[RBW] Re: 700X42C Tire Recommendation

[William!]

Another vote for the Shikoro's. They are basically just fat Jack Brown 
blues – just as round, just as smooth, just as hard to flat. It's what I 
really always wanted in a tire for all the years I rode JB's.

Has been my daily driver most of the year – mostly paved, some dirt, some 
gravel. Ride them at 70 or 80 on paved rides and they roll like butter, 
otherwise 50 or 60 and they get most jobs done with aplomb.

I also tried the Supple Vitesse (~= fat Jack Brown Greens). Lovely, but not 
enough flat protection for my riding.

William

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wrote:
>
> Hi all, I'm wondering if there are any tires slightly larger than the 
> Little Big Bens I'm using now. Those measure about 38mm, and I have room 
> for a bit more. Would like to maximize flotation! I know there are the 
> Marathon Supremes listed at 42mm (40mm actual is my guess), and those are 
> probably my go-to tires. Just wondering if there is anything else out 
> there? These are for a tandem, so need to handle 80-85psi and a 400lbs 
> weight FWIW.
> Thanks!
>

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[RBW] Re: 700X42C Tire Recommendation

[Bill in Roswell GA]

I came across this chart showing wide tires that are gravel oriented and 
show whether they are tubeless compatible. 

http://ridinggravel.com/graveltires/

Apparently there are a lot more tires just coming out in wide widths that 
I've not heard of or seen discussed here. 

Things are just getting better and better in the big, wide world!

Cheers
Bill in Roswell, GA

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wrote:
>
> Hi all, I'm wondering if there are any tires slightly larger than the 
> Little Big Bens I'm using now. Those measure about 38mm, and I have room 
> for a bit more. Would like to maximize flotation! I know there are the 
> Marathon Supremes listed at 42mm (40mm actual is my guess), and those are 
> probably my go-to tires. Just wondering if there is anything else out 
> there? These are for a tandem, so need to handle 80-85psi and a 400lbs 
> weight FWIW.
> Thanks!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 700X42C Tire Recommendation

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

Ha! Those look like fat Rolly-Polies! Love 'em!

On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 3:44:40 PM UTC-7, a3inverter wrote:
>
> Also consider the Soma Supple Vitesse in 700x42c.  Very nice ride.
>
> On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 11:42:43 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>>
>> Leslie, I have MSOs and my Quickbeam... GREAT tires! Don't need the tread 
>> though, and want the extra 2mm if I can get it!
>>
>> So, I obsessively swapped out tires in the dark tonight (no lights in 
>> bike shed!). The Nomads I forgot I had (first world problems) fit 
>> perfectly! A purely subjective, five minute ride, first with the stoker and 
>> then without, makes me think these are perfect! Just the feel I was looking 
>> for. Getting close to that firm marshmallow ride that eluded me to this 
>> point! The Nomads are fantastic with a bit more pressure. Sidewall says max 
>> 80psi, so that's what I went to (Remember, close to 400lbs of team + rig). 
>> Their sidewalls are definitely thinner than the LBBs, but I believe I can 
>> feel the difference in cush (no, not Kush... at least not till November). 
>> Will probably degrade in my shed, as I don't get along well with skinwall 
>> tires. Measure 41.8 on 25mm rims. All systems are go!
>>
>> Thanks for the recommendations, worked out great! Might have some LBBs 
>> for sale, but will probably keep for back ups. 
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Leslie  wrote:
>>
>>> I absolutely love my Clement MSO's, in 700c-40, would suggest giving 
>>> them a try perhaps.  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 6:14:46 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:

 Hi all, I'm wondering if there are any tires slightly larger than the 
 Little Big Bens I'm using now. Those measure about 38mm, and I have room 
 for a bit more. Would like to maximize flotation! I know there are the 
 Marathon Supremes listed at 42mm (40mm actual is my guess), and those are 
 probably my go-to tires. Just wondering if there is anything else out 
 there? These are for a tandem, so need to handle 80-85psi and a 400lbs 
 weight FWIW.
 Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: 700X42C Tire Recommendation

[a3inverter]

Also consider the Soma Supple Vitesse in 700x42c.  Very nice ride.

On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 11:42:43 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> Leslie, I have MSOs and my Quickbeam... GREAT tires! Don't need the tread 
> though, and want the extra 2mm if I can get it!
>
> So, I obsessively swapped out tires in the dark tonight (no lights in bike 
> shed!). The Nomads I forgot I had (first world problems) fit perfectly! A 
> purely subjective, five minute ride, first with the stoker and then 
> without, makes me think these are perfect! Just the feel I was looking for. 
> Getting close to that firm marshmallow ride that eluded me to this point! 
> The Nomads are fantastic with a bit more pressure. Sidewall says max 80psi, 
> so that's what I went to (Remember, close to 400lbs of team + rig). Their 
> sidewalls are definitely thinner than the LBBs, but I believe I can feel 
> the difference in cush (no, not Kush... at least not till November). Will 
> probably degrade in my shed, as I don't get along well with skinwall tires. 
> Measure 41.8 on 25mm rims. All systems are go!
>
> Thanks for the recommendations, worked out great! Might have some LBBs for 
> sale, but will probably keep for back ups. 
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Leslie  
> wrote:
>
>> I absolutely love my Clement MSO's, in 700c-40, would suggest giving them 
>> a try perhaps.  
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 6:14:46 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all, I'm wondering if there are any tires slightly larger than the 
>>> Little Big Bens I'm using now. Those measure about 38mm, and I have room 
>>> for a bit more. Would like to maximize flotation! I know there are the 
>>> Marathon Supremes listed at 42mm (40mm actual is my guess), and those are 
>>> probably my go-to tires. Just wondering if there is anything else out 
>>> there? These are for a tandem, so need to handle 80-85psi and a 400lbs 
>>> weight FWIW.
>>> Thanks!
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 700X42C Tire Recommendation

[cyclotourist]

Leslie, I have MSOs and my Quickbeam... GREAT tires! Don't need the tread
though, and want the extra 2mm if I can get it!

So, I obsessively swapped out tires in the dark tonight (no lights in bike
shed!). The Nomads I forgot I had (first world problems) fit perfectly! A
purely subjective, five minute ride, first with the stoker and then
without, makes me think these are perfect! Just the feel I was looking for.
Getting close to that firm marshmallow ride that eluded me to this point!
The Nomads are fantastic with a bit more pressure. Sidewall says max 80psi,
so that's what I went to (Remember, close to 400lbs of team + rig). Their
sidewalls are definitely thinner than the LBBs, but I believe I can feel
the difference in cush (no, not Kush... at least not till November). Will
probably degrade in my shed, as I don't get along well with skinwall tires.
Measure 41.8 on 25mm rims. All systems are go!

Thanks for the recommendations, worked out great! Might have some LBBs for
sale, but will probably keep for back ups.

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Leslie  wrote:

> I absolutely love my Clement MSO's, in 700c-40, would suggest giving them
> a try perhaps.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 6:14:46 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, I'm wondering if there are any tires slightly larger than the
>> Little Big Bens I'm using now. Those measure about 38mm, and I have room
>> for a bit more. Would like to maximize flotation! I know there are the
>> Marathon Supremes listed at 42mm (40mm actual is my guess), and those are
>> probably my go-to tires. Just wondering if there is anything else out
>> there? These are for a tandem, so need to handle 80-85psi and a 400lbs
>> weight FWIW.
>> Thanks!
>>
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[RBW] Re: 700X42C Tire Recommendation

[Leslie]

I absolutely love my Clement MSO's, in 700c-40, would suggest giving them a 
try perhaps.  



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>
> Hi all, I'm wondering if there are any tires slightly larger than the 
> Little Big Bens I'm using now. Those measure about 38mm, and I have room 
> for a bit more. Would like to maximize flotation! I know there are the 
> Marathon Supremes listed at 42mm (40mm actual is my guess), and those are 
> probably my go-to tires. Just wondering if there is anything else out 
> there? These are for a tandem, so need to handle 80-85psi and a 400lbs 
> weight FWIW.
> Thanks!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 700X42C Tire Recommendation

[cyclotourist]

Wow, that would be something! I'd like those!

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Evan Baird  wrote:

> Compass has a new 44ish wide coming out right? Might clear on a narrower
> rim I bet.
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[RBW] Re: 700X42C Tire Recommendation

[Evan Baird]

Compass has a new 44ish wide coming out right? Might clear on a narrower rim I 
bet.

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[RBW] Re: 700X42C Tire Recommendation

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

Thanks for that one, Chris. 

I'm going to mount up the Nomads languishing in storage. I quit running 
 them on my single because at lower pressure they really flopped during 
cornering and that was a bit disconcerting. I think at the higher pressures 
I'd be running on a tandem, they will do great. I don't recall how big they 
got, at least 40. Maybe 42 I can't find anything listing max pressure 
recommendation for them, hopefully 80psi won't be too much. That will also 
let me judge better if the 45mm (nominal) Supremes would fit. That would be 
sweet!

To reiterate, nothing wrong at all with the Little Big Bens. They're just a 
touch below would I can fit and therefore want to max out capacity. They 
measure right at 38mm on the casing, measured between the sipping in the 
tread. Their thicker tread would probably feel a bit clunky on a single, 
but on the tandem with the extra weight and higher pressure, they feel 
good. 


On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 6:48:12 AM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>
> Surly has a new tire out called ExtraTerrestrial and it's being compared 
> favorably with the Mondial.  It first came out in a 26" x 2.5" version and 
> now a 29" x 2.5" but I've read that a 700c x 40 version is in the works. 
>  Supposedly a bombproof tire with surprising performance.  You might check 
> out some reviews to see if it's something you might be interested in 
> waiting for.  
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 5:14:46 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, I'm wondering if there are any tires slightly larger than the 
>> Little Big Bens I'm using now. Those measure about 38mm, and I have room 
>> for a bit more. Would like to maximize flotation! I know there are the 
>> Marathon Supremes listed at 42mm (40mm actual is my guess), and those are 
>> probably my go-to tires. Just wondering if there is anything else out 
>> there? These are for a tandem, so need to handle 80-85psi and a 400lbs 
>> weight FWIW.
>> Thanks!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: 700X42C Tire Recommendation

[Will Ashe]

Agreed. 

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[RBW] Re: 700X42C Tire Recommendation

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Surly has a new tire out called ExtraTerrestrial and it's being compared 
favorably with the Mondial.  It first came out in a 26" x 2.5" version and 
now a 29" x 2.5" but I've read that a 700c x 40 version is in the works. 
 Supposedly a bombproof tire with surprising performance.  You might check 
out some reviews to see if it's something you might be interested in 
waiting for.  



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>
> Hi all, I'm wondering if there are any tires slightly larger than the 
> Little Big Bens I'm using now. Those measure about 38mm, and I have room 
> for a bit more. Would like to maximize flotation! I know there are the 
> Marathon Supremes listed at 42mm (40mm actual is my guess), and those are 
> probably my go-to tires. Just wondering if there is anything else out 
> there? These are for a tandem, so need to handle 80-85psi and a 400lbs 
> weight FWIW.
> Thanks!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 700X42C Tire Recommendation

[Bob K.]

I like the Soma Shikoros. I switched them out for Jack Browns on my Sam because 
I couldn't fit them under my fenders. No flats thus far, and good protection 
despite the relatively light weight.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 700X42C Tire Recommendation

[drew]

I just swapped out 50mm marathon supremes (60$ shipped for the pair) for 
continental speed ride 42s. 
I like them so far. Wondering how long they'll last and if they'll flat a lot. 
Not sure they are stout enough for a tandem.
I find the Marathon supremes to be considerably more cushy than other marathon 
versions, little big bens or comparably sized big apples. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 700X42C Tire Recommendation

[Bill Lindsay]

"Would have just bought a Hub^3 in that case!!!"

Speaking of which, I saw a Raleigh tandem on the sales floor at CyclePath 
in Hayward today.  It must have been the Cadent model.  Mixte in back, 650B 
wheels, dual disc brakes and <$1500.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: 700X42C Tire Recommendation

[cyclotourist]

Nomads! I forgot about those... and I have a pair in the cellar even!
Brilliant!

I wonder if I could fit the 50mm (45 actual) Supremes. I don't think I have
quite enough room for that. 42mm is about my max. Cazadero and R are
going to be too big, but also meatier than I need. This is an around town
bike that I want cush. Considering a 650B conversion on it just so I can
fit fatter, but don't ride enough to justify. Would have just bought a
Hub^3 in that case!!!

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Any thread that suggests a Soma Cazadero should include a corresponding
> suggestion for a Bruce Gordon Rock and Road, just for equal air time.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 4:59:40 PM UTC-7, Will Ashe wrote:
>>
>> I recently installed the 42mm Soma Cazaderos on my Sam. I'm really
>> enjoying them for mixed terrain riding.
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 3:14:46 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all, I'm wondering if there are any tires slightly larger than the
>>> Little Big Bens I'm using now. Those measure about 38mm, and I have room
>>> for a bit more. Would like to maximize flotation! I know there are the
>>> Marathon Supremes listed at 42mm (40mm actual is my guess), and those are
>>> probably my go-to tires. Just wondering if there is anything else out
>>> there? These are for a tandem, so need to handle 80-85psi and a 400lbs
>>> weight FWIW.
>>> Thanks!
>>>
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[RBW] Re: 700X42C Tire Recommendation

[Bill Lindsay]

Any thread that suggests a Soma Cazadero should include a corresponding 
suggestion for a Bruce Gordon Rock and Road, just for equal air time. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 4:59:40 PM UTC-7, Will Ashe wrote:
>
> I recently installed the 42mm Soma Cazaderos on my Sam. I'm really 
> enjoying them for mixed terrain riding. 
>
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 3:14:46 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, I'm wondering if there are any tires slightly larger than the 
>> Little Big Bens I'm using now. Those measure about 38mm, and I have room 
>> for a bit more. Would like to maximize flotation! I know there are the 
>> Marathon Supremes listed at 42mm (40mm actual is my guess), and those are 
>> probably my go-to tires. Just wondering if there is anything else out 
>> there? These are for a tandem, so need to handle 80-85psi and a 400lbs 
>> weight FWIW.
>> Thanks!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: 700X42C Tire Recommendation

[Will Ashe]

I recently installed the 42mm Soma Cazaderos on my Sam. I'm really enjoying 
them for mixed terrain riding. 

On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 3:14:46 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> Hi all, I'm wondering if there are any tires slightly larger than the 
> Little Big Bens I'm using now. Those measure about 38mm, and I have room 
> for a bit more. Would like to maximize flotation! I know there are the 
> Marathon Supremes listed at 42mm (40mm actual is my guess), and those are 
> probably my go-to tires. Just wondering if there is anything else out 
> there? These are for a tandem, so need to handle 80-85psi and a 400lbs 
> weight FWIW.
> Thanks!
>

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[RBW] Re: 700X42C Tire Recommendation

[dougP]

David:

The Marathon Supremes that are sized 40 mm / 42 mm / 1-5/8" (take your 
pick) measure 40 mm on my A 719 rims at around 60 psi.  The weigh 490 gr.

If you want to try them I have a pair of folding Mondials (760 gr) in 45 
/47 /1-3/4".  Don't recall if I measured them when I had them on the 
Atlantis.  I think I ran them at around 50 psi at Strada Rossa & West 
Point.  I like 'em off road but the Supremes are more comfy.  

Maybe 50 mm Supremes?  I think there was a "FS" post either here or iBOB 
for a pair.  Could be kinda neat on a tandem, if they'll fit.  Curtis uses 
them & could give you an actual width measurement.

dougP

On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 3:14:46 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> Hi all, I'm wondering if there are any tires slightly larger than the 
> Little Big Bens I'm using now. Those measure about 38mm, and I have room 
> for a bit more. Would like to maximize flotation! I know there are the 
> Marathon Supremes listed at 42mm (40mm actual is my guess), and those are 
> probably my go-to tires. Just wondering if there is anything else out 
> there? These are for a tandem, so need to handle 80-85psi and a 400lbs 
> weight FWIW.
> Thanks!
>

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[RBW] Re: 700X42C Tire Recommendation

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

Bill, I've thought about those, great tires, right! But am just a touch 
reluctant to have them on a tandem. The LBBs are just a little too 
overkill, and I think the BPs would be a little under. The Supremes are 
probably just right, but checking my options before I go on a Bike24 buying 
spree! It's an upright meander about sort of tandem, so really it's just me 
being picky...
Thanks!

On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 3:32:49 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> If it were me, I would at least consider Standard Casing Barlow Pass 
> 700x38 if I wanted more cush.  On a tandem I can certainly understand 
> preferring to go armored, though
>
> Bill
>
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 3:14:46 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, I'm wondering if there are any tires slightly larger than the 
>> Little Big Bens I'm using now. Those measure about 38mm, and I have room 
>> for a bit more. Would like to maximize flotation! I know there are the 
>> Marathon Supremes listed at 42mm (40mm actual is my guess), and those are 
>> probably my go-to tires. Just wondering if there is anything else out 
>> there? These are for a tandem, so need to handle 80-85psi and a 400lbs 
>> weight FWIW.
>> Thanks!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: 700X42C Tire Recommendation

[Bill Lindsay]

If it were me, I would at least consider Standard Casing Barlow Pass 700x38 
if I wanted more cush.  On a tandem I can certainly understand preferring 
to go armored, though

Bill

On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 3:14:46 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> Hi all, I'm wondering if there are any tires slightly larger than the 
> Little Big Bens I'm using now. Those measure about 38mm, and I have room 
> for a bit more. Would like to maximize flotation! I know there are the 
> Marathon Supremes listed at 42mm (40mm actual is my guess), and those are 
> probably my go-to tires. Just wondering if there is anything else out 
> there? These are for a tandem, so need to handle 80-85psi and a 400lbs 
> weight FWIW.
> Thanks!
>

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