Re: [RBW] Leaping onto an Atlantis
A tip of my virtual hat to this. Well said! -JimD On Mar 20, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Eunice Chang sleepyn...@gmail.com wrote: Emily, I'm going to quote someone who was wiser than me. If it makes you happy and enjoy the rides more, the cost is trivial. If it makes you ride more, that's a bonus. It's more of a quality thing. And if you can afford it, go for it. If you can't, you might want to look for an used Atlantis or a cheaper frame (Surly LHT comes to mind). The first time I rode an Atlantis, I wanted to ride it forever. Unfortunately it was on temporary loan, and I regret not buying it from the owner when I had the chance. Due to personal circumstances, I ended up with a custom mixte that cost about as much as a fully equipped Atlantis, and it was set up in Riv style, and it's been worth every penny. Never mind that I ride a mere two miles to the coffee shop, and not even everyday; every time I ride it I always want to ride more and look for new routes. Good luck with your decision. Eunice On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: If your used to Carbon then yeah Steel can feel like an anchor...after riding on steel a while it's just a mind set and that anchor still seems to get from point A to point B with some rose smelling along the way :-) ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:12 PM, tdusky tdu...@comcast.net wrote: If the the large Atlantis is a boat anchor I would bet the small is as well. This is just my opinion. As is everyone else making comments here. Tires will also make a huge difference on the feel of the bike. :) Tom On Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:33:29 AM UTC-4, Emily Hutchinson wrote: Hello, I am trying to talk myself into or out of a really pretty new Atlantis with all it's parts. It would be the smaller frame because I'm short and average weight 130. The price tag is somewhere around 4000 all said and done and I feel stuck. My gut is pushing me in both directions because I've never ridden an Atlantis. I'm also out of country and can't just go find one to try. I love touring and I'd love to do some long international and national tours and live in Colorado with hills. Okay thanks.Someone help tip me! Is it irresponsible to spend this much money? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/Zv-tjShaOw8/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Leaping onto an Atlantis
Well hope Emily comes back and gives us her verdict. My 2 cents, if you have to ask to spend money then you need to think about it some more. i have a QB and a Hillborne, both are great bikes but sometimes we get too romantic about it. You can get a similiar ride (thank goodness, and no doubt due to RBW existing) from other brands. Even a Hillborne will give you a similar ride to an Atlantis. Of course the Atlantis is nicer, and there's nothing wrong with wanting that, but don't let that sway you too much, functionally it's not better then other options. Also, 4K for a fully built Atlantis is OK to me, it is second-hand, if it's a typical RBW build, but not great. again just my 2 cents. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Leaping onto an Atlantis
Irresponsible? Not irresponsible at all. The Atlantis is super-duper for road and gravel tours. I've taken mine across the US twice, as well as on many other tours. If you can afford it and you'll ride it, I say go for it. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Emily Hutchinson ehutchinson...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to talk myself into or out of a really pretty new Atlantis with all it's parts. It would be the smaller frame because I'm short and average weight 130. The price tag is somewhere around 4000 all said and done and I feel stuck. My gut is pushing me in both directions because I've never ridden an Atlantis. I'm also out of country and can't just go find one to try. I love touring and I'd love to do some long international and national tours and live in Colorado with hills. Okay thanks.Someone help tip me! Is it irresponsible to spend this much money? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Leaping onto an Atlantis
I can't add much to this, but I will say that I believe that if the Atlantis is the sort of bike you want, then you can't get a much better one of that sort... Steve On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:50 AM, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: A tip of my virtual hat to this. Well said! -JimD On Mar 20, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Eunice Chang sleepyn...@gmail.com wrote: Emily, I'm going to quote someone who was wiser than me. If it makes you happy and enjoy the rides more, the cost is trivial. If it makes you ride more, that's a bonus. It's more of a quality thing. And if you can afford it, go for it. If you can't, you might want to look for an used Atlantis or a cheaper frame (Surly LHT comes to mind). The first time I rode an Atlantis, I wanted to ride it forever. Unfortunately it was on temporary loan, and I regret not buying it from the owner when I had the chance. Due to personal circumstances, I ended up with a custom mixte that cost about as much as a fully equipped Atlantis, and it was set up in Riv style, and it's been worth every penny. Never mind that I ride a mere two miles to the coffee shop, and not even everyday; every time I ride it I always want to ride more and look for new routes. Good luck with your decision. Eunice On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote: If your used to Carbon then yeah Steel can feel like an anchor...after riding on steel a while it's just a mind set and that anchor still seems to get from point A to point B with some rose smelling along the way :-) ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:12 PM, tdusky tdu...@comcast.net wrote: If the the large Atlantis is a boat anchor I would bet the small is as well. This is just my opinion. As is everyone else making comments here. Tires will also make a huge difference on the feel of the bike. :) Tom On Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:33:29 AM UTC-4, Emily Hutchinson wrote: Hello, I am trying to talk myself into or out of a really pretty new Atlantis with all it's parts. It would be the smaller frame because I'm short and average weight 130. The price tag is somewhere around 4000 all said and done and I feel stuck. My gut is pushing me in both directions because I've never ridden an Atlantis. I'm also out of country and can't just go find one to try. I love touring and I'd love to do some long international and national tours and live in Colorado with hills. Okay thanks.Someone help tip me! Is it irresponsible to spend this much money? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/Zv-tjShaOw8/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Leaping onto an Atlantis
Hello, I am trying to talk myself into or out of a really pretty new Atlantis with all it's parts. It would be the smaller frame because I'm short and average weight 130. The price tag is somewhere around 4000 all said and done and I feel stuck. My gut is pushing me in both directions because I've never ridden an Atlantis. I'm also out of country and can't just go find one to try. I love touring and I'd love to do some long international and national tours and live in Colorado with hills. Okay thanks.Someone help tip me! Is it irresponsible to spend this much money? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Leaping onto an Atlantis
You ask about responsibility and therefore the moral issue. Note that IMO the question is not merely about the money, its about the money as used for a particular purpose. The guiding moral principle is to buy only what will reasonably use. If you plan to put miles on it and keep it for a long time, I don't see that it is irresponsible, given Rivendell bicycles' undoubted good handling and build qualities. To buy it for reasons of prestige, even if subtle, would be wrong, but with bikes I think that is largely a male sin. $4,000 for a toy or on a whim is foolish; $4K on something that will be a useful and pleasing tool for a lifetime is not, IMO. (And if you can get one nicely built for $4K, I'd say that was a pretty good deal.) Moreover, Rivendells are built, assembled,and sold by people paid fair wages with marketing costs that (I gather) are relatively minuscule, so you are getting quality and fair pricing, and not merely prestige pricing. I've skirted and indeed far overshot the irresponsible boundary myself on many occasions and for many things, and to some degree I've learned my lesson. I've never owned an Atlantis, but I've owned in total 5 Rivendells, and I know their quality and ride. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Emily Hutchinson ehutchinson...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I am trying to talk myself into or out of a really pretty new Atlantis with all it's parts. It would be the smaller frame because I'm short and average weight 130. The price tag is somewhere around 4000 all said and done and I feel stuck. My gut is pushing me in both directions because I've never ridden an Atlantis. I'm also out of country and can't just go find one to try. I love touring and I'd love to do some long international and national tours and live in Colorado with hills. Okay thanks.Someone help tip me! Is it irresponsible to spend this much money? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Leaping onto an Atlantis
If you have the money, or at least a plan to borrow the money and pay it back in a reasonable amount of time, I don't see the issue here. Unless this number of bicycles in your house would lead to S-1. But IIRC your partner is also an avid rider and a Randonneur, PBP ancien, etc. So no problems for you there. In my case spending $4K on a new bike I don't really need would lead to at least S+trouble. She doesn't get it...yet. I think the problem is, I really need to buy her a $4000 bike, then maybe she'll understand. Or maybe not. But anyway, if you want it and can afford it and will use it, then buy it. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Emily Hutchinson ehutchinson...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I am trying to talk myself into or out of a really pretty new Atlantis with all it's parts. It would be the smaller frame because I'm short and average weight 130. The price tag is somewhere around 4000 all said and done and I feel stuck. My gut is pushing me in both directions because I've never ridden an Atlantis. I'm also out of country and can't just go find one to try. I love touring and I'd love to do some long international and national tours and live in Colorado with hills. Okay thanks.Someone help tip me! Is it irresponsible to spend this much money? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
