[RBW] Re: My new Roadeo

2015-10-05 Thread Nick Worthington
Building up my Roadeo has been delayed while I heal-up from an injury, but, for what it's worth, I've got Barlow Pass tires mounted on it with no problem. Seems like room to spare left over, too. Nick W. On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 8:21:08 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote: > > I know that I am

[RBW] Re: My new Roadeo

2015-10-04 Thread Kelly
My wifes 61cm Roadeo runs sks fenders and jack browns just fine. fyi Kelly On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 10:21:08 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote: > > I know that I am preaching to the Choir. I picked up my new Riv Roadeo > frame set the end of August. I installed the Shimano 6800 11sp group set

Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

2015-09-23 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Hi Don, I converted my Ram to 650b. It easily takes 42 mm tires with fenders. The Roadeo has a lower BB than the Ram, so I would not convert that. Toshi On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Don Compton wrote: > Tim, > Many Riv's built for 700c wheels have fairly low bottom

Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

2015-09-23 Thread Tim Gavin
Don- The BB is crazy low now. My Riv Road has 80 mm of BB drop, and my conversion from 700 x 25 to 650 x 38 dropped it another 6 mm. I use 170 mm cranks and I still need to be careful not to pedal in turns, and to keep my pedals level when off-roading. However, the very low BB gives the bike

Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

2015-09-23 Thread Don Compton
Bill, May of 1974 at the NCAA tournament, I was fortunate to be partnered with Peter Jacobsen in the North-South matches the day before the tournament began. It was best ball ( 4 ball ) and we kicked the other team's ass.I didn't help much. On Monday, September 21, 2015 at 12:34:26 PM UTC-7,

Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

2015-09-22 Thread Don Compton
Tim, Many Riv's built for 700c wheels have fairly low bottom brackets. How does that work with going to 650 rims? On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 7:50:19 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote: > > I have a Riv Road Standard, kind of a pre-Ram, pre-Roadeo, and I've > modified it more towards touring than

Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

2015-09-22 Thread Patrick Moore
Fun is by definition subjective! For me, a Roadeo with 30 mm tires would be ideal -- I would have no use at all for anything wider, or even for fenders, on this sort of bike, which in my stable would fill the "gofast derailleur" niche. Past racing bikes: At least some models from the early 70s

Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

2015-09-22 Thread RJM
The Roadeo won't take 38's, certainly not with fenders. I think 35s are the tops. I was riding 32s for a while but now am running 25s, but I'm switching back to 32s and fenders for the winter. The bike rides great with those tire widths on 22 wide aluminium rims (I have been using Rolf Vigor

Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

2015-09-22 Thread Kieran J
Agreed. I do wonder if my Ram has a future as a touring bike. The fork would need more attachment points - or maybe a different fork. It's quite overbuilt in its present config as a stripped-down, go-fast type machine - especially for a lanky dude like me. I wouldn't mind replacing it with a

Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

2015-09-22 Thread Tim Gavin
I have a Riv Road Standard, kind of a pre-Ram, pre-Roadeo, and I've modified it more towards touring than fast road riding. Mine cleared a 700 x 28 with no fenders, which I found limiting. I prefer riding with fenders and wider tires for varied surfaces (I even put fenders on my new carbon cross

Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

2015-09-22 Thread Will
Of course my impression is subjective. Completely so. I was thinking about purchasing a Serotta a few years back. Even went and had a bike fitting. The Serotta frames were beautiful. I loved them. When I asked if I could have one built to take fenders, the shop guy looked like he had pooh on

Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

2015-09-21 Thread ted
Will, I also find the Rodeo tempting. However if you want 38mm and larger tires with fenders it's not going to have large enough clearances for you. Even an AHH may be too tight for you, I find ~40mm (Soma GR) with fenders to be as far as I can go on mine. When I want to ride something "racy"

Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

2015-09-21 Thread 'pb' via RBW Owners Bunch
On Monday, September 21, 2015 at 7:08:40 PM UTC-7, Will wrote: > > This is so true. I test rode a 7 Ti with all the high end stuff ... It > was way less fun than my Atlantis with the old school drive train. > H. Could you define "fun"? Seriously. I'd posit that your conclusion is

Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

2015-09-21 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I use Grand Bois Cypress 700x30 tires on mine--the skinniest tires of any bike I own. The comments I get on some rides are, "Wow, that dude is riding on like cyclocross tires or something." My motto is as the hill gets steeper go to a lower gear, so I have a "fancy" 10-spd compatible Sugino

Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

2015-09-21 Thread Patrick Moore
You've convinced me! Now I just need the $$$ ... On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 9:12 PM, Don Compton wrote: > Patrick, > When I was young and stupid, high performance cars were my bad habit. I > was a golfer ( all Pac 8 1974 ) and loved cars. Well, I had suffered from > back

Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

2015-09-21 Thread Will
This is so true. I test rode a 7 Ti with all the high end stuff (fancy brifters, and so on), because I was looking to buy my Last Bike. It was way less fun than my Atlantis with the old school drive train. I'd love to ride a Roadeo. I want 36 spoke wheels. I want fenders. I want 38mm tires

Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

2015-09-21 Thread Don Compton
Will, I compromise a little on the Riv theme. On my Roadeo, I have a Shimano Ultegra 11sp setup with a compact crankset. With my 12-29 Campy cassette, I have finally found the combo that allows me to ride on any rides ( any ride that I want to ride ). Tires, however, I stick with the Riv theme.

Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

2015-09-21 Thread Don Compton
Toshi, You and I have just illustrated the virtue of Grant's designs. The Roadeo can work for many. On Monday, September 21, 2015 at 8:52:21 PM UTC-7, ttoshi wrote: > > I use Grand Bois Cypress 700x30 tires on mine--the skinniest tires of any > bike I own. The comments I get on some rides

Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

2015-09-21 Thread Bill Lindsay
Holy CRAP! Don Compton was all-conference in a year where both Peter Jacobsen (Oregon) and Craig Stadler (USC) competed in the conference. That's no freaking joke. Hat's off (and Go Bears!) Bill class-of-1991-and-1999-and-2001 Lindsay On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 8:12:49 PM UTC-7, Don

Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

2015-09-20 Thread Don Compton
Patrick, When I was young and stupid, high performance cars were my bad habit. I was a golfer ( all Pac 8 1974 ) and loved cars. Well, I had suffered from back problems , even in college. At the ripe old age of 33, I replace jogging with cycling. I eventually replaced golf with road cycling. I

[RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

2015-09-16 Thread Michael Hechmer
Yes, these road bikes are a joy in the hills. Glad to read of your joy. And for the record, I too like my bars high - 2 cm below the saddle. That allows me to get a little lower going downhill, and makes it easier to stand and rock the bike when I want to. Michael On Tuesday, September

[RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

2015-09-16 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
When I first got into bicycling as an adult back in 1995, I bought a book and the author recommended setting the handleabars "about an inch or two below the saddle, for comfort". Even then, I had the LBS set up my first bike with handlebars well above the saddle and I was young, in good shape

Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

2015-09-16 Thread Patrick Moore
If I had much more money than I do, the one Rivendell I'd buy in a snap would be a Roadeo. (Tho' I'd love a Hunq and an Atlantis too. And a Legolas. But the Roadeo would top the list.) Thanks for the descriptions of handling. On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 10:18 AM, RJM wrote:

[RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

2015-09-16 Thread RJM
Yeah, these Roadeos make great road bikes. I have the saddle on mine about even with the stem, which I find comfortable and I can still use the drops on my Mark's bar fine. I'm generally passing people while decending and this bike gives me total confidence while doing so, even when the road

[RBW] Re: my new Roadeo

2015-08-13 Thread Paul G
Don, are you riding Extra Leger or standard casing Grand Bois Cerfs? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: my new Roadeo

2015-08-13 Thread Minh
Don, you're killing me with this praise of the GB Cerfs, i have a pair in the box waiting to be mounted! though why only 28mm? if 28mm is good 32 is better? In my case i max out at 28, so no other option, i really need to get these mounted while the weather is nice. On Wednesday, August

[RBW] Re: my new Roadeo

2015-08-13 Thread Paul G
I'll kindly let Don speak for himself. The following opinions are based on a 160lb body weight and a 61cm Roadeo, currently with non-racy components and no fenders, that weighs about 24lbs. I've tried GB 28mm and GB 32mm Extra Leger (closer to 30 in reality) on 23mm rims on my Roadeo and

[RBW] Re: my new Roadeo

2015-08-13 Thread Don Compton
I weigh about 178 lbs and my Roadeo is a 59cm. I tried the new 32cm Compass ( not extra light) and I just prefer 28's.I don't ride many gravel roads, but many rough, paved roads. For me, the 28's seem to be a great compromise between a nice ride and lively handling. On Sunday, August 2, 2015

[RBW] Re: my new Roadeo

2015-08-12 Thread Don Compton
After about 600 miles and a few hills, and using the 700x28 Grand Bois Cerfs, this bike is just phenomenal. The bike weighs about 20lbs without water and my tool pack. The weight is insignificant on uphills and the handling on downhills is , well, Rivendellishly awesome. On Sunday, August 2,

[RBW] Re: my new Roadeo

2015-08-06 Thread RJM
Congrats on it. The Roadeo is a really great road frame...I love mine. On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 10:19:18 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote: My new Roadeo, as expected, has been a pleasure to ride. I am using 700x28 Grand Bois tires with 23mm wide rims pumped up 60psi fr, 70psi r. It's like

[RBW] Re: my new Roadeo

2015-08-05 Thread Paul G
I'm sure all would agree that pictures are mandatory! ;-) 28mm Grand Bois tires on the Roadeo are my favorites for sporty handling during fast, twisty descents. 23mm rims. I've also tried Jack Brown Greens. They give a more sure-footed stable feel for city commuting with a saddle bag but are

[RBW] Re: my new Roadeo

2015-08-05 Thread Don Compton
On another note, after many $$ spent, I have finally found a saddle that I can live with, a Specialized Phenom mountain bike saddle. Pure Heaven. I loved the old B-17's for years, but the hump finally got me. On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 8:19:18 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote: My new Roadeo, as

[RBW] Re: my new Roadeo

2015-08-05 Thread Don Compton
Here you go On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 8:19:18 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote: My new Roadeo, as expected, has been a pleasure to ride. I am using 700x28 Grand Bois tires with 23mm wide rims pumped up 60psi fr, 70psi r. It's like I search for bumpy roads. On another subject, I equipped the

Re: [RBW] Re: my new Roadeo

2015-08-05 Thread Patrick Moore
Lovely. On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Don Compton dpco...@gmail.com wrote: Here you go On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 8:19:18 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote: My new Roadeo, as expected, has been a pleasure to ride. I am using 700x28 Grand Bois tires with 23mm wide rims pumped up 60psi fr,

[RBW] Re: my new Roadeo

2015-08-03 Thread Wayne Naha
Sounds great! Congratulations. On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 11:19:18 PM UTC-4, Don Compton wrote: My new Roadeo, as expected, has been a pleasure to ride. I am using 700x28 Grand Bois tires with 23mm wide rims pumped up 60psi fr, 70psi r. It's like I search for bumpy roads. On another

[RBW] Re: my new Roadeo RCP

2010-06-26 Thread kps
thanks, Nathan! it IS a blast to ride...quick AND comfortable. i'm loving it. -k On Jun 25, 2:37 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: Kim, what a beautiful bike! Enjoy it. Looks like a blast to ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW

[RBW] Re: my new Roadeo RCP

2010-06-25 Thread JoelMatthews
Lovely; and exactly my size. I'd swap out the Brooks for a Flite, old style, and the Noodles for 44 cm 185s (and lower them considerably) on an 8 cm Pearl; and use Looks of some sort. Probably a 32/46 or so and a 14-15-16-17-18-19-21-24 8 speed with the 46 set up centered on the cassette; or

Re: [RBW] Re: my new Roadeo RCP

2010-06-25 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:33 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Lovely; and exactly my size. I'd swap out the Brooks for a Flite, old style, and the Noodles for 44 cm 185s (and lower them considerably) on an 8 cm Pearl; and use Looks of some sort. Probably a 32/46 or so and a

[RBW] Re: my new Roadeo RCP

2010-06-25 Thread JoelMatthews
Huh? Why? Humor has never been my forte. Meant to be a light hearted reference to the many things you would do different from the OP's build. On Jun 25, 2:39 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:33 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Lovely; and

[RBW] Re: my new Roadeo RCP

2010-06-25 Thread JoelMatthews
KPS: Now that I am home and seeing this on my Mac, I really like the minimalist clear coat with black tape contrast. Very purposeful. Be very interested in hearing ride comparison with your Serotta. On Jun 25, 10:58 am, kps kshe...@gmail.com wrote: finally, my Roadeo has been built up and i'm