[RBW] Re: Gary Taubes NYT, reviews new pro lo carb study

2012-07-16 Thread Corwin
Hirsch's claim is that the calories were measured as calories burned per unit of lean body mass. This may or may not be documented in the paper. Given that it's not a direct quote - I doubt it. Having read Good Calories Bad Calories, I suspect the calories were measured as calories burned per

Re: [RBW] Re: Gary Taubes NYT, reviews new pro lo carb study

2012-07-13 Thread Aaron Thomas
For a different take on the question of cortisol and C-reactive protein, check out this interview with Dr. Ron Rosedale: http://www.meandmydiabetes.com/2012/06/30/ron-rosedale-comments-on-new-harvard-study Aaron On Thursday, July 12, 2012 4:31:58 PM UTC-7, ttoshi wrote: Nothing Hirsch says

Re: [RBW] Re: Gary Taubes NYT, reviews new pro lo carb study

2012-07-13 Thread Robert Zeidler
Water weight is easy to check if you have one of those scales that does so. For one of the Atkins-style diets-and diet is a bit misleading-one has to consume water etc., at regular intervals during the day. Expect to pee a lot. But that is the primary way fat, and a lot of other bad stuff,

Re: [RBW] Re: Gary Taubes NYT, reviews new pro lo carb study

2012-07-13 Thread Patrick in VT
On Thursday, July 12, 2012 7:48:08 PM UTC-4, Tim McNamara wrote: The best advice about diet I have read is Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants. The only thing I'd add to that is learn to cook. Cooking is essential to taking ownership of what we choose to eat - everyday, I get 5-6

Re: [RBW] Re: Gary Taubes NYT, reviews new pro lo carb study

2012-07-13 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 6:23 AM, Robert Zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Water weight is easy to check if you have one of those scales that does so. For one of the Atkins-style diets-and diet is a bit misleading-one has to consume water etc., at regular intervals during the day. Expect

Re: [RBW] Re: Gary Taubes NYT, reviews new pro lo carb study

2012-07-13 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Amen to this. I am amazed at how well and quickly even I -- being impatient -- can cook. I am very grateful that my daughter has grown up with home-made meals, not pre-packaged schlock. The best cookbook for non-experts is Bittman's How To Cook Everything. The title is just about accurate: you

Re: [RBW] Re: Gary Taubes NYT, reviews new pro lo carb study

2012-07-13 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Thanks Aaron, Great find and thought-provoking interview. Toshi On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:54 AM, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: For a different take on the question of cortisol and C-reactive protein, check out this interview with Dr. Ron Rosedale:

Re: [RBW] Re: Gary Taubes NYT, reviews new pro lo carb study

2012-07-13 Thread Mojo
I am writing this on my phone, so forgive the oddities please. My experience: I bought Gary Taubes' book from Rivendell last summer. I came to the book after my cholesterol rose over the last few years my doctor wanted me to start statins. I am 6ft weighed 192 lbs. After reading much beyond

[RBW] Re: Gary Taubes NYT, reviews new pro lo carb study

2012-07-12 Thread Solomander
OTOH.. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/10/health/nutrition/q-and-a-are-high-protein-low-carb-diets-effective.html?smid=FB-nytimesWT.mc_id=HL-E-FB-SM-LIN-IDM-071212-NYT-NAWT.mc_ev=click Jules Hirsch is a smart guy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

[RBW] Re: Gary Taubes NYT, reviews new pro lo carb study

2012-07-12 Thread Tony Lockhart
This was an interesting article and I imagine that it'll have the Taubes fans up in arms. This guy speaks very authoritatively when it comes to efficient ways of losing weight. I kind of find this frustrating because the article alludes to his credibility given that he's been studying obesity

Re: [RBW] Re: Gary Taubes NYT, reviews new pro lo carb study

2012-07-12 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Nothing Hirsch says discredits the paper cited. The paper claims that the resting energy expenditure of the subjects with low carb diets was higher than the high carb diet expenditure. Therefore, the low carb diet contingent burns more energy at rest than the high carb diet contingent. I looked

Re: [RBW] Re: Gary Taubes NYT, reviews new pro lo carb study

2012-07-12 Thread Bill Gibson
It is possible that individuals vary in their response to diet and exercise. Why not? Calorie theory, set-point theory, and fat-storage theory provide frameworks for productive research. Taubes' insistence on more scientific research separates him from diet gurus that challenge conventional

Re: [RBW] Re: Gary Taubes NYT, reviews new pro lo carb study

2012-07-12 Thread Tim McNamara
On Jul 12, 2012, at 6:18 PM, Tony Lockhart alockhart...@gmail.com wrote: This was an interesting article and I imagine that it'll have the Taubes fans up in arms. This guy speaks very authoritatively when it comes to efficient ways of losing weight. I kind of find this frustrating because

Re: [RBW] Re: Gary Taubes NYT, reviews new pro lo carb study

2012-07-12 Thread PATRICK MOORE
That makes sense to me, too. My mother, a Filipina (and 89) started watching her diet about 20 years ago after a mild heart attack and mild, type 2 diabetes: lean protein, mostly chicken breast, a lot of vegetables and as much white rice as her incipient diabetes allows. She quickly lost weight

[RBW] Re: Gary Taubes NYT, reviews new pro lo carb study

2012-07-12 Thread rob markwardt
...and so we need 2054 books to tell us how...found on the internet...it must be true. http://yourlocalsecurity.com/in-good-measure/2504-diet-books On Jul 12, 7:30 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, July 12, 2012 4:48:08 PM UTC-7, Tim McNamara wrote: The best advice about diet I