[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-13 Thread Ash A
Btw, if someone of same height as me, but lower PBH were to use my bike, I think Albatross bar would work better. On Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:04:25 UTC-7, Ash A wrote: > > > In last 1 year I have done several 23 mile one-way commute rides on bikes > with drop bars. After every ride I

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-13 Thread Ash A
In last 1 year I have done several 23 mile one-way commute rides on bikes with drop bars. After every ride I *minor* pain and discomfort in various areas of arms, shoulder, neck and upper back. I keep finding ways to raise the handlebar. I was able to reduce the discomfort by about 50%.

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-12 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
Hi. Great looking bikes! Can you tell me which Notto flat bars are on your Heron? I have Soma's Noah's Arc on one of my bikes but these look nice. On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 5:33:26 PM UTC-4, reynoldslugs wrote: > > I have flat bars on several bikes, and I enjoy them. I ride about 60% >

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-10 Thread Jay Connolly
As a cyclist and a leukemia patient, I really appreciate learning about Freddie. Thanks for the link. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-10 Thread Broccoli Cog
For those interested to learn more about Freddie Hoffman here is a link you can read here On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 2:10:40 AM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > > Freddie Hoffman has ridden more than 1.5 million miles with an > upright-swept back

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-10 Thread Grant @ Rivendell
Freddie Hoffman has ridden more than 1.5 million miles with an upright-swept back handlebar. In the '80s he averated 50,000 miles per year. We've covered him in the RR, he's been written up here and there...it can be done. On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 9:16:50 AM UTC-7, Peter Turskovitch wrote: >

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-09 Thread lconley
I rode the entire Cross-Florida (175 miles in two days) last year with Bullmoose bars with Brooks grips (large) on my Bombadil (50 x 650b Big Bens). Then I went out and bought some Ergon grips and switched the B-17 for a B-67. Extra surface area reduces the pressure - I am overweight. On

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-09 Thread Jon BALER
I use Velo orange crazy bars on my touring bike, and have done many 70+ mile days. My commuter has choco bars, and I have done up to 60 miles in a day. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-08 Thread Broccoli Cog
This is a great thread and so timely for as well. I have only been riding the Albatross bars for a couple of weeks. I still don't feel completely comfortable. I agree that stem length, bar height angle of the bar and saddle position are all a big factor. Still experimenting with my set up. --

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-08 Thread 'Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch
I've toured comfortably on my old

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-06 Thread ant ritchey
i've got probably 10-12 100+ mile days on the trusty albatross under the belt...and w/ touring accoutrements. depends on so many things, though! i ride many bars, always. but at current they're my forever bar, for what little it may be worth. -a On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 9:16:50 AM UTC-7,

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-03 Thread Bob K.
I did a few 50+ mile rides with Albatross bars on my Sam Hillborne. Ultimately, I changed them out for Albastache because the sweep of the Albatross made me feel cramped. I like the Albastache setup and pull a trailer with my 2.5 year old using that bike all the time. Works like a charm. Worked

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-03 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks, Ron, Panog, et al! That makes sense and it also makes sense as another reason why I so love the Albastache/new Moustache. It's, for me, the best of both worlds. Ron, yes -- not needing/and even better not liking cushion for bars or gloves is a sign of proper bars and use of core.

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-03 Thread reynoldslugs
I have flat bars on several bikes, and I enjoy them. I ride about 60% time with drops, about 40% on flat/"alternative" bars. My favorites *by far* are One-One Mary's. The perfect fit for me is to install the upside down (See pics). Many, many long rides (75k and more), mostly with plenty of

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-03 Thread Eric Douglas
Kent Peterson used to ride very long distances with a flat bar fixed / single speed. On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 2:28:56 PM UTC-4, Marc Irwin wrote: > > I use the Bosco Bars from Rivendell on my touring bike and bike of choice > for 100k charity rides. They not only provide a huge range of

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-03 Thread Marc Irwin
I use the Bosco Bars from Rivendell on my touring bike and bike of choice for 100k charity rides. They not only provide a huge range of hand positions but an even greater range of body postures. I've never experienced any pain or numbness in my hands since I started using them. Marc On

Re: [RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-03 Thread Patrick Moore
Not only wind resistance, but loss of power, since you need a certain minimum angle between hips and torso to bring all possible muscles into play. But these are theoretical matters; you can certainly get aero and bent forward with bars other than drop bars. On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 9:26 AM, panog

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-03 Thread panog
@Deacon Patrick Wind resistance. Wind resistance of an erect upper body, specially against a head-on wind, is a significant draw of power if one is to maintain a set speed. If this set speed is in the mid to upper teens, aerodynamic drag is a significant factor to overcome and becomes much

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-03 Thread Ron Mc
pss - if you do it right, you'll find yourself hating padded gloves. I've ridden nothing but giro zero for 5+ years. On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 9:10:46 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > Should also add saddle and knee position for the bike and riding position > are equally important. Usually

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-03 Thread Ron Mc
Should also add saddle and knee position for the bike and riding position are equally important. Usually the more upright the ride, the farther back and lower you need the saddle. On Saturday, June 3, 2017 at 9:06:26 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > I'll throw in my ideas, Deac. > Straight

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-03 Thread Ron Mc
I'll throw in my ideas, Deac. Straight wrists, bent elbows, relaxed neck and shoulders are first priority. When you get to the contact on your hands, aside from not wanting to lean on them, you want to be able to control the bike with a natural relaxed rest, and of course be able to

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-03 Thread Deacon Patrick
Could you help me understand what you are saying here? For this to be true requires an inefficiency to be introduced to the "comfy" handlebar system that doesn't exist in the drop handlebar system. What is that inefficiency? The only inefficiency I experience, and it is relatively negligible

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-02 Thread Ron Mc
Just at the title of the thread, I ride that far on both Moustache bars and Ahearne Map bars. Set up is everything to your hands, wrists, shoulders and neck relaxed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-02 Thread Deacon Patrick
Hello Peter! Welcome! A few questions, as what you mention sounds like handlebars may be the symptom of a set of larger, more central issues. 1. Your reason for riding sounds like it is changing (to be with family). Have you thought about what that means for your style and approach to riding?

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-02 Thread iamkeith
I was going to say almost exactly what Garth said. Having gone through the same circumstances and adjustment to riding realities as you are currently, and having done it for extended periods that allowed me time to experiment (my kids range from 25 to 10 years old), I will say that the thing

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-02 Thread drew
i have ridden 75+km with albatross, albastache and noodle bars. ive also done close to that distance on soma portolas. I think it's important to clarify if your hands are hurting, wrists are hurting, or if youre getting numbness. then you can attempt to change heights, angles or bars to solve

Re: [RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-02 Thread Patrick Moore
+ 1 for Garth's point. Setup is everything and, in my experience, if a bike is properly set up, adding a 30 lb child in 20 lb trailer leaves the bike as comfortable or as uncomfortable as riding it alone. The real question seems to be, what sort of bar are you comfortable with, and how do you set

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-02 Thread Ian A
I should also mention that I have the bars at saddle height and with a fairly long stem for a bit of extra reach. In this configuration they mimic straight bars on the tops, but much more comfortable (for me). On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 12:15:25 PM UTC-6, Ian A wrote: > > Peter, > > I ride

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-02 Thread Philip Kim
i enjoyed nitto RM-3 handlebars. dirt drop stem so they are nice and high and the drops are a tiny bit higher than the saddle. the furthest i've done with them was a camping overnight which was about 120 miles, which according to google is 193km, a bit trickier to set up and needs a period of

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-02 Thread Ian A
Peter, I ride through the winters here in northern Canada on an 80's mountain bike frame with drop bars. The bars are Nitto 177 Noodle in 46cm width. I have interrupter levers and drop levers, with bar end shifters. The point about winter riding is that sometimes I need a lot of leverage at

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-02 Thread Kieran J
I rode about 65km last weekend on my Nitto Albastache-equipped Rambouillet. The ride was a mixture of pavement, hardpack gravel, and singletrack. Lots of climbing and descending. It was perfect. KJ On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 12:16:50 PM UTC-4, Peter Turskovitch wrote: > > Hi everybody, > >

[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

2017-06-02 Thread Garth
It's not just a given bar, but also how your bike is setup with that given bar. I have ridden my Bomba near 3 hours and it's great, but it also has everything to do with how the bike frame fits me and how it is setup with that bar. It all starts with your weight distribution in the saddle