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To paraphrase Bob Dylan..something is happening here, but we don't know what it is ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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I walked into Ye Ol' Local Cyber Cycling Shoppe and overheard a conversation of, by the tone and body language, witty banter between two blokes who usually speak English, yet I had no capacity to understand it. Talk about entertainment value! Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday,

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You're right, dstein, and Bill was playing along. (Nice work, Bill!) I've seen that movie far more times than I care to say. Bob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

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and just like Barry and Rob conclude that the hypothetical person probably will go see Evil Dead 2, you are right to suppose that I probably will buy a Hunqapillar, and for my own benefit and for the benefit of others I will quote Barry one last time: "I never thought I'd say this, but can I

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I think Bob K. is stoking the fire with some movie quotes. I had to look this one up as it sounded familiar but I couldn't place it: http://movies.stackexchange.com/questions/43954/why-does-the-film-high-fidelity-2000-call-army-of-darkness-evil-dead-2 Translation: By saying 'yet' instead of

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I'm sorry, Bob K. I'm struggling here. You're asking me what would I *think* if you told me you *hadn't* bought a bike that you *have* already bought. What am I supposed to say? On Wednesday, December 14, 2016 at 2:09:02 PM UTC-8, Bob K. wrote: > > All right. But from that one sentence, would

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All right. But from that one sentence, would you think that he was going to buy it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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Bill Lindsay: Right, all right. But let's just say that I hadn't bought it and I said to you, "I haven't bought a Hunqapillar yet", what would you think? Bob K in Balty: I'd think that you're a Hunqapillical idiot and I'd feel sorry for you. On Wednesday, December 14, 2016 at 1:56:32 PM

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Bill Lindsay wrote: I have not bought a Hunqapillar yet. > > My response: "Just c'mon. What would it mean to you--that sentence--'I haven't seen Evil Dead II yet?'" Anyone? Bob K. in Baltimore -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

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The day is not over. :-) On Wednesday, December 14, 2016 at 2:09:16 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Michael said I've bought an Atlantis and a Rosco Road and a Hunqapillar. > > I have not bought a Hunqapillar yet. > > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito Ca > > -- You received this message because you

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Michael said I've bought an Atlantis and a Rosco Road and a Hunqapillar. I have not bought a Hunqapillar yet. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

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So Bill bought 3 Rivendells (this, hunq, atlantis) within a one month span? That must be a record around here. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

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What Ted said, Bill. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

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Yes Bill, you really do NEED that Rosco with the handy lifter. I just can't imagine how it took you soo long to realize it. Good thing you woke up before its too late. Well done you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

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I think a lot of us would be surprised at how much we could use a lift-handle feature. I'm constantly hefting bikes up stairs, and have sold some simply because I got tired of carrying them. I've also developed a fondness for folders and mini velos because they're so much easier to grab and

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Maybe this will help ;>) On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 3:19:40 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > On November 10th Bill claimed unconvincingly: > > "I probably won't get the blue one even because I'm not interested in

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dstein asked if I bought a frameset or a complete I bought a frameset. I've got everything I need to do a build. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 1:29:29 PM UTC-8, dstein wrote: > > Was that one of the completes or a frame you're going to build up as a >

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Was that one of the completes or a frame you're going to build up as a singlespeed? I'm trying to talk myself out of the 53 rosco road which i want for the same reason, even though i don't bring my bike on bart all that often. But to be fair I have to navigate some tight corners and steps in my

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On November 10th Bill claimed unconvincingly: "I probably won't get the blue one even because I'm not interested in a singlespeed and there is no other useful purpose for horizontal tips in my opinion." Yeah, I went ahead and bought a Blue Rosco Bubbe 58. I want a liftabike for BART. I ride

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WOW. I love bright neon Miami Vice colors, but I think I've finally found my limit! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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That orange Roadeo has given me a fever! The only cure for that fever, is an orange Roadeo! Love that color! On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 9:52:42 PM UTC-5, ttoshi wrote: > > Outrageously awesome! > > Trying hard to be seen (and not run over!) in Oakland! > > Toshi > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at

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Outrageously awesome! Trying hard to be seen (and not run over!) in Oakland! Toshi On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 5:45 PM Will wrote: > I saw a Hilsen painted that same orange last year. The rider had stickered > 3M reflective polka dots all over it (including fenders). It

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I saw a Hilsen painted that same orange last year. The rider had stickered 3M reflective polka dots all over it (including fenders). It was outrageous. On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 3:12:25 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > On November 8, I reported: > > "While we were talking Mark carried

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I like it! On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 4:14:45 PM UTC-5, Sky Coulter wrote: > > I like orange and obviously it's the fastest color, but that shade hurts > my eyes. > > Sky in new west > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 1:12:25 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: >> >> On November 8, I reported:

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I like orange and obviously it's the fastest color, but that shade hurts my eyes. Sky in new west On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 1:12:25 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > On November 8, I reported: > > "While we were talking Mark carried in a bright bright orange Roadeo, and > told Roman to

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On November 8, I reported: "While we were talking Mark carried in a bright bright orange Roadeo, and told Roman to post it for sale. I grabbed a tape measure and confirmed my guess that it's my size (59cm). The orange is crazy bright, almost neon orange. Incredible. " I don't know when

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I went in yesterday and rode the Rosco Road, it's pretty awesome. Lightweight and sporty feeling. I've never ridden the Roadeo or any of its predecessors but I thought this was a pretty nice riding road bike and felt sportier than other road-ish bikes I've ridden (though not a scientific

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Jay expected me to be able to put into words riding differences that he sees in the geometry chart. I like this exercise. I will be the blind subject and I will not look at the two charts. What difference did you expect me to detect between the green and the blue Rosco Bubbe demo bikes? I

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Thanks. I guess I expected some differences because of the different geometries. Jay On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 6:48:47 PM UTC+2, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Jay asked for a comparison between the blue and green Bosco. > > They ride the same. Like a roadish Rivendell. It's like a Hillborne

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I've only called Riv maybe 5 times tops but each time the person I spoke to was very polite and kind. Just a good customer experience in every aspect -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

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One time I called to ask about a bike mechanical issue and the person that answered talked in a very loud and almost angry voice telling me "Don't listen to those people on forums! If you have a mechanical question call us we are the pros we deal with this every day! We know what we are

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One thing I find comforting and slightly amusing about Grant & Co. is they almost all have calm, soothing voices. I can't tell if it's picked up from Grant, or just a natural part of being the type of person who would apply to work there, but it's a signature of RBW. They have a sound. --

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Me too! I'd love to actually meet Grant and the crew in person ...considering I've been a Bobette and a Rivendell customer for 23 years now. Even on the phone, Grant, especially , is absolutely charming . Of course anyone else I've spoken to over the phone has been very friendly and helpful .

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Thanks for all that -- now I get it -- you're at least a size bigger than me and I didn't realize that your size Joe was 700c ... On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 1:18:33 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Jeff asked about why I would buy a Hunqapillar to replace an Appaloosa. > Just that it's

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Jeff asked about why I would buy a Hunqapillar to replace an Appaloosa. Just that it's MUSA, and I'd pick a color, and it would have no toe-overlap with a longer front center plus smaller diameter wheel. Any ride you can do on a Hunqapillar, you can also do on an Appaloosa, if you want to.

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Ah, ok, the Joe is too long in the TT for drops. In your eyes, what does the Hunq represent in "upgrade" highlights -- aside from maybe all those braze ons? On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 12:03:09 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Jeff asked about the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar vs my

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Jeff asked about the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar vs my Appaloosa for an upcoming California Alpine tour. I have no intention at this time running the Appaloosa for that tour. I think of the Appaloosa as an S24O bike. If I left today on that tour I would use a bike that I've never shown off

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Jay asked for a comparison between the blue and green Bosco. They ride the same. Like a roadish Rivendell. It's like a Hillborne with cantilever brakes that you could easily set up single speed. The max bar height on the green one will be higher. I'd get the blue one because I like the bars

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Bill, Do you think either of these rides -- the 650b Atlantis, the 650b Hunq -- would provide significant benefits for a two-week Sierra tour over the Joe? On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 2:11:09 AM UTC-5, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote: > > I would be very interested in hearing more of your

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I would be very interested in hearing more of your impressions about the 2 Roscos. How do they ride and how do they differ? Where would they fit on the Rodeo-Hillsen-Sam-Atlantis-Hunq continuum? TIA Jay On Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 5:19:48 AM UTC+2, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Sure. I guess

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Thanks for the information! I think the 53cm Hunqapillar on the blog is pretty close to my saddle height. I put that image up against one of my bikes with a 53.5cm seat-tube and it's pretty darn close. I've always like the Hunqapillar but had some reservations that the 650B version

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Chris The 53cm Hunqapillar was definitely the "right" size for me. There's a lot more than a fist full of seatpost showing, but with 2.4" tires, it's got a pretty tall standover itself. Without question, if I buy a Hunqapillar, 53 would be the size I'd pick. Since they have it on the floor

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I sure wish I could swing by Riv and try out some bikes. Living in Pennsylvania does have that drawback. On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 6:32:09 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Ryan is right. There is no "if". There is only 'when' and 'which'. > > When my neighbor finally succeeded in

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How was the 53cm Hunq for you? I was looking at the charts today and the 56 S.O. is right at my limit and maybe a bit more, as I get older and less flexible.My saddle height is 75cm so we are similar in size. On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 4:59:26 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > After

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Gasp! A 59cm Roadeo?!? Race you to it, Bill. On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 5:59:26 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > After voting and meeting with a contractor, I decided to take the long way > to the office and swung by RBWHHQ. I wanted to ride the 56cm 650B Atlantis > again, and possibly

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Ryan is right. There is no "if". There is only 'when' and 'which'. When my neighbor finally succeeded in stealing my 58cm 700C Atlantis and forced a stack of cash into my fist, I resisted other spending temptations by buying myself an enormous Rivendell Gift Certificate. I can't quite

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No purchase decisions were made YET On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 4:59:26 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > After voting and meeting with a contractor, I decided to take the long way > to the office and swung by RBWHHQ. I wanted to ride the 56cm 650B Atlantis > again, and possibly put a