Re: [RBW] Handling Effects of Shorter Stems (from the OT discussion in a previuos post on the New Sams in Sept)

2020-05-22 Thread lambbo
$20 way to test a 300mm stem if you don’t mind chinese made. https://www.ebay.com/p/534752766?iid=262029398924=ps=1=1=711-117182-37290-0=2=262029398924=884692771401=m=pla=9004358==9344508178=100238954131=pla-884692771401=1139336=102014203=EAIaIQobChMI9Kr3jPjI6QIVloTICh3puQd-EAQYBiABEgJbYvD_BwE

Re: [RBW] Handling Effects of Shorter Stems (from the OT discussion in a previuos post on the New Sams in Sept)

2020-05-22 Thread Joe Bernard
I think there's more psychology involved in what we think a bike is "supposed" to look like than we admit to. If my brain thinks a long-ish 7-shaped stem is the right way to run a dropbar, I'm liable to think a short stem handles weird because the look convinces me it will handle weird. --

Re: [RBW] Handling Effects of Shorter Stems (from the OT discussion in a previuos post on the New Sams in Sept)

2020-05-22 Thread Patrick Moore
I should have added that in retrospect I've experienced the viability of short stems myself: I've built many long tt mountain bikes up with drop bars using radically upjutting stems (10 cm DD, Tioga T-Bones) with effectively very short reach; not 0, but certainly less than the 8 to 10 I expect on

Re: [RBW] Handling Effects of Shorter Stems (from the OT discussion in a previuos post on the New Sams in Sept)

2020-05-22 Thread Patrick Moore
This has been an interesting discussion, and I've learned something, namely that it seems that if a bike is designed to situation your weight in a certain position, you can mix up the bar and stems as long as your maintain the range of positions the bike was designed for. Stated like that it seems

[RBW] Handling Effects of Shorter Stems (from the OT discussion in a previuos post on the New Sams in Sept)

2020-05-21 Thread Joe Bernard
"It seems the only stability issue with a shorter stem would be some decrease in stability when riding with one hand on the bar." As far as my not-an-engineer brain can tell this would only be true in a situation - like a flatbar- where the shorter stem moved your hands back exactly as far as

[RBW] Handling Effects of Shorter Stems (from the OT discussion in a previuos post on the New Sams in Sept)

2020-05-21 Thread 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch
In an earlier post on the new Sam Hillborunes coming in Sept, “New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall” 5/16/20 The discussion went OT to the longer top tubes RBW uses in the MIT Atlantis, and the need for shorter stems when using drop bars . Patrick Moore expressed concerns about