Re: [RBW] Re: Need shoe recommendations for riding.

2013-07-21 Thread Michael Rivers
Try to get rid of the toe clips and move your feet around.  I use Grip Kings 
and Tevas with or without socks, or Sambas with heavy wool socks below 40 deg.  
When I'm seated I have the ball of my feet just in front of the spindle.  When 
I have a slower cadence or am out of the saddle I shift my feet forward so the 
middle of my arch is over the spindle.  I think I heard this first in a Riv 
Reader?  Large platforms, as has been discussed above, make the firmness of the 
shoe less important, and moving your feet around the pedals during the ride can 
eliminate hot spots.  This also helped me with knee pain after 40-50 miles with 
speedplays.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Need shoe recommendations for riding.

2013-07-21 Thread Ron Mc
I am riding with friends who are training to climb Donner Pass in 5 weeks. 
 We climbed 2300' over 38 miles in the Texas hill country today.  I rode my 
bike with the 30-inch gear for this climb, and took off the Grip Kings off 
to ride with touring pedals and toe clips.  I ride with different shoes 
using the two different pedals, so each has their place.  

On Sunday, July 21, 2013 5:22:22 PM UTC-5, Michael Rivers wrote:

 Try to get rid of the toe clips and move your feet around.  I use Grip 
 Kings and Tevas with or without socks, or Sambas with heavy wool socks 
 below 40 deg.  When I'm seated I have the ball of my feet just in front of 
 the spindle.  When I have a slower cadence or am out of the saddle I shift 
 my feet forward so the middle of my arch is over the spindle.  I think I 
 heard this first in a Riv Reader?  Large platforms, as has been discussed 
 above, make the firmness of the shoe less important, and moving your feet 
 around the pedals during the ride can eliminate hot spots.  This also 
 helped me with knee pain after 40-50 miles with speedplays.

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[RBW] Re: Need shoe recommendations for riding.

2013-07-20 Thread Mike On A Bike
On the minimalist end of the continuum, I'd recommend the Vivobarefoot 
breatho model. It's super lightweight, grippy (lugged sole), breathable 
and very comfortable for walking. I know lots of people like a stiff shoe 
for cycling, but I find this barefoot running shoe to be perfect as it's 
sturdy enough for riding and yet feels like the least restrictive shoe you 
could get. I use them with the thin gripster pedals and love the setup, 
never ever slip. 

They seem to be pretty well made as I've had a pair for 9 months and they 
still look pretty good. I've tried several patagonia models, Chacos, 
Chrome, et. al., and I don't feel like I could find a better shoe, and by a 
good margin. 

On Thursday, July 18, 2013 10:05:21 AM UTC-4, Frank Brose wrote:

 5.10 Dirtbags. I bought a pair a month ago and have been pleasantly 
 suprised at how good they are. I too ride MKS touring pedals with clips and 
 straps and these are the best shoes I've tried to date.
  

 On Thursday, September 20, 2012 1:12:10 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:

 Specifically something that is for regular pedals - not clipless.
 I use MKS Touring Pedals with MKS toe clips - no straps.
 Looking for something that has a harder sole for longer rides.
 My regular, every day shoes are great on commutes, but feel a little soft 
 on standing climbs, and sometimes my toes get squished as they get jammed 
 in the front of the shoe.
  
 I can put up with it for the short rides, but I think it would get on me 
 nerves on longer rides.
  
 Any tips are welcome.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Need shoe recommendations for riding.

2013-07-20 Thread Matt Beebe
I like to just use pedals that are shoe-agnostic, rubber block pedals are 
good for this.   I imagine grip-kings are good too if you don't use pins, 
but rubber is definitely easy on leather soles, moccasins or bare feet.

Matt

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Re: [RBW] Re: Need shoe recommendations for riding.

2013-07-20 Thread Bruce Herbitter
From suggestions on this list, I've tried Adiddas Samba Milleniums, and
Vitruvian running shoed. The 1st are a bit narrow for me, while the second
are super comfy, but the sole comes unglued after a while due to the
pressure of the pedal (MKS Sylvans) in the center of the shoe.  I also use
and like Patagonia Boaris shoes in cooler weather.

In hot weather, I perfer Keen sandals. For short casual rides, the street
sandals. For longer rides, cycling sandals (I remove the steel plate as I
don't use cleats) with stiffer sole.

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[RBW] Re: Need shoe recommendations for riding.

2013-07-18 Thread Frank Brose
5.10 Dirtbags. I bought a pair a month ago and have been pleasantly 
suprised at how good they are. I too ride MKS touring pedals with clips and 
straps and these are the best shoes I've tried to date.
 

On Thursday, September 20, 2012 1:12:10 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:

 Specifically something that is for regular pedals - not clipless.
 I use MKS Touring Pedals with MKS toe clips - no straps.
 Looking for something that has a harder sole for longer rides.
 My regular, every day shoes are great on commutes, but feel a little soft 
 on standing climbs, and sometimes my toes get squished as they get jammed 
 in the front of the shoe.
  
 I can put up with it for the short rides, but I think it would get on me 
 nerves on longer rides.
  
 Any tips are welcome.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Need shoe recommendations for riding.

2013-07-17 Thread BSWP
The shoes from *Quoc Pham* look pretty good. If only they came in my extra 
large size, I would get a pair.

http://www.quocpham.com/products/fs0905.html

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: Need shoe recommendations for riding.

2013-07-17 Thread Kelly
I'll second or third or whatever duplicate this may be... the larger BMX 
style pedals are sweet and allow a much larger range of shoes.   I've 
ridden the last two tours and the last two 60 to 70 mile rides with normal 
sandals.  Good out of the saddle etc.  
Once again it's my experience and it may not be for everyone but something 
to think about rather than be tied to a single pair of shoes.

Kelly

On Thursday, September 20, 2012 1:12:10 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:

 Specifically something that is for regular pedals - not clipless.
 I use MKS Touring Pedals with MKS toe clips - no straps.
 Looking for something that has a harder sole for longer rides.
 My regular, every day shoes are great on commutes, but feel a little soft 
 on standing climbs, and sometimes my toes get squished as they get jammed 
 in the front of the shoe.
  
 I can put up with it for the short rides, but I think it would get on me 
 nerves on longer rides.
  
 Any tips are welcome.


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[RBW] Re: Need shoe recommendations for riding.

2013-07-17 Thread Mattt


 I use Pumas with Power Straps.  I don't have to worry about squished 
 toes.  I know power straps are the third rail of cool bike accessories.

 
 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002EENI72/ref=oh_details_o00_s01_i00?ie=UTF8psc=1
 

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[RBW] Re: Need shoe recommendations for riding.

2013-07-17 Thread rob markwardt
Vans or Adidas Samba Millenium  (stiffer, sturdier than the original 
Samba)...they also last a long time.



On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 6:51:37 PM UTC-7, Mattt wrote:

 I use Pumas with Power Straps.  I don't have to worry about squished 
 toes.  I know power straps are the third rail of cool bike accessories.

  
  

 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002EENI72/ref=oh_details_o00_s01_i00?ie=UTF8psc=1
  


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[RBW] Re: Need shoe recommendations for riding.

2013-07-17 Thread Ron Mc
www.sierratradingpost.com is a great place to buy quality sneakers for cheap

On Thursday, September 20, 2012 1:12:10 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:

 Specifically something that is for regular pedals - not clipless.
 I use MKS Touring Pedals with MKS toe clips - no straps.
 Looking for something that has a harder sole for longer rides.
 My regular, every day shoes are great on commutes, but feel a little soft 
 on standing climbs, and sometimes my toes get squished as they get jammed 
 in the front of the shoe.
  
 I can put up with it for the short rides, but I think it would get on me 
 nerves on longer rides.
  
 Any tips are welcome.


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[RBW] Re: Need shoe recommendations for riding.

2012-09-21 Thread Ginz
I may have been the guy who recommended the Gola Harrier to Joe.  My
favorite bike shoe, though not easy to find, has the thicker and
stiffer sole you are looking for.  When compared to other soccer shoes
like the Adidas Samba, I find the Gola sole to be stiffer more rigid
in a good way.

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[RBW] Re: Need shoe recommendations for riding.

2012-09-21 Thread Joe Bernard
Yep, I'm pretty sure you're the one, and you're right about the stiff sole. 
It's excellent for pedaling, and borderline *too* stiff as a 
walking-around-all-day shoe. But I only use it for biking/walking. It's 
perfect for that.
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Friday, September 21, 2012 6:01:21 AM UTC-7, Ginz wrote:

 I may have been the guy who recommended the Gola Harrier to Joe.  My 
 favorite bike shoe, though not easy to find, has the thicker and 
 stiffer sole you are looking for.  When compared to other soccer shoes 
 like the Adidas Samba, I find the Gola sole to be stiffer more rigid 
 in a good way. 


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[RBW] Re: Need shoe recommendations for riding.

2012-09-21 Thread Philip Williamson
I just had DZR recommended to me this weekend by someone who has the Chrome 
shoes and likes the DZRs better, at least with the cleats in.
http://www.bikerumor.com/2010/09/25/interbike-2010-cool-new-shoes-from-dzr/

Philip
www.biketinker.com 

On Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:49:10 AM UTC-7, davidfrench wrote:

 I have some Chrome and they are really nice. City, mountain bike, they do 
 great. And comes in 14 which is pretty nice
 The other brand I like is DZR, from san Francisco. They have the spd sole 
 ready, but if you don't cut out the sole, you can use them as is. The day 
 you really want spd you just have to cut the sole and install the cleat.
 I abandoned the spd too, platform pedals are just perfect. And all that 
 before reading Grant's book!
 :-P



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Re: [RBW] Re: Need shoe recommendations for riding.

2012-09-21 Thread PATRICK MOORE
If one uses spd-compatible shoes for cycling, why not use spd pedals too?
Some have very large platforms.

Just curious. I thought the whole point of non-retention was to be free of
special shoes, no?

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yep, I'm pretty sure you're the one, and you're right about the stiff
 sole. It's excellent for pedaling, and borderline *too* stiff as a
 walking-around-all-day shoe. But I only use it for biking/walking. It's
 perfect for that.

 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

 On Friday, September 21, 2012 6:01:21 AM UTC-7, Ginz wrote:

 I may have been the guy who recommended the Gola Harrier to Joe.  My
 favorite bike shoe, though not easy to find, has the thicker and
 stiffer sole you are looking for.  When compared to other soccer shoes
 like the Adidas Samba, I find the Gola sole to be stiffer more rigid
 in a good way.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Need shoe recommendations for riding.

2012-09-21 Thread Matthew J
Recently bought a pair of Ecco Andrews.  Nice looking comfortable shoe made in 
Slovakia.  Have not had the pair long enough to make any claims to durability 
but am so far quite happy.

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[RBW] Re: Need shoe recommendations for riding.

2012-09-20 Thread Joe Bernard
A list member recommended Gola Harrier to me, and I'm very happy with them. 
I use them with Touring, Grip King, and RMX pedals.
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:12:10 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 Specifically something that is for regular pedals - not clipless.
 I use MKS Touring Pedals with MKS toe clips - no straps.
 Looking for something that has a harder sole for longer rides.
 My regular, every day shoes are great on commutes, but feel a little soft 
 on standing climbs, and sometimes my toes get squished as they get jammed 
 in the front of the shoe.
  
 I can put up with it for the short rides, but I think it would get on me 
 nerves on longer rides.
  
 Any tips are welcome.


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[RBW] Re: Need shoe recommendations for riding.

2012-09-20 Thread charlie
My biggest comfort light bulb went on when I abandoned the toe clips and 
went to using BMX platform pin pedals with a large surface area similar to 
the ones Riv is now selling. Basically a 4x4 inch pedal with pins. I ride 
with my daily shoes, New Balance outdoor shoes (brown suede leather 
looking) these come in wide sizes so my toes don't get squished. In super 
hot weather I might wear my Teva sandals but stubbed my toes too many times 
with them and have three mangled toenails to prove it.  the large pedal 
surface eliminates the pain in my feet. I had the excellent MKS touring 
pedals but the cage bit into my shoes causing numbness on longer rides.

On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:12:10 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 Specifically something that is for regular pedals - not clipless.
 I use MKS Touring Pedals with MKS toe clips - no straps.
 Looking for something that has a harder sole for longer rides.
 My regular, every day shoes are great on commutes, but feel a little soft 
 on standing climbs, and sometimes my toes get squished as they get jammed 
 in the front of the shoe.
  
 I can put up with it for the short rides, but I think it would get on me 
 nerves on longer rides.
  
 Any tips are welcome.


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[RBW] Re: Need shoe recommendations for riding.

2012-09-20 Thread davidfrench
I have some Chrome and they are really nice. City, mountain bike, they do 
great. And comes in 14 which is pretty nice
The other brand I like is DZR, from san Francisco. They have the spd sole 
ready, but if you don't cut out the sole, you can use them as is. The day 
you really want spd you just have to cut the sole and install the cleat.
I abandoned the spd too, platform pedals are just perfect. And all that 
before reading Grant's book!
:-P

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Re: [RBW] Re: Need shoe recommendations for riding.

2012-09-20 Thread Bruce Herbitter
I've found Patagonia Boaris shoes to have a nice stiff sole. I like them
better for pedaling in than walking. For doing both, Addidas Sambas are a
good choice.

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:49 AM, davidfrench nydavidfo...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have some Chrome and they are really nice. City, mountain bike, they do
 great. And comes in 14 which is pretty nice
 The other brand I like is DZR, from san Francisco. They have the spd sole
 ready, but if you don't cut out the sole, you can use them as is. The day
 you really want spd you just have to cut the sole and install the cleat.
 I abandoned the spd too, platform pedals are just perfect. And all that
 before reading Grant's book!
 :-P

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