[RBW] Re: AT 0154
Ryan, Glad you like it, but I told you so My sweet spot for the 26 wheeled Atlantis was the 2.1 Continental Town and Country tire with Albatross bars and a Brooks B-72. For you ~ the fun has just begun. - Frank On Dec 11, 1:13 am, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: The (unloaded) Atlantis shakedown ride was tonight. Wow! What can I say that hasn't already been said...I was afraid it would ride heavy, what with it being a touring bike with 26 wheels. Not the case. It's very spritely. If I want it to go straight, it does. If I want it to turn--a lot or a little--it does exactly what I want with no surprises. Ryan On Dec 10, 8:33 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Ryan: The Atlantis will grow on you; it's so versatile you won't want to part with it. OK, you may want to leave it in fully touring mode and add a lightweight go-fast, that I can understand. But if you did let it go, you'd miss it. If you absolutely, positively need a dedicated go-fast to keep the Atlantis company, maybe a Rodeo? That's both ends of the spectrum in the world of sensible bikes. dougP On Dec 10, 7:44 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: We'll see! I do like catching and releasing, though if one is going to stick around with me I think this'll be it. If not you're just an email away. :) Ryan On Dec 10, 5:50 pm, Frankwurst fbr...@jwperry.com wrote: I'll bet the Atlantis never goes up for sale. If it does let me know Ryan. I'm on my third through my own ignorance but I'd be happy to take that one off your hands if and when you decide to part ways. I won't sell the one I have now but I'd give it a sister with a different hairdo given the opportunity. Your going to like that bike. If not you know where to find me. On Dec 10, 7:13 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: I'm going to reveal my ignorance here but how do Sugino's AT cranks differ from the XD? My Atlantis came with XD triple cranks and a cartridge 115 bb. The chainline looked like the bb was too long but everything worked. When the original died, I replaced it with a 110. Chainline is perfect. The granny clears but not by much, so I have a note to self to use 113 next time. So what is about ATs that's so different from XDs? Side note on your seasonal desire for go-fast vs touring: Pop a set if light wheels with racy tires on your Atlantis. It completely changes the character of the bike. Looks funny as hell but it's a different bike. dougP On Dec 9, 9:43 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Lucked into a 56 Atlantis. Yar, thar be a fine vessel, be she. http://tiny.cc/63aSB To be finished once I get a long spindle BB for the Sugino AT cranks. I can't figure out if I want to go plain beige or crazy splash bar tape. Ryan- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: AT 0154
The XD has more flare/heel clearance. The arm's are angled outward away from the spindle hole, and thus can be used with a shorter BB spindle. They are also a bit thicker in profile since they are not forged in the same was as the AT's were. The AT is low profile, which means the arms are straight from the spindle hole to the pedal hole--no flare for heel clearance. Thus it's spindle has to be long enough to get them out past the point where they'll clear the chainstays. This worked better when they were new and rear hub spacing was 120-126mm, I think. Trying to fit the to my 135mm OLD frame was a challenge. Turns out my pedaling style appreciates more heel clearance and a Q-factor above 160mm anyway, so going with the XD's was not a hardship. But the AT's are sure pretty--very narrow in profile and beautifully polished. Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of doug peterson Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:13 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: AT 0154 I'm going to reveal my ignorance here but how do Sugino's AT cranks differ from the XD? My Atlantis came with XD triple cranks and a cartridge 115 bb. The chainline looked like the bb was too long but everything worked. When the original died, I replaced it with a 110. Chainline is perfect. The granny clears but not by much, so I have a note to self to use 113 next time. So what is about ATs that's so different from XDs? Side note on your seasonal desire for go-fast vs touring: Pop a set if light wheels with racy tires on your Atlantis. It completely changes the character of the bike. Looks funny as hell but it's a different bike. dougP On Dec 9, 9:43 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Lucked into a 56 Atlantis. Yar, thar be a fine vessel, be she. http://tiny.cc/63aSB To be finished once I get a long spindle BB for the Sugino AT cranks. I can't figure out if I want to go plain beige or crazy splash bar tape. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AT 0154
Cool! BTW - What spindle length are you looking for and are you going by the Sheldon Brown suggestions for the AT? On Dec 9, 11:43 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Lucked into a 56 Atlantis. Yar, thar be a fine vessel, be she. http://tiny.cc/63aSB To be finished once I get a long spindle BB for the Sugino AT cranks. I can't figure out if I want to go plain beige or crazy splash bar tape. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AT 0154
On Dec 10, 4:16 am, Cycletex clifwrightpho...@yahoo.com wrote: Cool! BTW - What spindle length are you looking for and are you going by the Sheldon Brown suggestions for the AT? On the Saluki/AHH; an offset 122.5mm spindle works well for a 2-ring Sugino AT, 127mm for a triple. John McMurry Burlington, VT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AT 0154
I'm going to try a Shimano BB with 127.5 spindle and 2mm of spacers on the drive side. I think that's what was recommended when I last checked the ibob archives. I'll let everyone know if it works. On Dec 10, 1:16 am, Cycletex clifwrightpho...@yahoo.com wrote: Cool! BTW - What spindle length are you looking for and are you going by the Sheldon Brown suggestions for the AT? On Dec 9, 11:43 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Lucked into a 56 Atlantis. Yar, thar be a fine vessel, be she. http://tiny.cc/63aSB To be finished once I get a long spindle BB for the Sugino AT cranks. I can't figure out if I want to go plain beige or crazy splash bar tape. Ryan- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AT 0154
I'm going to reveal my ignorance here but how do Sugino's AT cranks differ from the XD? My Atlantis came with XD triple cranks and a cartridge 115 bb. The chainline looked like the bb was too long but everything worked. When the original died, I replaced it with a 110. Chainline is perfect. The granny clears but not by much, so I have a note to self to use 113 next time. So what is about ATs that's so different from XDs? Side note on your seasonal desire for go-fast vs touring: Pop a set if light wheels with racy tires on your Atlantis. It completely changes the character of the bike. Looks funny as hell but it's a different bike. dougP On Dec 9, 9:43 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Lucked into a 56 Atlantis. Yar, thar be a fine vessel, be she. http://tiny.cc/63aSB To be finished once I get a long spindle BB for the Sugino AT cranks. I can't figure out if I want to go plain beige or crazy splash bar tape. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AT 0154
I'll bet the Atlantis never goes up for sale. If it does let me know Ryan. I'm on my third through my own ignorance but I'd be happy to take that one off your hands if and when you decide to part ways. I won't sell the one I have now but I'd give it a sister with a different hairdo given the opportunity. Your going to like that bike. If not you know where to find me. On Dec 10, 7:13 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: I'm going to reveal my ignorance here but how do Sugino's AT cranks differ from the XD? My Atlantis came with XD triple cranks and a cartridge 115 bb. The chainline looked like the bb was too long but everything worked. When the original died, I replaced it with a 110. Chainline is perfect. The granny clears but not by much, so I have a note to self to use 113 next time. So what is about ATs that's so different from XDs? Side note on your seasonal desire for go-fast vs touring: Pop a set if light wheels with racy tires on your Atlantis. It completely changes the character of the bike. Looks funny as hell but it's a different bike. dougP On Dec 9, 9:43 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Lucked into a 56 Atlantis. Yar, thar be a fine vessel, be she. http://tiny.cc/63aSB To be finished once I get a long spindle BB for the Sugino AT cranks. I can't figure out if I want to go plain beige or crazy splash bar tape. Ryan- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AT 0154
I'll reveal mine too. According to my limited understanding it was designed for a long asymmetric spindle and the driveside of modern cranksets like the XD take that into account so modern symmetric BBs work. I asked the bike shop to futz with it and the granny was still too close with a really long spindle. So I'm putting an XD on with a 113 BB and all will be well. Anyone want some AT cranks? But Doug, then what excuse would I have for the Rambouillet? :) I have 1.25 Paselas on the Atlantis now just out of curiosity with some 1.75s in reserve. Ryan On Dec 10, 5:13 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: I'm going to reveal my ignorance here but how do Sugino's AT cranks differ from the XD? My Atlantis came with XD triple cranks and a cartridge 115 bb. The chainline looked like the bb was too long but everything worked. When the original died, I replaced it with a 110. Chainline is perfect. The granny clears but not by much, so I have a note to self to use 113 next time. So what is about ATs that's so different from XDs? Side note on your seasonal desire for go-fast vs touring: Pop a set if light wheels with racy tires on your Atlantis. It completely changes the character of the bike. Looks funny as hell but it's a different bike. dougP On Dec 9, 9:43 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Lucked into a 56 Atlantis. Yar, thar be a fine vessel, be she. http://tiny.cc/63aSB To be finished once I get a long spindle BB for the Sugino AT cranks. I can't figure out if I want to go plain beige or crazy splash bar tape. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AT 0154
We'll see! I do like catching and releasing, though if one is going to stick around with me I think this'll be it. If not you're just an email away. :) Ryan On Dec 10, 5:50 pm, Frankwurst fbr...@jwperry.com wrote: I'll bet the Atlantis never goes up for sale. If it does let me know Ryan. I'm on my third through my own ignorance but I'd be happy to take that one off your hands if and when you decide to part ways. I won't sell the one I have now but I'd give it a sister with a different hairdo given the opportunity. Your going to like that bike. If not you know where to find me. On Dec 10, 7:13 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: I'm going to reveal my ignorance here but how do Sugino's AT cranks differ from the XD? My Atlantis came with XD triple cranks and a cartridge 115 bb. The chainline looked like the bb was too long but everything worked. When the original died, I replaced it with a 110. Chainline is perfect. The granny clears but not by much, so I have a note to self to use 113 next time. So what is about ATs that's so different from XDs? Side note on your seasonal desire for go-fast vs touring: Pop a set if light wheels with racy tires on your Atlantis. It completely changes the character of the bike. Looks funny as hell but it's a different bike. dougP On Dec 9, 9:43 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Lucked into a 56 Atlantis. Yar, thar be a fine vessel, be she. http://tiny.cc/63aSB To be finished once I get a long spindle BB for the Sugino AT cranks. I can't figure out if I want to go plain beige or crazy splash bar tape. Ryan- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AT 0154
Ryan: The Atlantis will grow on you; it's so versatile you won't want to part with it. OK, you may want to leave it in fully touring mode and add a lightweight go-fast, that I can understand. But if you did let it go, you'd miss it. If you absolutely, positively need a dedicated go-fast to keep the Atlantis company, maybe a Rodeo? That's both ends of the spectrum in the world of sensible bikes. dougP On Dec 10, 7:44 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: We'll see! I do like catching and releasing, though if one is going to stick around with me I think this'll be it. If not you're just an email away. :) Ryan On Dec 10, 5:50 pm, Frankwurst fbr...@jwperry.com wrote: I'll bet the Atlantis never goes up for sale. If it does let me know Ryan. I'm on my third through my own ignorance but I'd be happy to take that one off your hands if and when you decide to part ways. I won't sell the one I have now but I'd give it a sister with a different hairdo given the opportunity. Your going to like that bike. If not you know where to find me. On Dec 10, 7:13 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: I'm going to reveal my ignorance here but how do Sugino's AT cranks differ from the XD? My Atlantis came with XD triple cranks and a cartridge 115 bb. The chainline looked like the bb was too long but everything worked. When the original died, I replaced it with a 110. Chainline is perfect. The granny clears but not by much, so I have a note to self to use 113 next time. So what is about ATs that's so different from XDs? Side note on your seasonal desire for go-fast vs touring: Pop a set if light wheels with racy tires on your Atlantis. It completely changes the character of the bike. Looks funny as hell but it's a different bike. dougP On Dec 9, 9:43 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Lucked into a 56 Atlantis. Yar, thar be a fine vessel, be she. http://tiny.cc/63aSB To be finished once I get a long spindle BB for the Sugino AT cranks. I can't figure out if I want to go plain beige or crazy splash bar tape. Ryan- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AT 0154
The (unloaded) Atlantis shakedown ride was tonight. Wow! What can I say that hasn't already been said...I was afraid it would ride heavy, what with it being a touring bike with 26 wheels. Not the case. It's very spritely. If I want it to go straight, it does. If I want it to turn--a lot or a little--it does exactly what I want with no surprises. Ryan On Dec 10, 8:33 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Ryan: The Atlantis will grow on you; it's so versatile you won't want to part with it. OK, you may want to leave it in fully touring mode and add a lightweight go-fast, that I can understand. But if you did let it go, you'd miss it. If you absolutely, positively need a dedicated go-fast to keep the Atlantis company, maybe a Rodeo? That's both ends of the spectrum in the world of sensible bikes. dougP On Dec 10, 7:44 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: We'll see! I do like catching and releasing, though if one is going to stick around with me I think this'll be it. If not you're just an email away. :) Ryan On Dec 10, 5:50 pm, Frankwurst fbr...@jwperry.com wrote: I'll bet the Atlantis never goes up for sale. If it does let me know Ryan. I'm on my third through my own ignorance but I'd be happy to take that one off your hands if and when you decide to part ways. I won't sell the one I have now but I'd give it a sister with a different hairdo given the opportunity. Your going to like that bike. If not you know where to find me. On Dec 10, 7:13 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: I'm going to reveal my ignorance here but how do Sugino's AT cranks differ from the XD? My Atlantis came with XD triple cranks and a cartridge 115 bb. The chainline looked like the bb was too long but everything worked. When the original died, I replaced it with a 110. Chainline is perfect. The granny clears but not by much, so I have a note to self to use 113 next time. So what is about ATs that's so different from XDs? Side note on your seasonal desire for go-fast vs touring: Pop a set if light wheels with racy tires on your Atlantis. It completely changes the character of the bike. Looks funny as hell but it's a different bike. dougP On Dec 9, 9:43 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Lucked into a 56 Atlantis. Yar, thar be a fine vessel, be she. http://tiny.cc/63aSB To be finished once I get a long spindle BB for the Sugino AT cranks. I can't figure out if I want to go plain beige or crazy splash bar tape. Ryan- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AT 0154
It's a complicated story of chance and bike lust. Awhile ago I was trying to sell a 58 Saluki and got an offer to trade. It wasn't what I was looking for at the time, but it seems like every time fall/winter comes around I want a touring bike (then in spring/summer I think gee, wouldn't it be fun to get a new fast bike?). I was thinking Surly, but then got to thinkin', maybe that Atlantis is still available? And here I am. Now I can wait until spring/summer to build up the Rambouillet for my go-fast jones. Ryan On Dec 9, 9:46 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: So what's the back story??? On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:43 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Lucked into a 56 Atlantis. Yar, thar be a fine vessel, be she. http://tiny.cc/63aSB To be finished once I get a long spindle BB for the Sugino AT cranks. I can't figure out if I want to go plain beige or crazy splash bar tape. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
