14 PM UTC-7 gkmur...@gmail.com wrote:

> IRD has a 12-34 but pricing is like $80. I try to just stick with Shimano 
> or SRAM when I can. 
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021, 3:27 PM Garth  wrote:
>
>> Sunarace is the only mfr. of the 12-34 8-sp using 12/14/16/18/21/24/28/34 
>> cogs. Microshift has a 12-32 but uses a very wonky 12/13/15/18/21/24/28/32. 
>> A 15 to 18 jump is too much for my riding preference with 24/36/44 rings. 
>> It's like a gear and a half jump where you don't want one. 
>>
>> What I like about Sunrace CSM double-digit mtb cassettes is that they're 
>> held together by a removable torx pin, so if need be I can by another 
>> non-exact cassette with the cogs I ride most, the 14/16/18/21/24 and use 
>> the previous 28 and 32, or if it the other had a 34 I'd be okay with that.
>>
>> This gear calculator is very easy to use and customize even if a specific 
>> cassette isn't listed. Use you mouse and arrange things as you like.
>>
>> http://www.gear-calculator.com/
>>
>> Basically though, cog selection in mfr. cassettes sucks ! I have no use 
>> for 11, 12 or even 13 for that matter. I currently have a Sunrace 12-36 
>> 9-sp that I don't use either the 12 or 36 cogs, so I basically use it as a 
>> narrow spaced 7-speed. The 36 is my "spoke guard" !  I could just as easily 
>> get by with 15/17/20/24/28/32 cogs if anyone offered it. Six cog SS/trials 
>> cassette hubs are made by Hadley, Hope and Onyx. If I had it my way 
>> everyone would choose their cassette cogs that had a mind to, the weight 
>> weenies need not apply because they'll put up with anything as long as the 
>> digits read like tea leaves. 
>> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:39:12 AM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> I've been buying the 11-32 Shimano and SRAM.  I think the gearing is 
>>> slightly better on the SRAM.  I like an 11.  32 seems to be sufficient.  
>>>  Look at the gearing calculators on Sheldon Brown.com
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:03:40 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>>
 There is a 13-34 7 speed cassette from IRD, I have had it on my touring 
 bike for the last year.  Steve

 On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 9:31 AM J Schwartz  wrote:

> Greetings, 
> Anyone know if there's an available 12-34, 8-speed cassette out there 
> besides the Sunrace?
> Not that I'm opposed to Sunrace.  Just curious if there are other 
> options.  Looks like Shimano/Sram don't have that in their current lineup.
> thank you
> JS
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Re: [RBW] 8-speed, 12-34 cassette

2021-11-07 Thread J Schwartz 
Thanks for all the input
I can't really respond from my phone so had to wait until I'm on a laptop.

Yes, I'm familiar with the other sized options , other gearing options, 
Sheldon's calculator, etc.  Specifically looking for a 12-34 cassette in 
8-speed.
and...it looks like Sunrace is the best option given the price of the IRD.
The gearing is only slightly different with the IRD being maybe a little 
more preferable to the roadish rider.
12-13-15-18-21-24-28-34, [IRD]
&
12-14-16-18-21-24-28-34, [Sunrace]
both coated steel.

There are occasionally 12-34 8-speed XT cassettes that pop up on eBay in 
various states of usability given that group is 20 years old.

Plenty of expensive 12-34 8-speed XTR cassettes too...but I'm not 
interested in titanium nor the prices.
Really surprised this isn't a more common and readily avail. cassette size. 

thanks
JS
On Saturday, November 6, 2021 at 3:13:14 PM UTC-4 gkmur...@gmail.com wrote:

> IRD has a 12-34 but pricing is like $80. I try to just stick with Shimano 
> or SRAM when I can. 
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021, 3:27 PM Garth  wrote:
>
>> Sunarace is the only mfr. of the 12-34 8-sp using 12/14/16/18/21/24/28/34 
>> cogs. Microshift has a 12-32 but uses a very wonky 12/13/15/18/21/24/28/32. 
>> A 15 to 18 jump is too much for my riding preference with 24/36/44 rings. 
>> It's like a gear and a half jump where you don't want one. 
>>
>> What I like about Sunrace CSM double-digit mtb cassettes is that they're 
>> held together by a removable torx pin, so if need be I can by another 
>> non-exact cassette with the cogs I ride most, the 14/16/18/21/24 and use 
>> the previous 28 and 32, or if it the other had a 34 I'd be okay with that.
>>
>> This gear calculator is very easy to use and customize even if a specific 
>> cassette isn't listed. Use you mouse and arrange things as you like.
>>
>> http://www.gear-calculator.com/
>>
>> Basically though, cog selection in mfr. cassettes sucks ! I have no use 
>> for 11, 12 or even 13 for that matter. I currently have a Sunrace 12-36 
>> 9-sp that I don't use either the 12 or 36 cogs, so I basically use it as a 
>> narrow spaced 7-speed. The 36 is my "spoke guard" !  I could just as easily 
>> get by with 15/17/20/24/28/32 cogs if anyone offered it. Six cog SS/trials 
>> cassette hubs are made by Hadley, Hope and Onyx. If I had it my way 
>> everyone would choose their cassette cogs that had a mind to, the weight 
>> weenies need not apply because they'll put up with anything as long as the 
>> digits read like tea leaves. 
>> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:39:12 AM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> I've been buying the 11-32 Shimano and SRAM.  I think the gearing is 
>>> slightly better on the SRAM.  I like an 11.  32 seems to be sufficient.  
>>>  Look at the gearing calculators on Sheldon Brown.com
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:03:40 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>>
 There is a 13-34 7 speed cassette from IRD, I have had it on my touring 
 bike for the last year.  Steve

 On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 9:31 AM J Schwartz  wrote:

> Greetings, 
> Anyone know if there's an available 12-34, 8-speed cassette out there 
> besides the Sunrace?
> Not that I'm opposed to Sunrace.  Just curious if there are other 
> options.  Looks like Shimano/Sram don't have that in their current lineup.
> thank you
> JS
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Re: [RBW] 8-speed, 12-34 cassette

2021-11-06 Thread Greg Murphy 
IRD has a 12-34 but pricing is like $80. I try to just stick with Shimano
or SRAM when I can.

On Mon, Nov 1, 2021, 3:27 PM Garth  wrote:

> Sunarace is the only mfr. of the 12-34 8-sp using 12/14/16/18/21/24/28/34
> cogs. Microshift has a 12-32 but uses a very wonky 12/13/15/18/21/24/28/32.
> A 15 to 18 jump is too much for my riding preference with 24/36/44 rings.
> It's like a gear and a half jump where you don't want one.
>
> What I like about Sunrace CSM double-digit mtb cassettes is that they're
> held together by a removable torx pin, so if need be I can by another
> non-exact cassette with the cogs I ride most, the 14/16/18/21/24 and use
> the previous 28 and 32, or if it the other had a 34 I'd be okay with that.
>
> This gear calculator is very easy to use and customize even if a specific
> cassette isn't listed. Use you mouse and arrange things as you like.
>
> http://www.gear-calculator.com/
>
> Basically though, cog selection in mfr. cassettes sucks ! I have no use
> for 11, 12 or even 13 for that matter. I currently have a Sunrace 12-36
> 9-sp that I don't use either the 12 or 36 cogs, so I basically use it as a
> narrow spaced 7-speed. The 36 is my "spoke guard" !  I could just as easily
> get by with 15/17/20/24/28/32 cogs if anyone offered it. Six cog SS/trials
> cassette hubs are made by Hadley, Hope and Onyx. If I had it my way
> everyone would choose their cassette cogs that had a mind to, the weight
> weenies need not apply because they'll put up with anything as long as the
> digits read like tea leaves.
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:39:12 AM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> I've been buying the 11-32 Shimano and SRAM.  I think the gearing is
>> slightly better on the SRAM.  I like an 11.  32 seems to be sufficient.
>>  Look at the gearing calculators on Sheldon Brown.com
>>
>> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:03:40 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>
>>> There is a 13-34 7 speed cassette from IRD, I have had it on my touring
>>> bike for the last year.  Steve
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 9:31 AM J Schwartz  wrote:
>>>
 Greetings,
 Anyone know if there's an available 12-34, 8-speed cassette out there
 besides the Sunrace?
 Not that I'm opposed to Sunrace.  Just curious if there are other
 options.  Looks like Shimano/Sram don't have that in their current lineup.
 thank you
 JS

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Re: [RBW] 8-speed, 12-34 cassette

2021-11-01 Thread Ray Varella 
I have a couple of those 12-34 8 speed cassettes in use, one with a Suntour 
XC Pro rear mech and one with a first generation Deore XT, both shifted in 
friction,  they both shift so smooth and quietly I find myself looking down 
to see if they changed cogs. 
 For $20 they are a bargain. If the range works for you, I don’t see how 
you can go wrong. 

Hey Garth, you can get an Ultegra 13T to replace the 12, I’ve done that 
too. 
Unfortunately TA discontinued their Podium line of cassettes. 

Rivendell is working on a 7 speed unit that looks promising.  

Ray
On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 3:27:05 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> Sunarace is the only mfr. of the 12-34 8-sp using 12/14/16/18/21/24/28/34 
> cogs. Microshift has a 12-32 but uses a very wonky 12/13/15/18/21/24/28/32. 
> A 15 to 18 jump is too much for my riding preference with 24/36/44 rings. 
> It's like a gear and a half jump where you don't want one. 
>
> What I like about Sunrace CSM double-digit mtb cassettes is that they're 
> held together by a removable torx pin, so if need be I can by another 
> non-exact cassette with the cogs I ride most, the 14/16/18/21/24 and use 
> the previous 28 and 32, or if it the other had a 34 I'd be okay with that.
>
> This gear calculator is very easy to use and customize even if a specific 
> cassette isn't listed. Use you mouse and arrange things as you like.
>
> http://www.gear-calculator.com/
>
> Basically though, cog selection in mfr. cassettes sucks ! I have no use 
> for 11, 12 or even 13 for that matter. I currently have a Sunrace 12-36 
> 9-sp that I don't use either the 12 or 36 cogs, so I basically use it as a 
> narrow spaced 7-speed. The 36 is my "spoke guard" !  I could just as easily 
> get by with 15/17/20/24/28/32 cogs if anyone offered it. Six cog SS/trials 
> cassette hubs are made by Hadley, Hope and Onyx. If I had it my way 
> everyone would choose their cassette cogs that had a mind to, the weight 
> weenies need not apply because they'll put up with anything as long as the 
> digits read like tea leaves. 
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:39:12 AM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> I've been buying the 11-32 Shimano and SRAM.  I think the gearing is 
>> slightly better on the SRAM.  I like an 11.  32 seems to be sufficient.  
>>  Look at the gearing calculators on Sheldon Brown.com
>>
>> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:03:40 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>
>>> There is a 13-34 7 speed cassette from IRD, I have had it on my touring 
>>> bike for the last year.  Steve
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 9:31 AM J Schwartz  wrote:
>>>
 Greetings, 
 Anyone know if there's an available 12-34, 8-speed cassette out there 
 besides the Sunrace?
 Not that I'm opposed to Sunrace.  Just curious if there are other 
 options.  Looks like Shimano/Sram don't have that in their current lineup.
 thank you
 JS

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Re: [RBW] 8-speed, 12-34 cassette

2021-11-01 Thread Garth 
Sunarace is the only mfr. of the 12-34 8-sp using 12/14/16/18/21/24/28/34 
cogs. Microshift has a 12-32 but uses a very wonky 12/13/15/18/21/24/28/32. 
A 15 to 18 jump is too much for my riding preference with 24/36/44 rings. 
It's like a gear and a half jump where you don't want one. 

What I like about Sunrace CSM double-digit mtb cassettes is that they're 
held together by a removable torx pin, so if need be I can by another 
non-exact cassette with the cogs I ride most, the 14/16/18/21/24 and use 
the previous 28 and 32, or if it the other had a 34 I'd be okay with that.

This gear calculator is very easy to use and customize even if a specific 
cassette isn't listed. Use you mouse and arrange things as you like.

http://www.gear-calculator.com/

Basically though, cog selection in mfr. cassettes sucks ! I have no use for 
11, 12 or even 13 for that matter. I currently have a Sunrace 12-36 9-sp 
that I don't use either the 12 or 36 cogs, so I basically use it as a 
narrow spaced 7-speed. The 36 is my "spoke guard" !  I could just as easily 
get by with 15/17/20/24/28/32 cogs if anyone offered it. Six cog SS/trials 
cassette hubs are made by Hadley, Hope and Onyx. If I had it my way 
everyone would choose their cassette cogs that had a mind to, the weight 
weenies need not apply because they'll put up with anything as long as the 
digits read like tea leaves. 
On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:39:12 AM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I've been buying the 11-32 Shimano and SRAM.  I think the gearing is 
> slightly better on the SRAM.  I like an 11.  32 seems to be sufficient.  
>  Look at the gearing calculators on Sheldon Brown.com
>
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:03:40 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
>> There is a 13-34 7 speed cassette from IRD, I have had it on my touring 
>> bike for the last year.  Steve
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 9:31 AM J Schwartz  wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings, 
>>> Anyone know if there's an available 12-34, 8-speed cassette out there 
>>> besides the Sunrace?
>>> Not that I'm opposed to Sunrace.  Just curious if there are other 
>>> options.  Looks like Shimano/Sram don't have that in their current lineup.
>>> thank you
>>> JS
>>>
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Re: [RBW] 8-speed, 12-34 cassette

2021-11-01 Thread Joe Bernard 
I have a SunRace 11-speed on my custom. I wouldn't worry about that 
company, it's good stuff. And generally available!

Joe Bernard

On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 12:41:07 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote:

> JS:
>
> Sunrace has a 12-34 8 speed.  I've used them & they are fine.  With 700c 
> wheels & a 24-34-44 triple I have all the gear range I need.  However, if 
> you have 26" wheels, an 11 may be better.  My wife has 26" wheels & uses 
> her 46 x 11 top gear.  We are both recreational riders.  
>
> I've used cassettes with a 32 big cog, & found the change from the 28 to 
> be not quite enough.  With the 34, I like that last jump from 28 to 34 as 
> it feels like I've really gained something.
>
> dougP
>
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 7:39:12 AM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> I've been buying the 11-32 Shimano and SRAM.  I think the gearing is 
>> slightly better on the SRAM.  I like an 11.  32 seems to be sufficient.  
>>  Look at the gearing calculators on Sheldon Brown.com
>>
>> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:03:40 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>
>>> There is a 13-34 7 speed cassette from IRD, I have had it on my touring 
>>> bike for the last year.  Steve
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 9:31 AM J Schwartz  wrote:
>>>
 Greetings, 
 Anyone know if there's an available 12-34, 8-speed cassette out there 
 besides the Sunrace?
 Not that I'm opposed to Sunrace.  Just curious if there are other 
 options.  Looks like Shimano/Sram don't have that in their current lineup.
 thank you
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Re: [RBW] 8-speed, 12-34 cassette

2021-11-01 Thread dougP 
JS:

Sunrace has a 12-34 8 speed.  I've used them & they are fine.  With 700c 
wheels & a 24-34-44 triple I have all the gear range I need.  However, if 
you have 26" wheels, an 11 may be better.  My wife has 26" wheels & uses 
her 46 x 11 top gear.  We are both recreational riders.  

I've used cassettes with a 32 big cog, & found the change from the 28 to be 
not quite enough.  With the 34, I like that last jump from 28 to 34 as it 
feels like I've really gained something.

dougP

On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 7:39:12 AM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I've been buying the 11-32 Shimano and SRAM.  I think the gearing is 
> slightly better on the SRAM.  I like an 11.  32 seems to be sufficient.  
>  Look at the gearing calculators on Sheldon Brown.com
>
> On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:03:40 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
>> There is a 13-34 7 speed cassette from IRD, I have had it on my touring 
>> bike for the last year.  Steve
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 9:31 AM J Schwartz  wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings, 
>>> Anyone know if there's an available 12-34, 8-speed cassette out there 
>>> besides the Sunrace?
>>> Not that I'm opposed to Sunrace.  Just curious if there are other 
>>> options.  Looks like Shimano/Sram don't have that in their current lineup.
>>> thank you
>>> JS
>>>
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Re: [RBW] 8-speed, 12-34 cassette

2021-11-01 Thread Pam Bikes 
I've been buying the 11-32 Shimano and SRAM.  I think the gearing is 
slightly better on the SRAM.  I like an 11.  32 seems to be sufficient.  
 Look at the gearing calculators on Sheldon Brown.com

On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:03:40 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:

> There is a 13-34 7 speed cassette from IRD, I have had it on my touring 
> bike for the last year.  Steve
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 9:31 AM J Schwartz  wrote:
>
>> Greetings, 
>> Anyone know if there's an available 12-34, 8-speed cassette out there 
>> besides the Sunrace?
>> Not that I'm opposed to Sunrace.  Just curious if there are other 
>> options.  Looks like Shimano/Sram don't have that in their current lineup.
>> thank you
>> JS
>>
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Re: [RBW] 8-speed, 12-34 cassette

2021-11-01 Thread Steven Sweedler 
There is a 13-34 7 speed cassette from IRD, I have had it on my touring
bike for the last year.  Steve

On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 9:31 AM J Schwartz  wrote:

> Greetings,
> Anyone know if there's an available 12-34, 8-speed cassette out there
> besides the Sunrace?
> Not that I'm opposed to Sunrace.  Just curious if there are other
> options.  Looks like Shimano/Sram don't have that in their current lineup.
> thank you
> JS
>
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[RBW] 8-speed, 12-34 cassette

2021-11-01 Thread J Schwartz 
Greetings, 
Anyone know if there's an available 12-34, 8-speed cassette out there 
besides the Sunrace?
Not that I'm opposed to Sunrace.  Just curious if there are other options. 
 Looks like Shimano/Sram don't have that in their current lineup.
thank you
JS

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