[RBW] Re: WTB/Get More Info/Provide A Cautionary Tale Regarding: Sugino Chainring Spacers

2014-07-25 Thread Coconutbill
Rivvy Rings = Silver rings. I kept my spacers on what I believe is my Sugino XD2 crankset, but could have just as easily tossed 'em, when replacing my rings with the Silver ones. I do notice that the gap between my lowest Silver Ring , and the middle ring, is much wider than the gap

[RBW] Re: WTB/Get More Info/Provide A Cautionary Tale Regarding: Sugino Chainring Spacers

2014-07-25 Thread Zack
This is just my basic understanding, so ymmv. The spacers are necessary on the XD2 crank when you are using chainrings that are NOT ramped and pinned (like the Rivvy/Silver rings). It still seems weird to me that this spacer, which is .1mm, makes such a huge difference, hah. -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB/Get More Info/Provide A Cautionary Tale Regarding: Sugino Chainring Spacers

2014-07-25 Thread David Johnston
It might depend on the chain width as well. I am using an 8spd chain with flat rings (40-26) with no spacers without issue, but then again I don't shift to the granny very much and the setup has less than 200 mi on it. -Dave On 7/25/14, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: This is just my basic

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB/Get More Info/Provide A Cautionary Tale Regarding: Sugino Chainring Spacers

2014-07-25 Thread Chris Chen
man I guess it's time to buy some 0.1mm material and find a drill press On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:47 AM, David Johnston jdi...@gmail.com wrote: It might depend on the chain width as well. I am using an 8spd chain with flat rings (40-26) with no spacers without issue, but then again I don't

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB/Get More Info/Provide A Cautionary Tale Regarding: Sugino Chainring Spacers

2014-07-25 Thread David Johnston
A coke can is about 0.1mm thick, or at least they used to be. On 7/25/14, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: man I guess it's time to buy some 0.1mm material and find a drill press On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:47 AM, David Johnston jdi...@gmail.com wrote: It might depend on the chain width as

[RBW] Re: WTB/Get More Info/Provide A Cautionary Tale Regarding: Sugino Chainring Spacers

2014-07-25 Thread Zack
Mark at Riv confirmed the same, can should be around the right thickness. My studio apartment doesn't have enough space for a drill press :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: WTB/Get More Info/Provide A Cautionary Tale Regarding: Sugino Chainring Spacers

2014-07-24 Thread Zack
Follow-up to the follow-up: Thanks to Patrick I am going to have enough of these for one bike. Good stuff. Wondering if anyone else has more laying around - If you do, and are thinking well I have some but I better not let go of them because then I won't have any if I need them in the

[RBW] Re: WTB/Get More Info/Provide A Cautionary Tale Regarding: Sugino Chainring Spacers

2014-07-24 Thread lungimsam
*Beware before messing with spacers on a crankset:* There was an article in Riv reader 41, pg 16 about a person who used spacers on his Sugino crankset to make something fit. This caused not enough shoulder to hold the rings and the seperaters broke and the rig went ker-flooey. Don't

[RBW] Re: WTB/Get More Info/Provide A Cautionary Tale Regarding: Sugino Chainring Spacers

2014-07-24 Thread lungimsam
So wait, are you saying that the Riv rings do not fit XDs crankset? I didn't even know XD2's had spacers on them. I thought the rings just bolted to the cranks with no nonsense. Please let us know how you worked this out as I was thinking of using SILVER rings to replace mine when they

[RBW] Re: WTB/Get More Info/Provide A Cautionary Tale Regarding: Sugino Chainring Spacers

2014-07-21 Thread Zack
Follow-up note: Per Mark at Riv, the Sugino spacers are .1mm. They also don't have any and have them on order from Sugino but it's going to be a month or so until they get them. So, if you have any kicking around that you don't want to use, let me know! -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: WTB/Get More Info/Provide A Cautionary Tale Regarding: Sugino Chainring Spacers

2014-07-17 Thread Garth
Dave, the spacers as far as I can tell only come on riv sold ones with the basic Sugino rings. Mine came that way. All other cranks I bought as complete with the ramped Sugino rings for other retailers do not have them, nor need them . It's because of the basic rings that they are needed ,

[RBW] Re: WTB/Get More Info/Provide A Cautionary Tale Regarding: Sugino Chainring Spacers

2014-07-17 Thread Garth
As far as the hidden bolt of the XD, I have found that not greasing the bolts at all, leaving them as they come from the factory, works so well I have not needed to use the little ring bolt tool. It's still an exercise in futility to put it together though . . . lol. Whoever thought that

[RBW] Re: WTB/Get More Info/Provide A Cautionary Tale Regarding: Sugino Chainring Spacers

2014-07-16 Thread dougP
Zack: It sounds like you need spacers half as thick as the ones you have. With Rivendell being the source of the new rings as well as Sugino, they should be able to advise you, and maybe point you to a source if they don't have them. dougP On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 12:13:28 PM UTC-7,

[RBW] Re: WTB/Get More Info/Provide A Cautionary Tale Regarding: Sugino Chainring Spacers

2014-07-16 Thread hsmitham
what doug said. ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: WTB/Get More Info/Provide A Cautionary Tale Regarding: Sugino Chainring Spacers

2014-07-16 Thread Garth
Call Riv ! I ran into this same issue a few years ago and they very kindly sent me some round spacers n/c . I'm pretty sure they were the same thickness as the one's in your pic, or darn close. Yeah, the standard Sugino rings mess up the spacing big time compared to stock Sugino rings that

[RBW] Re: WTB/Get More Info/Provide A Cautionary Tale Regarding: Sugino Chainring Spacers

2014-07-16 Thread Philip Williamson
I had this problem! I thought it was just me... I bought spacers at the bike shop. Then I returned them for ones half as wide. Philip www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 12:28:55 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote: Zack: It sounds like you need spacers half as thick as the ones you have.

[RBW] Re: WTB/Get More Info/Provide A Cautionary Tale Regarding: Sugino Chainring Spacers

2014-07-16 Thread Dave Johnston
I own or have installed about 5 of Sugino XD2 cranks and never seen spacers like that. I just pulled out a NIB box just to check. Is this on the version of the crank with the steel middle ring? -Dave On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 3:13:28 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote: Hey all. My normal google fu

[RBW] Re: WTB/Get More Info/Provide A Cautionary Tale Regarding: Sugino Chainring Spacers

2014-07-16 Thread Michael Hechmer
Zach, I have owned three XD2 cranks and two of them needed 1-2 mm spacers to move the middle ring out and prevent the chain from falling between the middle and small ring. This was right out of the box. A good LBS should have a collection of spacers. There's also an on-line retailer - loose

[RBW] Re: WTB/Get More Info/Provide A Cautionary Tale Regarding: Sugino Chainring Spacers

2014-07-16 Thread Michael Hechmer
Oh yea, if you put a dab of grease on the crank at each hole it will help to hold the spacer in place while you reassemble the crank. Michael On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 3:13:28 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote: Hey all. My normal google fu is not turning up answers for this, nor has a call to Riv or

[RBW] Re: WTB/Get More Info/Provide A Cautionary Tale Regarding: Sugino Chainring Spacers

2014-07-16 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Loose Screws shut down a while back - they still have a website, but I don't think much is left at this point. I have kind of a love/hate relation with the XD2 - specifically, the hidden bolt arrangement makes me grumpy... But, it always seems to work OK.I just replaced the cranks on the

[RBW] Re: WTB/Get More Info/Provide A Cautionary Tale Regarding: Sugino Chainring Spacers

2014-07-16 Thread rcnute
So that's why my chainring bolts have been spinning around! Ryan On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 12:13:28 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote: Hey all. My normal google fu is not turning up answers for this, nor has a call to Riv or a few local shops in Portland. This is my problem: I replaced my Sugino