Crazy isn't it? Seems this is what everyone wants but nobody offers
anymore.
I use the Dura-Ace GS 7700 but the 7800 is also silver. Good luck finding a
good one.
http://www.disraeligears.co.uk/Site/Shimano_Dura-Ace_derailleur_(7700_GS).html
On Saturday, June 2, 2012 10:21:45 PM UTC-4, Scot
http://www.amazon.com/Shimano-RD-7800-Derallieur-10-Speed-Medium/dp/B001VDSVNI/ref=sr_1_14?s=cyclingie=UTF8qid=1338819621sr=1-14
On Saturday, June 2, 2012 10:21:45 PM UTC-4, Scot Brooks wrote:
As my new bicycle is taking shape, I'm painfully aware all-over-again that
there are very few rear
I like the Dura-Ace suggestions quite a lot, but don't Shimano's GS derailers
run out of wrapping capacity well before 36t? I just assumed that SGS (or
equivalent) was the only way. If I'm not careful, I'll end up with a beautiful
Dura-Ace RD and a new cassette just to use it :)
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Those Shimano road models all say max cog = 28. In my experience you can
push it a little, but trying to get a Shimano road rear der to take a 36T
cog is bound to fail. Pushing it 2 teeth is no biggie. 4 teeth is usually
a little noisy but it'll work if you have to do it. 8 teeth beyond the
What you want is either rare or non-existent. I've been though this with
customers before, and my opinion is that it's much better if you can get
the one that works and ride it and forget about the color. Speaking for
myself, I've never judged a man's (or woman's) worth by the color of his
(or
Some may recall that in the Riv Readers of yore, Grant frequently (as I
recall) talked about the Japanese concept of wabi-sabi, which, quoting from
Wikipedia is the 'beauty that is imperfect, impermanent, and incomplete'.
Sometimes it's good to have the bad stitch in a masterfully hand-woven
- Hiawatha
Cyclery
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Subject: [RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver
What you want is either rare or non-existent. I've been though this with
customers before, and my opinion is that it's much better if you can
On Jun 3, 5:07 am, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote:
Really would be nice if Paul or White jumped in with a boutique option. I
imagine the design and tooling investment would demand either an impossible
price or volume though.
On the contrary, both have built rear derailiers (and
Thanks for the link Applejack, I havent seen that site for years
http://www.disraeligears.co.uk/Site/Shimano_Dura-Ace_derailleur_(7700_GS).html
Phil B
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I've been using a Suntour Cyclone short cage derailleur with a Shimano XTR
12-28 8-speed cassette and friction down tube shifters for the past few
months with no problems. A Cyclone GT long-cage derailleur can handle big
cogs -- 34 according to official specs, maybe 36 in real life?
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Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:33:36 -0700
From: thill@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver
What you want is either rare or non-existent. I've been though this with
customers before, and my opinion is that it's much better if you
Buy one of these M751 ones. NOS for $65 is a great deal. Stock up on them
even.
On Saturday, June 2, 2012 7:35:36 PM UTC-7, Leslie wrote:
I prefer the older XT long-cage SGS derailleurs, have the same model on
both the Ram and the Bomba... The Ram is w/ a 11-32 9sp, the Bomba is w/ a
Will M751 rders handle the 36t big cog? We've noticed that recent Shimano MTB
units can handle the big cogs... Older models, not so much.
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I'm running the M751 med-cage GS right now on my Rawland with a 12-36
cassette. It has a lot to do with the geometry of the rear drop out as
well. If the dropout holds the rear derailer really close to the axle of
the rear hub, then the published max is pretty accurate. If the drop out
Ah yes. I should had thought about that. I've spent my 20+ years on a
bike blissfully free of the horrors of index shifting.
I met Mr. White with a nice woman I assume is his wife at the Indiana
NAHBS. A bike I am putting together this fall will have a White crank,
bottom bracket and
Here 'ya go . I've used on of these for a few years . It's a modern
Silver RD. They still have them in stock . . .lol.
http://www.jensonusa.com/!xFzOUiKZz4ZvnT31UVLKxg!/Shimano-LX-M581-Rear-Derailleur
Frankly .. the older Shimanos I prefer , like from the 80/90's. They've
lightened the
I imagine this works well, but boy does it look chintzy compared to my '90s
Ultegra.
On Monday, June 4, 2012 7:45:40 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
Here 'ya go . I've used on of these for a few years . It's a modern
Silver RD. They still have them in stock . . .lol.
Gotta go back... further... mid-80s... First gen Shimano m700 Deore
(Deerhead). These are wonderful friction derailleurs that will shift
like butter and last forever. Just look at this one... it's over 25
years old.
http://tinyurl.com/79vo4md
Or (from the same era), one of these Suntour
On Saturday, June 2, 2012 8:24:11 PM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote:
Joe, that Campy is gorgeous but only wraps up 29t per their specs. I know
there's a little cushion there, but I might be pushing it with 36t.
What about the Nashbar/Microshift 10 spd rear der:
Jim,
Undoubtedly there's some wisdom in your comment. Maybe the derailer big
wigs will move their design back to the days of yore at some point, but
there's no sense in making my bicycle wait.
Phil B.,
Those Paul RDs and White RDs are awesome. I never knew such a thing
existed, especially the
another way to get the low gearing you desire is to get a 94bcd crankset
and run a 20T small chain ring. Then a 34 cog will get you a similar low
gear.
The White Industries crank will get you there and there are
other available used MTB cranksets as well.
~mike
On Saturday, June 2, 2012
Well yeah ..lol... pretty much any decent quality RD from that era is
better for friction than the modern ones . I even used a odd looking Sport
LX m452 on my Stumpjumper for years after the original ST crapped out. I
bought in an emergency at a shop and it still works fine. I bought a
correction... TA and Middleburn offer 94/58 cranksets not White Ind.
~mike
On Monday, June 4, 2012 8:27:46 PM UTC-7, Michael_S wrote:
another way to get the low gearing you desire is to get a 94bcd crankset
and run a 20T small chain ring. Then a 34 cog will get you a similar low
gear.
I have the same preference. Wound up haunting the eBay until a Campy Euclid
(long cage ATB Ders Campy made in the '90s) came up for sale. NOS Ultegras
come up every now and then as well.
Really would be nice if Paul or White jumped in with a boutique option. I
imagine the design and tooling
I thought of that after I hit send. Oops! I found a nice NOS Sachs Quarz
MTB mech on Ebay a while back. You should be able to find something in
similar condition if you hunt long enough. If you're shifting friction with
7-speed-or-less, there's some nice Suntour derailers around which will
Joe, that Campy is gorgeous but only wraps up 29t per their specs. I know
there's a little cushion there, but I might be pushing it with 36t.
On Saturday, June 2, 2012 7:35:50 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
Campy makes a silver long-cage.
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