Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-19 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 11:46 -0700, JLa wrote: I read from Paul's web site that the Thumbies have 26mm clamp size and fit standard stem-clamp sleeves. But in the picture at rivbike.com they are mounted on Nitto bars that should be 24mm diameter:

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-19 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 11:36 -0700, JLa wrote: By the way, is it possible to convert Dia Compe bar end shifters to down tube shifters? The Dia Compe bar end shifter is in fact the shifter Sun Tour sold as the Sprint downtube lever mounted on Shimano pattern bar end shifter pods. However, if

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd ³Silver Shifters²

2010-08-18 Thread CycloFiend
on 8/18/10 8:17 AM, JLa at juhani.lait...@gmail.com wrote: Is there anyone else using the ³Silver Shifters² with Shimano 9 speed 11-34. I¹m wondering if it¹s really so that they don¹t work together well - or is it just about the technique? The main challanges with 9 speed gearing and friction

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-18 Thread Brian Hanson
I would also recommend going 8 cog on the back. I found 9 too touchy with my Silvers. 8's easy. Brian On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:34 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I use 8-speed on all the Rivendells. Silver shifters with an 8speed SRAM 11-32 cassette. I use a normal rise rear

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 09:48 -0700, Brian Hanson wrote: I would also recommend going 8 cog on the back. I found 9 too touchy with my Silvers. 8's easy. I wasn't successful with 8, but found 7 easy. Actually, I can't see the point of 8. In the first place, the selection of available

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-18 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: I wasn't successful with 8, but found 7 easy. Actually, I can't see the point of 8.  In the first place, the selection of available cassettes in 8 has dwindled to the point there isn't one I'd be interested in, other

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 13:00 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: okay - so this may be my own ignorance and vanity but: - where are you finding 7speed silver cassettes? Depends what you're looking for. I googled around just now and found a bunch of 11-whatevers and a 13-34. When they first

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-18 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 13:00 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: okay - so this may be my own ignorance and vanity but: - where are you finding 7speed silver cassettes? Depends what you're looking for.  I googled around just now

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd ³Silver Shifters²

2010-08-18 Thread Bruce
My Ram came stock with Ultegra 9 speed (12 - 27) and bar ends and as JIm notes, I just have only to use a light touch to get them to shift. After over 6,000 miles it's all still working very well. (chain was replaced but the rest is original.) From:

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 13:17 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: An 11-28 doesn't do much for me vs what I have in 8sp and 9sp. I have an hg50 in black and it pains me to admit it but it looks awful. It's like having 1 black anodized rim and one silver, it just kinda stands out. Doesn't effect the

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-18 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 13:17 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: An 11-28 doesn't do much for me vs what I have in 8sp and 9sp. I have an hg50 in black and it pains me to admit it but it looks awful. It's like having 1 black

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 20:37 -0700, Jim Cloud wrote: When you're shifting while climbing you really need to anticipate a shift and begin changing gears before the grade of the hill becomes steeper. If you're trying to shift with any substantial pressure on the pedals there's too much tension

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 10:30 -0700, William wrote: I think what he meant is the general comment that the more pressure you have on the pedals, the harder it is for your drivetrain to execute a shift. Not necessarily so in the case of Hyperglide, which was designed to be able to shift under

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 12:52 +0200, Juhani Laitela wrote: Did you mean that for the steeper hills, before it gets steep I should figure out a gear that I can maintain the whole hill? So I actually wouldn't shift at all when riding uphill? That is a terrible policy. Shifting on a hill isn't

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread nathan spindel
I like Grant's similar solution to this, found on the Shifting page on rivbike.com: If you're grinding slowly up a hill and suddenly find that you need to shift: 1. Point your bike across the road (traverse) to lessen the slope. 2. Pedal hard for a stroke to get up a small bit of speed. 3. Pedal

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 14:22 -0700, reynoldslugs wrote: I have the same setup on several bikes, and had the same problem. Even after a successful shift, the chain skipped a lot when using the three biggest cogs on the rear cassette. On my bikes that have the 11-34 or 12-34 rear cassette, I

Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”

2010-08-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 16:11 -0700, reynoldslugs wrote: Steve: my post referred to my experience with 9 sp cassettes. I do use Silvers on 7 speed freewheels (13-28) and 9 speed 12-27's, but I've never tried a wide range 7 speed (like your 13-30). I asked because I couldn't make it work