[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-21 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Canti for ultimate fenderability and rackability!!! Nothing but air between tire and fork crown!!! I always wondered why all Rivbikes are not canti bikes since they are such staunch supporters of fender and rack use. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-21 Thread Andy C.
Canti-Hilsen? Never saw one before but I dig it. Are there others? —AC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-21 Thread ML / SF
Thank you! Compass Babyshoe Pass (42 mm) tires under Gilles Berthoud ss fenders (50mm, if I remember correctly). On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 10:09:16 AM UTC-8, Sean B. wrote: > > That's beautiful. What size are the tires and what kind of fenders? > > On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-21 Thread Sean B.
That's beautiful. What size are the tires and what kind of fenders? On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 11:48:21 AM UTC-6, ML / SF wrote: > > My 2018 MUSA canti-AHH is stamped C1 > > > On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 10:27:46 AM UTC-8, Lum Gim Fong wrote: >> >> First two characters please.

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-21 Thread Lum Gim Fong
So according to this: https://waterfordbikes.com/w/support/serial-numbers/ My Roadeo is a December 2010 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-21 Thread Paul Richardson
awesome. thanks everybody! so fun to get nerdy over this stuff, especially when i'm at work and can't be riding my bicycle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-20 Thread ML / SF
>From Waterford: “Waterford streamlined the serial numbers to the last three components of the self-describing serial number: Month Code: This one letter code corresponds to the month with A=January, B=Febuary and so on. Because I is not used, September=J and December=M. Year Code: This two

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-20 Thread Lum Gim Fong
My guess: K= month 11= year XXX= ___th day of year triple digits makes sense in November Guess on second set of numbers: How many Grant paid for so far/out of # made for him  Just kidding! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-20 Thread Paul Richardson
mine is stamped K11XXX RBW 02/595 ...which makes a lot of sense since i ordered it in october '11, and, from what i gather, k=november in waterford speak. anybody know what the second sequence of numbers means? On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 3:59:04 PM UTC-5, sameness wrote: > > My MUSA

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-20 Thread Joe Bernard
Addendum, "never seen a good one" is a poor choice of words, I'm just saying the windows weren't perfect like the current bikes. Regardless that mint is gorgeous, and it has my favorite Riv name and decals. Lovely bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-20 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Mine wasn't bad, but the paint on the fork crown got rubbed off pretty bad by the BE shifter cable. Here is my Bleriot album with some close ups: https://flic.kr/p/GiEm9C On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 4:44:26 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Bleriot was the first MIT Riv to get painted

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-20 Thread Joe Bernard
Bleriot was the first MIT Riv to get painted windows and it showed. I've never seen a good one, including the one I owned..they were all a little kludgey up close. But still gorgeous! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-20 Thread Lum Gim Fong
I am sure all the MUSA/Tai/and Toyos are equal value in quality of build. Just the economies of their markets price them differently. I think RBW has always said that the build quality is the same. Paint may be another issue. My 2013blueSamTaiborne paint looked just as good as my MusaRoadeo

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-20 Thread sameness
My MUSA AHH had two water bottle locations, RIVENDELL stamped on the bottom bracket, dropouts and the fork ends, an a S/N of B1110X. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-20 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'm pretty sure Riv knows where the serial number was made. I had a question about my Hunqapillar and when I gave Keven (remember Keven?) the serial number he told me it was Toyo made (and, to my delight, that "those are special bikes") -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-20 Thread Joe Bernard
I consider the Toyo/Waterford frames to have equal value. They sold in the same price categories (obviously increasing as the years went on), and were built in a similar handbuilt fashion. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-20 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Having an older Hilsen and not knowing if Musa or Toyo poses a resale value conundrum. Wonder if there is a way to tell where made. Maybe the serials can do that. Not sure if RBW knows. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-20 Thread Paul Richardson
dropouts on my ~2011 homer are stamped RIVENDELL. can get back to you on the serial later. i always thought it was waterford made, but i guess i'm not 100% sure. how can i find out? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-20 Thread Tim D
My 65cm AHH says RIVENDELL M# It's a 2012 frame IIRC. On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 11:27:46 AM UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > First two characters please. Thanks. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-19 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Cuz unscrupulous persons could contest ownership unless you can produce proof of purchase. Over on musician forums they avoid posting whole numbers for this reason. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-19 Thread ctbiker
>Can I assume that mine is also a Toyo build? My notes say, "3 water bottle braze ons mean Toyo built" Also, I guess I'm too naive or trusting -- why don’t you recommend posting full numbers? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-18 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Thanks. You can look at dropouts to see if “Waterford” stamped there. Sometimes they do that though I don’t know if done on Hilsens. Don’t know how to check for Toyos. I don’t need full serials. Just wanted to confirm the first two characters of Hilsen numbers. I don’t need whole numbers and

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-17 Thread 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch
My blue 56cm is serial number - AH0273 I did NOT buy it from the original owner but two years ago, probably from the third owner. Can I assume that mine is also a Toyo build? And, what year might it have been made? David Lipsky Berkeley, CA On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 10:27:46 AM UTC-8,

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-17 Thread Lum Gim Fong
Ok Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: What do Hilsen Serial numbers start with?

2018-11-17 Thread ctbiker
On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 1:27:46 PM UTC-5, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > First two characters please. Thanks. > My 63cm Toyo build was SN: AH0219 I bought it in March 2010 from its original owner Ray Lisbon, CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google