[RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-29 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Seth makes a good point, in that many Riv customers and aspiring Riv customers prefer the classic quill aesthetic, and maybe Grant has decided that filling this niche is an important part of the RBW business model. But threadless steerers have been mainstream long enough now, that even

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-29 Thread Ray Shine
@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 12:41:48 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc Seth makes a good point, in that many Riv customers and aspiring Riv customers prefer the classic quill aesthetic, and maybe Grant has decided that filling this niche is an important part

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-29 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 3:41 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Seth makes a good point, in that many Riv customers and aspiring Riv customers prefer the classic quill aesthetic, and maybe Grant has decided that filling this niche is an important part of the RBW

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-29 Thread cyclotourist
an option. -- *From:* Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com *To:* RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 12:41:48 AM *Subject:* [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc Seth makes a good point, in that many

[RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-29 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Seth: I think you're making far too much of the difficulty of adjusting bar height on threadless steerers. I have seen this rumor perpetuated again and again, but it simply isn't true, in my experience. On all my threadless bikes, I have enough steerer that I can move the bars a cm or even an inch

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-29 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Seth: I think you're making far too much of the difficulty of adjusting bar height on threadless steerers. I have seen this rumor perpetuated again and again, but it simply isn't true, in my experience.

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-29 Thread Bill Connell
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:  I have a burley tandem with a threadless headset/stem and having to move it around to get the bars up was a giant pain in the ass. I had a bianchi castro valley, same thing, In general, I've found that since getting a

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-29 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: The software analogy is flawed, because the vast majority of software users don't maintain and modify their own apps, but they certainly can work on their own bikes. The analogy is apt here. A lot of folks on this list do

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-29 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: Jim,  I have a burley tandem with a threadless headset/stem and having to move it around to get the bars up was a giant pain in the ass. I had a bianchi castro valley, same thing, In general, I've found that since getting a

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-29 Thread Bill Connell
On Aug 29, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: The software analogy is flawed, because the vast majority of software users don't maintain and modify their own apps, but they certainly can work on their

[RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-28 Thread EricP
Well, one could use the Woodchipper bars in 25.4 with a DritDrop stem. The Luxy bars look like the Woodchipper with a tighter bend. Possibly a good idea, although I do find myself on the lower part of the Woodchipper on some climbs on the Salsa Fargo. The whole does seem to work well together.

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-28 Thread cyclotourist
That's the problem w/ wide dirt drops (lower case). They seem to be made to only be used in the drops. At least the Midge/Garys are like that, not sure about the WCs. And Philip, that Winter Cycles stem is beautifully mdade. Definitely not a kludge IMHO. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 5:11 AM,

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The Salsa Bell Lap can be ridden in all positions -- I like it for that reason and my only gripe is the anatomic hooks. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 8:30 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: That's the problem w/ wide dirt drops (lower case).  They seem to be made to only be used in the

[RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-28 Thread Michael_S
the Luxy is made to ride in the drops from what I've read. I have never been a fan of Salsa bars... I hate the double grooves and that anatomic bend is not comfortable. ~Mike~ On Aug 28, 7:38 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: The Salsa Bell Lap can be ridden in all positions -- I

[RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-28 Thread EricP
The Woodchipper is designed to be ridden in the drops. With the hooks about even with saddle height. At least that's my preference. These bars do not have any grooves. Probably intentional with the fairly funky bends. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 28, 9:56 am, Michael_S

[RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-28 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Time for Riv to go threadless! On Aug 28, 12:23 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: my understanding is 31.8 only. Which does not leave any quill stem options.  we will have to use one of those adapters  with a threadless stem. ~Mike~ On Aug 27, 9:14 pm, cyclotourist

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-28 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Time for Riv to go threadless! Let's not have that happen. I really don't care for threadless very much. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Why not? On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Time for Riv to go threadless! Let's not have that happen. I really don't care for threadless very much. -sv -- You

[RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-27 Thread velomann
A midge-like bar in silver? Sweet! Now if it accepts bar-ends (and why wouldn't it?) I can stop my futile searching for a vintage dirt drop bar. On Aug 26, 7:32 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: I'm waiting for  that new one from Ragley called the Luxy. It was designed by the Midge

[RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-27 Thread Michael_S
yea baby! and yes it works with bar end shifters. and it's Silver! here is a linky to a proto of the bar http://singularcycles.posterous.com/ragley-luxy-bar-latest it would look great on the Hunqua too. ~Mike~ On Aug 27, 6:43 pm, velomann velom...@gmail.com wrote: A midge-like bar in silver?

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-27 Thread cyclotourist
Are they going to be 25.4 or 31.8 only? I think a bar like that is missing from Rivendell's offerings. On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: yea baby! and yes it works with bar end shifters. and it's Silver! here is a linky to a proto of the bar

[RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-27 Thread Michael_S
my understanding is 31.8 only. Which does not leave any quill stem options. we will have to use one of those adapters with a threadless stem. ~Mike~ On Aug 27, 9:14 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Are they going to be 25.4 or 31.8 only?  I think a bar like that is missing from

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-27 Thread cyclotourist
Kludgy. On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: my understanding is 31.8 only. Which does not leave any quill stem options. we will have to use one of those adapters with a threadless stem. ~Mike~ On Aug 27, 9:14 pm, cyclotourist

[RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-26 Thread Michael_S
I'm waiting for that new one from Ragley called the Luxy. It was designed by the Midge designer after getting all the input on the midge/junebug/wtb/woodchipper and it comes in silver. goin' on the new dropbar 29er. ~Mike~ On Aug 26, 6:49 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW,