[RBW] Re: duct tape to enamel paint

2013-08-05 Thread bwphoto
I haven't tried duck tape but I have used gaffer's tape, it is used in the 
photo industry to attach things like lights, grip gear, wires etc. to 
walls, floors, etc. anything that could have the finish marred by regular 
tape. When removed it leaves no residue and does not effect the painted 
surface. I've used it on my bikes in a similar manner as you.

You can get it at any pro photo supply shop or on-line at places like BH 
Photohttp://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=gaffer+tapeN=0InitialSearch=yessts=ta
.

On Monday, August 5, 2013 11:32:39 AM UTC-5, SMP wrote:

 Would you ever put duct tape onto your frame?  How would it impact the 
 enamel paint job?

 I am trying to think of a a non-zip-tie way to route dynamo light wires, 
 and I found the perfect hue of duct tape that matches my paint job.


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[RBW] Re: duct tape to enamel paint

2013-08-05 Thread William
+1 on gaffer tape being a superior product for not leaving gooey residue. 
 But very elegant glued-on shrink-fit tubing can be a super elegant 
solution.  The famous Anton Tutter does wiring jobs for rando bikes, most 
notably JPWeigle.  You can seek out his shrink-fit solutions on flickr.  I 
can't post flickr links from work but try looking for somervillebikes as 
the user handle.  Maybe somervillebike.  Otherwise email me off-list and I 
can try to get you an introduction.  

On Monday, August 5, 2013 10:00:43 AM UTC-7, bwphoto wrote:

 I haven't tried duck tape but I have used gaffer's tape, it is used in the 
 photo industry to attach things like lights, grip gear, wires etc. to 
 walls, floors, etc. anything that could have the finish marred by regular 
 tape. When removed it leaves no residue and does not effect the painted 
 surface. I've used it on my bikes in a similar manner as you.

 You can get it at any pro photo supply shop or on-line at places like BH 
 Photohttp://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=gaffer+tapeN=0InitialSearch=yessts=ta
 .

 On Monday, August 5, 2013 11:32:39 AM UTC-5, SMP wrote:

 Would you ever put duct tape onto your frame?  How would it impact the 
 enamel paint job?

 I am trying to think of a a non-zip-tie way to route dynamo light wires, 
 and I found the perfect hue of duct tape that matches my paint job.



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[RBW] Re: duct tape to enamel paint

2013-08-05 Thread SMP
Nice -- I found one that matches!

Thanks for the tip.

http://m.bhphotovideo.com/mobile/detail?R=725048_REGtitle=Gaffers+Tape+(0.9%22+x+82

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[RBW] Re: duct tape to enamel paint

2013-08-05 Thread SMP
That sounds intriguing...  I'd also abstain from flicker-ing while at work, but 
luckily I'm on the other side of the pond; therefore, my work day is 
theoretically over.

I'll have to check this out when I get home in a few minutes, but if you could 
point me to direct links (or an intro) later today, that would be awesome.

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[RBW] Re: duct tape to enamel paint

2013-08-05 Thread William
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7516215@N03/9401478506/

this ought to work

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[RBW] Re: duct tape to enamel paint

2013-08-05 Thread William
As bizarre chance would have it, I also have a roll of fluorescent pink 
gaffer tape.  If you find you only want a half-meter of the stuff to 
experiment with, I could rip some off my roll and mail it to you.  

Why do I have fluorescent pink gaffer tape?  I've got about 70 different 
colors of gaffer and duct tape, and have made a small hobby out of making 
useful stuff with tape, including wallets.  Check out my etsy store at 
www.tapebubba.etsy.com



On Monday, August 5, 2013 10:11:21 AM UTC-7, SMP wrote:

 Nice -- I found one that matches!

 Thanks for the tip.


 http://m.bhphotovideo.com/mobile/detail?R=725048_REGtitle=Gaffers+Tape+(0.9%22+x+82



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[RBW] Re: duct tape to enamel paint

2013-08-05 Thread SMP
That's pretty slick...  but still, if the wiring is black, you can see the 
black on top of the bright colored bike paint.  I am leaning towards a tape 
solution, as this has a better chance of completely hiding/camouflaging the 
cable.

On Monday, August 5, 2013 7:28:00 PM UTC+2, William wrote:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/7516215@N03/9401478506/

 this ought to work


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[RBW] Re: duct tape to enamel paint

2013-08-05 Thread SMP
Nice etsy shop!  I would love to experiment with some, but I am not sure if 
you want to mail anything all the way to Switzerland (where I currently 
reside).  I'll leave it up to you, but either way, I appreciate your 
generosity.

Since you are quite the tape expert, could you perhaps see from these 
photos whether the pink colored tape would match my frame?  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sumehra/sets/72157626297211850/


On Monday, August 5, 2013 7:57:06 PM UTC+2, William wrote:

 As bizarre chance would have it, I also have a roll of fluorescent pink 
 gaffer tape.  If you find you only want a half-meter of the stuff to 
 experiment with, I could rip some off my roll and mail it to you.  

 Why do I have fluorescent pink gaffer tape?  I've got about 70 different 
 colors of gaffer and duct tape, and have made a small hobby out of making 
 useful stuff with tape, including wallets.  Check out my etsy store at 
 www.tapebubba.etsy.com



 On Monday, August 5, 2013 10:11:21 AM UTC-7, SMP wrote:

 Nice -- I found one that matches!

 Thanks for the tip.


 http://m.bhphotovideo.com/mobile/detail?R=725048_REGtitle=Gaffers+Tape+(0.9%22+x+82



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[RBW] Re: duct tape to enamel paint

2013-08-05 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Absolutely do not use Duct (or Duck) tape on bikes unless you are miles 
from anywhere and that's the only way out.  It makes for a nasty clean up.  
Still, I do have a length of it wrapped onto a small dowel...

But, YES on Gaffer's Tape.  That is wonderful stuff. 

Also - the other item I found is Rescue Tape which comes in several 
colors and clear.  It is a self-fusing silicone wrap which I've used to 
water-restrict openings and attachments.  The stuff is pretty cool.

http://www.rescuetape.com/

- Jim / cyclofiend.com

On Monday, August 5, 2013 9:32:39 AM UTC-7, SMP wrote:

 Would you ever put duct tape onto your frame?  How would it impact the 
 enamel paint job?

 I am trying to think of a a non-zip-tie way to route dynamo light wires, 
 and I found the perfect hue of duct tape that matches my paint job.


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[RBW] Re: duct tape to enamel paint

2013-08-05 Thread William
I'm not sure how well the color will match, so I think the only solution 
would be for you to ship that very stylish mixte over to me in America for 
a closer tape consultation.  I will keep the bike for a short time, maybe 
30 years or so, and then return it to you.  :)

If you do want a half-meter of tape, I would just stick it to wax paper and 
put it in a flat envelope.  It would only cost a few dollars to mail to 
Europe, I think.  You pay for the postage and I will donate the tape.  

On Monday, August 5, 2013 11:22:52 AM UTC-7, SMP wrote:

 Nice etsy shop!  I would love to experiment with some, but I am not sure 
 if you want to mail anything all the way to Switzerland (where I currently 
 reside).  I'll leave it up to you, but either way, I appreciate your 
 generosity.

 Since you are quite the tape expert, could you perhaps see from these 
 photos whether the pink colored tape would match my frame?  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sumehra/sets/72157626297211850/


 On Monday, August 5, 2013 7:57:06 PM UTC+2, William wrote:

 As bizarre chance would have it, I also have a roll of fluorescent pink 
 gaffer tape.  If you find you only want a half-meter of the stuff to 
 experiment with, I could rip some off my roll and mail it to you.  

 Why do I have fluorescent pink gaffer tape?  I've got about 70 different 
 colors of gaffer and duct tape, and have made a small hobby out of making 
 useful stuff with tape, including wallets.  Check out my etsy store at 
 www.tapebubba.etsy.com



 On Monday, August 5, 2013 10:11:21 AM UTC-7, SMP wrote:

 Nice -- I found one that matches!

 Thanks for the tip.


 http://m.bhphotovideo.com/mobile/detail?R=725048_REGtitle=Gaffers+Tape+(0.9%22+x+82



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[RBW] Re: duct tape to enamel paint

2013-08-05 Thread SMP
Duly noted on the duct/duck tape.

Thanks for pointing me to the Rescue Tape.  I think clear option might be 
the best bet for me, if the pink Gaffer isn't a good match for my frame.  I 
might just get it to have it around--looks super handy!

On Monday, August 5, 2013 8:28:35 PM UTC+2, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 Absolutely do not use Duct (or Duck) tape on bikes unless you are miles 
 from anywhere and that's the only way out.  It makes for a nasty clean up.  
 Still, I do have a length of it wrapped onto a small dowel...

 But, YES on Gaffer's Tape.  That is wonderful stuff. 

 Also - the other item I found is Rescue Tape which comes in several 
 colors and clear.  It is a self-fusing silicone wrap which I've used to 
 water-restrict openings and attachments.  The stuff is pretty cool.

 http://www.rescuetape.com/

 - Jim / cyclofiend.com

 On Monday, August 5, 2013 9:32:39 AM UTC-7, SMP wrote:

 Would you ever put duct tape onto your frame?  How would it impact the 
 enamel paint job?

 I am trying to think of a a non-zip-tie way to route dynamo light wires, 
 and I found the perfect hue of duct tape that matches my paint job.



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[RBW] Re: duct tape to enamel paint

2013-08-05 Thread SMP
har har... good one ;)

Yes, I would like to take you up on the sample tape--will send you an email 
shortly.

On Monday, August 5, 2013 8:40:29 PM UTC+2, William wrote:

 I'm not sure how well the color will match, so I think the only solution 
 would be for you to ship that very stylish mixte over to me in America for 
 a closer tape consultation.  I will keep the bike for a short time, maybe 
 30 years or so, and then return it to you.  :)

 If you do want a half-meter of tape, I would just stick it to wax paper 
 and put it in a flat envelope.  It would only cost a few dollars to mail to 
 Europe, I think.  You pay for the postage and I will donate the tape.  

 On Monday, August 5, 2013 11:22:52 AM UTC-7, SMP wrote:

 Nice etsy shop!  I would love to experiment with some, but I am not sure 
 if you want to mail anything all the way to Switzerland (where I currently 
 reside).  I'll leave it up to you, but either way, I appreciate your 
 generosity.

 Since you are quite the tape expert, could you perhaps see from these 
 photos whether the pink colored tape would match my frame?  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sumehra/sets/72157626297211850/


 On Monday, August 5, 2013 7:57:06 PM UTC+2, William wrote:

 As bizarre chance would have it, I also have a roll of fluorescent pink 
 gaffer tape.  If you find you only want a half-meter of the stuff to 
 experiment with, I could rip some off my roll and mail it to you.  

 Why do I have fluorescent pink gaffer tape?  I've got about 70 different 
 colors of gaffer and duct tape, and have made a small hobby out of making 
 useful stuff with tape, including wallets.  Check out my etsy store at 
 www.tapebubba.etsy.com



 On Monday, August 5, 2013 10:11:21 AM UTC-7, SMP wrote:

 Nice -- I found one that matches!

 Thanks for the tip.


 http://m.bhphotovideo.com/mobile/detail?R=725048_REGtitle=Gaffers+Tape+(0.9%22+x+82



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Re: [RBW] Re: duct tape to enamel paint

2013-08-05 Thread pcb


 Hopefully this won't get me banned from the list, but I've been using 
self-fusing silicone tape to finish my gel tape bar wraps for a few 
years now. Three strikes for me already for not using cotton tape, 
twine and shellac... 
It's available in colors, though I only do black bar wrap (strike 4?), 
so black silicone tape. It's fast and neat, you cut about a 6 length, 
stretch it tight as you wind around the bar, next to the handlebar 
ferrule. Since it has no adhesive, there's no oozing adhesive later, 
like electrical tape, and since it fuses/sticks to itself, it never 
peels or separates. Seems impervious to normal temperature extremes, 
doesn't loosen/degrade in hot temps or solidify/crack in low temps. 
Jersey temps, anyway, up to 100deg in summer, down to zero in winter. 
Never thought of it for lighting/computer cable wrap since the native 
width is 1, kinda wide for cable wrap. You could cut it lengthwise, I 
suppose, but being gel-like, it could be a little squirrely to cut 
lengthwise?

Paul Brodek
Hillsdale, NJ USA

Quoting Cyclofiend Jim :

  Absolutely do not use Duct (or Duck) tape on bikes...It makes 
for a nasty clean up...But, YES on Gaffer's Tape.  That is wonderful 
stuff. 

Also - the other item I found is Rescue Tape which comes in several 
colors and clear.  It is a self-fusing silicone wrap which I've used to 
water-restrict openings and attachments.  The stuff is pretty cool. 


http://www.rescuetape.com/

- Jim / cyclofiend.com

On Monday, August 5, 2013 9:32:39 AM UTC-7, SMP wrote:

  Would you ever put duct tape onto your frame?  How would it 
impact the enamel paint job?
I am trying to think of a a non-zip-tie way to route dynamo light 
wires, and I found the perfect hue of duct tape that matches my paint 
job. 


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Re: [RBW] Re: duct tape to enamel paint

2013-08-05 Thread William
Hopefully this won't get me banned from the list

If you get banned for that, I quit!   :-)

If there is one thing this group should be zealously opposed to, it is 
zealotry.  Besides, you've got several things going for you that trump any 
orthodox interpretation of Rivish acceptability.  

1.  You insist on being comfortable, and don't care what people tell you on 
how to get there
2.  You thought of it and did it yourself
3.  Rescue tape is MUSA!

I'm going to order a roll right now!


On Monday, August 5, 2013 12:37:25 PM UTC-7, Paul Brodek wrote:

 Hopefully this won't get me banned from the list, but I've been using 
 self-fusing silicone tape to finish my gel tape bar wraps for a few years 
 now. Three strikes for me already for not using cotton tape, twine and 
 shellac...

 It's available in colors, though I only do black bar wrap (strike 4?), so 
 black silicone tape. It's fast and neat, you cut about a 6 length, stretch 
 it tight as you wind around the bar, next to the handlebar ferrule. Since 
 it has no adhesive, there's no oozing adhesive later, like electrical tape, 
 and since it fuses/sticks to itself, it never peels or separates. Seems 
 impervious to normal temperature extremes, doesn't loosen/degrade in hot 
 temps or solidify/crack in low temps. Jersey temps, anyway, up to 100deg in 
 summer, down to zero in winter.

 Never thought of it for lighting/computer cable wrap since the native 
 width is 1, kinda wide for cable wrap. You could cut it lengthwise, I 
 suppose, but being gel-like, it could be a little squirrely to cut 
 lengthwise?

 Paul Brodek
 Hillsdale, NJ USA


 Quoting Cyclofiend Jim :

 Absolutely do not use Duct (or Duck) tape on bikes...It makes for a nasty 
 clean up...But, YES on Gaffer's Tape.  That is wonderful stuff. 

 Also - the other item I found is Rescue Tape which comes in several 
 colors and clear.  It is a self-fusing silicone wrap which I've used to 
 water-restrict openings and attachments.  The stuff is pretty cool.

 http://www.rescuetape.com/

 - Jim / cyclofiend.com

 On Monday, August 5, 2013 9:32:39 AM UTC-7, SMP wrote:

 Would you ever put duct tape onto your frame?  How would it impact the 
 enamel paint job?

 I am trying to think of a a non-zip-tie way to route dynamo light wires, 
 and I found the perfect hue of duct tape that matches my paint job.

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Re: [RBW] Re: duct tape to enamel paint

2013-08-05 Thread Philip Williamson
My first thought looking at the silicone rescue tape was Bar Tape! I got 
halfway through comparing roll lengths to cotton tape, and then got distracted 
by work. Pff.

On the duct-tape-to-bike subject, I got rescued the other day by a guy with a 
tube and inflator kit duct taped to the seat post of his carbon bike. 

Philip
www.biketinker.com

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