I give this answer to this question every year.
The best winter active pant is from XC Sporthill, their cross country ski
pant. Period, no debate. :-)
http://www.sporthill.com/products2011.php?ProductGroup=2100
I use these for riding, xc-skiing, and hiking into the 20s. They last for
many years
Hey Mojo - these look great. I always like seeing MD-Tall sizes! And I like
the tapered leg and slim cuff.
Do you have both versions of the pants? Is one heavier/thicker than the
other?
KJ
On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 12:14:39 PM UTC-4, Mojo wrote:
I give this answer to this question every
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 9:14 AM, 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch
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MUSA pants don't even cut autumn temperatures. Thin, slick nylon doesn't
trap warmth and feels unpleasant against the skin. And my hairy legs build
up static in them; yuck.
Good
Hi Kieran,
I have only the tradiitonal Sporthill XC pant and love love them. They
breathe very well and block much but not all wind. They are warm when wet.
I am leery of clothes that block the wind. If I want wind block, I add a
wind shell on top.
Thanks for bringing up the Long sizing. I am
Yes Joe, you are right. I bought the originals. I didn't know there was an
updated version.
On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 10:36:53 AM UTC-6, joe b. wrote:
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MUSA pants don't
When it drops below 60F, I start whining, but I ride anyway.
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 5:56 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
When it drops below 60F, I stay inside!
Brrr
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
High of 45 IS indian
Mojo,
I have the updated MUSA knickers and they are great down to about 20˚F
before they need wool tights under them. I've hairy legs also and have
never had a problem with static or them feeling strange against my skin.
But I'm an odd ball. Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Tuesday, October
Thanks Patrick and Joe. Obviously I need to stay up-to-date with the
fashion trends at Rivendell!
On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:03:57 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
Mojo,
I have the updated MUSA knickers and they are great down to about 20˚F
before they need wool tights under them. I've
I love my MUSA long pants (Gray with blue edition).
But I wish they had a special winter version of MUSA long pants with a
windstopper material from the waistband down to below the knees.
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Mark, try searching 3/4-length merino wool base layer.
On Monday, October 20, 2014 5:12:37 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:
I love my MUSA long pants (Gray with blue edition).
But I wish they had a special winter version of MUSA long pants with a
windstopper material from the waistband down to
REI Acme pants, but my winter is pretty mild in California.
On Monday, October 20, 2014 3:54:00 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
Mark, try searching 3/4-length merino wool base layer.
On Monday, October 20, 2014 5:12:37 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:
I love my MUSA long pants (Gray with blue edition).
This looks like what I had in mind, but their website says pretty much the
same thing about every item and the photos are too small to see clearly.
Gotta think about it.
Hi of 45 for tomorrow, so it looks like indian summer is over.
Michael
On Friday, October 17, 2014 8:42:06 PM UTC-4, Kevin
High of 45 IS indian summer. Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
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When it drops below 60F, I stay inside!
Brrr
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High of 45 IS indian summer. Grin.
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Oh, you lose too much riding time! I'm no Deacon Patrick, but I'm good on a
sunny, not too windy day, down to the upper teens in dry NM winter. 60F is
just perfect riding weather -- wool really comes into its own when the temp
drops below 65F.
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 4:56 PM, cyclotourist
I think it only gets into the 50s for three or four days of the year, so
nope, not missing too much... :-)
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh, you lose too much riding time! I'm no Deacon Patrick, but I'm good on
a sunny, not too windy day, down to the
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 6:58 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
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I think it only gets into the 50s for three or four days of the year, so
nope, not missing too much...
Would that be defined as a Polar Vortex then?
;-)
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On 10/18/2014 09:58 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
I think it only gets into the 50s for three or four days of the year,
so nope, not missing too much... :-)
Where are you located? Hawaii?
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com
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Et in arcadia ego
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 7:58 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
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I think it only gets into the 50s for three or four days of the year, so
nope, not missing too much... :-)
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Oh, you
That's Arcadia, CA, of course.
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
Et in arcadia ego
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 7:58 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
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I think it only gets into the 50s for three or four days of the year, so
nope, not
I kid, I kid... but really, I have the opposite problem: I can't ride in
the summer as the temps are 100F+ and somewhat humid. I have to time my
rides so I can be done before it hits 90F!! SoCal is the opposite of
most of the country in SO many ways... :-)
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 7:12 PM,
Of course what's cold is relative to each person , that said, I love
Outdoor Research Equinox Pants . They are also a lightweight supple
brushed nylon, but instead of relying on velcro externally, they have
hidden drawcords around the the inside of the ankle . I wear them mostly as
knickers
my vote is still the MUSA pants with merino wool base layer, but of course,
cold here is 40s.
On Friday, October 17, 2014 8:28:07 AM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:
It's Indian Summer here in northern NE, but the temperature is poised to
drop and I am thinking about winter riding pants. The
I wear MUSA knickers and the black merino wool not-so-tights from
Rivendell. I may have put two pair tights on when riding at -20˚F. Bleow
the knee I wear calf warmers and socks and gators as needed. The nylon MUSA
knickers/pants are very repelling of wind, which is where most of the cold
I'm with Ron, I rode down to about 20deg regularly in musa pants and Patagonia
silk weight long underwear... I added rain pants if it was wet or windy. I'm
not planning on changing that up this year.
Those who riding pants on the op's link are nice looking though!
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-20F??? I don't there's any bike pants that could get me out riding in
those sorts of temperatures.
On Oct 17, 2014 8:54 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
I wear MUSA knickers and the black merino wool not-so-tights from
Rivendell. I may have put two pair tights on when riding at
also with Deac, most of the time I will go with knickers, knicker base
layer and Falke knee socks. With big wind, I'll go with the long pants,
full -length base layer and thicker crew socks. What's very typical here
is starting the morning in the low 40s and pushing low 70s by afternoon.
20 deg F, not -20 deg F... below 20 I'm not riding to work usually.
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:
also with Deac, most of the time I will go with knickers, knicker base
layer and Falke knee socks. With big wind, I'll go with the long pants,
full -length
I commute 8 miles each way wearing MUSA pants over wool briefs and MUSA
shorts down to about 26 degrees before I need to add some light weight
tights underneath.
On Friday, October 17, 2014 10:46:22 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:
also with Deac, most of the time I will go with knickers, knicker base
I used to commute to -10F. Jeans with rainpants, wool sweater with shell.
Leather mittens. Wool sox inside breadbags inside regular cycling shoes.
Balaclava and sometimes goggles under the helmet. I'd start out warm, get
cool in the feet, warm up in the feet and have moderately cold hands
You're way smarter than me, Jim.
With abandon,
Patrick
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I've got several pairs of knickers which between them take care of all
cool-to-cold weather riding. 2 pairs of Nashbar 2/3 pants made from good,
tight nylon fabric are good with socks (or in my case, just ordered,
Nashbar leg warmers) down to 40F or even lower. Then I have 2 pairs of
knickers
Andy: what sorts of socks? Thick ones? If so, how did you get these into a
pair of shoes that fit in the summer?
I've heard that keeping your torso warm (where all the essential organs
are) will prevent warming blood from being skinted to your extremities. Not
sure if this agrees with my
I do a lot of winter riding in Wyoming these days, but on a snow bike. I
found some fantastic pants by Patagonia called guide pants. Looks like
they've changed a slight bit since I got mine a couple of years ago, but
this is close. Without looking through the entire website, there might be
Patrick:
I don't recall the name right now...I'm wearing through my last few pair.
Ah. DeFeet Blaze, IIRC. Not especially high, but thick in the right
places. Perfect for me, and they likely fit because since I have size 13*B*
(very narrow) feet, even size 13 cycling shoes tend to be a
Thanks; good reviews from the quick google I just did. In fact, I may have
a pair of these myself, as I came into a stash of very lightly used DeFeet
and Icebreaker socks sold on one list or another. I gather that their
warmth comes from their tight weave as much as from their bulk.
On Fri, Oct
Speaking of winter riding pants, I have a NOS pair of very thick wool army
pants from some European country that have been sitting in my extras bin
for 10 years or so. Never worn by me. ~34 waist and ~32 inseam, but I can
check.
Make offer. Shipping from 87120. Photos coming.
On Fri, Oct 17,
I don't think Deac puts on shoes until 10 below
On Friday, October 17, 2014 10:25:36 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
You're way smarter than me, Jim.
With abandon,
Patrick
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I picked up a pair of Mammut soft shell pants off the sale rack at REI last
year. They are made of a Schoeller fabric that is inherently water
resistant and look remarkably normal with jean-style pockets, belt loops
and snap/zip front. No provision to snug the cuff for riding, but my velcro
When it gets cold and wet enough in the Pacific NW (say like next month), I
pull out the old military wool surplus pants. The pair I've owned for about
7 years came from the local army surplus for like $10, probably (East)
German origin. Good thick wool that is great for cold and wet. I had
I was responding to Deacon Patrick who did mention negative 20 Fahrenheit.
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote:
20 deg F, not -20 deg F... below 20 I'm not riding to work usually.
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:
also
two words: COVER EVERYTHING
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:
I was responding to Deacon Patrick who did mention negative 20 Fahrenheit.
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote:
20 deg F, not -20 deg F... below 20 I'm
IMHO the answer is Swrve midweight pants. They are not quite soft-shell,
have 4-way stretch, are breathable and water resistant, look normal(!), and
are tailored for riding. They come in hipster skinny and kinda skinny. They
also make soft-shell pants but I prefer layering underneath the mid
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