Re: [RBW] Re: Speak to me about front loading and rear loading

2015-09-04 Thread Lungimsam
Clayton. If they stop making suspension posts you could try a sprung saddle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@goo

[RBW] Re: Speak to me about front loading and rear loading

2015-09-03 Thread Garth
I say with a smile and in jest . . . . For real load haulin" get a trailer . . .. . but seeing how you love to fret , get as many bags as you can with as many pockets as possible and weigh each compartment individually as you fill them . Do a manner of checks and balances and tallies ,

[RBW] Re: Speak to me about front loading and rear loading

2015-09-03 Thread Brian Campbell
Timely thread. I recently took the Mark's rack, large Acorn handle bar bag and headlight off of my AHH. I shifted the load to as saddle mounted bag (Sackville medium), mounted the headlight on the front fender and the change has been fantastic. I feel that the bike is performing more in line wi

[RBW] Re: Speak to me about front loading and rear loading

2015-09-02 Thread dougP
"I found carrying stuff on the top of the rear rack irritating. It made getting into the panniers a pain" Same here. One solution is a rear rack with lower rails for the panniers, freeing up the platform area for independent loading & unloading, making the whole thing less of Rubik's cube. T

Re: [RBW] Re: Speak to me about front loading and rear loading

2015-09-02 Thread Liesl
Late to this thread, but I'll chime in anyway. I am a grocery-getter-biker and since I've made the switch to mostly EBDJ, my food loads are lumpy and heavy: coconut, cheese, Greek yogurt, all manner of meats, nuts, peppers, eggs, zucchini, squashes, milk, cream, coconut oilan occasional bott

Re: [RBW] Re: Speak to me about front loading and rear loading

2015-09-02 Thread Patrick Moore
Odd, the best rear load carrying bike I've owed was that 1973 Motobecane: very light, standard gauge tubing, but long stays and a very rigid Fly rack. On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 2:24 PM, EGNolan wrote: > I've found that when I changed h'bars to albas or boscoes I could carry > much more on the front

Re: [RBW] Re: Speak to me about front loading and rear loading

2015-09-02 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 09/02/2015 05:43 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: Exactly. A 12-pack is when you've already given up on lightweight and are running a Wald basket with zipties (NTTAWWT). A fine sipping whisky is much more efficient on a custom cycle with custom bespoke racks. and a Mason jar of White Lightnin

Re: [RBW] Re: Speak to me about front loading and rear loading

2015-09-02 Thread Bill Lindsay
Exactly. A 12-pack is when you've already given up on lightweight and are running a Wald basket with zipties (NTTAWWT). A fine sipping whisky is much more efficient on a custom cycle with custom bespoke racks. On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 2:34:06 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Speak to me about front loading and rear loading

2015-09-02 Thread Bill Lindsay
I'm just waiting for the day when Patrick Moore decides to fret over the real problem: the weight of groceries. Imagine how sprightly your rig would be if you could pack 40 pounds of caloric content into 25 pounds of groceries. There are certainly beverages that will deliver the punch of a 1

Re: [RBW] Re: Speak to me about front loading and rear loading

2015-09-02 Thread EGNolan
I've found that when I changed h'bars to albas or boscoes I could carry much more on the front end without affecting handling when compared to drops. Loading the rear only with all my weight back there makes the bike pretty squirrely. I've found this to be true with my Raleigh International & H

Re: [RBW] Re: Speak to me about front loading and rear loading

2015-09-02 Thread Patrick Moore
Doug: thanks for this analysis; I suppose that my Riv must have more trail than your Matchak Atlantis, so that it will be even more sensitive to front loads. And I suppose too that it simply takes a bit of getting used to front loads if one hasn't much experience with them. Clayton: What bike are

[RBW] Re: Speak to me about front loading and rear loading

2015-09-02 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
> > I found carrying stuff on the top of the rear rack irritating. It made > getting into the panniers a pain. After years of trying every kind of > setup, I found one I am happy with. I was running the typical setup, small > panniers in the front and large in the rear, with bag and tent on to

[RBW] Re: Speak to me about front loading and rear loading

2015-09-01 Thread dougP
Patrick: I've played with loading quite a bit myself and have spoken with lots of bicycle tourists. The Big Message is the number of variables is large enough that you'll have play around with it, perhaps quite a bit. Personally, Steve-at-the-bike-shop's recommendation is close to my prefere

Re: [RBW] Re: Speak to me about front loading and rear loading

2015-09-01 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, John. This confirms my suspicion and prejudice that on the '03 the fronts should be used (1) only for light (sub 20 lb for both sides) loads, and (2) for overflow from the main rear load. I will continue to experiment. Anecdote: a few years ago, when I owned a Sam Hill (56, single tt, can

[RBW] Re: Speak to me about front loading and rear loading

2015-09-01 Thread John Hawrylak
Patrick Here is the link to the Bike Touring News article, I forgot to copy it in the 1st post http://biketouringnews.com/bike-touring-tips/how-to-load-a-touring-bike/ John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Re: Speak to me about front loading and rear loading

2015-09-01 Thread Patrick Moore
John: yes, just looked up the Soma bike and it is indeed the low trail "Grand Randonneur." I wonder just how much up front on my Petersenian custom is ideal. I suppose I can always do the experimental work myself. Still, I'd like to hear from others about their front/rear divide opinions -- I know

[RBW] Re: Speak to me about front loading and rear loading

2015-09-01 Thread John Hawrylak
Patrick Is the "Soma radonneur" you refer to wrt Steve, the Grand Radonneur?? If so, it has low trial (29 mm) while the Rivs have probably 55 to 65 mm of trail. On the Soma GR, 70%of the weight in the front would make sense. Bike Touring News posted this article about loading low trail (Gill