[RBW] Re: Measuring sit bones: hilarity ensues

2015-07-26 Thread John Phillips
The sitting on a piece of paper on foam method gave me 13cm, so I thought a 
B17 would work.

On the bike, I couldn't really tell which saddle felt right until I 
switched to a set of Barlow Pass tires. Marathons transmitted so much road 
noise, I couldn't tell the difference between crappy asphalt  and the 
wrong saddle.

I bought and tried several saddles until I figured this out.

Off the bike, what worked for me was placing a saddle on a foam pad on a 
chair and carefully lowering my butt till I could feel with my fingers just 
where my sit bones were.

Going through my collection of saddles showed me that I fit on a B67, and I 
just fit on a Berthoud Mente. The B17 was too narrow, even if I leaned 
forward as if I was riding in the drops.

John

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[RBW] Re: Measuring sit bones: hilarity ensues

2015-07-13 Thread Ron Mc
yes, you gotta start somewhere. After 2 years on a Brooks B17S Imperial, my 
daughter has developed a comfort issue.  From examining the saddle, it 
looks like she's sitting right on the back rail.  So last night I sent 
Debra an e-mail looking for a demo.  While I had the saddle for a sit-bone 
measurement, I asked my daughter to sit on a memory-foam pillow, and got a 
very good demonstration and measurement from that.  Though my daughter 
didn't find the event hilarious - she didn't like the whole concept.  

On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 11:12:37 PM UTC-5, Daniel D. wrote:

 Like Will says it gives you a starting point at least.  Rather than just 
 throwing a dart totally in the dark.




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[RBW] Re: Measuring sit bones: hilarity ensues

2015-07-12 Thread William deRosset
Dear Liesl,

The specialized ass-ometer (seriously) as described by others gives the 
most repeatable results. You might even like their saddles (most stores 
have a loaner program--take them up on it if interested).

I am comfortable (depending on context) on saddles ranging from 135mm to 
170mm wide (if I sat genuinely upright on a cruiser, I bet a wider saddle 
would be okay, too), and sit right at the border between Specialized 
narrow and meduium widths. I do tend to trend toward saddles in the 
140-145mm width range in plastic saddles, and around 160mm in suspended 
leather saddles, all with  moderate pitch (fore-aft variation in elevation) 
and only slight to moderate roll (side to side curvature). 

Funny enough, I just slapped a Selle San Marco bontrager titanio saddle 
on my Boulder Road Sport bike and took it out, untested, for a 6 1/2 hour 
ride this afternoon. It was a climbing-intensive ride on an undergeared 
bike (so plenty of time out of the saddle in the 42X23), but it did fine. 
No numbness or squeaking soft parts. Width (checking with the calipers...): 
116 mm! It is basically a 145mm saddle with the sides cut down for Keith's 
vision of mountain bike use (back in 1992), but proof that you never know 
what'll work well enough

The Assometer, it isn't a bad starting place, but I wouldn't expect bone 
width to correspond too exactly to your preferred saddle. The proof of the 
saddle is in the seating.

Best,

Will
William M. deRosset
Fort Collins, CO

On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 10:53:24 AM UTC-6, Liesl wrote:

 Okay, Rivit Beth writes in their website: There are plenty of ways to 
 measure your sit bones, so I won’t go into them all here. Simply, you can 
 do it yourself or have help from a friend, or spend a lot of money having 
 someone do it for you. If you have a willing partner, use a measuring tape, 
 assume the position and have at it! 

 I am, for everyone's benefit, not gonna go into too much detail here 
 but...(pun unavoidable) bending over, finding/palpating which part of the 
 pelvis is actually what you sit on, discovering a ruler is not up to the 
 task, and switching to calipers 

 In the end (again, pun unavoidable) we got several rounds of wildly 
 inconsistent data and I have no idea what the distance between my sits 
 bones is  but, I must say, the laughter was good for our souls. 

 We might try the sit-on-a-piece-paper-on-some-foam technique. 

 I hesitate to ask, but any advice or wisdom from this august group? 

 Riv Chica Ever the High Road Warrior

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Re: [RBW] Re: Measuring sit bones: hilarity ensues

2015-07-12 Thread Aaron Young
Daniel D.,

Yes, that is maybe the simplest way to measure your sit bones (ischial
tuberosities, to be technical).  I've measured mine before.  I used
cardboard like Dave mentioned.  I found some of the thicker cardboard, but
i had to really work to make obvious depressions.  Maybe I have a little
too much padding covering my tuberosities??? :)

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Dave davele...@gmail.com wrote:

 cardboard works too.  Put cardboard on a bench, sit on bench while putting
 your feet up on some kind of elevated surface and leaning slightly forward


 On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 12:11:48 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:

 Try your LBS. some of them have a thermopedic memory foam  type bench you
 can sit on that leaves sit bone indents in the material for you to measure.

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[RBW] Re: Measuring sit bones: hilarity ensues

2015-07-12 Thread Garth

The obvious question is this  What does measuring one's sit bones 
matter , as saddle fit/feel is strictly personal and isn't determined by 
any arbitrary method .  There are so many variables  , from anatomical 
differences in bone shape/width/structure to differences in personal 
pressure feel and tolerance and even pedal style and bike fit come into 
play .  

  My opinion .  . . .  fuhggetaboutit !  !  

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[RBW] Re: Measuring sit bones: hilarity ensues

2015-07-12 Thread Lungimsam
Try your LBS. some of them have a thermopedic memory foam  type bench you can 
sit on that leaves sit bone indents in the material for you to measure.

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[RBW] Re: Measuring sit bones: hilarity ensues

2015-07-12 Thread Daniel D.
Would measuring the dimples I've put in my Brooks pro work?

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[RBW] Re: Measuring sit bones: hilarity ensues

2015-07-12 Thread Dave
cardboard works too.  Put cardboard on a bench, sit on bench while putting 
your feet up on some kind of elevated surface and leaning slightly forward

On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 12:11:48 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:

 Try your LBS. some of them have a thermopedic memory foam  type bench you 
 can sit on that leaves sit bone indents in the material for you to measure.

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[RBW] Re: Measuring sit bones: hilarity ensues

2015-07-12 Thread Daniel D.
Like Will says it gives you a starting point at least.  Rather than just 
throwing a dart totally in the dark.

On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 2:01:50 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote:


 The obvious question is this  What does measuring one's sit 
 bones matter , as saddle fit/feel is strictly personal and isn't 
 determined by any arbitrary method .  There are so many variables  , from 
 anatomical differences in bone shape/width/structure to differences in 
 personal pressure feel and tolerance and even pedal style and bike fit come 
 into play .  

   My opinion .  . . .  fuhggetaboutit !  !  


 

On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 8:09:15 PM UTC-7, William deRosset wrote:


 The Assometer, it isn't a bad starting place, but I wouldn't expect bone 
 width to correspond too exactly to your preferred saddle. The proof of the 
 saddle is in the seating.

 Best,

 Will


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[RBW] Re: Measuring sit bones: hilarity ensues

2015-07-12 Thread Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado
I first sat on a pile of paper towels and took a measurement.It looked 
close to 130.
I then found out that Specialized dealers had a tool to measure sit bones.
I went there and they politely measured me, no charge.I looked at some of 
their saddles but didn't buy one.
The tool measured 130...it took about 5 minutes for them to set up and 
measure.




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[RBW] Re: Measuring sit bones: hilarity ensues

2015-07-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
My sit bone measurement was wide enough that it made Debbie w/ Rivet 
Saddles laugh with concern, though it was in the range of their widest 
saddle. I ended up preferring the Diablo, their narrowest saddle. Which is 
to say I am baffled how to do this correctly other than to trying a saddle 
out. That's one of the beautiful things about Rivet's 1 year guarantee. If 
the right saddle is one of their saddles, you will end up with it. If not, 
then you're only out shipping.

With abandon,
Patrick

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