I'm just having trouble following the idea that a thread that went from sun
protection to helmet use.
I think we're all better than that. Helmets as a topic always seem to be
third rail interchanges. It's one thing if it's the proffered topic at
the outset. But, it wasn't here.
I'd hate to
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 5:53 PM, ScottM meadiaprodu...@gmail.com wrote:
We shouldn't judge others ... but if you absolutely can't help yourself,
at least make sure you have all of the information pertinent to the
particular situation at hand.
Very good point!
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Keep the metal side up
Och! Tell me this is an elaborately planned, well ramped up, April Fool's
joke!
This is utterly fascinating and quizzically amusing and stunningly
illustrative of people who seem remarkably large in number and include the
highly educated, doctors, and nurses, and more, so as to perhaps be a
+1
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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for
riding in the
Time for this thread to die
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On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
Och! Tell me this is an elaborately planned, well ramped up, April Fool's
joke!
This is utterly fascinating and quizzically amusing and stunningly
illustrative of
Where can I buy a pair of these rose colored lenses that will allow me to
interpret everything written by Deacon to be sensitive enlightened
wisdom? Because the lenses I'm looking through aren't working. Here's
what I see in his response:
- Tell me this is an elaborately planned, well
I think perhaps what Deacon is referring to is that no one here ever asked
him WHY he doesn't wear a helmet, but instead simply judged him (very
harshly, I might add) for his own choice. He never judged any of you for
doing so, and even offered some on-topic suggestions for those who wear
I learned a new word last week and think it applies (though not sure if
it's a *real* word)...sonder. Sonder is the realization that each random
passerby is living a life as vivid and complex as your own—populated with
their own ambitions, friends, routines, worries and inherited craziness...
Got it in one, Scott! You've given me a wonderful gift by seeing what was
there to be seen. Thank you.
I find it truly wonderful and humbling how some people have a gift for
putting themselves into another's shoes (or bare feet in my case. Grin.),
with the information available and have
I'm glad I stayed out of it-- since I don't own a Rivendell and therefore
am not a Rivendell Rider. :-o
Anton
On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 10:53:31 AM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote:
Time for this thread to die
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On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com
I have a really good joke about this thread coming back after 3 days but I'll
just keep it to myself.
Oh, shit.
-Justin, agnostic to helmets and gods in Oakland
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Same here. FOMO (fear of missing out) made me look. Whew! I think I'll
go change the air in my tires.
dougP
On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 1:33:17 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
I totally ignored this thread up until I saw Liesl refer to it in another
post... wow, I've been
I sure hope there a future resurrection, the price tag on those new POC
Octal AVIP MIPS road helmets almost put me in an early grave!
John
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I totally ignored this thread up until I saw Liesl refer to it in another
post... wow, I've been missing out!!!
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Justin August justin.aug...@icloud.com
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I have a really good joke about this thread coming back after 3 days but
I'll just keep it to myself.
On 03/30/2015 04:54 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Deacon Patrick may have received a few blows to the head, but he
expertly ducked Steve's punch! Bravo.
On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 1:30:39 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Och, Steve! If you needed help following my reasoning all you had
to
I'm 89.999% sure these are only available from Australia. But it really is
a non-issue nowadays. She's responsive to e-mail if you have any questions
and shipping was fast and cheap for me; On my 2nd purchase I bought four
on sale and shipping was free. For the past couple years I've been
Personally, I do not see how anyone can disagree with Steve. Maybe his
delivery is harsh but the message true. Bangs on the head are cumulative
and the long term results have been proven. If I had a bludgeoned brain I
would be taking measures to protect it. I'm not saying helmets are
*It is now well known grouchiness is cumulative, and you have on numerous *
*occasions made it very well known around here that you are
already suffering the effects of multiple outbursts. You may be willing
to risk more; if it were me, I would not. *
Fear not, Steve... I have the perfect
Ever the high road. Thank you Deacon Patrick.
-RCW
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Did it get a little passive-aggressive in here, or is it just me?
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Deacon, if you want Steve to be friendly and tolerant in his expression of
his opinions, I guess you'll have to re-engage with him over on i-Bob, the
Group he moderates. i-Bobs are expected to be friendly and tolerant, or
so the i-Bob rules state.
On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 12:16:10 PM
On 03/31/2015 09:19 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Dear Steve,
I am sorry something happened to you and/or those you love that causes
you great anger toward me because I do not wear a helmet. Should you
ever email me directly, either in the group or privately, I am happy
to explain why I ride
This is getting away from the sun hat topic, and I also hate wearing a
helmet, but at least Steve cares enough about all of us to call us ninnies
for not wearing one.
If he didn't care about us, he would keep quiet.
My wife is a psychologist who has treated a large number of people
suffering
We also know crabon fiber bikes are lighter than steel ones. So what does
it prove, exactly?
If riding without a helmet is his joy, then let him have it. There's only
so much changing of hearts and minds you're going to do on an email list.
I take a risk riding my bike also, for a different
Are Treadley helmet hats available in the US, or do I have to send to Australia?
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 8:24 AM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
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Here's what I use:
http://www.treadley.com.au/
This little cottage industry was developed by a
Not to perpetuate any discussion on the helmet topic, my position on the
issue is that if I'm going to wear one (and I do), I want to make it as
bold and awesome as my bikes are. Therefore, I just replaced my aging
Specialized helmet with a new POC Octal MIPS bright orange helmet that cost
a
Dear Steve,
I am sorry something happened to you and/or those you love that causes you
great anger toward me because I do not wear a helmet. Should you ever email
me directly, either in the group or privately, I am happy to explain why I
ride without a helmet, but that, I suspect, is not the
but one thing for sure: if I went around constantly telling the world
how f*cked up my brain was due to repeated head traumas I'd damn sure be
wearing that helmet, no matter what I wore or didn't wear under it.
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Och, Steve! If you needed help following my reasoning all you had to do was
ask. It can be challenging keeping up with the brain bludgeoned. Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 2:16:10 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
but one thing for sure: if I went around constantly
I shave my head every day, and have fair skin... No naked dome for me... If
riding without a helmet, I'll typically wear a baseball cap with suncreen
on my neck and ears. Otherwise I wear a Doo rag or bandana under my helmet
and/or LOTS of sunscreen and my helmet.
In transitional weather
Hah!! Snark-o-meter in the RED!!
Patrick, a poke from Steve is kinda like a badge of honor, only different.
(Sardonic grin).
Peace, amigo.
BB
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Badge of Honor! Genius.
You know the Bruce Gordon story? Bruce Gordon has kind of a pretty widely
held rep as a sourpuss. One year, Bruce showed an excellent sense of humor
at his own expense by handing out Bruce Gordon was rude to me pins. He
has a limited edition version for the
That response put the Deacon in Deacon Patrick.
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Deacon Patrick may have received a few blows to the head, but he expertly
ducked Steve's punch! Bravo.
On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 1:30:39 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Och, Steve! If you needed help following my reasoning all you had to do
was ask. It can be challenging keeping up
I agree with the cycling/baseball cap endorsements. Also, wanted to give a
shout out to button down shirts or anything with collars- because if you
raise the collars, they can protect back of your neck. Or you can use a wet
bandanna- it will cool your neck/head.
-E.
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:13
Thanks Chris, much appreciated.
Love your photos. They make me want to take a trip out to see the in-laws,
though they're a bit south of you, down near Corpus Christi.
Happy Trails!
John
On Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 2:33:44 PM UTC-7, Pondero wrote:
John,
My straw hat is made by Resistol.
Some where out there is a company that makes a sombrero like thing that
goes under a helmet. I know folks with them and they like them. Sorry I
can't remember the name but maybe someone here will.
Chris
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Thin wool caps. Wool keeps you cool when it's hot and warm when it's cool.
(and when it's wet, like in rain) Like this one:
*http://tinyurl.com/k8vxl5y*
On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 12:47:47 PM UTC-5, WETH wrote:
Cycling cap under helmet and sunscreen on my fave and neck.
Jim, sorry to
http://www.dabrim.com/
On 03/22/2015 07:01 AM, Chris in Redding, Ca. wrote:
Some where out there is a company that makes a sombrero like thing
that goes under a helmet. I know folks with them and they like them.
Sorry I can't remember the name but maybe someone here will.
Chris
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Chris,
What make is your Stetson?
thanks,
John
On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 6:12:44 AM UTC-7, Pondero wrote:
Bringing my shade with me...
http://instagram.com/p/sauukJnPxU/
Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas
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Patrick ain't got no money, but I got hair! Moore
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M48u5IkWB4Y
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Isn't that like asking what make my Rivendell is? Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 11:00:15 AM UTC-6, John wrote:
Chris,
What make is your Stetson?
thanks,
John
On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 6:12:44 AM UTC-7, Pondero wrote:
Bringing my shade with me...
John,
My straw hat is made by Resistol.
Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas
On Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 12:00:15 PM UTC-5, John wrote:
Chris,
What make is your Stetson?
thanks,
John
On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 6:12:44 AM UTC-7, Pondero wrote:
Bringing my shade with me...
Here's what I use:
http://www.treadley.com.au/
This little cottage industry was developed by a concerned mother in
Australia. They can look a bit goofy but work fantastic. If I remember
correctly she had a big sale right around Easter last year.
Matt
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Cycling cap under helmet and sunscreen on my fave and neck.
Jim, sorry to hear about your mom's surgeries. I lost my mother to melanoma;
hers developed on her scalp.
So to all, wear sunscreen and protect your scalp, whether you are balding or
not! Skin cancer kills!
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If I'm not wearing a helmet I wear an older version of this from
Tilley:
http://www.tilley.com/us_en/men/hats/warm-weather/ltm6is-insect-shieldr.html
If I'm wearing a helmet I wear
this: http://www.solararmourinc.com/neckvizor.cfm
I have thick hair atop my head and have never been burned
If I think the road or ride is dangerous I wear a cotton cycling cap under my
helmet and just sweat a lot. The evaporation makes it tolerable.
When riding around town I wear a panama style hat from my local hardware store.
Good shade and keeps me cool.
Gonna start heating up here in
I'm with Patrick. I mostly don't wear a helmet except when required by brevets.
And I'm bald. So I slowly get my head used to the sun each spring by wearing a
cotton cycling cap, then taking it off and putting it in the handlebar bag or
jersey pocket to get 15, then 30 then 45 minutes, until I
I ended up with a Solar Sombrero from Simms Fishing. Nice, light,
rollable. Easy to tuck into the bag. Ended up with a couple of their
sunblocking arm covers as well. And I have a bunch of the sunblocking Buff
headwear neck gaiters (both in merino wool for winter and their superlight
UV
I have an inordinate fondness of hats and have tried lots and lots of types
while bicycling. Here are some fav's:
+2 on tilly brimmed hats; cotton, oilcloth, or wool. Both Erin and I love
them. The curve of the brim from back to front is good with wind and can be
coupled with the chin strap
I don't wear a helmet. I love getting an hour or two of peak sun exposure
for Vitamin D and other intangibles that only get produced by our skin via
sun exposure when the sun is higher than 45˚. Outside that, I wear either a
Tilley hat (medium brim, I prefer their cotton one, but mine is too
If I do wear a hat, mostly to keep the sun out of eyes, it's a Headsweats
Cycle cap . It's not cheapie generic cycle cap either, the bill is a
little longer and flexible . The high quality fabric is great for warm
weather, Coolmax . I too find most headwear too warm , but these caps I
can
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