[RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Test Ride
It is a very cool looking bike I don't think that I've seen a Rivendell that I wouldn't want in my Guhrage. I guess I'm wondering how this Bike is different. I know that Riv's all have a feel, and a look to them (like a Reid Miles designed Blue Note album Cover), but it looks to me to be very similar to all the others. Perhaps this is an oversimplification and based on my ignorance of the bike's geometry, tubing, and all the other things that give a bike its characteristics. This is not a jab at the bike or its design. I'm just curious how this bike sits in a unique stall in Rivendell's stable. It's been a secret, so perhaps thats why I don't know. But I'd love to know Kampai! On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 1:11:13 PM UTC+9, grant wrote: Four are still in paint. Three are painted here, one has been assembled and needs to be boxed and shipped, and not everybody's on the Forum. The bike...to me, is astounding. I just love how it feels, everything it does. It's not a sportsy bike or the kind of bike that---well, at some point we'll have a production model (meaning I think it is a good design). The specials have a Riv badge and a Protovelo decal---although Thomas's went out before decaling, so I sent him a decal and instructions. All of the specials get a single top-mounted decal on the diagatube. On Monday, September 3, 2012 6:47:16 PM UTC-7, Peter Pesce wrote: So let me get this straight. There were 10 of these made IIRC and only one person has fessed up to receiving theirs, and hardly any pictures? Something's fishy. ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/FDaAHUH136oJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Test Ride
There was some discussion of this when the first pictures of the frame came out last fall, but basically the Mystery Bike/Roscoe Bubbe is a frame designed specifically around a super-upright seating position with swept-back bars like the Boscoe, Albatross, etc. The rest of the Riv lineup is made to work with a variety of bars--both drops and uprights, while this is one specifically for uprights. So: much longer top tubes than other models, and much longer chainstays to provide a more balanced weight distribution. I think the bottom bracket is lower as well. Normal front derailleurs won't work, so you shift the front by hand (or with a stick). On Wednesday, September 5, 2012 7:31:14 PM UTC-7, thebvo wrote: It is a very cool looking bike I don't think that I've seen a Rivendell that I wouldn't want in my Guhrage. I guess I'm wondering how this Bike is different. I know that Riv's all have a feel, and a look to them (like a Reid Miles designed Blue Note album Cover), but it looks to me to be very similar to all the others. Perhaps this is an oversimplification and based on my ignorance of the bike's geometry, tubing, and all the other things that give a bike its characteristics. This is not a jab at the bike or its design. I'm just curious how this bike sits in a unique stall in Rivendell's stable. It's been a secret, so perhaps thats why I don't know. But I'd love to know Kampai! On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 1:11:13 PM UTC+9, grant wrote: Four are still in paint. Three are painted here, one has been assembled and needs to be boxed and shipped, and not everybody's on the Forum. The bike...to me, is astounding. I just love how it feels, everything it does. It's not a sportsy bike or the kind of bike that---well, at some point we'll have a production model (meaning I think it is a good design). The specials have a Riv badge and a Protovelo decal---although Thomas's went out before decaling, so I sent him a decal and instructions. All of the specials get a single top-mounted decal on the diagatube. On Monday, September 3, 2012 6:47:16 PM UTC-7, Peter Pesce wrote: So let me get this straight. There were 10 of these made IIRC and only one person has fessed up to receiving theirs, and hardly any pictures? Something's fishy. ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/e4UgqoZYFTwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Test Ride
I have a Bombadil, an Atlantis, a Quickbeam, a SimpleOne, a Hilsen and...the Mystery Bike. (I know, there are recovery groups for this kind of an addiction. But the first step is acknowledging the problem, and I can't bring myself to that point!) All are truly lovely bikes, but the Mystery Bike is the smoothest of them all. I don't know why -- maybe Grant knows, or maybe he just guessed -- but the bike just swallows up road bumps and imperfections, yet still handles like a slalom skier. I'm not kidding; it's really a great bike. On Sep 6, 2012, at 4:40 PM, thebvo the...@gmail.commailto:the...@gmail.com wrote: It is a very cool looking bike I don't think that I've seen a Rivendell that I wouldn't want in my Guhrage. I guess I'm wondering how this Bike is different. I know that Riv's all have a feel, and a look to them (like a Reid Miles designed Blue Note album Cover), but it looks to me to be very similar to all the others. Perhaps this is an oversimplification and based on my ignorance of the bike's geometry, tubing, and all the other things that give a bike its characteristics. This is not a jab at the bike or its design. I'm just curious how this bike sits in a unique stall in Rivendell's stable. It's been a secret, so perhaps thats why I don't know. But I'd love to know Kampai! On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 1:11:13 PM UTC+9, grant wrote: Four are still in paint. Three are painted here, one has been assembled and needs to be boxed and shipped, and not everybody's on the Forum. The bike...to me, is astounding. I just love how it feels, everything it does. It's not a sportsy bike or the kind of bike that---well, at some point we'll have a production model (meaning I think it is a good design). The specials have a Riv badge and a Protovelo decal---although Thomas's went out before decaling, so I sent him a decal and instructions. All of the specials get a single top-mounted decal on the diagatube. On Monday, September 3, 2012 6:47:16 PM UTC-7, Peter Pesce wrote: So let me get this straight. There were 10 of these made IIRC and only one person has fessed up to receiving theirs, and hardly any pictures? Something's fishy. ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/FDaAHUH136oJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/FDaAHUH136oJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Test Ride
Again, I know Grant is not a lover of IGH but this bike just seems perfect for an Alfine 11 or Rohloff setup, no front deraileur needed, nice straight chainline, beatufiul. On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: I have a Bombadil, an Atlantis, a Quickbeam, a SimpleOne, a Hilsen and...the Mystery Bike. (I know, there are recovery groups for this kind of an addiction. But the first step is acknowledging the problem, and I can't bring myself to that point!) All are truly lovely bikes, but the Mystery Bike is the smoothest of them all. I don't know why -- maybe Grant knows, or maybe he just guessed -- but the bike just swallows up road bumps and imperfections, yet still handles like a slalom skier. I'm not kidding; it's really a great bike. On Sep 6, 2012, at 4:40 PM, thebvo the...@gmail.com wrote: It is a very cool looking bike I don't think that I've seen a Rivendell that I wouldn't want in my Guhrage. I guess I'm wondering how this Bike is different. I know that Riv's all have a feel, and a look to them (like a Reid Miles designed Blue Note album Cover), but it looks to me to be very similar to all the others. Perhaps this is an oversimplification and based on my ignorance of the bike's geometry, tubing, and all the other things that give a bike its characteristics. This is not a jab at the bike or its design. I'm just curious how this bike sits in a unique stall in Rivendell's stable. It's been a secret, so perhaps thats why I don't know. But I'd love to know Kampai! On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 1:11:13 PM UTC+9, grant wrote: Four are still in paint. Three are painted here, one has been assembled and needs to be boxed and shipped, and not everybody's on the Forum. The bike...to me, is astounding. I just love how it feels, everything it does. It's not a sportsy bike or the kind of bike that---well, at some point we'll have a production model (meaning I think it is a good design). The specials have a Riv badge and a Protovelo decal---although Thomas's went out before decaling, so I sent him a decal and instructions. All of the specials get a single top-mounted decal on the diagatube. On Monday, September 3, 2012 6:47:16 PM UTC-7, Peter Pesce wrote: So let me get this straight. There were 10 of these made IIRC and only one person has fessed up to receiving theirs, and hardly any pictures? Something's fishy. ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/FDaAHUH136oJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/FDaAHUH136oJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners
Re: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Test Ride
Teardown/reassembly-with-Pauls tonight, and I promise some pics of the process, boys and girls. On Sep 3, 2012, at 5:45 PM, J. Burkhalter burk...@yahoo.commailto:burk...@yahoo.com wrote: On Monday, September 3, 2012 8:47:43 AM UTC-4, Pudge wrote: Before I remove the entire Mark's Rack/Platracks/fender-mounted-with-daruma assembly to try them, does anyone know whether Paul Racers have better fender clearance than the Tektro side pulls on the bike now? The Paul Racers have much better fender clearance than the Tektros. I have them on my Bleriot and they offer oodles of room for Hetres and fenders. I've even fit the Schwalbe Fatties and fenders under the Racers (not recommended, though). The have 54mm of horizontal clearance, IIRC. -Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8bdBeY-Z2fwJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8bdBeY-Z2fwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Test Ride
Thanks! I hope my wink adequately conveyed that I didn't *really* think anything was fishy! Just eager to see... Pete (irony is the only thing you can't get on the internet) in CT On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 12:11:13 AM UTC-4, grant wrote: Four are still in paint. Three are painted here, one has been assembled and needs to be boxed and shipped, and not everybody's on the Forum. The bike...to me, is astounding. I just love how it feels, everything it does. It's not a sportsy bike or the kind of bike that---well, at some point we'll have a production model (meaning I think it is a good design). The specials have a Riv badge and a Protovelo decal---although Thomas's went out before decaling, so I sent him a decal and instructions. All of the specials get a single top-mounted decal on the diagatube. On Monday, September 3, 2012 6:47:16 PM UTC-7, Peter Pesce wrote: So let me get this straight. There were 10 of these made IIRC and only one person has fessed up to receiving theirs, and hardly any pictures? Something's fishy. ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Ds3zEgugLiIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Test Ride
Well, I was going to wait till it was fully built -- fenders, racks, bags, the works. But the inevitable glitches reared their ugly heads: 41mm Marathons don't permit 52mm VO fenders, so tried terra cotta SOMA Xpress, which permit the fenders, but then it turns out that the brakes aren't wide enough for the fenders (and in any case Grant urged the EA group not to use tires 38mm (pedal strike issues), which may eliminate the ~35mm New Xpress rubber as a solution. (Nice looking, though!). Before I remove the entire Mark's Rack/Platracks/fender-mounted-with-daruma assembly to try them, does anyone know whether Paul Racers have better fender clearance than the Tektro side pulls on the bike now? Anyway, maybe time to post a few shots without all the accoutrements, to prove (as Manny would say) that the bike actually can be ridden! On Sep 1, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Marc Irwin irwin7...@gmail.commailto:irwin7...@gmail.com wrote: we still like pictures! On Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:30:05 AM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote: I don't need pictures to prove it happened, I can see you grinning! On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:11:25 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: Oh, boy... Fixed the bent derailleur hanger and dropout on my Mystery Bike, finished a quick basic assembly last night, and took it for a brief trial run (no lights, so only a couple of miles) around the neighborhood. Verdict: Wow. It's unquestionably the must luxurious bike I've ever ridden -- smoothes out bumps like they weren't there (~40mm Marathons may have something to do with that, but they're certainly not the most supple mid-fat tire in the line-up, so I think it's mostly the bike). Not just a Cadillac -- it's a Rolls limo. But at the same time it handles beautifully, goes exactly where it's pointed (even at very low speeds), and is insanely comfortable in the saddle. And the most amazing thing is that with the Bullmoose Bosco bars, when I stood up to mash on a high gear uphill (the derailleur/shifter was slipping, so I didn't shift much -- I'll work on that tonight), it was as if somebody had reached down and made the perfect bike/fit for me alone. The grips were in the perfect spot; everything seemed perfectly aligned; it was really almost too easy. This bike is a home run. It's going to be my main commuter and errand bike, so it's getting a Platrack with large Wald basket and large Shopsack on the front, and a large Nitto Rear Rack on the back, probably with some Swift Industries Short Stack panniers. SON hub with Supernova lights front and rear. VO fluted aluminum fenders. And maybe even some of them-there Thin Gripsters, too. Or maybe a set of Hillbubba's Grip King Deluxes. Woo-hoo! From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comhttp://googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of clamp...@cox.net Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 5:29 PM To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike! Has this particular bike or any of the other ones been posted as a completed build? I really, really like the look of the one posted in this thread. On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 12:11:53 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: Is here, but no time to assemble. But here's a pic... No name, no decals. We can call it whatever we want! -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web
Re: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Test Ride
Never having touched a Paul Racer, * in theory * the Racer or any dual-pivot centerpull should maximize clearance for a given brake reach, since the dual-pivot centerpull configuration allows both arms to move up they actuate the brake, rather than one pivoting down as is so on dual-pivot sidepulls. On Monday, September 3, 2012 5:47:43 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: Well, I was going to wait till it was fully built -- fenders, racks, bags, the works. But the inevitable glitches reared their ugly heads: 41mm Marathons don't permit 52mm VO fenders, so tried terra cotta SOMA Xpress, which permit the fenders, but then it turns out that the brakes aren't wide enough for the fenders (and in any case Grant urged the EA group not to use tires 38mm (pedal strike issues), which may eliminate the ~35mm New Xpress rubber as a solution. (Nice looking, though!). Before I remove the entire Mark's Rack/Platracks/fender-mounted-with-daruma assembly to try them, does anyone know whether Paul Racers have better fender clearance than the Tektro side pulls on the bike now? Anyway, maybe time to post a few shots without all the accoutrements, to prove (as Manny would say) that the bike actually can be ridden! On Sep 1, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Marc Irwin irwi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: we still like pictures! On Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:30:05 AM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote: I don't need pictures to prove it happened, I can see you grinning! On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:11:25 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: Oh, boy... Fixed the bent derailleur hanger and dropout on my Mystery Bike, finished a quick basic assembly last night, and took it for a brief trial run (no lights, so only a couple of miles) around the neighborhood. Verdict: Wow. It's unquestionably the must luxurious bike I've ever ridden -- smoothes out bumps like they weren't there (~40mm Marathons may have something to do with that, but they're certainly not the most supple mid-fat tire in the line-up, so I think it's mostly the bike). Not just a Cadillac -- it's a Rolls limo. But at the same time it handles beautifully, goes exactly where it's pointed (even at very low speeds), and is insanely comfortable in the saddle. And the most amazing thing is that with the Bullmoose Bosco bars, when I stood up to mash on a high gear uphill (the derailleur/shifter was slipping, so I didn't shift much -- I'll work on that tonight), it was as if somebody had reached down and made the perfect bike/fit for me alone. The grips were in the perfect spot; everything seemed perfectly aligned; it was really almost too easy. This bike is a home run. It's going to be my main commuter and errand bike, so it's getting a Platrack with large Wald basket and large Shopsack on the front, and a large Nitto Rear Rack on the back, probably with some Swift Industries Short Stack panniers. SON hub with Supernova lights front and rear. VO fluted aluminum fenders. And maybe even some of them-there Thin Gripsters, too. Or maybe a set of Hillbubba's Grip King Deluxes. Woo-hoo! -- *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@ googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *clamp...@cox.net *Sent:* Wednesday, August 15, 2012 5:29 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike! Has this particular bike or any of the other ones been posted as a completed build? I really, really like the look of the one posted in this thread. On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 12:11:53 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: Is here, but no time to assemble. But here's a pic... No name, no decals. We can call it whatever we want! -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any
Re: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Test Ride
Photographs of the process would be interesting.. On Monday, September 3, 2012 5:47:43 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: Well, I was going to wait till it was fully built -- fenders, racks, bags, the works. But the inevitable glitches reared their ugly heads: 41mm Marathons don't permit 52mm VO fenders, so tried terra cotta SOMA Xpress, which permit the fenders, but then it turns out that the brakes aren't wide enough for the fenders (and in any case Grant urged the EA group not to use tires 38mm (pedal strike issues), which may eliminate the ~35mm New Xpress rubber as a solution. (Nice looking, though!). Before I remove the entire Mark's Rack/Platracks/fender-mounted-with-daruma assembly to try them, does anyone know whether Paul Racers have better fender clearance than the Tektro side pulls on the bike now? Anyway, maybe time to post a few shots without all the accoutrements, to prove (as Manny would say) that the bike actually can be ridden! On Sep 1, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Marc Irwin irwi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: we still like pictures! On Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:30:05 AM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote: I don't need pictures to prove it happened, I can see you grinning! On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:11:25 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: Oh, boy... Fixed the bent derailleur hanger and dropout on my Mystery Bike, finished a quick basic assembly last night, and took it for a brief trial run (no lights, so only a couple of miles) around the neighborhood. Verdict: Wow. It's unquestionably the must luxurious bike I've ever ridden -- smoothes out bumps like they weren't there (~40mm Marathons may have something to do with that, but they're certainly not the most supple mid-fat tire in the line-up, so I think it's mostly the bike). Not just a Cadillac -- it's a Rolls limo. But at the same time it handles beautifully, goes exactly where it's pointed (even at very low speeds), and is insanely comfortable in the saddle. And the most amazing thing is that with the Bullmoose Bosco bars, when I stood up to mash on a high gear uphill (the derailleur/shifter was slipping, so I didn't shift much -- I'll work on that tonight), it was as if somebody had reached down and made the perfect bike/fit for me alone. The grips were in the perfect spot; everything seemed perfectly aligned; it was really almost too easy. This bike is a home run. It's going to be my main commuter and errand bike, so it's getting a Platrack with large Wald basket and large Shopsack on the front, and a large Nitto Rear Rack on the back, probably with some Swift Industries Short Stack panniers. SON hub with Supernova lights front and rear. VO fluted aluminum fenders. And maybe even some of them-there Thin Gripsters, too. Or maybe a set of Hillbubba's Grip King Deluxes. Woo-hoo! -- *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@ googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *clamp...@cox.net *Sent:* Wednesday, August 15, 2012 5:29 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike! Has this particular bike or any of the other ones been posted as a completed build? I really, really like the look of the one posted in this thread. On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 12:11:53 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: Is here, but no time to assemble. But here's a pic... No name, no decals. We can call it whatever we want! -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Test Ride
Strange that the clearances are that tight. It's also pretty strange that it can fit wider tires/fenders than the brakes can handle. (Tektro 559 I assume?) Seems like cantilever brake mounts should have been more appropriate. Johan, Sweden On Monday, September 3, 2012 2:47:43 PM UTC+2, Pudge wrote: Well, I was going to wait till it was fully built -- fenders, racks, bags, the works. But the inevitable glitches reared their ugly heads: 41mm Marathons don't permit 52mm VO fenders, so tried terra cotta SOMA Xpress, which permit the fenders, but then it turns out that the brakes aren't wide enough for the fenders (and in any case Grant urged the EA group not to use tires 38mm (pedal strike issues), which may eliminate the ~35mm New Xpress rubber as a solution. (Nice looking, though!). Before I remove the entire Mark's Rack/Platracks/fender-mounted-with-daruma assembly to try them, does anyone know whether Paul Racers have better fender clearance than the Tektro side pulls on the bike now? Anyway, maybe time to post a few shots without all the accoutrements, to prove (as Manny would say) that the bike actually can be ridden! On Sep 1, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Marc Irwin irwi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: we still like pictures! On Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:30:05 AM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote: I don't need pictures to prove it happened, I can see you grinning! On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:11:25 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: Oh, boy... Fixed the bent derailleur hanger and dropout on my Mystery Bike, finished a quick basic assembly last night, and took it for a brief trial run (no lights, so only a couple of miles) around the neighborhood. Verdict: Wow. It's unquestionably the must luxurious bike I've ever ridden -- smoothes out bumps like they weren't there (~40mm Marathons may have something to do with that, but they're certainly not the most supple mid-fat tire in the line-up, so I think it's mostly the bike). Not just a Cadillac -- it's a Rolls limo. But at the same time it handles beautifully, goes exactly where it's pointed (even at very low speeds), and is insanely comfortable in the saddle. And the most amazing thing is that with the Bullmoose Bosco bars, when I stood up to mash on a high gear uphill (the derailleur/shifter was slipping, so I didn't shift much -- I'll work on that tonight), it was as if somebody had reached down and made the perfect bike/fit for me alone. The grips were in the perfect spot; everything seemed perfectly aligned; it was really almost too easy. This bike is a home run. It's going to be my main commuter and errand bike, so it's getting a Platrack with large Wald basket and large Shopsack on the front, and a large Nitto Rear Rack on the back, probably with some Swift Industries Short Stack panniers. SON hub with Supernova lights front and rear. VO fluted aluminum fenders. And maybe even some of them-there Thin Gripsters, too. Or maybe a set of Hillbubba's Grip King Deluxes. Woo-hoo! -- *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@ googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *clamp...@cox.net *Sent:* Wednesday, August 15, 2012 5:29 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike! Has this particular bike or any of the other ones been posted as a completed build? I really, really like the look of the one posted in this thread. On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 12:11:53 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: Is here, but no time to assemble. But here's a pic... No name, no decals. We can call it whatever we want! -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about
Re: [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Test Ride
On Monday, September 3, 2012 8:47:43 AM UTC-4, Pudge wrote: Before I remove the entire Mark's Rack/Platracks/fender-mounted-with-daruma assembly to try them, does anyone know whether Paul Racers have better fender clearance than the Tektro side pulls on the bike now? The Paul Racers have much better fender clearance than the Tektros. I have them on my Bleriot and they offer oodles of room for Hetres and fenders. I've even fit the Schwalbe Fatties and fenders under the Racers (not recommended, though). The have 54mm of horizontal clearance, IIRC. -Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8bdBeY-Z2fwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Test Ride
So let me get this straight. There were 10 of these made IIRC and only one person has fessed up to receiving theirs, and hardly any pictures? Something's fishy. ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/YwDVPJHf4Q8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Test Ride
Four are still in paint. Three are painted here, one has been assembled and needs to be boxed and shipped, and not everybody's on the Forum. The bike...to me, is astounding. I just love how it feels, everything it does. It's not a sportsy bike or the kind of bike that---well, at some point we'll have a production model (meaning I think it is a good design). The specials have a Riv badge and a Protovelo decal---although Thomas's went out before decaling, so I sent him a decal and instructions. All of the specials get a single top-mounted decal on the diagatube. On Monday, September 3, 2012 6:47:16 PM UTC-7, Peter Pesce wrote: So let me get this straight. There were 10 of these made IIRC and only one person has fessed up to receiving theirs, and hardly any pictures? Something's fishy. ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/iioykNC3UJUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Test Ride
we still like pictures! On Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:30:05 AM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote: I don't need pictures to prove it happened, I can see you grinning! On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:11:25 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: Oh, boy... Fixed the bent derailleur hanger and dropout on my Mystery Bike, finished a quick basic assembly last night, and took it for a brief trial run (no lights, so only a couple of miles) around the neighborhood. Verdict: Wow. It's unquestionably the must luxurious bike I've ever ridden -- smoothes out bumps like they weren't there (~40mm Marathons may have something to do with that, but they're certainly not the most supple mid-fat tire in the line-up, so I think it's mostly the bike). Not just a Cadillac -- it's a Rolls limo. But at the same time it handles beautifully, goes exactly where it's pointed (even at very low speeds), and is insanely comfortable in the saddle. And the most amazing thing is that with the Bullmoose Bosco bars, when I stood up to mash on a high gear uphill (the derailleur/shifter was slipping, so I didn't shift much -- I'll work on that tonight), it was as if somebody had reached down and made the perfect bike/fit for me alone. The grips were in the perfect spot; everything seemed perfectly aligned; it was really almost too easy. This bike is a home run. It's going to be my main commuter and errand bike, so it's getting a Platrack with large Wald basket and large Shopsack on the front, and a large Nitto Rear Rack on the back, probably with some Swift Industries Short Stack panniers. SON hub with Supernova lights front and rear. VO fluted aluminum fenders. And maybe even some of them-there Thin Gripsters, too. Or maybe a set of Hillbubba's Grip King Deluxes. Woo-hoo! -- *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *clamp...@cox.net *Sent:* Wednesday, August 15, 2012 5:29 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike! Has this particular bike or any of the other ones been posted as a completed build? I really, really like the look of the one posted in this thread. On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 12:11:53 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: Is here, but no time to assemble. But here's a pic... No name, no decals. We can call it whatever we want! -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vkUR7rLyikQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting,
[RBW] Re: Mystery Bike Test Ride
I don't need pictures to prove it happened, I can see you grinning! On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:11:25 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: Oh, boy... Fixed the bent derailleur hanger and dropout on my Mystery Bike, finished a quick basic assembly last night, and took it for a brief trial run (no lights, so only a couple of miles) around the neighborhood. Verdict: Wow. It's unquestionably the must luxurious bike I've ever ridden -- smoothes out bumps like they weren't there (~40mm Marathons may have something to do with that, but they're certainly not the most supple mid-fat tire in the line-up, so I think it's mostly the bike). Not just a Cadillac -- it's a Rolls limo. But at the same time it handles beautifully, goes exactly where it's pointed (even at very low speeds), and is insanely comfortable in the saddle. And the most amazing thing is that with the Bullmoose Bosco bars, when I stood up to mash on a high gear uphill (the derailleur/shifter was slipping, so I didn't shift much -- I'll work on that tonight), it was as if somebody had reached down and made the perfect bike/fit for me alone. The grips were in the perfect spot; everything seemed perfectly aligned; it was really almost too easy. This bike is a home run. It's going to be my main commuter and errand bike, so it's getting a Platrack with large Wald basket and large Shopsack on the front, and a large Nitto Rear Rack on the back, probably with some Swift Industries Short Stack panniers. SON hub with Supernova lights front and rear. VO fluted aluminum fenders. And maybe even some of them-there Thin Gripsters, too. Or maybe a set of Hillbubba's Grip King Deluxes. Woo-hoo! -- *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of * clamp...@cox.net javascript: *Sent:* Wednesday, August 15, 2012 5:29 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Mystery Bike! Has this particular bike or any of the other ones been posted as a completed build? I really, really like the look of the one posted in this thread. On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 12:11:53 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: Is here, but no time to assemble. But here's a pic... No name, no decals. We can call it whatever we want! -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vkUR7rLyikQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to
