I'm amazed at what arcana comes up from a request for obscure information.
I cannot be 100% certain without disassembling the hub in question, but
various inputs from several lists indicate that this "AR-8" hub is not an
ultra-close ratio racing 3 speed hub from 1938 ("AR-8") inexplicably
attached to a drum brake but a A*B*-8, an AW (133/100/75) wide ratio hub
very expectedly attached to a drum brake made in 1938 for very reasonable
use on an upright roadsters. Someone thought that the stamping read
"AB-*3"* but
I see an 8 when I look closely.

I Googled some more and found a couple of old FS ads for old roadsters with
AB-8 hubs as well as these SA links for the AB and the AB3, which both are
also on Sheldon's SA IGH crib chart:

AB: 1930s wide ratio with drum brake:
http://www.sturmey-archerheritage.com/index.php?page=history-detail&id=54

*And* the AB3: a modern (at least per Sheldon in 2010) iteration:
https://web.archive.org/web/20121029092003/http://www.sturmey-archer.com/products/hubs/cid/3/id/18/specs/1

But I think that the stamping reads "8" and not "3" -- again, AB hub, wide
ratio, plus drum brake, 1938.

So, over and out.

On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 3:03 PM Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Someone wants to trade for one of my AMs and I want to know what ratios it
> has.
>
> I realize that this is a long shot (and yes, I first asked on the IGH
> list) but does anyone know what the ratios are?
>
> >>> Is this in fact an ultra-close ratio AR hub* (made for time trialers)
> mated for some reason to a drum brake? Perhaps for tandem time trialers? <<<
>
> I'd love to have an AR with or without drum, but I don't want to end up
> with another AW-type epicyclic.
>
>
> * Direct, 107.24% overdrive, 93.24% underdrive; say 75/70/66 gi.
>
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