[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

2012-01-05 Thread TSW
We were thinking of doing that- but Seaview is wicked steep at the
very beginning- probably'd have to walk our bikes.  Once one the ridge
it's nice- short.

http://g.co/maps/nbgdy

I love this multi-trail thing: what a great way to get out of traffic,
into nature, but still feel fast and smooth once on the asphalt.

Tse-Sung

On Jan 4, 4:15 pm, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:
 When I lived in Berkeley, my favorite mixed-terrain route was to take
 the seaview trail from Inspiration Point up to Grizzly Peak. The
 on-road parts of the ride varied, but it was typical to go up Spruce
 and come down Claremont or Tunnel. No Rivendells back then, so I did
 it on a 700c hybrid Miyata.

 Horace.







 On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:51 AM, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yes- my first 'country bike' ride.  It started out pretty downhill,
  then rolling hills.  Must do again, or try variants; head further
  east, or the Marin headlands, etc.  It's nice to be cruising along in
  the wilderness, no car traffic.

  Tse-Sung

  On Jan 2, 5:07 pm, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'll have to try this ride sometime... seems like a lot of fun!

  René

  On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:54 AM, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote:
   hi all,
   Sorry if this has been discussed already- is there a place where
   people have posted or can post trail recommendations?  Could be a
   thread here... or a Google spreadsheet perhaps?  I know there must be
   online resources... I was thinking something that's a bit more Riv-
   ish- country biking and all that- a mix of road and not terribly
   technical off-road.

   TIA,
   Tse-Sung
   Berkeley

   ps- yesterday, in our neck o' the woods, I started at Inspiration
   Point in Tilden and took a trail down into Wildcat Canyon, then took
   the Wildcat Creek trail all the way to the Alvarado Staging Area in El
   Sobrante.  A really nice ride.  Met some very nice dogs too :-)

   More:

  http://g.co/maps/dq3c7

   Hit the 3D button on the left, to fly it.

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[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

2012-01-04 Thread Philip Williamson
I like that by posting links here, we can use any mapping site we
like, which seems 5x as inclusive.
A short description of length, difficulty, and location, along with
the link is probably useful for long-term searchability. City, County/
Parish, state, length, road surface ('mixed terrain'), and features
like ocean or mountains might be good keywords to include. If
they're posted to this thread, database would filter for it, since
that's not a word I see on the list very often.

 Philip

Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com


On Jan 3, 5:25 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote:
 Strava is tied to GPS recording, and seems a little too oriented to
 look how fast I did this climb for my taste.  The home page says
 Track your progress and compete against friends.  Not really the
 attitude I expect prevails around this list.  I don't need to share my
 watt output with the world to share a nice bike route.

 Bikely or Map My Ride might work better for route sharing and
 searching without a competitive attitude.  Both have some tagging
 capability, but mixed terrain'' doesn't seem to be a category either
 has caught on to.

 Gmap-pedometer is a pretty basic tool that allows you to build and
 save routes in Google maps without logins or memberships.  The route
 names are strictly numeric as far as I can tell, which makes searching
 them difficult, but they can be shared publicly.  Here's one (paved)
 route I created as an example:

 http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=3765211

 Bill

 On Jan 3, 8:44 am, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote:







  Yes, I've never figured out how to save routes the way one could in
  Yahoo Maps.

  But this is quite cool: you use its smartphone app or a GPS, and it
  maps your route, which you can post, share, etc.

 http://www.strava.com/rides/my-revenge-x2-at-montezuma-grade-2856587

  Notice that you can get avg speed in various segments.  I'm guessing
  they're crowd-sourced named.

  Searching isn't great, it seems.  I wonder if it'd be possible to
  create a public Riv-ish collection of routes.

  Tse-Sung
  Berkeley

  On Jan 3, 12:26 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com
  wrote:

   I made a map, added the phrase Rivendell Friendly to it, and tried
   to find it, both in GMaps, and in GGoogle. There doesn't seem to be
   any searchability in personal maps, even if they're public. Ideally, I
   could zoom in on Orange County, type Rivendell Ride in the maps
   search and find five or six mapped rides, but I can't. I imagine
   that's on the agenda for Google, someday, but not today.

   I agree with Tse-Tsung that a database of Rivendell rides would be
   dynamite. I like easy, I like central, so I'd vote for a thread here.

   Here's a test map for a route I saved: a mixed terrain ride from
   McMinnville, Oregon to the Flying M ranch, where bike events are
   sometimes held.

   So: link, description, location-specific 
   keywords.http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=208780260535319597769.0004b57dbfa...
   Bicycle route from Tommy's Bike Shop in McMinnville to the Flying M
   Ranch in Yamhill. Mixed Terrain, Rivendell friendly Willamette Valley
   ride. Lots of gravel, some climbing. Staying off of Westside Road,
   because there's no shoulder, low visibility, and the hay trucks go
   70mph.
   McMinnville, Carlton, Yamhill, Oregon, 97128, Southwest of Portland,
   OR.

    Philip

   Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com

   On Jan 2, 2:04 pm, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com
   wrote:

I used Bikely a few years ago, but now I've mostly plotted things out
in Google Maps, usually after the ride. My MO is to set out, get lost,
get found, and have a good time.

I just tagged a Google map I made yesterday (in 97128 zip) as
Rivendell friendly, but I can't see how to search public maps. It
may just take a while to propagate. If it works, we can simply make
our maps, tag them consistently, and done. Ideally, you can go to
Carlton OR on Google Maps and search for 'rivendell.' It's a mixed-
terrain route from the McMinnville bike shop to the Flying M ranch (I
want to attend a bike thing there in May).
 Philip
Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com

On Jan 2, 10:54 am, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi all,
 Sorry if this has been discussed already- is there a place where
 people have posted or can post trail recommendations?  Could be a
 thread here... or a Google spreadsheet perhaps?  I know there must be
 online resources... I was thinking something that's a bit more Riv-
 ish- country biking and all that- a mix of road and not terribly
 technical off-road.

 TIA,
 Tse-Sung
 Berkeley

 ps- yesterday, in our neck o' the woods, I started at Inspiration
 Point in Tilden and took a trail down into Wildcat Canyon, then took
 the Wildcat Creek trail all the way to the Alvarado Staging Area in El
 Sobrante.  A really nice ride.  Met some very nice dogs too :-)

[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

2012-01-04 Thread TSW
That might work- use searchable terms in the body of the post, and
something descriptive and easy to sort in the Subject line:

Subject: Trail Database: [location, state, approx mileage]

e.g.,

Subject: Trail Database: Berkeley, CA, 12 miles

Then a fuller description and links in the body.

BTW, one of our local clubs uses this shorthand for describe rides:

http://www.grizzlypeakcyclists.org/rides/current.html

Cheers,
ts
berkeley


On Jan 4, 12:47 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I like that by posting links here, we can use any mapping site we
 like, which seems 5x as inclusive.
 A short description of length, difficulty, and location, along with
 the link is probably useful for long-term searchability. City, County/
 Parish, state, length, road surface ('mixed terrain'), and features
 like ocean or mountains might be good keywords to include. If
 they're posted to this thread, database would filter for it, since
 that's not a word I see on the list very often.

  Philip

 Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com

 On Jan 3, 5:25 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote:







  Strava is tied to GPS recording, and seems a little too oriented to
  look how fast I did this climb for my taste.  The home page says
  Track your progress and compete against friends.  Not really the
  attitude I expect prevails around this list.  I don't need to share my
  watt output with the world to share a nice bike route.

  Bikely or Map My Ride might work better for route sharing and
  searching without a competitive attitude.  Both have some tagging
  capability, but mixed terrain'' doesn't seem to be a category either
  has caught on to.

  Gmap-pedometer is a pretty basic tool that allows you to build and
  save routes in Google maps without logins or memberships.  The route
  names are strictly numeric as far as I can tell, which makes searching
  them difficult, but they can be shared publicly.  Here's one (paved)
  route I created as an example:

 http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=3765211

  Bill

  On Jan 3, 8:44 am, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote:

   Yes, I've never figured out how to save routes the way one could in
   Yahoo Maps.

   But this is quite cool: you use its smartphone app or a GPS, and it
   maps your route, which you can post, share, etc.

  http://www.strava.com/rides/my-revenge-x2-at-montezuma-grade-2856587

   Notice that you can get avg speed in various segments.  I'm guessing
   they're crowd-sourced named.

   Searching isn't great, it seems.  I wonder if it'd be possible to
   create a public Riv-ish collection of routes.

   Tse-Sung
   Berkeley

   On Jan 3, 12:26 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com
   wrote:

I made a map, added the phrase Rivendell Friendly to it, and tried
to find it, both in GMaps, and in GGoogle. There doesn't seem to be
any searchability in personal maps, even if they're public. Ideally, I
could zoom in on Orange County, type Rivendell Ride in the maps
search and find five or six mapped rides, but I can't. I imagine
that's on the agenda for Google, someday, but not today.

I agree with Tse-Tsung that a database of Rivendell rides would be
dynamite. I like easy, I like central, so I'd vote for a thread here.

Here's a test map for a route I saved: a mixed terrain ride from
McMinnville, Oregon to the Flying M ranch, where bike events are
sometimes held.

So: link, description, location-specific 
keywords.http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=208780260535319597769.0004b57dbfa...
Bicycle route from Tommy's Bike Shop in McMinnville to the Flying M
Ranch in Yamhill. Mixed Terrain, Rivendell friendly Willamette Valley
ride. Lots of gravel, some climbing. Staying off of Westside Road,
because there's no shoulder, low visibility, and the hay trucks go
70mph.
McMinnville, Carlton, Yamhill, Oregon, 97128, Southwest of Portland,
OR.

 Philip

Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com

On Jan 2, 2:04 pm, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I used Bikely a few years ago, but now I've mostly plotted things out
 in Google Maps, usually after the ride. My MO is to set out, get lost,
 get found, and have a good time.

 I just tagged a Google map I made yesterday (in 97128 zip) as
 Rivendell friendly, but I can't see how to search public maps. It
 may just take a while to propagate. If it works, we can simply make
 our maps, tag them consistently, and done. Ideally, you can go to
 Carlton OR on Google Maps and search for 'rivendell.' It's a mixed-
 terrain route from the McMinnville bike shop to the Flying M ranch (I
 want to attend a bike thing there in May).
  Philip
 Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com

 On Jan 2, 10:54 am, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote:

  hi all,
  Sorry if this has been discussed already- is there a place where
  people have posted or can post trail 

Re: [RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

2012-01-04 Thread Horace
When I lived in Berkeley, my favorite mixed-terrain route was to take
the seaview trail from Inspiration Point up to Grizzly Peak. The
on-road parts of the ride varied, but it was typical to go up Spruce
and come down Claremont or Tunnel. No Rivendells back then, so I did
it on a 700c hybrid Miyata.

Horace.

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:51 AM, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes- my first 'country bike' ride.  It started out pretty downhill,
 then rolling hills.  Must do again, or try variants; head further
 east, or the Marin headlands, etc.  It's nice to be cruising along in
 the wilderness, no car traffic.

 Tse-Sung

 On Jan 2, 5:07 pm, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'll have to try this ride sometime... seems like a lot of fun!

 René







 On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:54 AM, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote:
  hi all,
  Sorry if this has been discussed already- is there a place where
  people have posted or can post trail recommendations?  Could be a
  thread here... or a Google spreadsheet perhaps?  I know there must be
  online resources... I was thinking something that's a bit more Riv-
  ish- country biking and all that- a mix of road and not terribly
  technical off-road.

  TIA,
  Tse-Sung
  Berkeley

  ps- yesterday, in our neck o' the woods, I started at Inspiration
  Point in Tilden and took a trail down into Wildcat Canyon, then took
  the Wildcat Creek trail all the way to the Alvarado Staging Area in El
  Sobrante.  A really nice ride.  Met some very nice dogs too :-)

  More:

 http://g.co/maps/dq3c7

  Hit the 3D button on the left, to fly it.

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[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

2012-01-03 Thread Philip Williamson
I made a map, added the phrase Rivendell Friendly to it, and tried
to find it, both in GMaps, and in GGoogle. There doesn't seem to be
any searchability in personal maps, even if they're public. Ideally, I
could zoom in on Orange County, type Rivendell Ride in the maps
search and find five or six mapped rides, but I can't. I imagine
that's on the agenda for Google, someday, but not today.

I agree with Tse-Tsung that a database of Rivendell rides would be
dynamite. I like easy, I like central, so I'd vote for a thread here.

Here's a test map for a route I saved: a mixed terrain ride from
McMinnville, Oregon to the Flying M ranch, where bike events are
sometimes held.

So: link, description, location-specific keywords.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=208780260535319597769.0004b57dbfa8652517590msa=0
Bicycle route from Tommy's Bike Shop in McMinnville to the Flying M
Ranch in Yamhill. Mixed Terrain, Rivendell friendly Willamette Valley
ride. Lots of gravel, some climbing. Staying off of Westside Road,
because there's no shoulder, low visibility, and the hay trucks go
70mph.
McMinnville, Carlton, Yamhill, Oregon, 97128, Southwest of Portland,
OR.

 Philip

Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com

On Jan 2, 2:04 pm, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I used Bikely a few years ago, but now I've mostly plotted things out
 in Google Maps, usually after the ride. My MO is to set out, get lost,
 get found, and have a good time.

 I just tagged a Google map I made yesterday (in 97128 zip) as
 Rivendell friendly, but I can't see how to search public maps. It
 may just take a while to propagate. If it works, we can simply make
 our maps, tag them consistently, and done. Ideally, you can go to
 Carlton OR on Google Maps and search for 'rivendell.' It's a mixed-
 terrain route from the McMinnville bike shop to the Flying M ranch (I
 want to attend a bike thing there in May).
  Philip
 Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com

 On Jan 2, 10:54 am, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote:







  hi all,
  Sorry if this has been discussed already- is there a place where
  people have posted or can post trail recommendations?  Could be a
  thread here... or a Google spreadsheet perhaps?  I know there must be
  online resources... I was thinking something that's a bit more Riv-
  ish- country biking and all that- a mix of road and not terribly
  technical off-road.

  TIA,
  Tse-Sung
  Berkeley

  ps- yesterday, in our neck o' the woods, I started at Inspiration
  Point in Tilden and took a trail down into Wildcat Canyon, then took
  the Wildcat Creek trail all the way to the Alvarado Staging Area in El
  Sobrante.  A really nice ride.  Met some very nice dogs too :-)

  More:

 http://g.co/maps/dq3c7

  Hit the 3D button on the left, to fly it.

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[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

2012-01-03 Thread TSW
Yes- my first 'country bike' ride.  It started out pretty downhill,
then rolling hills.  Must do again, or try variants; head further
east, or the Marin headlands, etc.  It's nice to be cruising along in
the wilderness, no car traffic.

Tse-Sung

On Jan 2, 5:07 pm, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'll have to try this ride sometime... seems like a lot of fun!

 René







 On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:54 AM, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote:
  hi all,
  Sorry if this has been discussed already- is there a place where
  people have posted or can post trail recommendations?  Could be a
  thread here... or a Google spreadsheet perhaps?  I know there must be
  online resources... I was thinking something that's a bit more Riv-
  ish- country biking and all that- a mix of road and not terribly
  technical off-road.

  TIA,
  Tse-Sung
  Berkeley

  ps- yesterday, in our neck o' the woods, I started at Inspiration
  Point in Tilden and took a trail down into Wildcat Canyon, then took
  the Wildcat Creek trail all the way to the Alvarado Staging Area in El
  Sobrante.  A really nice ride.  Met some very nice dogs too :-)

  More:

 http://g.co/maps/dq3c7

  Hit the 3D button on the left, to fly it.

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[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

2012-01-03 Thread TSW
Yes, I've never figured out how to save routes the way one could in
Yahoo Maps.

But this is quite cool: you use its smartphone app or a GPS, and it
maps your route, which you can post, share, etc.

http://www.strava.com/rides/my-revenge-x2-at-montezuma-grade-2856587

Notice that you can get avg speed in various segments.  I'm guessing
they're crowd-sourced named.

Searching isn't great, it seems.  I wonder if it'd be possible to
create a public Riv-ish collection of routes.

Tse-Sung
Berkeley

On Jan 3, 12:26 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I made a map, added the phrase Rivendell Friendly to it, and tried
 to find it, both in GMaps, and in GGoogle. There doesn't seem to be
 any searchability in personal maps, even if they're public. Ideally, I
 could zoom in on Orange County, type Rivendell Ride in the maps
 search and find five or six mapped rides, but I can't. I imagine
 that's on the agenda for Google, someday, but not today.

 I agree with Tse-Tsung that a database of Rivendell rides would be
 dynamite. I like easy, I like central, so I'd vote for a thread here.

 Here's a test map for a route I saved: a mixed terrain ride from
 McMinnville, Oregon to the Flying M ranch, where bike events are
 sometimes held.

 So: link, description, location-specific 
 keywords.http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=208780260535319597769.0004b57dbfa...
 Bicycle route from Tommy's Bike Shop in McMinnville to the Flying M
 Ranch in Yamhill. Mixed Terrain, Rivendell friendly Willamette Valley
 ride. Lots of gravel, some climbing. Staying off of Westside Road,
 because there's no shoulder, low visibility, and the hay trucks go
 70mph.
 McMinnville, Carlton, Yamhill, Oregon, 97128, Southwest of Portland,
 OR.

  Philip

 Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com

 On Jan 2, 2:04 pm, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com
 wrote:







  I used Bikely a few years ago, but now I've mostly plotted things out
  in Google Maps, usually after the ride. My MO is to set out, get lost,
  get found, and have a good time.

  I just tagged a Google map I made yesterday (in 97128 zip) as
  Rivendell friendly, but I can't see how to search public maps. It
  may just take a while to propagate. If it works, we can simply make
  our maps, tag them consistently, and done. Ideally, you can go to
  Carlton OR on Google Maps and search for 'rivendell.' It's a mixed-
  terrain route from the McMinnville bike shop to the Flying M ranch (I
  want to attend a bike thing there in May).
   Philip
  Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com

  On Jan 2, 10:54 am, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote:

   hi all,
   Sorry if this has been discussed already- is there a place where
   people have posted or can post trail recommendations?  Could be a
   thread here... or a Google spreadsheet perhaps?  I know there must be
   online resources... I was thinking something that's a bit more Riv-
   ish- country biking and all that- a mix of road and not terribly
   technical off-road.

   TIA,
   Tse-Sung
   Berkeley

   ps- yesterday, in our neck o' the woods, I started at Inspiration
   Point in Tilden and took a trail down into Wildcat Canyon, then took
   the Wildcat Creek trail all the way to the Alvarado Staging Area in El
   Sobrante.  A really nice ride.  Met some very nice dogs too :-)

   More:

  http://g.co/maps/dq3c7

   Hit the 3D button on the left, to fly it.

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[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

2012-01-03 Thread Bill M.
Strava is tied to GPS recording, and seems a little too oriented to
look how fast I did this climb for my taste.  The home page says
Track your progress and compete against friends.  Not really the
attitude I expect prevails around this list.  I don't need to share my
watt output with the world to share a nice bike route.

Bikely or Map My Ride might work better for route sharing and
searching without a competitive attitude.  Both have some tagging
capability, but mixed terrain'' doesn't seem to be a category either
has caught on to.

Gmap-pedometer is a pretty basic tool that allows you to build and
save routes in Google maps without logins or memberships.  The route
names are strictly numeric as far as I can tell, which makes searching
them difficult, but they can be shared publicly.  Here's one (paved)
route I created as an example:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=3765211

Bill

On Jan 3, 8:44 am, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I've never figured out how to save routes the way one could in
 Yahoo Maps.

 But this is quite cool: you use its smartphone app or a GPS, and it
 maps your route, which you can post, share, etc.

 http://www.strava.com/rides/my-revenge-x2-at-montezuma-grade-2856587

 Notice that you can get avg speed in various segments.  I'm guessing
 they're crowd-sourced named.

 Searching isn't great, it seems.  I wonder if it'd be possible to
 create a public Riv-ish collection of routes.

 Tse-Sung
 Berkeley

 On Jan 3, 12:26 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com
 wrote:







  I made a map, added the phrase Rivendell Friendly to it, and tried
  to find it, both in GMaps, and in GGoogle. There doesn't seem to be
  any searchability in personal maps, even if they're public. Ideally, I
  could zoom in on Orange County, type Rivendell Ride in the maps
  search and find five or six mapped rides, but I can't. I imagine
  that's on the agenda for Google, someday, but not today.

  I agree with Tse-Tsung that a database of Rivendell rides would be
  dynamite. I like easy, I like central, so I'd vote for a thread here.

  Here's a test map for a route I saved: a mixed terrain ride from
  McMinnville, Oregon to the Flying M ranch, where bike events are
  sometimes held.

  So: link, description, location-specific 
  keywords.http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=208780260535319597769.0004b57dbfa...
  Bicycle route from Tommy's Bike Shop in McMinnville to the Flying M
  Ranch in Yamhill. Mixed Terrain, Rivendell friendly Willamette Valley
  ride. Lots of gravel, some climbing. Staying off of Westside Road,
  because there's no shoulder, low visibility, and the hay trucks go
  70mph.
  McMinnville, Carlton, Yamhill, Oregon, 97128, Southwest of Portland,
  OR.

   Philip

  Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com

  On Jan 2, 2:04 pm, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com
  wrote:

   I used Bikely a few years ago, but now I've mostly plotted things out
   in Google Maps, usually after the ride. My MO is to set out, get lost,
   get found, and have a good time.

   I just tagged a Google map I made yesterday (in 97128 zip) as
   Rivendell friendly, but I can't see how to search public maps. It
   may just take a while to propagate. If it works, we can simply make
   our maps, tag them consistently, and done. Ideally, you can go to
   Carlton OR on Google Maps and search for 'rivendell.' It's a mixed-
   terrain route from the McMinnville bike shop to the Flying M ranch (I
   want to attend a bike thing there in May).
    Philip
   Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com

   On Jan 2, 10:54 am, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote:

hi all,
Sorry if this has been discussed already- is there a place where
people have posted or can post trail recommendations?  Could be a
thread here... or a Google spreadsheet perhaps?  I know there must be
online resources... I was thinking something that's a bit more Riv-
ish- country biking and all that- a mix of road and not terribly
technical off-road.

TIA,
Tse-Sung
Berkeley

ps- yesterday, in our neck o' the woods, I started at Inspiration
Point in Tilden and took a trail down into Wildcat Canyon, then took
the Wildcat Creek trail all the way to the Alvarado Staging Area in El
Sobrante.  A really nice ride.  Met some very nice dogs too :-)

More:

   http://g.co/maps/dq3c7

Hit the 3D button on the left, to fly it.

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[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

2012-01-02 Thread Way Rebb
I have something called 511 bike mapper in my links list:

http://511contracosta.org/bike/#

I've used it to find rides but never set them up.

Regards,
Ray

On Jan 2, 10:54 am, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi all,
 Sorry if this has been discussed already- is there a place where
 people have posted or can post trail recommendations?  Could be a
 thread here... or a Google spreadsheet perhaps?  I know there must be
 online resources... I was thinking something that's a bit more Riv-
 ish- country biking and all that- a mix of road and not terribly
 technical off-road.

 TIA,
 Tse-Sung
 Berkeley

 ps- yesterday, in our neck o' the woods, I started at Inspiration
 Point in Tilden and took a trail down into Wildcat Canyon, then took
 the Wildcat Creek trail all the way to the Alvarado Staging Area in El
 Sobrante.  A really nice ride.  Met some very nice dogs too :-)

 More:

 http://g.co/maps/dq3c7

 Hit the 3D button on the left, to fly it.

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[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

2012-01-02 Thread Philip Williamson
I used Bikely a few years ago, but now I've mostly plotted things out
in Google Maps, usually after the ride. My MO is to set out, get lost,
get found, and have a good time.

I just tagged a Google map I made yesterday (in 97128 zip) as
Rivendell friendly, but I can't see how to search public maps. It
may just take a while to propagate. If it works, we can simply make
our maps, tag them consistently, and done. Ideally, you can go to
Carlton OR on Google Maps and search for 'rivendell.' It's a mixed-
terrain route from the McMinnville bike shop to the Flying M ranch (I
want to attend a bike thing there in May).
 Philip
Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com

On Jan 2, 10:54 am, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi all,
 Sorry if this has been discussed already- is there a place where
 people have posted or can post trail recommendations?  Could be a
 thread here... or a Google spreadsheet perhaps?  I know there must be
 online resources... I was thinking something that's a bit more Riv-
 ish- country biking and all that- a mix of road and not terribly
 technical off-road.

 TIA,
 Tse-Sung
 Berkeley

 ps- yesterday, in our neck o' the woods, I started at Inspiration
 Point in Tilden and took a trail down into Wildcat Canyon, then took
 the Wildcat Creek trail all the way to the Alvarado Staging Area in El
 Sobrante.  A really nice ride.  Met some very nice dogs too :-)

 More:

 http://g.co/maps/dq3c7

 Hit the 3D button on the left, to fly it.

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[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?

2012-01-02 Thread Smitty-A-Go-Go
I too am on the hunt for new places to ride but I've found more locally 
oriented sources to be the most helpful. This list is too geographically 
spread out. I'd suggest you get a local map and dive into google. I've 
found lots of great ride reports and useful info this way. Now all I gotta 
do is free up the next 35 weekends so I can go explore them all. 

Good luck on the hunt.

--Smitty

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