Re: [RBW] Flats and Hetres

2014-11-17 Thread Patrick Moore
Tire savers are meant to be positioned a mm or 2 above the tire. This can be done even with the typical out-of-round of most tires. On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote: I don't use tire wipers http://www.compasscycle.com/tires_wipers_700.html any longer,

Re: [RBW] Flats and Hetres

2014-11-16 Thread Jan Heine
I agree with you, with one caveat: Width and tire pressure make a huge difference. If you are comparing two 32 mm tires, the supple, light one will get more flats. But if you are comparing a puncture-resistant 32 mm tire with a supple, light 42 mm tire, the 42 mm tire probably will get fewer

Re: [RBW] Flats and Hetres

2014-11-16 Thread Aaron Young
Jan, Do you still use tire sweeper contraptions? Thanks, Aaron Young The Dalles, OR On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote: I agree with you, with one caveat: Width and tire pressure make a huge difference. If you are comparing two 32 mm tires, the supple,

Re: [RBW] Flats and Hetres

2014-11-16 Thread Jan Heine
I don't use tire wipers http://www.compasscycle.com/tires_wipers_700.html any longer, since I just don't have enough flats to warrant the noise and dust they put on the bike. When I raced on 21.5 mm tubulars, I had lots of flats until I started using tire wipers. Thereafter, only a single flat

Re: [RBW] Flats and Hetres

2014-11-16 Thread Mike Schiller
David, I guess I'm coming over when I set up my new A23's with Babyshoe Pass's to get your advice and oversight on the proper techniques. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. On Saturday, November 15, 2014 5:42:27 PM UTC-8, David G wrote: I currently run tubeless 650b tires on the following rims: Stan's ZTR

Re: [RBW] Flats and Hetres

2014-11-16 Thread stonehog
+1 on that. I'm riding Hetre EL on PL23 with Stans goo, and have yet to flat in a few months of daily commutes through the mean streets. Yes - I can have my bacon and eat it too. Yum yum!!! Brian Hanson Seattle, WA On Saturday, November 15, 2014 4:20:43 PM UTC-8, David G wrote: I

[RBW] Flats and Hetres

2014-11-15 Thread 'Hudson Doerge' via RBW Owners Bunch
I can't compare hetres to narrower tires, but my ~40mm marathon supremes have had less flats in three years than my hetres have in six months. The ride is nicer though, but not enough to switch my simpleone to Barlow passes. Hudson in atx. -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Flats and Hetres

2014-11-15 Thread Tim McNamara
The simple physics is that light, supple tires with thin rubber are going to be punctured more easily than tires with thicker rubber, heavier walls, puncture strips, etc. It is not a criticism of high performance tires, that’s just the way it is. The things that make a tire puncture resistant

Re: [RBW] Flats and Hetres

2014-11-15 Thread Edwin W
This discussion made me thankful for our lack of bike infrastructure in Nashville: I'm forced to ride in the (clear of debris) track of the right car tire. Bike lanes can't be neglected and full of junk if there aren't (m)any. Never thought I'd be thankful for that. Haha. Edwin -- You

Re: [RBW] Flats and Hetres

2014-11-15 Thread David Yu Greenblatt
I essentially never get flats with Hetres. Perhaps because I run them tubeless with Stan's sealant. In 4-5 years riding Hetres and now Babyshoes in Madison WI, San Fran, and San Diego, I have experienced a leak on two occasions that I can remember, requiring mid-ride adding of air, but I have

Re: [RBW] Flats and Hetres

2014-11-15 Thread Patrick Moore
David: what rims do you use with the tubeless Hetres? For the record, Stan's in tubes, as long as the pressure is high enough (I can't define that beyond: doesn't work in 29er tubes sub 25 psi off road amongst the goathead patches, while tubeless does in the same tires), works very well, as I've

Re: [RBW] Flats and Hetres

2014-11-15 Thread David Yu Greenblatt
I currently run tubeless 650b tires on the following rims: Stan's ZTR 355 (out of production) Pacenti PL23 Velocity A23 With Stan's rim tape and sealant the following tires worked fine tubeless: Grand Bois Hetre Compass Babyshoe Pass Extralight Pacenti Pari-Moto Pacenti Quasi-Moto Schwalbe

[RBW] Flats and Hetres

2014-11-14 Thread Eric Norris
Obviously, Jan H. is lucky not to have to deal with this on a daily basis: https://flic.kr/p/pM2AGC https://flic.kr/p/pM2AGC His flat-free experience would be much different, I think, if he had to ride in these conditions. P.S. Today’s ride: No flats!! —Eric N campyonly...@me.com