[RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
Clarification: Seth said: If you want to feel good about it- buy the bike by donating to smiletrain. You get a smile b/c of the new bike and roughly (8 - 12) kids get a new smile, too. Riv says: Whatever you give, up to $300, we give you 75 percent of that in Rivencredit... So, you cant fund a bike with Smiles alone, but it's still a very generous offer. Mt deposit is in on a 62 Hunqapillar, and a donation to Smile Train made the early adopterz deal even sweeter. Thanks Riv! Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:18 AM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Clarification: Seth said: If you want to feel good about it- buy the bike by donating to smiletrain. You get a smile b/c of the new bike and roughly (8 - 12) kids get a new smile, too. Riv says: Whatever you give, up to $300, we give you 75 percent of that in Rivencredit... So, you cant fund a bike with Smiles alone, but it's still a very generous offer. Mt deposit is in on a 62 Hunqapillar, and a donation to Smile Train made the early adopterz deal even sweeter. Thanks Riv! Interesting - there was something in there earlier about 'funding a bike'. I don't think it was a $300 limit last week, but maybe I misread it. Thanks for clarifying it Marty. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
I can see that, not wanting canti studs there if they're not being used Okay, maybe a non-Rivish thought, but, since the Hunqa could be considered a 29er, what about using disc brakes? (Have to admit, I know little about 'em, seems like it just complicates things more than they need to be, but, if it'd function well.) On Feb 9, 1:03 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 2/9/10 9:54 AM, Seth Vidal at skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: But doesn't the Sam have the bridge in place for calipers anyway? Can't you have a bike set up for a caliper, but also for cantis, too? I like the cantis on my old Nishiki MTB, I have no objection to them, thought the idea of the canti-Rom was a great idea when I heard about it (I'm new to the Riv arena, they'd come and gone before I was here... so, I'm learnin' all the time). I think a bike with canti studs on it that is not using them looks a bit awkward. that's all. Agreed. You can remove the post so that you end up with the boss only. But, it does create a bit of a warty spot on the seatstay and fork. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: I can see that, not wanting canti studs there if they're not being used Okay, maybe a non-Rivish thought, but, since the Hunqa could be considered a 29er, what about using disc brakes? (Have to admit, I know little about 'em, seems like it just complicates things more than they need to be, but, if it'd function well.) you'd need the mounts for disc brakes and I can't really see a rivendell with disc brakes it seems wrong. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
I'd be into a Rivendell with disc brakes. (Would it cause dangerous freedom to change wheel size on a whim?) I've admired Co-Motion's versatile models (like the Pangea) that have disc brake options. -Jim -Original Message- From: Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 10, 2010 9:35 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: I can see that, not wanting canti studs there if they're not being used Okay, maybe a non-Rivish thought, but, since the Hunqa could be considered a 29er, what about using disc brakes? (Have to admit, I know little about 'em, seems like it just complicates things more than they need to be, but, if it'd function well.) you'd need the mounts for disc brakes and I can't really see a rivendell with disc brakes it seems wrong. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
Looked at the new Salsa... straight fork, no lugs, not a very nice paint job... I see why it's much cheaper to make and buy. The other competitor is the Rawland Drakkar... beautiful fork crown and curves, some nice frame features and takes discs for those who want them... much nicer than the Salsa's. But neither compare to the Rivendells.. they have everything ... nice forks, full lug work, beatiful paint jobs and most importantly great geometry. The slacker angles, and perfect rake clearly put their bikes on top of the heap and worth the extra money. now about that double top tube.luckily I'm about GP's size and would fit the 54 Hunqa so I don't have to worry about it. Mikey SoCal On Feb 10, 7:01 am, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: I'd be into a Rivendell with disc brakes. (Would it cause dangerous freedom to change wheel size on a whim?) I've admired Co-Motion's versatile models (like the Pangea) that have disc brake options. -Jim -Original Message- From: Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 10, 2010 9:35 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: I can see that, not wanting canti studs there if they're not being used Okay, maybe a non-Rivish thought, but, since the Hunqa could be considered a 29er, what about using disc brakes? (Have to admit, I know little about 'em, seems like it just complicates things more than they need to be, but, if it'd function well.) you'd need the mounts for disc brakes and I can't really see a rivendell with disc brakes it seems wrong. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
The Salsa bikes tend to be nicely finished, paint-wise, and the Fargos and Vaya prototype I've seen were no exceptions. Of course, you may or may not like the color, but the Salsa paint is well-done. Having worked on and sold both Salsa and Rawland bikes, I wouldn't say one is definitively nicer than the other in terms of construction and finish. Obviously, they look different, which may or may not be of importance when one is choosing to buy one of these or a Hunq, etc. On Feb 10, 9:41 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: Looked at the new Salsa... straight fork, no lugs, not a very nice paint job... I see why it's much cheaper to make and buy. The other competitor is the Rawland Drakkar... beautiful fork crown and curves, some nice frame features and takes discs for those who want them... much nicer than the Salsa's. But neither compare to the Rivendells.. they have everything ... nice forks, full lug work, beatiful paint jobs and most importantly great geometry. The slacker angles, and perfect rake clearly put their bikes on top of the heap and worth the extra money. now about that double top tube.luckily I'm about GP's size and would fit the 54 Hunqa so I don't have to worry about it. Mikey SoCal On Feb 10, 7:01 am, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: I'd be into a Rivendell with disc brakes. (Would it cause dangerous freedom to change wheel size on a whim?) I've admired Co-Motion's versatile models (like the Pangea) that have disc brake options. -Jim -Original Message- From: Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 10, 2010 9:35 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: I can see that, not wanting canti studs there if they're not being used Okay, maybe a non-Rivish thought, but, since the Hunqa could be considered a 29er, what about using disc brakes? (Have to admit, I know little about 'em, seems like it just complicates things more than they need to be, but, if it'd function well.) you'd need the mounts for disc brakes and I can't really see a rivendell with disc brakes it seems wrong. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
So anyone who has an Atlantis doesn't really need a Hunq unless they like the idea of going to 700C. What about a current Hillborne owner (like me)? It seems there is even less reason to get a Hunq. If I need a more rugged bike than my Sam, I should go Bomba, it seems. The differences between the Hunq and the Hillborne seem very subtle. You can go to a 60. It looks classier. It fits in the sizing gaps. It's heavier and more expensive. On Feb 9, 11:40 am, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I'm confused. Why cover the same ( or so nearly the same that the differences become meaningless) territory with three different models (Atlantis, Bombadil, Hunqapillar)? Also, why a second top tube at all? I understand that a second tube would make a very (Very) large frame more stable. But, beyond that, what's the utility in a second top tube? Has anyone here ever heard of a rash of properly assembled bicycle frames, ridden in conditions they are meant for (i.e. stouter tubing for touring or mountain bikes makes sense) break because a second to tube wasn't employed? I'm open to enlightenment - nirvana even. ;-) Ron On Feb 8, 9:04 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I like how, similar to the Bomba and Atlantis, this bike covers the outer edges of all rounder territory: heavy duty touring, singletrack, and robust commuting. A winner, for sure. Esteban San Diego, Calif On Feb 8, 8:42 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: yes, 2.2 knobbies if you please... a real dirt machine and with 40mm Schwalbes a killer touring rig! Even in Elephant color! another home run for RBW. Mikey SoCal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
on 2/10/10 6:18 AM, Leslie at leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, maybe a non-Rivish thought, but, since the Hunqa could be considered a 29er, what about using disc brakes? (Have to admit, I know little about 'em, seems like it just complicates things more than they need to be, but, if it'd function well.) One of the things you have to do with full disc brakes is to beef up the fork to handle some very different and specific stresses. I don't think I've seen any viable disc-specific forks which aren't pretty industrial. On the other end, whenever I see a gorgeous frame with all all the necessary dangly bits for a disc on the left rear dropout, it just undoes it for me. There is a great deal of info about disc brakes out there, including front wheel ejection issues, how it changes wheelbuilding requirements and the applications in which is makes some sense. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Get your photos posted: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines Then I sat up, wiped the water out of my eyes, and looked at my bike, and just like that I knew it was dead -- Robert McCammon, Boy's Life -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
Doug Van Cleve has a great disk fork by Tony Pereira with a nice double crown and non-industrial looking curve to it: http://www.serotta.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42545highlight=pereira (sorry, you need to be a forum member to see the pic). From: CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:48:37 -0800 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer on 2/10/10 6:18 AM, Leslie at leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, maybe a non-Rivish thought, but, since the Hunqa could be considered a 29er, what about using disc brakes? (Have to admit, I know little about 'em, seems like it just complicates things more than they need to be, but, if it'd function well.) One of the things you have to do with full disc brakes is to beef up the fork to handle some very different and specific stresses. I don't think I've seen any viable disc-specific forks which aren't pretty industrial. On the other end, whenever I see a gorgeous frame with all all the necessary dangly bits for a disc on the left rear dropout, it just undoes it for me. There is a great deal of info about disc brakes out there, including front wheel ejection issues, how it changes wheelbuilding requirements and the applications in which is makes some sense. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Get your photos posted: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines Then I sat up, wiped the water out of my eyes, and looked at my bike, and just like that I knew it was dead -- Robert McCammon, Boy's Life -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
on 2/10/10 10:57 AM, Dustin Sharp at dsh...@runbox.com wrote: Doug Van Cleve has a great disk fork by Tony Pereira with a nice double crown and non-industrial looking curve to it: http://www.serotta.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42545highlight=pereira Actually, there's a link to the flickr set: http://tinyurl.com/tony-disc-fixed Those are some pretty beefy tubes he's using for the fork, but, Tony _nailed_ it! Another feather in that man's cap. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines Nigel did some work for some of the other riders at Allied, onces who still rode metal. He hadn't liked it when Chevette had gone for a paper frame. -- William Gibson, Virtual Light -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
The braking loads feed into the frame at different places using discs than rim brakes. That would have to be considered in the fork and rear triangle design. OTH, discs have it over rim brakes in wet conditions. Friends have disc braked REI Safaris and have been impressed with their performance, especially with a load. Probably not on Riv's things to do list, though. dougP On Feb 10, 6:18 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: I can see that, not wanting canti studs there if they're not being used Okay, maybe a non-Rivish thought, but, since the Hunqa could be considered a 29er, what about using disc brakes? (Have to admit, I know little about 'em, seems like it just complicates things more than they need to be, but, if it'd function well.) On Feb 9, 1:03 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 2/9/10 9:54 AM, Seth Vidal at skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: But doesn't the Sam have the bridge in place for calipers anyway? Can't you have a bike set up for a caliper, but also for cantis, too? I like the cantis on my old Nishiki MTB, I have no objection to them, thought the idea of the canti-Rom was a great idea when I heard about it (I'm new to the Riv arena, they'd come and gone before I was here... so, I'm learnin' all the time). I think a bike with canti studs on it that is not using them looks a bit awkward. that's all. Agreed. You can remove the post so that you end up with the boss only. But, it does create a bit of a warty spot on the seatstay and fork. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
But the idea is spot on. I'm pretty sure I'm getting an Atlantis soon, so to push myself along the decision-making process I made a donation today! -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Seth Vidal Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 11:18 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: You get a smile b/c of the new bike and roughly 20-40 kids get a new smile, too. hmm - the above should be 8-12 not 20-40. Sorry. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
A while back I mentioned that a 62cm version of the New Atlantis would be just right for me. With this announcement, I sent Riv a thumbs up, (tusks up?) and reserved a beast, so I guess I'll find out for real July-ish. Marty On Feb 9, 12:35 am, james black chocot...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 16:46, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/190 Hunqapillar looks great! I'm glad it's the color of elephant. James Black Los Angeles, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
Awesome! I was wanting to learn more about it. I particularly liked that color scheme on that Bomba, that's a great choice. Looking at the sizing, I think the 58 would be cutting it far too close, the 54 would be what I would need for a Hunqa, as opposed to a 56 for a Bomba. A Hunqa would be a bit less, but, I was interested in the 650B size (not yet committed, but, interested). I also like the idea of a second top-tube; a 56 Bomba would have one, the 54 Hunqa doesn't. Kudos on the early-adopter savings, I'm all for saving a bit. But, in this case, it may serve me better to hold off, then ante up the difference for a Bomba later on Unless. At one time, wasn't there talk of adding a second top-tube to the larger Sam Hillborne sizes? Of course, that'd end up back into a 700C wheel size... Has the Hunqa replaced that idea? I liked that orange on the Sam -L On Feb 8, 7:46 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/190 Cheers, John RBW Ulan Bator Branch Office -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome! I was wanting to learn more about it. I particularly liked that color scheme on that Bomba, that's a great choice. Looking at the sizing, I think the 58 would be cutting it far too close, the 54 would be what I would need for a Hunqa, as opposed to a 56 for a Bomba. A Hunqa would be a bit less, but, I was interested in the 650B size (not yet committed, but, interested). I also like the idea of a second top-tube; a 56 Bomba would have one, the 54 Hunqa doesn't. Kudos on the early-adopter savings, I'm all for saving a bit. But, in this case, it may serve me better to hold off, then ante up the difference for a Bomba later on Unless. At one time, wasn't there talk of adding a second top-tube to the larger Sam Hillborne sizes? Of course, that'd end up back into a 700C wheel size... Has the Hunqa replaced that idea? I liked that orange on the Sam If what I read at hiawatha cyclery's blog is right then it sounds like the new sams will be long-reach calipers, not cantis/v-brakes that it has been and orange. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
If what I read at hiawatha cyclery's blog is right then it sounds like the new sams will be long-reach calipers, not cantis/v-brakes that it has been and orange. -sv I read that to and think it's a good idea. I know some folks are going to grumble but the Silver brakes work great and are so simple to set- up. The Silvers seem more appropriate given the SH seems more of a country bike than a touring or adventure bike. The Hunka seems great, like a Rivish Fargo although really the Fargo is more Rivsh than Salsish if you know what I mean. The Hunka would very nicely round out my Riv stable which has gotta bit out of hand lately with the acquisition of a QB. Perhaps I'll let go the Rambouillet and pick-up a Hunka at some point. --mike (who is wondering if this thread will now digress into yet another discussion on the merits and pitfalls of cantis and caliper brakes) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
I won't go there on the merits of canti's vrs calipers. I bought my Sam H to use mostly for mixed terrain rides including singletrack and am running 70x40 Smart Sams which are smallish knobbys so the canti's are my preference. And that Orange... it's beautiful. If this was going to be my only bike... a caliper braked roadish tire Sam would be great. If that is what really does happen. Perhaps each batch could rotate between the two different brakes? Mikey So Cal On Feb 9, 7:17 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: If what I read at hiawatha cyclery's blog is right then it sounds like the new sams will be long-reach calipers, not cantis/v-brakes that it has been and orange. -sv I read that to and think it's a good idea. I know some folks are going to grumble but the Silver brakes work great and are so simple to set- up. The Silvers seem more appropriate given the SH seems more of a country bike than a touring or adventure bike. The Hunka seems great, like a Rivish Fargo although really the Fargo is more Rivsh than Salsish if you know what I mean. The Hunka would very nicely round out my Riv stable which has gotta bit out of hand lately with the acquisition of a QB. Perhaps I'll let go the Rambouillet and pick-up a Hunka at some point. --mike (who is wondering if this thread will now digress into yet another discussion on the merits and pitfalls of cantis and caliper brakes) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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This bike looks good. It will be a great rough stuff bike. I really like the paint scheme. I like the idea of the sam using the silvers and cantis on the hunqa. Will help make them offer something different from each other.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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I'm following this thread with great interest. I like too have as many bikes as the next fella, but correct me if I have this wrong… The new Hunka (sp?) is billed as a cross between the Sam and the Bomba. So, following that logic -- and the What Model? Flow Chart on the Riv site -- if one already owns an Atlantis, there's little justification for also buying a Hunka. Or, am I missing something? From: jpp paste...@notes.udayton.edu To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 7:54:48 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer This bike looks good. It will be a great rough stuff bike. I really like the paint scheme. I like the idea of the sam using the silvers and cantis on the hunqa. Will help make them offer something different from each other.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I'm following this thread with great interest. I like too have as many bikes as the next fella, but correct me if I have this wrong… The new Hunka (sp?) is billed as a cross between the Sam and the Bomba. So, following that logic -- and the What Model? Flow Chart on the Riv site -- if one already owns an Atlantis, there's little justification for also buying a Hunka. Or, am I missing something? If you own an atlantis there is little justification for owning any other bike, except for liking and wanting to ride other bikes. The Atlantis can do everything, imo. Now, Liking and wanting to ride/own other bikes is all the justification you need. That's it. You like it, you want it, you have the money - go get it. If you want to feel good about it- buy the bike by donating to smiletrain. You get a smile b/c of the new bike and roughly 20-40 kids get a new smile, too. smiles all around. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: You get a smile b/c of the new bike and roughly 20-40 kids get a new smile, too. hmm - the above should be 8-12 not 20-40. Sorry. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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For those that may live near Walnut Creek, or happen to visit HQ in the next few months, (I may be there in June myself if all this DC area snow is gone by then) please take photos of any Hunqapillars you may see grazing around, and upload them here: http://www.flickr.com/groups/1358...@n23/ And once you have tamed and corralled one of your own, keep the photos coming. Marty ps: Agree with Seth on the donation thing - I made a modest one myself yesterday in anticipation of the future frame. On Feb 9, 11:18 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: You get a smile b/c of the new bike and roughly 20-40 kids get a new smile, too. hmm - the above should be 8-12 not 20-40. Sorry. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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This new model really piques the interest. Seriously (and I mean actual, really, serious) thinking of selling my Atlantis to facilitate a Hunqa. Plus, could move up a couple of sizes. (Atlantis 56. New Hunqa would be 58.) A couple of years ago 700x60 tires weren't around. Hence my Atlantis. But with this, it gets very, very tempting. Might even be tempted to go skinny and ride Marathon Supreme 700x50. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Feb 9, 10:17 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I'm following this thread with great interest. I like too have as many bikes as the next fella, but correct me if I have this wrong… The new Hunka (sp?) is billed as a cross between the Sam and the Bomba. So, following that logic -- and the What Model? Flow Chart on the Riv site -- if one already owns an Atlantis, there's little justification for also buying a Hunka. Or, am I missing something? If you own an atlantis there is little justification for owning any other bike, except for liking and wanting to ride other bikes. The Atlantis can do everything, imo. Now, Liking and wanting to ride/own other bikes is all the justification you need. That's it. You like it, you want it, you have the money - go get it. If you want to feel good about it- buy the bike by donating to smiletrain. You get a smile b/c of the new bike and roughly 20-40 kids get a new smile, too. smiles all around. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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But doesn't the Sam have the bridge in place for calipers anyway? Can't you have a bike set up for a caliper, but also for cantis, too? I like the cantis on my old Nishiki MTB, I have no objection to them, thought the idea of the canti-Rom was a great idea when I heard about it (I'm new to the Riv arena, they'd come and gone before I was here... so, I'm learnin' all the time). On Feb 9, 9:12 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome! I was wanting to learn more about it. I particularly liked that color scheme on that Bomba, that's a great choice. Looking at the sizing, I think the 58 would be cutting it far too close, the 54 would be what I would need for a Hunqa, as opposed to a 56 for a Bomba. A Hunqa would be a bit less, but, I was interested in the 650B size (not yet committed, but, interested). I also like the idea of a second top-tube; a 56 Bomba would have one, the 54 Hunqa doesn't. Kudos on the early-adopter savings, I'm all for saving a bit. But, in this case, it may serve me better to hold off, then ante up the difference for a Bomba later on Unless. At one time, wasn't there talk of adding a second top-tube to the larger Sam Hillborne sizes? Of course, that'd end up back into a 700C wheel size... Has the Hunqa replaced that idea? I liked that orange on the Sam If what I read at hiawatha cyclery's blog is right then it sounds like the new sams will be long-reach calipers, not cantis/v-brakes that it has been and orange. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: But doesn't the Sam have the bridge in place for calipers anyway? Can't you have a bike set up for a caliper, but also for cantis, too? I like the cantis on my old Nishiki MTB, I have no objection to them, thought the idea of the canti-Rom was a great idea when I heard about it (I'm new to the Riv arena, they'd come and gone before I was here... so, I'm learnin' all the time). I think a bike with canti studs on it that is not using them looks a bit awkward. that's all. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
on 2/9/10 9:54 AM, Seth Vidal at skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: But doesn't the Sam have the bridge in place for calipers anyway? Can't you have a bike set up for a caliper, but also for cantis, too? I like the cantis on my old Nishiki MTB, I have no objection to them, thought the idea of the canti-Rom was a great idea when I heard about it (I'm new to the Riv arena, they'd come and gone before I was here... so, I'm learnin' all the time). I think a bike with canti studs on it that is not using them looks a bit awkward. that's all. Agreed. You can remove the post so that you end up with the boss only. But, it does create a bit of a warty spot on the seatstay and fork. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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I guess I'm confused. Why cover the same ( or so nearly the same that the differences become meaningless) territory with three different models (Atlantis, Bombadil, Hunqapillar)? Also, why a second top tube at all? I understand that a second tube would make a very (Very) large frame more stable. But, beyond that, what's the utility in a second top tube? Has anyone here ever heard of a rash of properly assembled bicycle frames, ridden in conditions they are meant for (i.e. stouter tubing for touring or mountain bikes makes sense) break because a second to tube wasn't employed? I'm open to enlightenment - nirvana even. ;-) Ron On Feb 8, 9:04 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I like how, similar to the Bomba and Atlantis, this bike covers the outer edges of all rounder territory: heavy duty touring, singletrack, and robust commuting. A winner, for sure. Esteban San Diego, Calif On Feb 8, 8:42 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: yes, 2.2 knobbies if you please... a real dirt machine and with 40mm Schwalbes a killer touring rig! Even in Elephant color! another home run for RBW. Mikey SoCal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
I think the second top-tube makes more sense when you think about it in the context of the 'expanded' geometry.Because the top-tube rises the way it does, the headtube for a given size is 5-6cm taller than it would be otherwise.So for a 62cm frame, you're looking at an equivalent headtube length to that of a 67-68cm horizontal-tt frame. Also many properly assembled single-tt frames, ridden in the manner in which they were intended, have met their demise- by accident. I mean, how many bent forks and buckled down/top tubes have you seen? They are usually the result of crashes, which happen all the time when a bike is being ridden in the manner in which it is intended (i.e. rider is human). There's tons of graveyard bikes out there with just those symptoms. I like the two top-tubes, but then again i'm partial because i love my bombadil. And as far as overlapping functionality with the the Atlantis and Bombadil, the differences are outlined in the flyer. Plus there's a difference in price. Personally, I think it's great that Rivendell is adding to their touring/offroad line-up.Last year they added the Roadeo, which as far as I know has the lightweight category pretty well sewn-up. On Feb 9, 2:40 pm, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I'm confused. Why cover the same ( or so nearly the same that the differences become meaningless) territory with three different models (Atlantis, Bombadil, Hunqapillar)? Also, why a second top tube at all? I understand that a second tube would make a very (Very) large frame more stable. But, beyond that, what's the utility in a second top tube? Has anyone here ever heard of a rash of properly assembled bicycle frames, ridden in conditions they are meant for (i.e. stouter tubing for touring or mountain bikes makes sense) break because a second to tube wasn't employed? I'm open to enlightenment - nirvana even. ;-) Ron On Feb 8, 9:04 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I like how, similar to the Bomba and Atlantis, this bike covers the outer edges of all rounder territory: heavy duty touring, singletrack, and robust commuting. A winner, for sure. Esteban San Diego, Calif On Feb 8, 8:42 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: yes, 2.2 knobbies if you please... a real dirt machine and with 40mm Schwalbes a killer touring rig! Even in Elephant color! another home run for RBW. Mikey SoCal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
Hunqapiller splits the difference functionally between Atlantis and Bombadil and is significantly cheaper. Just like Sam H. splits the difference between A. Homer Hilsen and Atlantis at a signficantly lower price point than both. On Feb 9, 11:40 am, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I'm confused. Why cover the same ( or so nearly the same that the differences become meaningless) territory with three different models (Atlantis, Bombadil, Hunqapillar)? Also, why a second top tube at all? I understand that a second tube would make a very (Very) large frame more stable. But, beyond that, what's the utility in a second top tube? Has anyone here ever heard of a rash of properly assembled bicycle frames, ridden in conditions they are meant for (i.e. stouter tubing for touring or mountain bikes makes sense) break because a second to tube wasn't employed? I'm open to enlightenment - nirvana even. ;-) Ron On Feb 8, 9:04 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I like how, similar to the Bomba and Atlantis, this bike covers the outer edges of all rounder territory: heavy duty touring, singletrack, and robust commuting. A winner, for sure. Esteban San Diego, Calif On Feb 8, 8:42 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: yes, 2.2 knobbies if you please... a real dirt machine and with 40mm Schwalbes a killer touring rig! Even in Elephant color! another home run for RBW. Mikey SoCal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
I am wondering if Riv will create a deciding between the Bomba and Hunqa document like they did for the Sam and Homer. At first blush I am not sure why I would choose one over the other unless I really wanted 650bs (Bomba) instead of 700c (Hunaq) but functionally they seem to be the same- maybe I am missing something? Not that it matters much I will be trying to decide between a Sam and a AMOS at some point. Any way you go I am sure you'd come up with bike you would love. R On Feb 9, 12:21 pm, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: I think the second top-tube makes more sense when you think about it in the context of the 'expanded' geometry. Because the top-tube rises the way it does, the headtube for a given size is 5-6cm taller than it would be otherwise. So for a 62cm frame, you're looking at an equivalent headtube length to that of a 67-68cm horizontal-tt frame. Also many properly assembled single-tt frames, ridden in the manner in which they were intended, have met their demise- by accident. I mean, how many bent forks and buckled down/top tubes have you seen? They are usually the result of crashes, which happen all the time when a bike is being ridden in the manner in which it is intended (i.e. rider is human). There's tons of graveyard bikes out there with just those symptoms. I like the two top-tubes, but then again i'm partial because i love my bombadil. And as far as overlapping functionality with the the Atlantis and Bombadil, the differences are outlined in the flyer. Plus there's a difference in price. Personally, I think it's great that Rivendell is adding to their touring/offroad line-up. Last year they added the Roadeo, which as far as I know has the lightweight category pretty well sewn-up. On Feb 9, 2:40 pm, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I'm confused. Why cover the same ( or so nearly the same that the differences become meaningless) territory with three different models (Atlantis, Bombadil, Hunqapillar)? Also, why a second top tube at all? I understand that a second tube would make a very (Very) large frame more stable. But, beyond that, what's the utility in a second top tube? Has anyone here ever heard of a rash of properly assembled bicycle frames, ridden in conditions they are meant for (i.e. stouter tubing for touring or mountain bikes makes sense) break because a second to tube wasn't employed? I'm open to enlightenment - nirvana even. ;-) Ron On Feb 8, 9:04 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I like how, similar to the Bomba and Atlantis, this bike covers the outer edges of all rounder territory: heavy duty touring, singletrack, and robust commuting. A winner, for sure. Esteban San Diego, Calif On Feb 8, 8:42 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: yes, 2.2 knobbies if you please... a real dirt machine and with 40mm Schwalbes a killer touring rig! Even in Elephant color! another home run for RBW. Mikey SoCal- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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Be sure to checkout Salsa's new Vaya model. Kinda like version of a SH/ AHH, although a little more tour-wothy. On Feb 9, 2:50 pm, Dan Abelson d...@abelsons.net wrote: I really like the Hunq and I am in the market for an all road/off road capable bike. I would get one of the sizes without the double top tube so that is not an issue. My guess is that I will ultimately end up with the Salsa Fargo instead of the Hunq as I can't currently justify spending $1400 or $1500 on a frame (The rumor is that this year there will be a Fargo with a less expensive LX part spec for around $1500 for the complete bike). Dan Abelson St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
Don McClung is one of the only builders I have seen who does beautiful double top tube bikes: I am partial to the Retrotec take on double top tubes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/retrotec-inglis-cycles/4317194725/sizes/l/ Arguably triple as the top tube is split. If Curtis ever gets it in the mail, I will shoot some pics for current classics. Mike Flanigan of AntBike does some nice double curving top tubes as well, but not so often any more. On topic, Riv consistently has some of the nicest bending forks among current makes whether manufactured or custom. I like the curved riv forks better on the Hilsen or the Riv mixtes myself, but to each their own. On Feb 9, 4:52 pm, Dustin Sharp dsh...@runbox.com wrote: Very few double top tubes have ever worked for me aesthetically. Now, maybe it¹s just because it¹s a big frame or something, but the big Bombadil in the Hunqa flyer is just awkward looking. Something about the sloping toptube, double toptube and jacked up stem. I guess that one really deserves the name hunqapillar because it¹s a big shambling beast of a bike. Don McClung is one of the only builders I have seen who does beautiful double top tube bikes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/awalker/10829494/ Anyway, love the Hunqa name and functionality, but not sold on the looks of the big ones. Also not sold on the need for a double top tube. That's OK though as I already own an overweight, overbuilt all-rounder touring rough stuff machine. Dustin From: Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:39:55 -0600 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] A virtual sales brochure, and special offer If I were at all in a position to get a new bike this year it would almost certainly be a Hunq. The only thing that gives me any pause about it is the double top tube. I have no problem at all with it aesthetically, but I'd ride it as a trail/gravel bike an I know i'd periodically need to carry the bike for a log bridge or stair climb or something. It doesn't seem easily shoulderable with the extra frame tube there. Bill Connell St. Paul, MN On Tuesday, February 9, 2010, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: This new model really piques the interest. Seriously (and I mean actual, really, serious) thinking of selling my Atlantis to facilitate a Hunqa. Plus, could move up a couple of sizes. (Atlantis 56. New Hunqa would be 58.) A couple of years ago 700x60 tires weren't around. Hence my Atlantis. But with this, it gets very, very tempting. Might even be tempted to go skinny and ride Marathon Supreme 700x50. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
It looks like its name. On Feb 8, 5:46 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/190 Cheers, John RBW Ulan Bator Branch Office -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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I sure hope they do a t-shirt with that graphic on it. This frame sounds like a winner. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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I like it a LOT! Good job Grant and RBW. Alex Moll north of Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
A man, now I have consider this one!!! Actually, it seems like it hits the sweet spot between the Atlantis Bomba that sounds just right. A 58cm would give me 2cm of stand over with 60mm tires.Not huge, but possibly enough! :-) On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 8:18 PM, amoll68 amol...@comcast.net wrote: I like it a LOT! Good job Grant and RBW. Alex Moll north of Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
yes, 2.2 knobbies if you please... a real dirt machine and with 40mm Schwalbes a killer touring rig! Even in Elephant color! another home run for RBW. Mikey SoCal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
I like how, similar to the Bomba and Atlantis, this bike covers the outer edges of all rounder territory: heavy duty touring, singletrack, and robust commuting. A winner, for sure. Esteban San Diego, Calif On Feb 8, 8:42 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: yes, 2.2 knobbies if you please... a real dirt machine and with 40mm Schwalbes a killer touring rig! Even in Elephant color! another home run for RBW. Mikey SoCal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
Yeah. I love how the company has expanded with new road-oriented models (hopefully the Soma-collab will happen hitch-free) and new fat-tire models. -Jim W. -Original Message- From: Esteban proto...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 9, 2010 12:04 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer I like how, similar to the Bomba and Atlantis, this bike covers the outer edges of all rounder territory: heavy duty touring, singletrack, and robust commuting. A winner, for sure. Esteban San Diego, Calif On Feb 8, 8:42 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: yes, 2.2 knobbies if you please... a real dirt machine and with 40mm Schwalbes a killer touring rig! Even in Elephant color! another home run for RBW. Mikey SoCal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.