[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-02-01 Thread Jeremy Till
Thanks everyone for the replies! I like the brainstorming around the nomenclature, as I agree that performance upright doesn't exactly lend itself to going viral. I have actually thought of trying to use roadster, since this connects the bikes I'm thinking about currently back to older

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
Comfort Sport Bike sounds like a winner to me. On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 6:37:14 AM UTC-6, Anton Tutter wrote: SS: sensible sport CS: comfort sport -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
Comfort Sport or sounds like a great category descriptor! On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 6:37:14 AM UTC-6, Anton Tutter wrote: SS: sensible sport CS: comfort sport -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Bill Lindsay
Chipotle to the restaurant world is Jeremy's category to the cycling world The category is Fast Casual -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Edwin W
Transporty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Chris Chen
hahaha Fast Casual I like it! On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote: You might say you're getting a lot of mileage out of it. On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 4:07:22 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote: Evidently, Chipotle is surprisingly versatile for many cycling

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Kieran J
Evidently, Chipotle is surprisingly versatile for many cycling analogies! KJ On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 3:50:53 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: Chipotle to the restaurant world is Jeremy's category to the cycling world The category is Fast Casual -- You received this message because

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Kieran J
You might say you're getting a lot of mileage out of it. On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 4:07:22 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote: Evidently, Chipotle is surprisingly versatile for many cycling analogies! KJ On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 3:50:53 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: Chipotle to the

RE: [RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
+1 -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lindsay Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 3:51 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright Chipotle

Re: [RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Chris Chen
We of the Upright Cyclists Brigade are mildly amused. On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:54 AM, John Phillips jphillip...@icloud.com wrote: The name needs some snappy alliteration and/or assonance like gravel grinder if it's going to stick. My vote goes for Keith's idea: Couch Rocket or maybe Retro

Re: [RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Anton Tutter
No no no... Not Sport, Transport... Mike Flanigan's ANT mantra. On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 1:00:55 PM UTC-5, stonehog wrote: Sport Transport! Brian On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 9:57:35 AM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote: We of the Upright Cyclists Brigade are mildly amused. On

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Kieran J
Promenderandonneurs (or Prandos, if you wish) KJ On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 12:54:12 PM UTC-5, John Phillips wrote: The name needs some snappy alliteration and/or assonance like gravel grinder if it's going to stick. My vote goes for Keith's idea: Couch Rocket or maybe Retro Couch

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread John Phillips
The name needs some snappy alliteration and/or assonance like gravel grinder if it's going to stick. My vote goes for Keith's idea: Couch Rocket or maybe Retro Couch Rocket. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Kieran J
Promenaderrandonneurs (or, 'Prandos' if you wish). KJ On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 2:57:42 PM UTC-5, Jeremy Till wrote: Some musings and hopefully the first of a few posts on the subject: http://handlebarchronicles.blogspot.com/2015/01/high-performance-upright-towards-new.html

Re: [RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread stonehog
Sport Transport! Brian On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 9:57:35 AM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote: We of the Upright Cyclists Brigade are mildly amused. On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:54 AM, John Phillips jphil...@icloud.com javascript: wrote: The name needs some snappy alliteration and/or

RE: [RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
: Towards a new category: high performance upright No no no... Not Sport, Transport... Mike Flanigan's ANT mantra. On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 1:00:55 PM UTC-5, stonehog wrote: Sport Transport! Brian On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 9:57:35 AM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote: We of the Upright

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
This morning I was thinking about bikes while in the shower and Casual Sport popped into my mind. It's still a bit of an oxymoron but it rolls off the tongue quite easily and has some continuity with the Sport Tourer category of years gone by. Hopefully I didn't unconsciously pick that up

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Bob E
I was going to suggest Sport Roadster, but then saw that Linus has a similar sounding Roadster Sport. http://www.linusbike.com/products/roadster-sport?variant=100522862 On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 7:37:14 AM UTC-5, Anton Tutter wrote: SS: sensible sport CS: comfort sport -- You

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Anton Tutter
SS: sensible sport CS: comfort sport -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-29 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I've never been able to figure out how to easily navigate Flickr so can you provide a link to your gallery? On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 1:57:42 PM UTC-6, Jeremy Till wrote: Some musings and hopefully the first of a few posts on the subject:

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-29 Thread dougP
I'd say they are upright bars since they're essentially flat, maybe a slight rise (or drop) in some. A gray area would be Woodchippers, etc. Semi-drop? dougP On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 7:44:29 AM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote: Would the mustache and albastache bars be considered an

Re: [RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-29 Thread Jim Bronson
Chris Lampe: scroll down the page under the picture, you'll see the groups and galleries that the photo is a member of. I took a screenshot, see attached. Look for blue arrow. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:22 AM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: I've

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-29 Thread iamkeith
On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 7:11:35 AM UTC-7, blakcloud wrote: My final thought is the name of these bikes. The convention is using just two words to describe bikes, road bike, mountain bike, kids bike, racing bike, downhill bike etc. High Performance Upright Bikes certainly is a

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-29 Thread blakcloud
Jeremy, this was a timely thread for me. I was thinking this week, outside of this group, there really isn't a place for me to read about bicycles that I like, which are the bikes you are describing. I am looking forward to the Flickr Group and more photos to peruse over. Dropped bar bikes

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-29 Thread Ron Mc
wonderful bikes, all, but I was particularly impressed with the Clem setup. On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 1:57:42 PM UTC-6, Jeremy Till wrote: Some musings and hopefully the first of a few posts on the subject:

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-29 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I would argue that upright refers to the riding position of the person on the bike, rather than the type of handlebars. If drop bars are way high and result in a relatively upright riding position, it's an upright bike in my eyes. I ride MTB bars exclusively with anywhere from 24mm to 60mm

Re: [RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-29 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thanks! Right after I posted my question I figured out that the OP had imbedded the gallery on his blog and that simply clicking the photo of the bike would scroll thru the images. Now I have a guideline for the Flickr website itself! On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 12:22:12 PM UTC-6,

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-29 Thread Trenker
Sounds similar to the Sport Minivan. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-29 Thread Doug Williams
Yes, the word Sport might be a good starting point. We have had Sport Touring bikes. I don't think I like Sport Upright...is Upright Sport any better? I don't like Sport Townie or Sport Dutch. I don't want to use racer in the name and I don't know what a Sport Racer would be anyway. That

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-29 Thread Anton Tutter
I refer to my bikes with non road bars as 'semi-uprights'. Anton, whose back is at about a 50-55 degree angle when riding with non-drop bars. On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 1:40:05 PM UTC-5, iamkeith wrote: On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 7:11:35 AM UTC-7, blakcloud wrote: My final

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-29 Thread iamkeith
You're on to something. Gosh, why not just call them sportster bikes. As in: vehicles that combine capable handling with all-day comfort and good looks, as opposed to singularly focused, race-oriented, muscle-machines. Examples of actual sportsters from other disciplines:

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-29 Thread Doug Williams
Sportster bike...It would probably get shortened to Sportster. Hmmm...that might work. Especially for the Waterford frames made in Wisconsin (birthplace of the Harley Davidson Sportster). I have a 650b Homer (with Albas) on order and we all know that the 650b Homer is just a Saluki with a

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-29 Thread Doug Williams
Ok, now that I did some checking, I found such a bike on the REI website. Called the Scott Sportster 50 Bike – 2015. The easy-riding Scott Sportster 50 bike offers a comfortable upright riding position and speedy, smooth-rolling wheels for mellow commutes, riding around town or cruising

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-29 Thread Surlyprof
Would truncating it to Performance Uprights aid the evangelizing? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-29 Thread Scott Wolfe
comfortable is always fast in the long run. good thoughts. enjoy. scott bend, or On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 11:57:42 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Till wrote: Some musings and hopefully the first of a few posts on the subject:

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-29 Thread twin
I feel like my Handsome Devil is close to what you are thinking and I may either have. 650B or 700c frame made by a local builder with this concept in mind. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-28 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I've always considered this to be a better bike than a road bike or a mountain bike for most people. My first adult bike was a 1995 Trek Multitrack but I had it set in a way that meets your definition. Right now, I'm riding a larger size version of that same bike. My newest bike that I will

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-28 Thread WETH
Jeremy, I enjoyed reading the post and looking at the Flickr gallery. Your experience with and feelings toward the upright bars mirrors mine. I look forward to reading your future posts on this topic. Thanks, Erl On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 3:51:20 PM UTC-5, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: I've

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-28 Thread Kieran J
I'm also on board with this perspective. Personally, I think I was hung up on drop bars, thinking that they were the apparent default road bars because it had been determined they were versatile, comfortable and just the best for serious cycling. I assumed that I just needed to dial things in

[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-28 Thread Will
This style goes back a long way. In 1976 I bought a Raleigh Super Tourer DL135. It was essentially their Competition, reduced to 5 speed with North Road bars. Otherwise... had everything the Comp had: 531 DB frame with side tack seat stays, chromed fork blades and chain stays, TA crank, Huret