Re: [RBW] Re: Any weight difference in Romulus/Rambouillet?

2012-02-07 Thread William
kerning!  Exceptionally well played, sir.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Any weight difference in Romulus/Rambouillet?

2012-02-07 Thread Horace
Yes, but after taking kerning into account, the difference is much less.

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:36 AM, William  wrote:
> The much longer name : Rambouillet, means a much heavier decal, negating a
> significant part of the weight savings.
>
> Don't even get me started on headbadges!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Any weight difference in Romulus/Rambouillet?

2012-02-07 Thread William
The much longer name : Rambouillet, means a much heavier decal, negating a 
significant part of the weight savings.  

Don't even get me started on headbadges!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Any weight difference in Romulus/Rambouillet?

2012-02-07 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
There were some minor differences in joinery and dropouts, but they were 
pretty much the same frame with some simpler paint.

http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus


- Jim / Cyclofiend.com

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Re: [RBW] Re: Any weight difference in Romulus/Rambouillet?

2012-02-07 Thread Steven Frederick
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-02-07 at 05:25 -0800, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>> I would expect that the Romulus used more rigid seat stays and front
>> fork to support the canti brakes.  Maybe a couple of oz.
>
> The original Romulus did not have canti brakes.
>


Yeah, the Canti-Rom was an accident--miscommunication between Riv and
the builder.

Going by memory, the Rom was intended as a less expensive version of
the Rambouillet.  One color paint, slightly cheaper stays.  (not heat
treated?  single-butted? Not tapered?  Some small difference like
that)  I can't recall if maybe it had a slightly cheaper tubeset, too,
but it was a very similar frame and only weighed a tiny bit more than
the Rambouillet...

Steve F.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Any weight difference in Romulus/Rambouillet?

2012-02-07 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2012-02-07 at 05:25 -0800, Michael Hechmer wrote:
> I would expect that the Romulus used more rigid seat stays and front
> fork to support the canti brakes.  Maybe a couple of oz.

The original Romulus did not have canti brakes.



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[RBW] Re: Any weight difference in Romulus/Rambouillet?

2012-02-07 Thread Michael Hechmer
I would expect that the Romulus used more rigid seat stays and front fork 
to support the canti brakes.  Maybe a couple of oz.

Michael

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