Re: [RBW] Re: Waxing Well
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:45 AM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 2, 11:19 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: Careful with that. Linseed oil is pretty easily combustible material. - Jim Right. Of course it is flammable. Worse than that. Linseed oil in rags (such as the rags you use to clean up, or your cloth bag if you put in it an enclosed container) spontaneously combusts. This is not a joke-- it really does. -- -- Anne Paulson He who wills the ends wills the means -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Waxing Well
On Dec 5, 10:00 am, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: Worse than that. Linseed oil in rags (such as the rags you use to clean up, or your cloth bag if you put in it an enclosed container) spontaneously combusts. This is not a joke-- it really does. Thank you for pointing that out.Nonetheless, it is common practice to use linseed oil to thin the beeswax used in waxing and waterproofing cotton.It is also used frequently with beeswax for making a nice wood finish. This is because the small amounts (~1 tbsp per pint, or 1/2lb of wax required to do thin the wax) do not pose significant threat of combustion.In fact, people (artists) use linseed oil to thin paints which are then applied to cotton canvas all the time.Folks have also been using it for years to protect their steel frames, before Frame-Saver came into existence.Linseed oil can be your friend! :D -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Waxing Well
It should also be noted that relatively large amount of beeswax to which you are adding the linseed oil is a flame retardant- which is why it's used to make candles, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Waxing Well
Filson makes a paste wax for re-proofing their waxed cotton garments. I've used it on a Baggins with positive results. Hot weather, a heat gun or oven helps the wax to flow into the fabric. I second the vote for the Filson wax (www.filson.com/sm-one-can-of-oil- finish-wax--pi-2092385.html). See application instructions under product details. I know some folks who use a heat gun to apply followed by a cloths dryer just long enough for the wax to flow into the fabric. Gives a beautiful finish. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Waxing Well
I hope the Filsen Paste Wax finish is made from something different than the Filson Boot Oil which goes on easy and looks great, but has a tendency to cause mold in humid weather when used on leather. I've had this happen a number of times and have switched to Obenauf's because of this. --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Will wpm...@gmail.com wrote: From: Will wpm...@gmail.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Waxing Well To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 8:01 AM Filson makes a paste wax for re-proofing their waxed cotton garments. I've used it on a Baggins with positive results. Hot weather, a heat gun or oven helps the wax to flow into the fabric. I second the vote for the Filson wax (www.filson.com/sm-one-can-of-oil- finish-wax--pi-2092385.html). See application instructions under product details. I know some folks who use a heat gun to apply followed by a cloths dryer just long enough for the wax to flow into the fabric. Gives a beautiful finish. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Waxing Well
that sounds like a great idea. However, my bags are full of road grit. I'd like to clean them somehow before applying the wax without damaging the leather bits. any advice on that? best s On Dec 3, 7:15 am, mcrawford mcrawf...@artic.edu wrote: Filson makes a paste wax for re-proofing their waxed cotton garments. I've used it on a Baggins with positive results. Hot weather, a heat gun or oven helps the wax to flow into the fabric. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Waxing Well
on 12/4/09 10:13 AM, sanjoser at thomas.savar...@gmail.com wrote: that sounds like a great idea. However, my bags are full of road grit. I'd like to clean them somehow before applying the wax without damaging the leather bits. any advice on that? I was just going to throw my Baggins Banana Bag in to the washer. Was going to try the Kookaburra wash as detergent. Well, unless someone replys that this is a monumentally bad idea... Will report back on the results. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Workshops of the iBob's Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines My nighttime attitude is anyone can run you down and get away with it. That's why I don't even own a bike light or one of those godawful reflective suits. Because if you've put yourself in a position where someone has to see you in order for you to be safe...you've already blown it. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Waxing Well
Filson makes a paste wax for re-proofing their waxed cotton garments. I've used it on a Baggins with positive results. Hot weather, a heat gun or oven helps the wax to flow into the fabric. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Waxing Well
I've never tried it myself but IIRC a product called Nikwax (sp?) is suitable. I've seen it at REI. dougP On Dec 2, 1:15 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Erik, I have no comments on waxing bags, don't really know anything about it, but have just spent the last hour going through your blog. I'm in awe of your photos, your riding and your tours. Someday I hope to mee you and chat, and perhaps when I'm fitter, go on a ride with you. Since my oldest daughter is a sophomore at Berkeley, I can easily find an excuse to come up from Palo Alto... :-D Congratulations! René On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:51 PM, erik jensen bicyclen...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for the word on waxing my canvas equipment properly. So far, I've only waxed the wheel-facing sides of my baggins panniers. This was a few months ago, but I wasn't satisfied with the result. Several months on it hasn't seemed to absorb properly (still waxy in parts) and it really darkened the fabric significantly. How do you wax your cotton in a manner that results in a similar outcome to the original thing. Also, what's the best product to use? I'd be waxing a few baggins bags, a nigel smythe, and *maybe* an acorn rando. Thanks, erik -- berkeley, ca bikenoir.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Waxing Well
I've tried my hand at waxing canvas. However, I did have the advantage of waxing it while it was still a flat piece of fabric instead of being sewn up into something more useful. Nevertheless, I believe my method should be still applicable to bags and such without too many nooks and crannies. Before applying the beeswax, I heat up the fabric first. You can use either a small iron (like those portable ones) or a 1.5 kW hairdryer. Once the fabric is warmed up, I quickly rub a small block of beeswax over the heated area. Do small areas at a time. Heat can be further applied to help the beeswax permeate the fabric. My method also do not require a spousal-alert because the iron and hairdryer are both unaffected by this exercise and can be returned to normal duty without so much as a wipe. newenglandbike is right. Using beeswax make the thing smell like flowers! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Waxing Well
I agree with Rene. Erik your blog is amazing. Great pictures. Hopefully someone can plan out aS240 group ride somewhere in Bay. I think as a group we a can a good turn out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Waxing Well
on 12/2/09 1:04 PM, newenglandbike at matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: (snipped) The first coupla times I did it, I used linseed oil to help thin the molten wax, but that tends to make it smell a *lot*. Careful with that. Linseed oil is pretty easily combustible material. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines That which is overdesigned, too highly specific, anticipates outcome; the anticipation of outcome guarantees, if not failure, the absence of grace. William Gibson - All Tomorrow's Parties -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Waxing Well
Doesn't Carradice sell something to use for this purpose? On Dec 2, 3:51 pm, erik jensen bicyclen...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for the word on waxing my canvas equipment properly. So far, I've only waxed the wheel-facing sides of my baggins panniers. This was a few months ago, but I wasn't satisfied with the result. Several months on it hasn't seemed to absorb properly (still waxy in parts) and it really darkened the fabric significantly. How do you wax your cotton in a manner that results in a similar outcome to the original thing. Also, what's the best product to use? I'd be waxing a few baggins bags, a nigel smythe, and *maybe* an acorn rando. Thanks, erik -- berkeley, ca bikenoir.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Waxing Well
Please do! I'm a complete beginner to touring and am completely clueless about it, although I'd really like to do it next year. I'm actively looking for mentors, but won't have time to do anything until the end of January or so... René On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:53 PM, erik jensen bicyclen...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all the great suggestions. Please keep suggestions coming, as I'm still debating the merits of the different (but all seemingly similarly effective) methods. At this point I think the nikwax could be an easy solution (no hair dryer in the house). I'm also grateful for your positive words on my blog/photography. It is a joy to know they are being enjoyed. I'm always happy to ride with anyone (and I'm pretty laid back given my simultaneous enjoyment of photography, so fitness levels don't enter the picture). Grok-like. I'd also enjoy a group s24o in the bay. Perhaps this could be started as a separate thread? Lots to say about that possibility... I'll pick it up unless someone else does! erik -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
