Re: [RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-12 Thread Patrick Moore
If Heaven smiles on me, and God willing, and things go well, and the earth continues blithely in its orbit, while lambkins gambol and larks sing: I will have a size M, original edition (non-susp-corrected) Fargo frameset for sale in about 2 months. On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:39 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2'

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-12 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I visited my favorite LBS today and they had a Vaya and a Fargo on the floor! Two bikes I've admired and wondered about for a couple of years. I really wanted to test ride them but instead, I limited my test rides to the bikes I'm actually considering purchasing. I dropped off a frame for

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-12 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Vertically compliant, yet laterally stiff! On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 11:25:29 AM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote: Dude. Philip www.biketinker.com On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 9:33:35 AM UTC-7, Justin August wrote: Patrick- Your ride is here, in Crabln Fibre:

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
The mascot of my high school was the might fighting lambkins, and they never let us gamble. Sigh. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 5:14:37 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Those are a lot of Ifs. On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.com

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-12 Thread cyclotourist
Those are a lot of Ifs. On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: If Heaven smiles on me, and God willing, and things go well, and the earth continues blithely in its orbit, while lambkins gambol and larks sing: I will have a size M, original edition

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-12 Thread Justin August
Patrick- Your ride is here, in Crabln Fibre: http://theradavist.com/2015/06/introducing-the-salsa-cycles-cutthroat-tour-divide-bike/#1 -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-12 Thread Patrick Moore
Ooooh, oooh, and with Class 5 Vibration Reduction System. I'm still using Class 1 -- fat soft tires. Actually, it sounds very interesting and I'd love to try one, but I wonder if it can handle fenders and loads the way I hope any Fargo replacement I buy will. I don't suppose that there is any

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-12 Thread Mike Schiller
Philip, He doesn't divulge much about his geometry on-line but from what I can see about his Dirt Bomb , the BB is too high, HTA too shallow and tubing and fork too stiff. His dirt bomb is more MTB like than my Bantam which is a road bike version of a Dirt Bomb. I've seen a number of his

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-12 Thread Philip Williamson
Dude. Philip www.biketinker.com On Friday, June 12, 2015 at 9:33:35 AM UTC-7, Justin August wrote: Patrick- Your ride is here, in Crabln Fibre: http://theradavist.com/2015/06/introducing-the-salsa-cycles-cutthroat-tour-divide-bike/#1 -J -- You received this message because

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-11 Thread Chris in Redding, Ca.
Hey All, In Re Soulcraft, all I can say is that the results for me have been tremendous. I can't say better than the alternatives because once you have made a choice you no longer get to choose..so each choice precludes the other choices and the outcomes associated with those choices. If GP

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-11 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Soulcraft bikes, and the Dirtbomb in particular, have always been on my radar. Great to hear your positive experience with ordering as well as your love of the bike! On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 4:56:14 AM UTC-7, Chris in Redding, Ca. wrote: Hey All, In Re Soulcraft, all I can say is that

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-10 Thread John G
Radivist (John Watson) took the cover, I think. This bike? http://theradavist.com/2015/01/benedicts-romantical-clockwork-bikes-dirt-droop-29r/#1 On Wednesday, June 10, 2015 at 11:35:26 AM UTC-4, BenG wrote: My new issue of Bicyling mag has your bike on the cover. Story is about the dude,

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-10 Thread Philip Williamson
Ha! I was drooling over the DIrtbomb yesterday! Soulcraft sent out an email looking for a couple people who wanted to sign up for next year's NAHBS bikes (nice discount, but you have to wait nine months). Philip www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, June 10, 2015 at 10:54:36 AM UTC-7, iamkeith

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-10 Thread iamkeith
On Wednesday, June 10, 2015 at 9:35:26 AM UTC-6, BenG wrote: My new issue of Bicyling mag has your bike on the cover. Story is about the dude, no mention of the machine, but check out that bike. Lugs, fat tires, discs, non-aero levers, dirt drop or woodchipper bar, basket, bags aplenty.

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-10 Thread iamkeith
Here's one more option you might look at. Patrick. The Dirt Bomb by Soulcraft. http://www.soulcraftbikes.com/frames.php?frame_id=7 One of, if not *the* first semi-standard bike of this type available, outside of Rivendell. Semi-standard because they're built-to-order to your own

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-10 Thread Philip Williamson
I have a desire for a similar bike, but without the panniers. I'd like to have a custom frame to take the parts from the Gravel Roadster https://instagram.com/p/2u0o-SA5jD/?taken-by=biketinker. It's a Gary Fisher Utopia frame with a Kona P2 fork. If anyone has a larger frame like this (Utopia

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-10 Thread Mike Schiller
one reason I'd never have Soulcraft build a bike for me. I don't want a bike that rides like he likes... I want a bike that rides like I like. His Dirt Bombs max out out at 45 mm tires anyway.. so Patrick is out of luck. My Bantam is my version, more road bike than Soulcraft's Dirtbomb.

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-10 Thread Philip Williamson
What are the points of divergence between the way you like a bike to ride and the way Soulcraft likes a bike to ride? I most like the way my Quickbeam rides, so I'm interested if the ride of a Soulcraft is somehow very different. I'd go ride one, but I'm not in the market to buy one, so I

Re: [RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-09 Thread Anne Paulson
I really don't want to learn whether a Jones Plus could work with a Rohloff and belt drive. I don't want to know this. On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Mike Shaljian mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, The thing about the ride of the Jones Plus on the road is that it really is like a

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-09 Thread Jayme Frye
Oh man Mike those bikes are the bomb! The Mathews I find especially drool worthy. I want a build like that in the worst way. So disappointed that I can't get a fatter tire like a Quasi Moto to squeeze between the chainstays of my Rawland Stag. If you ever want to sell ... ;-) Cheers Jayme On

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-08 Thread Jim M.
Bruce Gordon monster cross: http://www.bgcycles.com/new-page-18-1/ Rick Hunter did a very cool adventure touring bike: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-08 Thread Jim M.
It's in ss mode in that photo but it does have a derailer hanger. jim m wc ca On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 12:10:22 PM UTC-7, Kurt Henry wrote: Jim, is that a singlespeed, or an internal gear hub with a shifter that I'm missing somewhere? Kurt Henry Lancaster, PA On Monday, June 8, 2015 at

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-08 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks for all the replies. As I recall one of my nephews, then 4 years old, saying when I took him to KMart's toy department and said, Choose 1: So many choices! I'll read y'all's posts in detail at my leisure. I don't want a touring bike or fat bike or a Salsa, thanks; I basically want a nice

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-08 Thread Will
Atlantis or Hunq. It's that simple. Or maybe... the new Clem. Though the wheelbase is kinda long. Before I civilized my Atlantis (with racks, fenders, and pitlocks for the urban jungle) I rode it free for a while. Imagine... an Atlantis stripped down, nothing on it except stout wheels with

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-08 Thread Kieran J
Discs, non-stout tube set, mega 29er wheels and rack provisions? Sounds like you need a straight-up custom, Patrick. I'm sure there are quite a few builders that could handle this. KJ On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 6:21:38 AM UTC-4, bertin753 wrote: I am thinking that, God willing, I will have

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-08 Thread Mike Shaljian
The OP does insist on disc brakes, so no Rivendells for this purpose, unfortunately. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-08 Thread Mike Schiller
Yea.. sounds like you want a custom... but 29er wheels 65mm wide. on a road type bike... I see problems.. wide Q factor, toe overlap issues. I've tried this and couldn't make it work. I ended up with 700x46 max to make it work. My 58cm Bantam

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-08 Thread Mike Shaljian
Patrick, The thing about the ride of the Jones Plus on the road is that it really is like a limousine. . . the extra long wheelbase smooths out everything. Even though it has a very long wheelbase, the bike still feels very responsive with the high (76 mm) rake on the fork, and I feel that it

[RBW] Re: Advice and suggestions for custom dirt/pavement allrounder?

2015-06-08 Thread Philip Kim
Elephant NFE seems like a great base as well. On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 6:21:38 AM UTC-4, bertin753 wrote: I am thinking that, God willing, I will have a custom frame built for local dirt-cum-pavement rides. Our bosque is so nice, winter and summer, and living within a good spit of it, and