[RBW] Re: Single Speed in/around LA?

2018-04-24 Thread Matt
Hey Ruben—

Here's the route: https://ridewithgps.com/trips/22334784

I can't take any credit for it; it was put together by the guys who do the 
Passage Ride, which is my favorite ride in LA: 
http://www.thepassageride.com/

On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 5:27:25 PM UTC-7, Ruben Flores wrote:
>
> Hey Matt that looks like a great ride. PCH to Latigo, where did you get 
> across to Malibu Lake? Cornell to Las Vigenes open space I assume at the 
> 101? Any other fire road after you get to Simi?
>
> Ruben
>
> On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 6:39:40 PM UTC-7, Matt wrote:
>
>> Reid—LA rider here who just did the attached ride this weekend, probably 
>> 65% of it on dirt fire roads, trails and a bit of single track. 43s are a 
>> great idea but without the gears you'll be walking up more than a few hills 
>> (and even with the gears there are plenty of steep, rocky inclines where 
>> you'll struggle to keep traction). Still, the views from the top are always 
>> worth it.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 4:56:10 PM UTC-7, Reid Echols wrote:
>>>
>>> Philip, the thought had occurred to me! Probably not in the budget right 
>>> now, sadly. Also thinking the BMC's ability to clear Thunder Burts will 
>>> come in handy. 
>>>
>>> Patrick, your rambles actually inspired the initial choice to run the 
>>> BMC as a single speed. If I can get this (18t) freewheel unstuck, I'm 
>>> planning on having a WI dos eno setup: 38/35 up front, 16/19 in the back. 
>>> Depending on how thick of a tire I go with, I'm hoping that will give me a 
>>> decent cruising gear and a "trail gear".
>>>
>>> Thanks for the input everyone, I'll have to do some research and see how 
>>> far I'll be able to make it on the weekends. LA National Forest seems like 
>>> a great option. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 1:57:05 PM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote:

 Hey Reid, 
 Secret answer c) Buy the 64cm orange Quickbeam offered on the list in 
 LA! 

 Philip
 Always causing trouble in Santa Rosa, CA

 On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 10:47:25 AM UTC-7, Reid Echols wrote:
>
> Hi folks, I'll be traveling from Austin to Los Angeles in a few short 
> weeks for a fellowship at the Huntington Library, and am between bringing 
> a 
> "beater" aluminum 29er I could build up from spare parts or my trusty BMC 
> Monstercross, currently set up as a "dinglespeed" with 43c gravel tires. 
> I 
> can handle most of the Austin hills pretty handily, and really enjoy 
> riding 
> the BMC on local singletrack (not too many rock gardens, just the faster, 
> flowy stuff). 
>
> My question is, will I be able to fully enjoy the trails near LA on a 
> singlespeed, cross-style bike, or am I displaying a bit of hubris and 
> should just bring the more traditional mountain bike for the climbing 
> gears? I'll be commuting to the Huntington as well and don't want 
> anything 
> too flashy lest it be stolen. Local perspectives would be welcome! 
>
> All best, 
> Reid in Austin 
>


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[RBW] Re: Single Speed in/around LA?

2018-04-24 Thread Deacon Patrick
A couple things to keep in mind on ss/fixed and trail riding:

— there is a surprisingly small amount of “steep” that is ridable geared but 
requires LCG (lowest common gear, the gear every bike comes with) with a 
reasonable trail gear of 50-60”. 
— An attitude prevails that walking a bike is a failure, when in fact it is a 
legit gear. For the few dozen yards per mile more I walk, I don’t go much 
slower than most riders.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Single Speed in/around LA?

2018-04-24 Thread Drw
I think you'd be fine with 43's. 

As far as getting your bike stolen, it's "easily" avoidable. Don't leave it 
locked up too long or overnight. Keep it inside at home. Use a good U-lock, 
always. have pitlocks or something on your wheels. I say this as an LA 
native who has had 3 bikes, and two wheelsets stolen. In retrospect, all of 
these events could have been avoided if i knew more, was more consistent 
and less lazy. (my sins, in order, were - cable lock, left overnight, left 
unlocked on enclosed porch, left locked at a movie but no wheel locks, 
u-lock on frame but cable lock thru wheels.)

i wouldn't be afraid to bring a BMC here, if you're ready to be diligent 
about keeping it safe. 

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[RBW] Re: Single Speed in/around LA?

2018-04-24 Thread Reid Echols
Thanks everyone for all the advice! What can I say, this is a great corner of 
the internet to frequent. No one even got into an argument about gear inches. 

A lot of food for thought here; I’m wondering if the third path might just be 
to put gears back on the BMC? Will I feel the need for tires wider than 43mm 
gravelkings in whatever mix of LA National Forest/Pasadena commuting I find 
myself in? I should add that this trip will be a dry run for some UK travel 
later this summer (one of the few benefits of graduate school). I’m hoping to 
hit the Sweet spot between versatility, fun, and “not going to be utterly and 
entirely heartbroken if the bike is stolen” factor.

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[RBW] Re: Single Speed in/around LA?

2018-04-24 Thread Ruben Flores
Hey Matt that looks like a great ride. PCH to Latigo, where did you get 
across to Malibu Lake? Cornell to Las Vigenes open space I assume at the 
101? Any other fire road after you get to Simi?

Ruben

On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 6:39:40 PM UTC-7, Matt wrote:

> Reid—LA rider here who just did the attached ride this weekend, probably 
> 65% of it on dirt fire roads, trails and a bit of single track. 43s are a 
> great idea but without the gears you'll be walking up more than a few hills 
> (and even with the gears there are plenty of steep, rocky inclines where 
> you'll struggle to keep traction). Still, the views from the top are always 
> worth it.
>
>
> On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 4:56:10 PM UTC-7, Reid Echols wrote:
>>
>> Philip, the thought had occurred to me! Probably not in the budget right 
>> now, sadly. Also thinking the BMC's ability to clear Thunder Burts will 
>> come in handy. 
>>
>> Patrick, your rambles actually inspired the initial choice to run the BMC 
>> as a single speed. If I can get this (18t) freewheel unstuck, I'm planning 
>> on having a WI dos eno setup: 38/35 up front, 16/19 in the back. Depending 
>> on how thick of a tire I go with, I'm hoping that will give me a decent 
>> cruising gear and a "trail gear".
>>
>> Thanks for the input everyone, I'll have to do some research and see how 
>> far I'll be able to make it on the weekends. LA National Forest seems like 
>> a great option. 
>>
>> On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 1:57:05 PM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Reid, 
>>> Secret answer c) Buy the 64cm orange Quickbeam offered on the list in 
>>> LA! 
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> Always causing trouble in Santa Rosa, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 10:47:25 AM UTC-7, Reid Echols wrote:

 Hi folks, I'll be traveling from Austin to Los Angeles in a few short 
 weeks for a fellowship at the Huntington Library, and am between bringing 
 a 
 "beater" aluminum 29er I could build up from spare parts or my trusty BMC 
 Monstercross, currently set up as a "dinglespeed" with 43c gravel tires. I 
 can handle most of the Austin hills pretty handily, and really enjoy 
 riding 
 the BMC on local singletrack (not too many rock gardens, just the faster, 
 flowy stuff). 

 My question is, will I be able to fully enjoy the trails near LA on a 
 singlespeed, cross-style bike, or am I displaying a bit of hubris and 
 should just bring the more traditional mountain bike for the climbing 
 gears? I'll be commuting to the Huntington as well and don't want anything 
 too flashy lest it be stolen. Local perspectives would be welcome! 

 All best, 
 Reid in Austin 

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Single Speed in/around LA?

2018-04-24 Thread Patrick Moore
One option is a 17 X 21 Dingle cog (or White Industries DOS if you want a
freewheel). If you use the 17 for a 70" gear, the 21 would give you a ~57"
gear. If 65, then 53".

All this without the extravagant and appalling complexity of 2 chainrings.
(Yes. That is a joke.)

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[RBW] Re: Single Speed in/around LA?

2018-04-24 Thread Ruben Flores
Most (off road) riding in the greater Pasadena area is steep and rocky 
single track (10-20%) or long fire road climbs. (5-10%) throw in a 
little sun or heat and you will want gears. No one is going to bother 
(steal) your bike at the Huntington but if you use the bike to roll around 
the local area Pasadena, Monrovia, etc you will want something not worth 
stealing.

If you stay on the street you will still see lots of SS and fixies it the 
Pasadena / San Gabriel Valley. If you head north from there, not the best 
but pretty good road riding. When will you be here, TOC will be passing 
thru Ventura County on May 14-15. 

Ruben in Ventura County


n Monday, April 23, 2018 at 11:57:05 AM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:

> Hey Reid, 
> Secret answer c) Buy the 64cm orange Quickbeam offered on the list in LA! 
>
> Philip
> Always causing trouble in Santa Rosa, CA
>
> On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 10:47:25 AM UTC-7, Reid Echols wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks, I'll be traveling from Austin to Los Angeles in a few short 
>> weeks for a fellowship at the Huntington Library, and am between bringing a 
>> "beater" aluminum 29er I could build up from spare parts or my trusty BMC 
>> Monstercross, currently set up as a "dinglespeed" with 43c gravel tires. I 
>> can handle most of the Austin hills pretty handily, and really enjoy riding 
>> the BMC on local singletrack (not too many rock gardens, just the faster, 
>> flowy stuff). 
>>
>> My question is, will I be able to fully enjoy the trails near LA on a 
>> singlespeed, cross-style bike, or am I displaying a bit of hubris and 
>> should just bring the more traditional mountain bike for the climbing 
>> gears? I'll be commuting to the Huntington as well and don't want anything 
>> too flashy lest it be stolen. Local perspectives would be welcome! 
>>
>> All best, 
>> Reid in Austin 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Single Speed in/around LA?

2018-04-24 Thread T Cal
I like Philip's suggestion ;-)

To your question.  As an angeleno, I'll second many of the 
comments/suggestions made.  There is plenty you can do on a SS to fill up 
all your time/energy/enthusiasm.  AND there is plenty in addition for which 
gears would be most welcome.  If you are looking to get into the hills, 
even just on the fire roads, things can get a steep for a sustained 
distance.  I used to live in Austin.  The biggest difference to me is the 
longer, more sustained, climbs -- leaving from the beach in Santa Monica or 
Malibu and heading into the Santa Monica mountains gives a pretty steady 
2000' elevation climb.

On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 10:47:25 AM UTC-7, Reid Echols wrote:
>
> Hi folks, I'll be traveling from Austin to Los Angeles in a few short 
> weeks for a fellowship at the Huntington Library, and am between bringing a 
> "beater" aluminum 29er I could build up from spare parts or my trusty BMC 
> Monstercross, currently set up as a "dinglespeed" with 43c gravel tires. I 
> can handle most of the Austin hills pretty handily, and really enjoy riding 
> the BMC on local singletrack (not too many rock gardens, just the faster, 
> flowy stuff). 
>
> My question is, will I be able to fully enjoy the trails near LA on a 
> singlespeed, cross-style bike, or am I displaying a bit of hubris and 
> should just bring the more traditional mountain bike for the climbing 
> gears? I'll be commuting to the Huntington as well and don't want anything 
> too flashy lest it be stolen. Local perspectives would be welcome! 
>
> All best, 
> Reid in Austin 
>

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[RBW] Re: Single Speed in/around LA?

2018-04-24 Thread Garth
Take whatever bike you love riding the most what you really want to ride. 

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[RBW] Re: Single Speed in/around LA?

2018-04-23 Thread Jeffrey Arita
Hi Reid,

I am a resident of one of the numerous suburbs around Los Angeles 
(Claremont).  Assuming you are staying near the Pasadena area and you want 
to ride 'trails' (meaning dirt), you will likely want to bring a geared 
bike.  This assumes you want to do a lot the trails just north of Pasadena, 
within a VERY easy ride from the Huntington Library.  All you have to do is 
look due North and go up!  Once you reach the dirt trails they do go 
vertical quite quickly and stay that way until you get to the top.  Good 
brakes are a good thing too when you come down.

https://www.mtbproject.com/directory/8017025/pasadena

Some points to consider:


   - Even though you are really, really close to 'civilization' a short 
   ride up into the mountains will mean you are pretty much on your own.  Any 
   accident and it could be a helicopter ride out.  The terrain is quite steep 
   (that is why it is so hard to put the brush fires out).
   - It is getting warmer here in SoCal.  Might be a good idea to bring a 
   hydration pack, first aid kit, mobile phone and lights.  You never know 
   (see above bullet point).
   - We were up at the top of Mount Wilson last year on a bikepacking 
   trip.  At the top are numerous microwave towers and (I think) cell phone 
   towers.  I had ZERO cell phone signal.  Go figure.
   - Tell someone where you are going and when you plan on being back.  If 
   you aren't back at the appointed time, have your person call for help and 
   possibly summon rescue.  Again, it is so close to civilization but it is 
   the real deal.  Water is scarce and you could be in a world of hurt, 
   especially if by yourself.

Sorry to sound so negative but I'd rather be blunt and clear about the 
mountains that are so close to Pasadena.

++

IF you are sticking to sealed (aka paved) roads, then I think you can 
easily navigate them with a singlespeed.  Most of the paved roads are 
engineered so hills should not be a huge issue.

Have fun!

Jeff

On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 10:47:25 AM UTC-7, Reid Echols wrote:
>
> Hi folks, I'll be traveling from Austin to Los Angeles in a few short 
> weeks for a fellowship at the Huntington Library, and am between bringing a 
> "beater" aluminum 29er I could build up from spare parts or my trusty BMC 
> Monstercross, currently set up as a "dinglespeed" with 43c gravel tires. I 
> can handle most of the Austin hills pretty handily, and really enjoy riding 
> the BMC on local singletrack (not too many rock gardens, just the faster, 
> flowy stuff). 
>
> My question is, will I be able to fully enjoy the trails near LA on a 
> singlespeed, cross-style bike, or am I displaying a bit of hubris and 
> should just bring the more traditional mountain bike for the climbing 
> gears? I'll be commuting to the Huntington as well and don't want anything 
> too flashy lest it be stolen. Local perspectives would be welcome! 
>
> All best, 
> Reid in Austin 
>

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[RBW] Re: Single Speed in/around LA?

2018-04-23 Thread Matt
Reid—Also hit up the folks at the Golden Saddle Cyclery. They know all the 
dirt and all the routes and can give you a lot of great insight on where to 
ride based on what you're looking for.

On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 6:39:40 PM UTC-7, Matt wrote:
>
> Reid—LA rider here who just did the attached ride this weekend, probably 
> 65% of it on dirt fire roads, trails and a bit of single track. 43s are a 
> great idea but without the gears you'll be walking up more than a few hills 
> (and even with the gears there are plenty of steep, rocky inclines where 
> you'll struggle to keep traction). Still, the views from the top are always 
> worth it.
>
>
> On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 4:56:10 PM UTC-7, Reid Echols wrote:
>>
>> Philip, the thought had occurred to me! Probably not in the budget right 
>> now, sadly. Also thinking the BMC's ability to clear Thunder Burts will 
>> come in handy. 
>>
>> Patrick, your rambles actually inspired the initial choice to run the BMC 
>> as a single speed. If I can get this (18t) freewheel unstuck, I'm planning 
>> on having a WI dos eno setup: 38/35 up front, 16/19 in the back. Depending 
>> on how thick of a tire I go with, I'm hoping that will give me a decent 
>> cruising gear and a "trail gear".
>>
>> Thanks for the input everyone, I'll have to do some research and see how 
>> far I'll be able to make it on the weekends. LA National Forest seems like 
>> a great option. 
>>
>> On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 1:57:05 PM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Reid, 
>>> Secret answer c) Buy the 64cm orange Quickbeam offered on the list in 
>>> LA! 
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> Always causing trouble in Santa Rosa, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 10:47:25 AM UTC-7, Reid Echols wrote:

 Hi folks, I'll be traveling from Austin to Los Angeles in a few short 
 weeks for a fellowship at the Huntington Library, and am between bringing 
 a 
 "beater" aluminum 29er I could build up from spare parts or my trusty BMC 
 Monstercross, currently set up as a "dinglespeed" with 43c gravel tires. I 
 can handle most of the Austin hills pretty handily, and really enjoy 
 riding 
 the BMC on local singletrack (not too many rock gardens, just the faster, 
 flowy stuff). 

 My question is, will I be able to fully enjoy the trails near LA on a 
 singlespeed, cross-style bike, or am I displaying a bit of hubris and 
 should just bring the more traditional mountain bike for the climbing 
 gears? I'll be commuting to the Huntington as well and don't want anything 
 too flashy lest it be stolen. Local perspectives would be welcome! 

 All best, 
 Reid in Austin 

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Single Speed in/around LA?

2018-04-23 Thread Reid Echols
Philip, the thought had occurred to me! Probably not in the budget right 
now, sadly. Also thinking the BMC's ability to clear Thunder Burts will 
come in handy. 

Patrick, your rambles actually inspired the initial choice to run the BMC 
as a single speed. If I can get this (18t) freewheel unstuck, I'm planning 
on having a WI dos eno setup: 38/35 up front, 16/19 in the back. Depending 
on how thick of a tire I go with, I'm hoping that will give me a decent 
cruising gear and a "trail gear".

Thanks for the input everyone, I'll have to do some research and see how 
far I'll be able to make it on the weekends. LA National Forest seems like 
a great option. 

On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 1:57:05 PM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> Hey Reid, 
> Secret answer c) Buy the 64cm orange Quickbeam offered on the list in LA! 
>
> Philip
> Always causing trouble in Santa Rosa, CA
>
> On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 10:47:25 AM UTC-7, Reid Echols wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks, I'll be traveling from Austin to Los Angeles in a few short 
>> weeks for a fellowship at the Huntington Library, and am between bringing a 
>> "beater" aluminum 29er I could build up from spare parts or my trusty BMC 
>> Monstercross, currently set up as a "dinglespeed" with 43c gravel tires. I 
>> can handle most of the Austin hills pretty handily, and really enjoy riding 
>> the BMC on local singletrack (not too many rock gardens, just the faster, 
>> flowy stuff). 
>>
>> My question is, will I be able to fully enjoy the trails near LA on a 
>> singlespeed, cross-style bike, or am I displaying a bit of hubris and 
>> should just bring the more traditional mountain bike for the climbing 
>> gears? I'll be commuting to the Huntington as well and don't want anything 
>> too flashy lest it be stolen. Local perspectives would be welcome! 
>>
>> All best, 
>> Reid in Austin 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Single Speed in/around LA?

2018-04-23 Thread Philip Williamson
Hey Reid, 
Secret answer c) Buy the 64cm orange Quickbeam offered on the list in LA! 

Philip
Always causing trouble in Santa Rosa, CA

On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 10:47:25 AM UTC-7, Reid Echols wrote:
>
> Hi folks, I'll be traveling from Austin to Los Angeles in a few short 
> weeks for a fellowship at the Huntington Library, and am between bringing a 
> "beater" aluminum 29er I could build up from spare parts or my trusty BMC 
> Monstercross, currently set up as a "dinglespeed" with 43c gravel tires. I 
> can handle most of the Austin hills pretty handily, and really enjoy riding 
> the BMC on local singletrack (not too many rock gardens, just the faster, 
> flowy stuff). 
>
> My question is, will I be able to fully enjoy the trails near LA on a 
> singlespeed, cross-style bike, or am I displaying a bit of hubris and 
> should just bring the more traditional mountain bike for the climbing 
> gears? I'll be commuting to the Huntington as well and don't want anything 
> too flashy lest it be stolen. Local perspectives would be welcome! 
>
> All best, 
> Reid in Austin 
>

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[RBW] Re: Single Speed in/around LA?

2018-04-23 Thread Ed Carolipio
Hmm, I just rode through the area with the LACBC a couple of weekends ago. 
If there's any doubt, I'd recommend getting some gears. There are enough 
ups-and-downs in that area to warrant it, you're in LA in the summer so the 
weather can be Austin-like, and you're within shouting distance of Angeles 
National Forest for opportunities to do non-commute riding.

A couple of caveats: I do know folks who ride SS by choice in that area so 
it can be done, and frankly I'm a wuss with bad knees so I need at least a 
1x to get by.

--Ed C.

On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 10:47:25 AM UTC-7, Reid Echols wrote:
>
> Hi folks, I'll be traveling from Austin to Los Angeles in a few short 
> weeks for a fellowship at the Huntington Library, and am between bringing a 
> "beater" aluminum 29er I could build up from spare parts or my trusty BMC 
> Monstercross, currently set up as a "dinglespeed" with 43c gravel tires. I 
> can handle most of the Austin hills pretty handily, and really enjoy riding 
> the BMC on local singletrack (not too many rock gardens, just the faster, 
> flowy stuff). 
>
> My question is, will I be able to fully enjoy the trails near LA on a 
> singlespeed, cross-style bike, or am I displaying a bit of hubris and 
> should just bring the more traditional mountain bike for the climbing 
> gears? I'll be commuting to the Huntington as well and don't want anything 
> too flashy lest it be stolen. Local perspectives would be welcome! 
>
> All best, 
> Reid in Austin 
>

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[RBW] Re: Single Speed in/around LA?

2018-04-23 Thread Drw
If you aren't as strong and strong willed as Patrick, you'll want gears. 
All of the dirt trails here, to my experience, have very steep sections. 
The hills here don't roll, they just kind of shoot up. I do a fair amount 
of walking even with a low low gear. The other thing to note is that most 
of the trails begin 10-20 miles outside of what i would call the city. So 
if you are riding to the trails, you'll do considerable climbing before you 
even get off road. 

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