Re: [RBW] MIT Atlantis and chain length
On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 7:15:01 PM UTC-7, WETH wrote: > > I can’t speak for all models, but they have this text at the end of the > description for Cheviots: > “NOTE ON CHAIN LENGTH: Because the chainstays of the 55 and 60 Cheviot are > longer than a normal bike, you will need to use two chains, or 120-124ish > links, depending on your drivetrain configuration. Start with 6 extra lynx > and use your best judgement. The chain is the right length when it pulls > the derailer cage free of and parallel to the chain itself when wrapped > around the smallest cog and the smallest chainring -- i.e., the derailer > cage will be flexed slightly. Here's the venerable Sheldon Brown's method, > for an alternate take.” > Would that be wild lynx, or semi-domesticated (OK, less wild) ones? I suspect if one uses wild lynx, the chain will be prone to jumping off the chainrings or cogs, even if they're caged by the derailleurs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7da86b3d-2216-43ff-93ce-f20e1dc0675e%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] MIT Atlantis and chain length
I was just about to mention that. I believe the chain note used to be on various model descriptions, but seems to have faded out with subsequent site updates. I suppose at some point Riv folks are expected to expect the chain issue like tandem and recumbent people do. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5f9cd3db-601b-462d-be5e-fbfffe712e49%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] MIT Atlantis and chain length
I can’t speak for all models, but they have this text at the end of the description for Cheviots: “NOTE ON CHAIN LENGTH: Because the chainstays of the 55 and 60 Cheviot are longer than a normal bike, you will need to use two chains, or 120-124ish links, depending on your drivetrain configuration. Start with 6 extra lynx and use your best judgement. The chain is the right length when it pulls the derailer cage free of and parallel to the chain itself when wrapped around the smallest cog and the smallest chainring -- i.e., the derailer cage will be flexed slightly. Here's the venerable Sheldon Brown's method, for an alternate take.” https://www.rivbike.com/collections/framesets/products/frame-cheviot All the best, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7c637cd3-d863-40df-a086-3bfad33c8089%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] MIT Atlantis and chain length
Thanks John and everybody else! Even with the longer chain and the big pulley wheel on the Altus, it gets a little nutty in the big-big and small-small combos. And yes, I think Riv should put a note on website that certain drivetrains might require a longer chain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8bc1acfd-4236-4bc5-8697-c92a26c8e608%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] MIT Atlantis and chain length
John, Actually, I bought the frame from a third party, not directly from Riv. I’ve had nothing but stellar customer service every time I interact with them, so I’d like to think they would give folks who buy frames a heads up on something like that. ~Mark Raleigh, NC > On Jul 3, 2019, at 21:22, 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch > wrote: > > Mark > > Wouldn't be nice if RBW told you this when you bought the frame (VBG)?? An > informed consumer is the best customer. > > John Hawrylak > Woodstown NJ > >> On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 8:19:52 PM UTC-4, esoterica etc wrote: >> >> I came upon this same issue as I’m building up a Clem (with similar >> chainstay length to the MIT Atlantis) from just a frame. I contacted Riv to >> find out what length of chain was needed, and Will responded that they sell >> KMC chain in bulk and can cut you the proper length based on your chainring >> and cassette. Seems like the best option- that way you don’t have to worry >> about splicing chains or using two master links. Plus, you’ll be supporting >> Riv at the same time. Win-win in my book. >> >> ~Mark >> Raleigh, NC >> >> >> > On Jul 3, 2019, at 20:06, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY >> > wrote: >> > >> > New school says two masterlinks and Grant's your uncle, but that might >> > make me like school in summer? I know the skills of chain pinning, and I >> > respect the game, but masterlinks are s easy. >> > -Kai >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> > email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/015e5acc-a91d-4278-9d54-82003ae05005%40googlegroups.com. >> > >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9c40bace-9e43-455d-8e9f-f34ba15cd7c1%40googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/B5057ADD-3642-45A1-AEAB-848E3E197BF5%40gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] MIT Atlantis and chain length
Mark Wouldn't be nice if RBW told you this when you bought the frame (VBG)?? An informed consumer is the best customer. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 8:19:52 PM UTC-4, esoterica etc wrote: > > > I came upon this same issue as I’m building up a Clem (with similar > chainstay length to the MIT Atlantis) from just a frame. I contacted Riv to > find out what length of chain was needed, and Will responded that they sell > KMC chain in bulk and can cut you the proper length based on your chainring > and cassette. Seems like the best option- that way you don’t have to worry > about splicing chains or using two master links. Plus, you’ll be supporting > Riv at the same time. Win-win in my book. > > ~Mark > Raleigh, NC > > > > On Jul 3, 2019, at 20:06, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY > wrote: > > > > New school says two masterlinks and Grant's your uncle, but that might > make me like school in summer? I know the skills of chain pinning, and I > respect the game, but masterlinks are s easy. > > -Kai > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com . > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > . > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/015e5acc-a91d-4278-9d54-82003ae05005%40googlegroups.com. > > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9c40bace-9e43-455d-8e9f-f34ba15cd7c1%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] MIT Atlantis and chain length
I came upon this same issue as I’m building up a Clem (with similar chainstay length to the MIT Atlantis) from just a frame. I contacted Riv to find out what length of chain was needed, and Will responded that they sell KMC chain in bulk and can cut you the proper length based on your chainring and cassette. Seems like the best option- that way you don’t have to worry about splicing chains or using two master links. Plus, you’ll be supporting Riv at the same time. Win-win in my book. ~Mark Raleigh, NC > On Jul 3, 2019, at 20:06, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY > wrote: > > New school says two masterlinks and Grant's your uncle, but that might make > me like school in summer? I know the skills of chain pinning, and I respect > the game, but masterlinks are s easy. > -Kai > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/015e5acc-a91d-4278-9d54-82003ae05005%40googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2896EEBB-E716-470C-B733-4659887B669F%40gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] MIT Atlantis and chain length
Use masterlinks. It is so fiddly to get the pins popped in properly, and even when I thought I did, SNAP! POP! POP! go chains on a climb. Hasn't happened since I shifted to masterlinks for any chain connection work. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2059da6f-cf76-4ff5-abc2-36b927eed967%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] MIT Atlantis and chain length
New school says two masterlinks and Grant's your uncle, but that might make me like school in summer? I know the skills of chain pinning, and I respect the game, but masterlinks are s easy. -Kai -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/015e5acc-a91d-4278-9d54-82003ae05005%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] MIT Atlantis and chain length
So, I bought an MIT Atlantis from a fellow member of the bunch, and am learning the pros and cons of those eeeaaalllyyy long chainstays. They provide a nice comfy ride, but caused me some head scratching when it came to fitting a chain. I set up the Atlantis as traditional rambler/tourer with drop bars, bar end shifters, triple crankset, an 8 speed cassette and Altus front and rear derailleurs. After reading that Riv uses KMC 116 link chains, I put one on my new ride. No go; in the big ring, the derailleur stretches too much. So, back to the shop I went for another chain to add 6 links to the original chain. Time to bust out the old school skill of breaking and re-pinning the chain. Am I the only one to experience this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/06ccfff1-9fce-48d8-be5c-02b726ef4fee%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
