[RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-03-01 Thread JoelMatthews
In any event, the Dominguez Rando clearly has curved fork blades. On Feb 28, 10:43 pm, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: To make this comparison you'd have to make the two forks of identical crowns, steer tubes, and the same headsets.  Flex involves those parts as well as the blade.

Re: [RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-03-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 23:43 -0500, Ken Freeman wrote: To make this comparison you'd have to make the two forks of identical crowns, steer tubes, and the same headsets. Flex involves those parts as well as the blade. Did you read the BQ article? -- You received this message because you

Re: [RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-03-01 Thread Ken Freeman
No. On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 23:43 -0500, Ken Freeman wrote: To make this comparison you'd have to make the two forks of identical crowns, steer tubes, and the same headsets. Flex involves those parts as well as the

Re: [RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-03-01 Thread Ken Freeman
I think the answer is yes, the force due to a bump universally tends to flex a bent fork tube. Ditto that it it tends more strictly to compress a straight one. But is the difference really big enough to be universally discernible? Clearly Jan thinks that for highly bent forks it is significant.

[RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-03-01 Thread newenglandbike
I took another look at the article last night, and this is an (approximate) summary of what's in it: In the test, two of the forks compared had equivalent offsets and tubing, but one had a much lower, tighter bend than the other.The one with the much lower bend had much more flex or 'vertical

[RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-03-01 Thread newenglandbike
I took another look at the article last night, and this is an (approximate) summary of what's in it: In the test, two of the forks compared had equivalent offsets and tubing, but one had a much lower, tighter bend than the other.The one with the much lower bend had much more flex or 'vertical

Re: [RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-03-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 10:06 -0800, newenglandbike wrote: I took another look at the article last night, and this is an (approximate) summary of what's in it: In the test, two of the forks compared had equivalent offsets and tubing, but one had a much lower, tighter bend than the other.

[RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-02-28 Thread JoelMatthews
Starting to notice a few more of Brad's bikes here in the Twin Cities. There are probably more, but I'm not part of any in crowd. Jim from Hiawatha (Riv dealer = Riv content) went out to the show. Hopefully he'll have a nice long report after returning. Another builder from up your way,

Re: [RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-02-28 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:03 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Starting to notice a few more of Brad's bikes here in the Twin Cities.  There are probably more, but I'm not part of any in crowd. Jim from Hiawatha (Riv dealer = Riv content) went out to the show. Hopefully he'll have

[RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-02-28 Thread newenglandbike
Not commenting on the builder in question, but on straight-blade forks in general: it seems as though the reasoning behind blades with a low, uniform bend has been largely forgotten(?) Straight-blades seem to be really popular right now, but I wonder if it's only a matter of time before

Re: [RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-02-28 Thread Tim McNamara
On Feb 28, 2010, at 8:03 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: Starting to notice a few more of Brad's bikes here in the Twin Cities. There are probably more, but I'm not part of any in crowd. Jim from Hiawatha (Riv dealer = Riv content) went out to the show. Hopefully he'll have a nice long report after

Re: [RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-02-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Do they really not flex as well, despite the offset at the crown and if they are properly tapered? I haven't noticed any difference in the two straight bladed forks I've used, tires being similar to those ridden on curved-leg forks. IOW: is it universally true that a well designed straight blade

[RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-02-28 Thread GeorgeS
Thanks for the pictures. I was at NAHBBS yesterday also. For my money the most impressive bike on the floor was the work of the young guy from Pa (Helm). Stunning workmanship on the randonneur. Lots of well-thought-out details. All internal routing through brass tubes. I was afraid to ask how

[RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-02-28 Thread Tim McNamara
On Feb 28, 2010, at 10:46 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Do they really not flex as well, despite the offset at the crown and if they are properly tapered? I haven't noticed any difference in the two straight bladed forks I've used, tires being similar to those ridden on curved-leg forks. IOW:

[RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-02-28 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I don't believe that it's necessarily true that a curved fork will have a softer ride than an equally raked straight fork with the same blades. If there is some difference, I bet it's tiny. Unless you're using a rock-hard tire, it's hard to imagine that the fork would flex much at all. On Feb 28,

[RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-02-28 Thread newenglandbike
Yeah there was a pretty cool article about it in Bicycle Quarterly: http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/BQ63.html On Feb 28, 12:38 pm, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Feb 28, 2010, at 10:46 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Do they really not flex as well, despite the offset at the crown

Re: [RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-02-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 11:43 -0800, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I don't believe that it's necessarily true that a curved fork will have a softer ride than an equally raked straight fork with the same blades. If there is some difference, I bet it's tiny. Unless you're using a rock-hard

[RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-02-28 Thread MichaelH
Thanks for all the wonderful photo. I was smitten by Jan Hein's tandem. I have a Bilenkey custom tandem that will look remarkably similar. Looks like Jan has 650B wheels and I went with 26. Ours will have SS couplers, a custom ( Marks rack) in English Racing Green. It's being built up now;

Re: [RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-02-28 Thread Ken Freeman
To make this comparison you'd have to make the two forks of identical crowns, steer tubes, and the same headsets. Flex involves those parts as well as the blade. On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 11:43 -0800, Jim Thill - Hiawatha

[RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-02-27 Thread JoelMatthews
ohhh mann... that Capricorn is very nice. Brad Wilson is a young builder to watch. His designs are practical yet very sophisticated. Great presence of mind for a fairly new shop to reach out to a well established company like Bailey to make a matching bag for his racks. On Feb 26, 10:53 pm,

[RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-02-27 Thread EricP
That actually surprised me a bit. His girlfriend was going to be making bags. (She already makes hats and possibly other recycled clothing.) And I think he's sewn a few himself. Starting to notice a few more of Brad's bikes here in the Twin Cities. There are probably more, but I'm not part of

Re: [RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-02-27 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:30 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Those Poka chainguards are what caught my eye! the headbadges from Poka are what impress me... For a bike w/o a headbadge I cannot think of anyone else I would want to look at. -sv -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-02-27 Thread cyclotourist
All my bikes have nice headbadges already :-) On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:30 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Those Poka chainguards are what caught my eye! the headbadges from Poka are what impress me...

Re: [RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-02-27 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:25 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: All my bikes have nice headbadges already :-) I know - but there are sad bicycles who don't have headbadges on their own. poor, unloved bicycles. but you can adopt one and give it a proper headbadge. -sv -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-02-27 Thread cyclotourist
I actually have an itch to get one that looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/brianwickman/316243850/ On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:25 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: All my bikes have nice headbadges

Re: [RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-02-27 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:31 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I actually have an itch to get one that looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/brianwickman/316243850/ If anyone is interested by photog partner has posted more nahbs pictures today:

[RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-02-26 Thread Michael_S
ohhh mann... that Capricorn is very nice. would have loved to be there... maybe next year will be closer. how much is the bag? I don't see it on their website. Mike So Cal ( waiting for San Diego show in April) On Feb 26, 8:37 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: I was at nahbs today in

Re: [RBW] Re: bailey works bags and nahbs

2010-02-26 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: ohhh mann... that Capricorn is very nice. would have loved to be there... maybe next year will be closer. how much is the bag?  I don't see it on their website. $95 I'll post pictures when it shows up. -sv --