[RBW] Re: Trigger shifters on swept-back bars - Jones or others

2017-10-25 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
Melanie, I found with swept bars, it's best to rotate the trigger shift lever up, so the throw is about 45 degrees downward. (If looking at the end of the bar, rotate the shifter clockwise so the paddle is higher. It's easier to shift this way for me, and I have carpal tunnel and I am ulnar

[RBW] Re: Trigger shifters on swept-back bars - Jones or others

2017-10-24 Thread Scott McLain
I would stick to 9-speed and go with these shifters for an upright bar w/o bar ends. MicroShift Flat Bar Double/Triple 9 speed Thumb Shifters https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CJXMFK4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_wC87zbK9C5E8A I would go with 9-speed to avoid snags with road versus mountain components not

[RBW] Re: Trigger shifters on swept-back bars - Jones or others

2017-10-24 Thread Marc40a
On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 10:51:43 AM UTC-4, Melanie wrote: > > Has anyone found a trigger shifter that works well with swept-back bars? > I may have to install bar ends or go the oddly mounted thumb shifter > route. But triggers near the brake levers would be ideal. Thanks. > Melanie

[RBW] Re: Trigger shifters on swept-back bars - Jones or others

2017-10-24 Thread Clayton.sf
They just slide around the bend, similar to how a quill stem slides around bend. They are regular XT and Saint shifters and DON'T have a hinged clamp. but are easy to get around. Clayton Scott SF, CA On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 1:33:01 AM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote: > > Clayton, how did you

[RBW] Re: Trigger shifters on swept-back bars - Jones or others

2017-10-23 Thread Ed Carolipio
I've used Deore 3x9 shifters on a 710 Jones Loop and a Bosco, and it works well for both. I found the best position for shifters on the Jones is pretty darn close to the loop. A superlong grip (like the ESI Chunky, which they sell) or just bar tape gives a myriad of hand positions across the

[RBW] Re: Trigger shifters on swept-back bars - Jones or others

2017-10-23 Thread Clayton.sf
Use triggers on Jones bars for both the dropper post and the 11 speed shifter (integrated via i-spec with the brake lever). Trigger on Choco- and Bosco-mooses too. They work great and there is enough real estate on the bars to make them not get in the way. On the Choco I ran the shifter right

[RBW] Re: Trigger shifters on swept-back bars - Jones or others

2017-10-23 Thread Jim M.
I use XT 9-speed triggers on bullmoose bars. Works well, imho. jim m walnut creek, ca On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 7:51:43 AM UTC-7, Melanie wrote: > > Has anyone found a trigger shifter that works well with swept-back bars? > I may have to install bar ends or go the oddly mounted thumb

[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-08-08 Thread ed k
Project Trigger Finger Betty well underway. All new 9 speed drivetrain including black trigger shifters. Here is how the concept looks in execution. https://goo.gl/photos/QcucVPkmVMLs4nfx7 https://goo.gl/photos/jhjL317CtrLAHoQB8 I am telling myself the black trigger shifters give the bike a

[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-08-08 Thread ted
Perhaps some frame matching paint could help? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-08-03 Thread ed k
I like these and I might use them on my bike. But it looks like it would use opposing muscle groups. Her balance wiring is marginal. I think it's going to be triggers. Ed K On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 8:49:25 PM UTC-4, ted wrote: Regarding shifter alternatives, I suggest you consider

[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-08-03 Thread ed k
Agreed - it's back to the 9-speed stone age for me. A reasonably-priced Riv drivetrain is what I should have insisted on. That's my next step, along with your suggestion of older 9-speed shifters. I think that will set her up. It won't be shiny 105 components but it will work well. Thanks

[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-08-02 Thread ed k
I was excited to see this thread because I was planning to do this to my wife's Betty. So I pulled the trigger (ha) and bought a set of Albatross bars from Riv and Shimano SL-T670 shifters from Nashbar. Went to set it up this morning. The bike has 105 derailers and a 10-speed cassette. The

Re: [RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-08-02 Thread Jim Bronson
Some Walmarts have KMC 9 speed chains re-branded as Bell and they cost not much more than on eBay, $14 at my Walmart. I've never bought one but I made a mental note in case I ever found myself needing one. On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 9:39 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: Proprietary

Re: [RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-08-02 Thread Jim Bronson
I've used 10 speed chains before on 9 speed drivetrains, worked fine. On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 10:16 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Nine speed is specially sized. Not the company, the size. Chains from five to eight speed are interchangeable. At nine you need a

Re: [RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-08-02 Thread Jim Bronson
Microsoft makes Dynasys compatible bar-ends, if you want to take that post the other direction, e.g., have a Dynasys-spec MTB rear derailer and don't want to use trigger shifters. On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 2:14 PM, iamkeith keithhar...@gmail.com wrote: Sorr y for short reply - on smart phone at

[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-08-02 Thread ed k
Thanks everybody for dragging me into 2010 when Dynasys became the cool thing. Somehow I managed to miss all of that, probably out riding my bike. It certainly is not mentioned in the adverts for shifters. Let me take a step back and ask some advice: this is being driven by my wife's

[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-08-02 Thread iamkeith
Sorr y for short reply - on smart phone at moment, but can expand later if necessary. Shimano changed derailleur movement ratio for mountain groups only with advent of 10 speed. They call it dynasys. All previous derailleurs with exception of older dura ace were 1.67:1 (often cited as

[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-08-02 Thread Jeremy Till
This-- 10 spd Shimano Road does not equal 10spd Shimano Mountain (Dynasys). Usually, the conflict is the other way--people wanting to use the wide-range dynasys cassettes with their shimano road shifters (in which case, a 9spd mountain bike rear derailleur will work). In this case, the

[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-08-02 Thread iamkeith
Two more thoughts: - If you ride in hilly terrain, you probably want a wider-range cassette, no matter which setup you choose. Something like 12-34 for 9 speed, or 12-36 for 10 speed. Sounds like this guy really did steer you wrong and, on top of everything else, gave you a close-ratio

[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-08-02 Thread ted
Regarding shifter alternatives, I suggest you consider trying these mounted so the shifter is on the inside/underside of the bar http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/shsrtsr.htm http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/shsrtsl.htm I think I have seen folks do sort of the same set up with the paul thumbies

[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-08-02 Thread iamkeith
Keeping this as simple and inexpensive as possible, while adhering to your perfectly reasonable criteria, I think there are basically three ways to go: 1. Get a mountain-specific 10 speed derailleur, to work with all of the other parts you already have. They're not especially pretty compared

[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-23 Thread Steve Cole
I'm very grateful for the time everyone has taken to respond to my question. I'm always interested in the views of others. In the mean time, it seems to make sense to set up my albatross bar with bar-ends. I have a 9/3 setup with Dura Ace bar ends. I may move to trigger shifters if I find

Re: [RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-21 Thread Ron Mc
they really are special, and I got a Wippermann Conex stainless with hollow pins from Ribble for $50. (v. $110-117 from US vendors) here, I'll throw you a bone http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-track-bike/wippermann-wippermann-chains-wippermann-connex-9s1-9-spd-chain/wippchai3400

Re: [RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-20 Thread Steve Palincsar
Unique is one thing, proprietary is another. Definition of /PROPRIETARY / 1*:* one that possesses http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/possess, owns, or holds exclusive right to something; /specifically/ *:* proprietor http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proprietor 2*:* something

Re: [RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-20 Thread cyclotourist
Today you have won all the internets! Nine speed chains are special. On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 4:46 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: Unique is one thing, proprietary is another. Definition of PROPRIETARY 1: one that possesses, owns, or holds exclusive right to something;

Re: [RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-19 Thread cyclotourist
Used to love eight speed, but I'm finding that other than a proprietary sized chain, nine is pretty nice. Not a fan of 10 due two chains coming apart mid-ride. NEVER had that happen with six, seven, eight, or nine. On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com

Re: [RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-19 Thread Steve Palincsar
Proprietary sized chain? You can buy 9 speed chains from many, many companies. It's as much of a standard as any other size chain. On 07/19/2015 10:34 PM, cyclotourist wrote: Used to love eight speed, but I'm finding that other than a proprietary sized chain, nine is pretty nice. -- You

[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-19 Thread Jeremy Till
I use trigger shifters on my MTB and as a mechanic work on them all the time. Indexed triggers have been refined a lot over the years and now work really well, although it is true that they operate on finer tolerances than friction setups and thus require a bit more care and attention when

Re: [RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-19 Thread cyclotourist
Nine speed is specially sized. Not the company, the size. Chains from five to eight speed are interchangeable. At nine you need a proprietary-sized one. Same with 10 and 11. On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: Proprietary sized chain? You can buy 9 speed

Re: [RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-19 Thread Philip Williamson
I settled on nine speed when I had to use those chains for my Dingle cogs. I suddenly have an 8 speed Lemond, with STI, so I might be branching out. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-19 Thread Philip Williamson
Thanks for the tip on resuscitating old Shimano triggers. Mine stopped working, and I thought they had stripped the pawls. I've been thinking about taking the Bontrager back to its original flat bar, from drops. I'll see if the shifters are fixable with your method. Philip www.biketinker.com

Re: [RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-18 Thread cyclotourist
Hi Steve, I've had MTB trigger shifters mounted on A-bars, and they work fine. IIRC they were the integrated kind attached to brake levers. A little clunky looking, but function worked well. You didn't mention the option, but I prefer thumb shifters to either trigger or bar end. As for bar end,

[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-18 Thread Ron Mc
currently very happy with indexed thumbies. While trigger shifters work find they gon't give you visual feedback about your engaged gear. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-18 Thread Ginz
Some triggers have a gauge with a red indicator for your current gear. XT and XTR definitely have this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-18 Thread Ginz
I have used Shimano Rapid Fire on my hardtail since the early 2000s. Only XT and XTR. Both are great. Although, as with any indexing system, the front der adjustment can be tricky. You often have to life with a little chain rub against the inside of the cage. Personally, I stay away from the

[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-18 Thread Michael Hechmer
Having used both Shimano brifters and their BE indexed shifters I found I much prefer the BEs. Although I should add that my experience with the brifters - a couple of years of commuting was 10 years ago. I found the rear brifters worked well, while the front, with a triple, needed constant

[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-18 Thread iamkeith
Funny you should ask! I just yesterday received a box from Rivendell with a set of Albatross bars, to put on a mountain bike that I haven't been able to make peace with fit-wise, and which happens to have trigger shifters. I just swapped the bars on this afternoon and went for a ride. Some