[RBW] Re: Back to the Friction

2010-10-06 Thread Justin August
Thanks for all your input. I actually have a shop near me with a nice stock of 8 speed cassettes. Going to see if I can grab 2 cassettes for the price of a Harris custom and make one on my own! I love projects... On Oct 6, 3:11 pm, MichaelH wrote: > An 11/48 is one heck of a big gear, 118 gi.  I

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2010-10-06 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Hi! Well, one thing I've seen is that 8-speed cassettes and chains can be had more cheaply than 9-speed cassettes and chains. Even the front *and* rear derailers that are marketed as 9-speed tend to be more expensive than those marketed as 8-speed. On the rears, I'm not sure there's *anything* "sp

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2010-10-06 Thread MichaelH
An 11/48 is one heck of a big gear, 118 gi. It's actually a touch bigger than a 52/12. Do you really need such a big gear. My 44/11 yields 108 gi, the same as a 52/13. I find gi much over 100 have limited use. At the other end a 24/28 yields a very very small gear of 23 gi. Using such a wide r

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2010-10-06 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 04:34 -0700, MichaelH wrote: > Friction shifting does not require any extraordinary skill and > properly set up works perfectly. I would recommend you get the best > cassette you can afford. I run the HG with no problems, but when I > tried an inexpensive Sram, I had a lot o

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2010-10-06 Thread MichaelH
Friction shifting does not require any extraordinary skill and properly set up works perfectly. I would recommend you get the best cassette you can afford. I run the HG with no problems, but when I tried an inexpensive Sram, I had a lot of problems. I would also recommend a good chain, they shift

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2010-10-06 Thread Angus
Justin, I friction shift with 6, 7 and 8 speed rear clusters with Silver, Simplex Retro-frtiction and Suntour Bar Cons shifters. If the Silver's are jumping gears they have probably loosened, applying a bit of bees was to the threads seems to help. Angus On Oct 3, 3:31 pm, Justin August wrote:

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2010-10-03 Thread doug peterson
Justin: Cassette selection will depend on your kind of riding. You mentiona 48 tooth big ring. An 11 small cog won't see much use. 48 x 13 is a useful top gear, and you can get decent spacing and a nice low with that as a starting point. Harris' customs are around $60. A cheap option is 12-32

Re: [RBW] Re: Back to the Friction

2010-10-03 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 15:10 -0700, Justin August wrote: > Hmm... > I'm also wondering if I gain anything by going 9 speed over 8? Sure: you gain an extra in-between gear or two. You also gain a wider range of available stock cassettes, since the ranks have been severely thinned in 8-speed in the

Re: [RBW] Re: Back to the Friction

2010-10-03 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 18:12 -0700, Forrest wrote: > I don't know why, but I had slippage/ghost-shifting problems using > Silver shifters with a 9-speed cassette. When I switched to 8-speed > cassette, no problems. I prefer the shifting on the 8-speed over the 9 > -- less "micro" finicky, and you ca

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2010-10-03 Thread Mike
I've been using a Sheldon Century Special cassette (13-30) for the past 2 years and love it. Also, I use Silver shifters. I really don't miss indexed shifting. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, se

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2010-10-03 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I believe friction-shifting a 9 or 10 speed takes unique skills (which I unfortunately lack). I am currently running friction shifters on a 7 speed with great success. I had less success with 9 speeds... Once you go beyond 7 or 8 speeds, it gets more difficult to make precise shifts. BB On Oct 3

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2010-10-03 Thread Justin August
That is exactly the problem I had. Time to place an order! Next choice: Cassette. Harris Cyclery custom or off the shelf jobbie On Oct 3, 9:12 pm, Forrest wrote: > I don't know why, but I had slippage/ghost-shifting problems using > Silver shifters with a 9-speed cassette. When I switched to

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2010-10-03 Thread Forrest
I don't know why, but I had slippage/ghost-shifting problems using Silver shifters with a 9-speed cassette. When I switched to 8-speed cassette, no problems. I prefer the shifting on the 8-speed over the 9 -- less "micro" finicky, and you can get the same range. And I like the friction shifting on

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2010-10-03 Thread doug peterson
Justin: My experience with 8 speed is with the ancient Suntour Bar Cons, & I have no problems. I try indexing from time to time but the fussiness, even with 8, keeps me coming back to friction. I travel with my Atlantis so it gets packed & shipped. It always seems to take a couple of days on a

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2010-10-03 Thread Stonehog
Stick with eight - cleaner shifting in my experience. Of course seven is better yet. Mobile Brian Hanson On Oct 3, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Justin August wrote: > Hmm... > I'm also wondering if I gain anything by going 9 speed over 8? > I know that 10 speed is considered far less durable but what abo

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2010-10-03 Thread Justin August
Hmm... I'm also wondering if I gain anything by going 9 speed over 8? I know that 10 speed is considered far less durable but what about the differences between 8 and 9? -Justin On Oct 3, 4:54 pm, Powderpiggy wrote: > I am using a 9 speed cassette with the Silvers.   No problems here, > and I lo

[RBW] Re: Back to the Friction

2010-10-03 Thread Justin August
Hmm... I'm also wondering if I gain anything by going 9 speed over 8? I know that 10 speed is considered far less durable but what about the differences between 8 and 9? -Justin On Oct 3, 4:54 pm, Powderpiggy wrote: > I am using a 9 speed cassette with the Silvers.   No problems here, > and I lo

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2010-10-03 Thread Powderpiggy
I am using a 9 speed cassette with the Silvers. No problems here, and I love them!!! On Oct 3, 1:49 pm, Garth wrote: > No worry at all. They'll shift as many cogs as you want. Go ahead and > order them. > > If a friction shifter doesn't hold a gear, it means you don't have it > tightened enough

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2010-10-03 Thread Garth
No worry at all. They'll shift as many cogs as you want. Go ahead and order them. If a friction shifter doesn't hold a gear, it means you don't have it tightened enough. What makes the SunTour power ratchet so nice is you get a nice balance between tight enough that it won't lose a gear, but loose