Re: [RBW] Re: Velocity Dyads and 50mm Tires

[kim young]

Omg Mark. Your bike!!! Incredible

Garth-I have felt like such a victim of the upgrade-itis curve (Thank you
for that word)
and which never seems to level out for me.

So the hillibike/bmx possibilities are a dream.
Thank you for the linx!

>From kim in az


On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 8:38 AM Garth  wrote:

>
>Oh man gold Deore hubs with white rims ? You gotta post a photo when
> they're done !  We can never have too many wheels !! They're much easier to
> make room for than whole bikes.  We can both thank the good 'ol world of
> BMX for tempting us all as it doesn't suffer from upgrade-itis like road
> and mtb stuff.
>
> If anyone is interested in old-school brakes for any of their bikes in
> many colors check these out  of interest to me is the Dia-Compe 988
> cantilever brakes in colors. Colorful headset spcers if you need them too !
> https://porkchopbmx.com/brakes/brake-calipers-and-sets/
> https://porkchopbmx.com/old-school-bmx-parts/headsets-and-spacers/
>
> For MKS users they have pedal end caps and the wrenches for them. They
> have colorful VP-747 Bear trap pedals if you're looking for them.
> https://porkchopbmx.com/old-school-bmx-parts/pedals/
>
> Colorful presta valve caps !
> https://porkchopbmx.com/old-school-bmx-parts/valve-caps/
>
> Decals  as a kid we used to covet getting STP oil stickers for Earl's
> Service Station... back when there was such a thing. He's check your fluids
> while he filled your gas tank. In side the postage stamp sized shop was a
> returnable bottle pop machine and a accordion-door chest freezer with ice
> cream sandwiches.
> Porckchop has some nice looking ones ! Kool-Stop, Tange, Suzue, True
> Temper and MKS stickers ... who knew ? The Porkchop "Hot Wheels" and
> Red-White-Blue style stickers look kinda cool.
> https://porkchopbmx.com/old-school-bmx-parts/decals-stickers/
>
> The Made in Japan page has some hard to find Dia-Compe among other parts.
> https://porkchopbmx.com/made-in-japan/
>
> Too much to list ! It's like stepping into a cool old-world bike shop like
> Kraynick's in Pittsburgh where I have gotten a number of vintage SunTour
> shifters and brakes, among other parts !
>
> On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 9:09:01 AM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>>
>> Garth, it was you pointing out the bmx Rhyno colors in another thread
>> that got me to order a set from Albes a few weeks ago. However, you forgot
>> about...white! I will be lacing up white Rhyno Lite XL rims to a set of
>> vintage gold Deore LX hubs from my parts box, spoke nipple colors TBD, for
>> my L Susie! So I have you to thank...or blame;^) If I can figure out the bb
>> situation, my cranks will be a nice '80s magenta. Going with VO clunker
>> bars for now (I have a nice pair of Choco-moose in the wings--thanks Joe).
>> Still debating on whether to get the pink crash pad.  Hopefully it won't
>> clash with my raspberry Brooks. Yikes. Fun!
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Velocity Dyads and 50mm Tires

[Garth]

   Oh man gold Deore hubs with white rims ? You gotta post a photo when 
they're done !  We can never have too many wheels !! They're much easier to 
make room for than whole bikes.  We can both thank the good 'ol world of 
BMX for tempting us all as it doesn't suffer from upgrade-itis like road 
and mtb stuff. 

If anyone is interested in old-school brakes for any of their bikes in many 
colors check these out  of interest to me is the Dia-Compe 988 
cantilever brakes in colors. Colorful headset spcers if you need them too ! 
https://porkchopbmx.com/brakes/brake-calipers-and-sets/
https://porkchopbmx.com/old-school-bmx-parts/headsets-and-spacers/

For MKS users they have pedal end caps and the wrenches for them. They have 
colorful VP-747 Bear trap pedals if you're looking for them. 
https://porkchopbmx.com/old-school-bmx-parts/pedals/

Colorful presta valve caps !
https://porkchopbmx.com/old-school-bmx-parts/valve-caps/

Decals  as a kid we used to covet getting STP oil stickers for Earl's 
Service Station... back when there was such a thing. He's check your fluids 
while he filled your gas tank. In side the postage stamp sized shop was a 
returnable bottle pop machine and a accordion-door chest freezer with ice 
cream sandwiches. 
Porckchop has some nice looking ones ! Kool-Stop, Tange, Suzue, True Temper 
and MKS stickers ... who knew ? The Porkchop "Hot Wheels" and 
Red-White-Blue style stickers look kinda cool. 
https://porkchopbmx.com/old-school-bmx-parts/decals-stickers/

The Made in Japan page has some hard to find Dia-Compe among other parts. 
https://porkchopbmx.com/made-in-japan/

Too much to list ! It's like stepping into a cool old-world bike shop like 
Kraynick's in Pittsburgh where I have gotten a number of vintage SunTour 
shifters and brakes, among other parts ! 

On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 9:09:01 AM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>
> Garth, it was you pointing out the bmx Rhyno colors in another thread that 
> got me to order a set from Albes a few weeks ago. However, you forgot 
> about...white! I will be lacing up white Rhyno Lite XL rims to a set of 
> vintage gold Deore LX hubs from my parts box, spoke nipple colors TBD, for 
> my L Susie! So I have you to thank...or blame;^) If I can figure out the bb 
> situation, my cranks will be a nice '80s magenta. Going with VO clunker 
> bars for now (I have a nice pair of Choco-moose in the wings--thanks Joe).  
> Still debating on whether to get the pink crash pad.  Hopefully it won't 
> clash with my raspberry Brooks. Yikes. Fun!
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Velocity Dyads and 50mm Tires

[Mark Roland]

Garth, it was you pointing out the bmx Rhyno colors in another thread that 
got me to order a set from Albes a few weeks ago. However, you forgot 
about...white! I will be lacing up white Rhyno Lite XL rims to a set of 
vintage gold Deore LX hubs from my parts box, spoke nipple colors TBD, for 
my L Susie! So I have you to thank...or blame;^) If I can figure out the bb 
situation, my cranks will be a nice '80s magenta. Going with VO clunker 
bars for now (I have a nice pair of Choco-moose in the wings--thanks Joe).  
Still debating on whether to get the pink crash pad.  Hopefully it won't 
clash with my raspberry Brooks. Yikes. Fun!

On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 4:45:44 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>
>
> Yes Mark, slightly wider, 29.2/23.5 outer/inner I believe . and they 
> are available in anodized silver, black, gold, red, blue , purple and green 
> !  Colors !!!  I can picture a set of gold rimmed wheels for my orange 
> Susie with black cranks. Even though I have some Alex DM24's on the way, 
> yeah so what ! 
>
> https://bassettbmx.com/products/sun-rhyno-lite-rim-29?variant=8587489509423
>
> On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 9:51:57 PM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>>
>>
>> I just bought a pair of Rhyno Lite XL rims (slightly wider than the 
>> non-xl?) for my Susie, planning to run fairly knobby 2.6" tires, don't 
>> anticipate any problems. I currently have Steilacoom tires on narrow 
>> vintage racing rims, no problem. 2.3" Thunderburts on Atlas, no problem. 
>> 2.1" Powerblocks on super skinny 26" vintage road rims, no problem. Etc. As 
>> pointed out, when running appropriately proportionate pressures, you are 
>> unlikely to have problems except at the most extreme ends. Despite what 
>> Velocity says.
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Velocity Dyads and 50mm Tires

[aeroperf]

Interesting.
I run a set of Velocity Dyads that I built up with Deore hubs.  For the 
last 3 years I’ve run Continental Speed Ride 42mm tires at 70 psi with zero 
problems.
I have lately knocked the pressure back to 55 psi for ride quality, but I 
have never given a thought to the rims failing for any reason.
Of course, 42s aren’t really “fatter tires”.

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[RBW] Re: Velocity Dyads and 50mm Tires

[Garth]

Yes Mark, slightly wider, 29.2/23.5 outer/inner I believe . and they 
are available in anodized silver, black, gold, red, blue , purple and green 
!  Colors !!!  I can picture a set of gold rimmed wheels for my orange 
Susie with black cranks. Even though I have some Alex DM24's on the way, 
yeah so what ! 

https://bassettbmx.com/products/sun-rhyno-lite-rim-29?variant=8587489509423

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 9:51:57 PM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>
>
> I just bought a pair of Rhyno Lite XL rims (slightly wider than the 
> non-xl?) for my Susie, planning to run fairly knobby 2.6" tires, don't 
> anticipate any problems. I currently have Steilacoom tires on narrow 
> vintage racing rims, no problem. 2.3" Thunderburts on Atlas, no problem. 
> 2.1" Powerblocks on super skinny 26" vintage road rims, no problem. Etc. As 
> pointed out, when running appropriately proportionate pressures, you are 
> unlikely to have problems except at the most extreme ends. Despite what 
> Velocity says.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Velocity Dyads and 50mm Tires

[Ginz]

For the longest time, the average mtb rim was 18mm.  People ran 2.1" 
knobbies.  Nowadays it sounds like you need a 23mm rim to run a 2" commuter 
tire.  Are things changing?  Were they always wrong?  I dunno!

I have one set of wide-ish rims -- Rhyno Lites.  They have Big Apple 2.35" 
tires on them.  I don't notice much of a difference.  Oh well!

I thought about running 2.5" tires but wondered what incredibly wide rims 
I'd need to do it!

Ginz


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[RBW] Re: Velocity Dyads and 50mm Tires

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

Not entirely related, but I was running 50mm tires on a set of Velocity 
NoBS rims and kept getting weird flats where the tube looked like it had 
been slashed 3-4". No punctures and not your typical snakebite pinch flat 
pattern. I couldn't figure it out but Velocity said the tires were too wide 
for that rim. (Max they recommend is 45mm which is like a fifth of an inch 
smaller.) I switched to 45's and no problems. I dunno ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  Never 
figured it out but there was something going on with running too big tires 
on those rims. 

On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 1:50:22 PM UTC-4, John Rinker wrote:
>
> Good morning,
>
> Just wondering if anyone else has had an issue with Velocity Dyad rims 
> splitting on the sidewalls while running fatter tires. I have been running 
> some Schwalbe Marathon Mondials (28x2.0) and muy rear rim recently split. I 
> am told by Velocity (who has been very helpful, indeed) that the tires are 
> too big for these rims. 
>
> I love the tires and the rims, but perhaps I need an alternative to the 
> Dyad to run these tires. Any recommendations?
>
> Cheers,
> John
>

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[RBW] Re: Velocity Dyads and 50mm Tires

[Michael Morrissey]

I have Dyads with 50mm Big Bens on my Appaloosa. I've had no problems for 
the 4+ years I've had them. I think I've had such good luck because I am 
religious about keeping them pumped up. I have a digital air compressor 
(the blue one with the gauge from EPAuto on Amazon) and a Silca stainless 
presto adaptor on it. It's way better than any bike pump and way more 
precise. I usually go to 36.5 PSI! I agree with Peter W - 70 PSI is way too 
much.

Good luck! 

m


On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 1:50:22 PM UTC-4, John Rinker wrote:
>
> Good morning,
>
> Just wondering if anyone else has had an issue with Velocity Dyad rims 
> splitting on the sidewalls while running fatter tires. I have been running 
> some Schwalbe Marathon Mondials (28x2.0) and muy rear rim recently split. I 
> am told by Velocity (who has been very helpful, indeed) that the tires are 
> too big for these rims. 
>
> I love the tires and the rims, but perhaps I need an alternative to the 
> Dyad to run these tires. Any recommendations?
>
> Cheers,
> John
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Velocity Dyads and 50mm Tires

[Andrew Letton]

 Could it be that your Dyads were simply worn thin from the brake pads? I run 
50-57mm tires on Dyads on my Bombadil with no problems...admittedly at low 
pressure; less than 35psi.cheers,Andrew
On Tuesday, June 23, 2020, 09:52:38 AM GMT+10, John Rinker 
 wrote:  
 
 Thanks Adam. The fine people at Velocity have offered to replace the Dyads 
with Cliffhangers, so this may be the route I go.
Cheers,John

On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 11:35:50 AM UTC-7, Adam Leibow wrote:
Sorry to hear your rim broke! Cliffhangers are great and can easily handle a 
50mm tire. 

On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 10:50:22 AM UTC-7, John Rinker wrote:
Good morning,
Just wondering if anyone else has had an issue with Velocity Dyad rims 
splitting on the sidewalls while running fatter tires. I have been running some 
Schwalbe Marathon Mondials (28x2.0) and muy rear rim recently split. I am told 
by Velocity (who has been very helpful, indeed) that the tires are too big for 
these rims. 
I love the tires and the rims, but perhaps I need an alternative to the Dyad to 
run these tires. Any recommendations?
Cheers,John



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[RBW] Re: Velocity Dyads and 50mm Tires

[John Rinker]

Thanks Adam. The fine people at Velocity have offered to replace the Dyads 
with Cliffhangers, so this may be the route I go.

Cheers,
John

On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 11:35:50 AM UTC-7, Adam Leibow wrote:
>
> Sorry to hear your rim broke! Cliffhangers are great and can easily handle 
> a 50mm tire. 
>
> On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 10:50:22 AM UTC-7, John Rinker wrote:
>>
>> Good morning,
>>
>> Just wondering if anyone else has had an issue with Velocity Dyad rims 
>> splitting on the sidewalls while running fatter tires. I have been running 
>> some Schwalbe Marathon Mondials (28x2.0) and muy rear rim recently split. I 
>> am told by Velocity (who has been very helpful, indeed) that the tires are 
>> too big for these rims. 
>>
>> I love the tires and the rims, but perhaps I need an alternative to the 
>> Dyad to run these tires. Any recommendations?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Velocity Dyads and 50mm Tires

[John Rinker]

Thanks Garth for that fine list of recommendations. I always had very good 
luck with Mavic 719s. Can't find them is silver anymore.

Cheers,
John

On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 12:00:43 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
>
>
> I think Velocity's conservative rating are more to do with 
> minimizing/discouraging legal/warranty claims. A rim such as a Dyad ought 
> to handle a 50mm tire. The wheel build itself has to be taken into account 
> though, as well as air pressure.  
>
> For other rims...
> DT TK540 is spec'd as being suitable for 23-60mm tires. 
> Alex DM24 for even bigger. I'll have these for my Susie. 
> Sun Rhyno Lite. I have one wheel with these. 
> Mavic's A319 and A719, spec'd @47mm though some European retailers note 
> 50mm works also. I have the A719 with Big Ben's on my Bombadil and will be 
> trying some Vittoria Terrene 2.1's. Many riders report riding them up to 
> 2.35's. 
> Cliffhangers 
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Velocity Dyads and 50mm Tires

[Garth]

I think Velocity's conservative rating are more to do with 
minimizing/discouraging legal/warranty claims. A rim such as a Dyad ought 
to handle a 50mm tire. The wheel build itself has to be taken into account 
though, as well as air pressure.  

For other rims...
DT TK540 is spec'd as being suitable for 23-60mm tires. 
Alex DM24 for even bigger. I'll have these for my Susie. 
Sun Rhyno Lite. I have one wheel with these. 
Mavic's A319 and A719, spec'd @47mm though some European retailers note 
50mm works also. I have the A719 with Big Ben's on my Bombadil and will be 
trying some Vittoria Terrene 2.1's. Many riders report riding them up to 
2.35's. 
Cliffhangers 



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[RBW] Re: Velocity Dyads and 50mm Tires

[Adam Leibow]

Sorry to hear your rim broke! Cliffhangers are great and can easily handle 
a 50mm tire. 

On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 10:50:22 AM UTC-7, John Rinker wrote:
>
> Good morning,
>
> Just wondering if anyone else has had an issue with Velocity Dyad rims 
> splitting on the sidewalls while running fatter tires. I have been running 
> some Schwalbe Marathon Mondials (28x2.0) and muy rear rim recently split. I 
> am told by Velocity (who has been very helpful, indeed) that the tires are 
> too big for these rims. 
>
> I love the tires and the rims, but perhaps I need an alternative to the 
> Dyad to run these tires. Any recommendations?
>
> Cheers,
> John
>

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