[RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

2019-05-23 Thread masmojo
To me it depends on the bike &/or the handlebars being used; for drop bars I prefer the Technomic; for my Clementine, either is fine. Moustache bars? I've used both, but swerve towards Technomic. Albatross bars? It's a toss up. In cases where either works, generally rise and reach will dictate

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2019-05-22 Thread Philip Williamson
For bars that high, I’d go with the riser for sure. Here’s another Appaloosa built up with drops: https://www.pedalroom.com/bike/for-sale-rivendell-joe-appaloosa-30823 It looks good with the dirt drop stem, I think. Do you have a purple Onyx hub on the rear, too? If so, is it 135mm without a

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2019-05-21 Thread ctifusion
>From my experience with those bars, a technomic will flex too much and maybe >even be dangerous. I'd stick with the dirt drop. Brynnar Indy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

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2019-05-17 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 1:36:57 PM UTC-7, Jim S. wrote: > > jandrews, thanks for asking. here's a pic. > Good God Jim! I think you hit every branch of the ugly-but-useful tree with that dirt drop stem holding an upturned drop bar with Gevenalle brifters. And with purple-anodized cherries on

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2019-05-17 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Ah. I have seen the name, I guess I got it confused with the Kellys. On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 10:31:42 PM UTC-4, sameness wrote: > > Not Jim, but them there look like Gevenalles > . > > Jeff Hagedorn > Los Angeles, CA USA > > On Friday, May 17, 2019 at

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2019-05-17 Thread jandrews
Thanks Jim S That is looking very tall and very wide! I bet you'll end up lowering it and being quite comfortable in the drops. Also curious to try those brake lever mounted shifters at some point. Are you running G-One Allrounds 29x2.25 under those B65? fenders? On Friday, May 17, 2019 at

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2019-05-17 Thread sameness
Not Jim, but them there look like Gevenalles . Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 7:12:24 PM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote: > > Jim, what's the story with the shifters perched way on up top of the brake > hoods? Have you set up other

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2019-05-17 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Well, no worries about the handlebars dinging your top tube(s). Jim, what's the story with the shifters perched way on up top of the brake hoods? Have you set up other bikes like this? Are they modified Kelly Take-offs? Is this a thing that passed by my notice and I'm the only one in the dark

Re: [RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

2019-05-17 Thread Eric Daume
I'm going to vote for the Dirtdrop for really high bars. A Technomic with hugely exposed stem looks pretty odd. Or just buy a bigger frame. Eric On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 7:22 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > "Just so I'm understanding you: Technomic, right?" > > 藍藍藍 > > -- > You received this message

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2019-05-17 Thread Joe Bernard
"Just so I'm understanding you: Technomic, right?" 藍藍藍 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Aesthetics Issue

2019-05-17 Thread Patrick Moore
Those are some nice stems. I have to say that I prefer a lot of rise in the extension to 7" of quill showing above the headset. I suppose it's the light, but that orange bar tape on the bike with the nice blue stem looks as if it is eerily glowing from within. On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 2:25 PM

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2019-05-17 Thread sameness
Just so I'm understanding you: Technomic, right? Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 1:28:20 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote: > > It really doesn't matter in that seeing "the whole picture/story" every > stem/part/bike/thing makes sense for the given moment. A stem w/o a bar, a

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2019-05-17 Thread lconley
Once the handlebars are two inches above the seat, esthetics have kind of gone out the window anyway. I use Dirt Drop (10 cm - the 8 looks* too* funny with the different diameters) and Lugged stems on most of my Rivendells. The Dirt Drop is preferred on the commuters and off-roadish bikes

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2019-05-17 Thread Philip Williamson
For my bikes and my riding, I prefer a steel stem, painted to match the frame. Aesthetics. If you need to get the bars up high, a Salsa or Nitto riser is nice. If the frame has plenty of stack, a 90* or -17* stem works for me. Nitto riser: https://www.instagram.com/p/BvAwqExATif/ Salsa

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2019-05-17 Thread Evan E.
Whoa. I think this poem from Jeff H. should be taped to shop walls and work benches nationwide: * * * so much depends upon a dirt drop stem ...with Moustache bars or flared drops? In every case. ...with cruiser or North Road bars? Make your case. ...with porteur or Jitensha bars? Edge

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2019-05-17 Thread Carl
Isn't the Nitto riser stem in cro mo the best looking one? On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 9:46:40 PM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote: > > I know fit is paramount, but let's assume fit is not an issue. > > I just replaced a technomic stem with a dirt drop stem. My first reaction > is that the dirt drop stem

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2019-05-17 Thread Arthur Mayfield
I have a Dirt Drop on my Sam, and a Technomic on my Frank Jones Sr, and both were chosen for aesthetics, since either would have put my bars in the right position for me. I like the Dirt Drop on bikes with sloping top tubes, and Technomics on bikes with level or nearly level top tubes. When you

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2019-05-17 Thread phil k
I like both! On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 9:46:40 PM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote: > > I know fit is paramount, but let's assume fit is not an issue. > > I just replaced a technomic stem with a dirt drop stem. My first reaction > is that the dirt drop stem is kind of gangly looking. I want to like it.

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2019-05-17 Thread jandrews
Jim S, have you set this combo up on your Appaloosa? Care to share thoughts/pics? On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 11:30:06 PM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote: > > Jeff, how about dirt drop stem and crust towel rack on a Joe Appaloosa? > That's what I'm playing around with. -- You received this message

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2019-05-17 Thread Ash
I like the looks of Technomic/Tallux stems, but never understood the point of a tall stem with downward angle. If it had a 90 deg or slight upward angle I wouldn't have to raise it so high. So, while the stem itself is pretty, overall cockpit setup does not look all that great. If there was

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2019-05-17 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
But seriously, for the Crust Towel Rack I would use some good 1/4" anchors. Either that or make sure to hit a beam. On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 5:56:42 AM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote: > > That reminds me of the old joke, starts out, IIRC, This stem walks into a > bar and says, Hey, give me a

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2019-05-17 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
That reminds me of the old joke, starts out, IIRC, This stem walks into a bar and says, Hey, give me a wrap... On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 4:28:20 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote: > > It really doesn't matter in that seeing "the whole picture/story" every > stem/part/bike/thing makes sense for the given

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2019-05-17 Thread Garth
It really doesn't matter in that seeing "the whole picture/story" every stem/part/bike/thing makes sense for the given moment. A stem w/o a bar, a bar w/o a bike, a bike w/o a rider, a rider w/o a ride and a ride and everything included in that ride w/o Life Itself is unimaginable. Life is

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2019-05-16 Thread Joe Bernard
Crust Towel Rack throws the whole thing into the realm of madness. DirtDrop, 0°, whatever you want, it's madness! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

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2019-05-16 Thread Justin Schoop
Technomic all the way. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

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2019-05-16 Thread sameness
Controversial. The classic randonneur upsweep gets a No from me. The flare gets a Yes from me. The width confounds me. I say Do It. Bonus points if your stem is black. (You sure you don't need one of those zero extension stems? Those bars are about four feet wide.) Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles,

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2019-05-16 Thread Jim S.
Jeff, how about dirt drop stem and crust towel rack on a Joe Appaloosa? That's what I'm playing around with. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

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2019-05-16 Thread sameness
so much depends upon a dirt drop stem ...with Moustache bars or flared drops? In every case. ...with cruiser or North Road bars? Make your case. ...with porteur or Jitensha bars? Edge case. ...with regular ol' drops? Head case. Technomicon: The ratio of exposed quill shall not exceed that of

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2019-05-16 Thread 'Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch
Yes, Jim, I agree. I'd never use a Dirt Drop on one of my bikes, for that reason. . Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to