[RBW] Re: New (to me) Berthoud Rack
I recently purchased a couple of these. It's a nice bag for layers, mini-pump/tools, sandwhiches and such, but I wouldn't rely on it for a stack of books. The design wouldn't stress the seatpost, though, as the rack would likely pivot down from the end of its stem-mount before the stem could get much leverage on the seatpost. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Monday, June 11, 2012 4:37:34 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: Just cruising around ebay doing some window shopping, came across this http://www.ebay.com/itm/GILLES-BERTHOUD-Rack-Mount-Saddlebag-GB604-Rivendell-Touring-Brevet-Bag-/160821528977?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2571b5c991 This is a new one to me, looks like alot of stress on the seatpost to me if bag was really loaded but maybe I am wrong. I am sure this is not new but just the first time I have seen this type of setup. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/MxmInIYsJXgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New (to me) Berthoud Rack
The Carradice SQR does the same job in a much less obtrusive way. I don't think either designed would impact a a good nitto or similar post. On Monday, June 11, 2012 7:37:34 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: Just cruising around ebay doing some window shopping, came across this http://www.ebay.com/itm/GILLES-BERTHOUD-Rack-Mount-Saddlebag-GB604-Rivendell-Touring-Brevet-Bag-/160821528977?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2571b5c991 This is a new one to me, looks like alot of stress on the seatpost to me if bag was really loaded but maybe I am wrong. I am sure this is not new but just the first time I have seen this type of setup. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/g_KvfzhICYUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New (to me) Berthoud Rack
+1 for the SQR. I've owned (and sold!) a number of them and it is a very effective and reasonably priced device. It is limited to 10 kg, but I daresay that the Berthoud device won't hold any more -- nor would you want it to, with the load cantilevered out so far from the saddle. The SQR holds the load closer in while keeping the bag off of your legs. On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: The Carradice SQR does the same job in a much less obtrusive way. I don't think either designed would impact a a good nitto or similar post. On Monday, June 11, 2012 7:37:34 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: Just cruising around ebay doing some window shopping, came across this http://www.ebay.com/itm/GILLES-BERTHOUD-Rack-Mount-Saddlebag-GB604-Rivendell-Touring-Brevet-Bag-/160821528977?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2571b5c991 This is a new one to me, looks like alot of stress on the seatpost to me if bag was really loaded but maybe I am wrong. I am sure this is not new but just the first time I have seen this type of setup. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/g_KvfzhICYUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New (to me) Berthoud Rack
This Berthoud exists for one reason, and cost/practicality ain't it: It's a lovely trunk-type bag for bikes without saddle loops or racks. It's not the most cost-effective, and won't take a touring load for overnight campouts. I like them because they look beautiful on the loopless/rackless bikes I mounted them on, and carry the types of loads I generally carry on bicycles. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:40:28 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: +1 for the SQR. I've owned (and sold!) a number of them and it is a very effective and reasonably priced device. It is limited to 10 kg, but I daresay that the Berthoud device won't hold any more -- nor would you want it to, with the load cantilevered out so far from the saddle. The SQR holds the load closer in while keeping the bag off of your legs. On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: The Carradice SQR does the same job in a much less obtrusive way. I don't think either designed would impact a a good nitto or similar post. On Monday, June 11, 2012 7:37:34 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: Just cruising around ebay doing some window shopping, came across this http://www.ebay.com/itm/GILLES-BERTHOUD-Rack-Mount-Saddlebag-GB604-Rivendell-Touring-Brevet-Bag-/160821528977?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2571b5c991 This is a new one to me, looks like alot of stress on the seatpost to me if bag was really loaded but maybe I am wrong. I am sure this is not new but just the first time I have seen this type of setup. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/g_KvfzhICYUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ygoIZ_RJSdsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: New (to me) Berthoud Rack
As Joe said, I use it on an old Ibis Mojo mountain bike with no braze-ons and no saddle loops. Works great. The rack and bag together are nearly $400 normally, which is awfully high. But Mike Kone at Boulder had a deal on the combo a while back for under $200, so I pulled thetrigger. I like it a lot; functional and very pretty bag, though the rack looks a little clumky installed.l From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Bernard Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:49 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: New (to me) Berthoud Rack This Berthoud exists for one reason, and cost/practicality ain't it: It's a lovely trunk-type bag for bikes without saddle loops or racks. It's not the most cost-effective, and won't take a touring load for overnight campouts. I like them because they look beautiful on the loopless/rackless bikes I mounted them on, and carry the types of loads I generally carry on bicycles. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:40:28 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: +1 for the SQR. I've owned (and sold!) a number of them and it is a very effective and reasonably priced device. It is limited to 10 kg, but I daresay that the Berthoud device won't hold any more -- nor would you want it to, with the load cantilevered out so far from the saddle. The SQR holds the load closer in while keeping the bag off of your legs. On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.commailto:mhech...@gmail.com wrote: The Carradice SQR does the same job in a much less obtrusive way. I don't think either designed would impact a a good nitto or similar post. On Monday, June 11, 2012 7:37:34 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: Just cruising around ebay doing some window shopping, came across this http://www.ebay.com/itm/GILLES-BERTHOUD-Rack-Mount-Saddlebag-GB604-Rivendell-Touring-Brevet-Bag-/160821528977?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2571b5c991 This is a new one to me, looks like alot of stress on the seatpost to me if bag was really loaded but maybe I am wrong. I am sure this is not new but just the first time I have seen this type of setup. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/g_KvfzhICYUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ygoIZ_RJSdsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request
