[RBW] Re: $1800 a fair price for a 53cm Susie? 2-piece silver crankset included

[Joe Bernard]

"I guess the Susie is worth hanging onto. ;-) "

Hehe, it is. I have a 53 I bought for an ebike conversion I then decided 
not to do, and now I'm not sure why I need a custom *and *a Susie. But 
every time I try to talk myself into selling it I go for a ride and talk 
myself right back out it! They're really nice bikes. 

Joe Bernard


On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 7:02:52 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
wrote:

> Turns our the seller backed out anyway, so it's moot at this point. Thanks 
> for feedback, though. I guess the Susie is worth hanging onto. ;-)
>
> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 11:28:53 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Yes and Riv timelines were meaningless *before *a worldwide frames/parts 
>> shortage during a bike boom. If you see a used Riv you like and you can 
>> possibly justify the price, *buy it. *
>>
>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 7:32:56 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Supposedly, a new batch is coming late this year so I would factor that 
>>> in if there's any concern about its used-ness, but if it's a local pickup 
>>> (ie no shipping on top of that cost), a 'free' Silver 2pc crankset for the 
>>> price of a new frameset would be alright by my COVID boom-adjusted 
>>> standards! 
>>>
>>> On Monday, 12 July 2021 at 14:43:21 UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 There's a Susie and Cheviot on SF Bay Craigslist that are probably 
 optimistically priced, but a complete 45cm Clem L listed at $1600 is gone. 
 I'll bet they got at or near asking price, which is about what a new one 
 costs. 



 On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 2:15:38 PM UTC-7 Ed Carolipio wrote:

> Probably where the market is for the Gus + Susie right now: long 
> production schedule, new Riv model so not a big used market, no real 
> comparable designs so hard to find an alternative, and the people who 
> have 
> them tend to hold onto them. Maybe ask the seller if they could include 
> other parts they have on or for the bike (e.g., brakes, seatpost) to take 
> some of the sting out?
>
> --Ed C.
>
> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 9:58:31 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> A friend is considering buying a used 53cm orange Susie, including 
>> bb, headset, and 2-piece Silver crank 
>> .
>>  
>> It's def been ridden hard but in good condition. He seems to be balking 
>> at 
>> the price but I think it's a fair ask, considering the size and color 
>> are 
>> most in-demand and difficult to source and it includes bb and crank. 
>> What 
>> do you think? 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: $1800 a fair price for a 53cm Susie? 2-piece silver crankset included

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Turns our the seller backed out anyway, so it's moot at this point. Thanks 
for feedback, though. I guess the Susie is worth hanging onto. ;-)

On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 11:28:53 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Yes and Riv timelines were meaningless *before *a worldwide frames/parts 
> shortage during a bike boom. If you see a used Riv you like and you can 
> possibly justify the price, *buy it. *
>
> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 7:32:56 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Supposedly, a new batch is coming late this year so I would factor that 
>> in if there's any concern about its used-ness, but if it's a local pickup 
>> (ie no shipping on top of that cost), a 'free' Silver 2pc crankset for the 
>> price of a new frameset would be alright by my COVID boom-adjusted 
>> standards! 
>>
>> On Monday, 12 July 2021 at 14:43:21 UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> There's a Susie and Cheviot on SF Bay Craigslist that are probably 
>>> optimistically priced, but a complete 45cm Clem L listed at $1600 is gone. 
>>> I'll bet they got at or near asking price, which is about what a new one 
>>> costs. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 2:15:38 PM UTC-7 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>>>
 Probably where the market is for the Gus + Susie right now: long 
 production schedule, new Riv model so not a big used market, no real 
 comparable designs so hard to find an alternative, and the people who have 
 them tend to hold onto them. Maybe ask the seller if they could include 
 other parts they have on or for the bike (e.g., brakes, seatpost) to take 
 some of the sting out?

 --Ed C.

 On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 9:58:31 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
 NY) wrote:

> A friend is considering buying a used 53cm orange Susie, including bb, 
> headset, and 2-piece Silver crank 
> .
>  
> It's def been ridden hard but in good condition. He seems to be balking 
> at 
> the price but I think it's a fair ask, considering the size and color are 
> most in-demand and difficult to source and it includes bb and crank. What 
> do you think? 



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[RBW] Re: $1800 a fair price for a 53cm Susie? 2-piece silver crankset included

[Johnny Alien]

Its pretty much a new price with a free crank.  If it were me I would 
probably wait for new ones to come in but if you need one now there aren't 
many out there so paying top dollar seems to be the name of the game.
On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 12:58:31 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
wrote:

> A friend is considering buying a used 53cm orange Susie, including bb, 
> headset, and 2-piece Silver crank 
> .
>  
> It's def been ridden hard but in good condition. He seems to be balking at 
> the price but I think it's a fair ask, considering the size and color are 
> most in-demand and difficult to source and it includes bb and crank. What 
> do you think? 

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[RBW] Re: $1800 a fair price for a 53cm Susie? 2-piece silver crankset included

[Joe Bernard]

Yes and Riv timelines were meaningless *before *a worldwide frames/parts 
shortage during a bike boom. If you see a used Riv you like and you can 
possibly justify the price, *buy it. *

On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 7:32:56 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Supposedly, a new batch is coming late this year so I would factor that in 
> if there's any concern about its used-ness, but if it's a local pickup (ie 
> no shipping on top of that cost), a 'free' Silver 2pc crankset for the 
> price of a new frameset would be alright by my COVID boom-adjusted 
> standards! 
>
> On Monday, 12 July 2021 at 14:43:21 UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> There's a Susie and Cheviot on SF Bay Craigslist that are probably 
>> optimistically priced, but a complete 45cm Clem L listed at $1600 is gone. 
>> I'll bet they got at or near asking price, which is about what a new one 
>> costs. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 2:15:38 PM UTC-7 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>>
>>> Probably where the market is for the Gus + Susie right now: long 
>>> production schedule, new Riv model so not a big used market, no real 
>>> comparable designs so hard to find an alternative, and the people who have 
>>> them tend to hold onto them. Maybe ask the seller if they could include 
>>> other parts they have on or for the bike (e.g., brakes, seatpost) to take 
>>> some of the sting out?
>>>
>>> --Ed C.
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 9:58:31 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>>> NY) wrote:
>>>
 A friend is considering buying a used 53cm orange Susie, including bb, 
 headset, and 2-piece Silver crank 
 .
  
 It's def been ridden hard but in good condition. He seems to be balking at 
 the price but I think it's a fair ask, considering the size and color are 
 most in-demand and difficult to source and it includes bb and crank. What 
 do you think? 
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: $1800 a fair price for a 53cm Susie? 2-piece silver crankset included

[Jason Fuller]

Supposedly, a new batch is coming late this year so I would factor that in 
if there's any concern about its used-ness, but if it's a local pickup (ie 
no shipping on top of that cost), a 'free' Silver 2pc crankset for the 
price of a new frameset would be alright by my COVID boom-adjusted 
standards! 

On Monday, 12 July 2021 at 14:43:21 UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> There's a Susie and Cheviot on SF Bay Craigslist that are probably 
> optimistically priced, but a complete 45cm Clem L listed at $1600 is gone. 
> I'll bet they got at or near asking price, which is about what a new one 
> costs. 
>
>
>
> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 2:15:38 PM UTC-7 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>
>> Probably where the market is for the Gus + Susie right now: long 
>> production schedule, new Riv model so not a big used market, no real 
>> comparable designs so hard to find an alternative, and the people who have 
>> them tend to hold onto them. Maybe ask the seller if they could include 
>> other parts they have on or for the bike (e.g., brakes, seatpost) to take 
>> some of the sting out?
>>
>> --Ed C.
>>
>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 9:58:31 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>> NY) wrote:
>>
>>> A friend is considering buying a used 53cm orange Susie, including bb, 
>>> headset, and 2-piece Silver crank 
>>> .
>>>  
>>> It's def been ridden hard but in good condition. He seems to be balking at 
>>> the price but I think it's a fair ask, considering the size and color are 
>>> most in-demand and difficult to source and it includes bb and crank. What 
>>> do you think? 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: $1800 a fair price for a 53cm Susie? 2-piece silver crankset included

[Joe Bernard]

There's a Susie and Cheviot on SF Bay Craigslist that are probably 
optimistically priced, but a complete 45cm Clem L listed at $1600 is gone. 
I'll bet they got at or near asking price, which is about what a new one 
costs. 



On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 2:15:38 PM UTC-7 Ed Carolipio wrote:

> Probably where the market is for the Gus + Susie right now: long 
> production schedule, new Riv model so not a big used market, no real 
> comparable designs so hard to find an alternative, and the people who have 
> them tend to hold onto them. Maybe ask the seller if they could include 
> other parts they have on or for the bike (e.g., brakes, seatpost) to take 
> some of the sting out?
>
> --Ed C.
>
> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 9:58:31 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
> wrote:
>
>> A friend is considering buying a used 53cm orange Susie, including bb, 
>> headset, and 2-piece Silver crank 
>> .
>>  
>> It's def been ridden hard but in good condition. He seems to be balking at 
>> the price but I think it's a fair ask, considering the size and color are 
>> most in-demand and difficult to source and it includes bb and crank. What 
>> do you think? 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: $1800 a fair price for a 53cm Susie? 2-piece silver crankset included

[Ed Carolipio]

Probably where the market is for the Gus + Susie right now: long production 
schedule, new Riv model so not a big used market, no real comparable 
designs so hard to find an alternative, and the people who have them tend 
to hold onto them. Maybe ask the seller if they could include other parts 
they have on or for the bike (e.g., brakes, seatpost) to take some of the 
sting out?

--Ed C.

On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 9:58:31 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
wrote:

> A friend is considering buying a used 53cm orange Susie, including bb, 
> headset, and 2-piece Silver crank 
> .
>  
> It's def been ridden hard but in good condition. He seems to be balking at 
> the price but I think it's a fair ask, considering the size and color are 
> most in-demand and difficult to source and it includes bb and crank. What 
> do you think? 

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[RBW] Re: $1800 a fair price for a 53cm Susie? 2-piece silver crankset included

[Joe Bernard]

A year ago I would have balked but now? The worldwide bike/parts shortage 
has created an insane market which has dramatically affected used Riv 
prices, most of which are unavailable new from them right now. So yeah, if 
the frame isn't all scratched to heck it's fair. Someone will pay that. 

Joe "not selling mine...yet" Bernard

On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 9:58:31 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
wrote:

> A friend is considering buying a used 53cm orange Susie, including bb, 
> headset, and 2-piece Silver crank 
> .
>  
> It's def been ridden hard but in good condition. He seems to be balking at 
> the price but I think it's a fair ask, considering the size and color are 
> most in-demand and difficult to source and it includes bb and crank. What 
> do you think? 

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[RBW] Re: $1800 a fair price for a 53cm Susie? 2-piece silver crankset included

[Brewster Fong]

Is this for an entire bike or a frameset with bb, headset and crankset?  If 
the latter, I would say it is a bit high as you can find plenty of used 
framesets for less.  Of course, YMMV! Good Luck! 

On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 9:58:31 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
wrote:

> A friend is considering buying a used 53cm orange Susie, including bb, 
> headset, and 2-piece Silver crank 
> .
>  
> It's def been ridden hard but in good condition. He seems to be balking at 
> the price but I think it's a fair ask, considering the size and color are 
> most in-demand and difficult to source and it includes bb and crank. What 
> do you think? 

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