Re: [RBW] Re: what kind of bike is it?

[James Warren]

I call it (Hunqapillar for me) my mountain bike.


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> On Jun 16, 2017, at 10:54 PM, Orc  wrote:
> 
> Call it a hybrid; that's a more familiar term than the Riv 'all-arounder' (or 
> the PNW "randonneuse", which is similar but not really to the french 
> originals.)
> 
> -david parsons
> 
>> On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 3:56:32 PM UTC-7, ericf3 wrote:
>> greetings
>> 
>> I picked up my own first Riv (Bombadil F) today (more about that in coming 
>> days) and then ended up at lunch with some pals who are casual cyclists.  I 
>> told them it was New Bike Day, and they were keen to share my excitement..  
>> One asked, what kind of bike is it?  I was torn -- said it was kind of like 
>> a mountain bike.  Next question: Will I take it up the back of Grouse 
>> Mountain (a nice dirt road route) and I had to say, maybe but I am putting 
>> road (Compass 44s) tires on it.  They seemed confused.  What is the deal 
>> with this MTB type thing that rides on smooth stuff?
>> 
>> Is there a simple explanation that  I could use and make people go "a-ha, I 
>> understand about your bicycle! " 
>> 
>> Just curious, since once it's built up they will see it (and are close to my 
>> proportions so can ride it for themselves).
>> 
>> How to describe it?
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> EricF
>> Vancouver
> 
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[RBW] Re: what kind of bike is it?

[Orc]

Call it a hybrid; that's a more familiar term than the Riv 'all-arounder' 
(or the PNW "randonneuse", which is similar but not really to the french 
originals.)

-david parsons

On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 3:56:32 PM UTC-7, ericf3 wrote:
>
> greetings
>
> I picked up my own first Riv (Bombadil F) today (more about that in 
> coming days) and then ended up at lunch with some pals who are casual 
> cyclists.  I told them it was New Bike Day, and they were keen to share my 
> excitement..  One asked, what kind of bike is it?  I was torn -- said it 
> was kind of like a mountain bike.  Next question: Will I take it up the 
> back of Grouse Mountain (a nice dirt road route) and I had to say, maybe 
> but I am putting road (Compass 44s) tires on it.  They seemed confused.  
> What is the deal with this MTB type thing that rides on smooth stuff?
>
> Is there a simple explanation that  I could use and make people go "a-ha, 
> I understand about your bicycle! " 
>
> Just curious, since once it's built up they will see it (and are close to 
> my proportions so can ride it for themselves).
>
> How to describe it?
>
> thanks
>
> EricF
> Vancouver
>

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[RBW] Re: what kind of bike is it?

[iamkeith]

As noted, all-arounder is pretty apt, and also the term Grant uses often.   

Of course, you realize that trying to pigeonhole something by categorizing it  
completely defeats the purpose of it not belonging to a category.

I always liked chris kostman's take, with the "rough riders" / "any-bike 
anywhere", / XO-1 thing, that picked up where grant left off, and was even more 
militant about the non-category category.

http://www.xo-1.org/?m=0

(I think the energy for the site sort of fizzled out after a while, once 
rational, useful bikes and reasonable tires became more commonplace.  There was 
a time not that long ago when rivendell was all alone in this, though.) 

It's actually kind of odd that you'd even need to explain or rationalize this 
to someone these days, in this post- monster cross / adventure bike / gravel 
grinder / all road / bike packing marketing reality that rivendell spawned.

Hope that was a coherent thought stream.  Too many beers tonight..

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[RBW] Re: what kind of bike is it?

[GAJett]

All-rounder? Country bike? Do It All? Road bike? Commuter? Tourer? For my AHH 
the answer is YES!!! And More!

Have done most of the above (not yet touring but certainly will). Lots of road: 
good; cracked, broken & alligatored; good dirt; bad dirt; single-track; 
whatever. My AHH handles all with grace and confidence. 

Have surprised MTN bikers following them down narrow ridges. 25 mph down good 
fire road, not a problem. Fat old guy on a first 100k, very pleasant. Paved 
bike trail blocked, ring your bell and dive off across the dirt shoulder with 
no loss of speed. 

When your buddies ask if your Riv can do X, the answer is YES!

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[RBW] Re: what kind of bike is it?

[Garth]

Well, with a big smile and a happy heart I call my Bomba framed bike a bike, 
and I call my Franklin framed bike, a bike. What a coincidence, I have TWO 
bikes !  Ahahahahaahahah !

Yes, I know we like to put things in categories, and it need not be more to a 
bike than being a bike, because there isn't. ☺

A-hahhh ! 


More than that and I get lost mental gymnastics, and I always found gymnastics 
to be alot of work. I'm sweating just thinking about all that thinking and I 
would rather not sweat much these days.  

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[RBW] Re: what kind of bike is it?

[Deacon Patrick]

As you've likely seen, my Hunqapillar, very similar to the Bombadil, sports 
Compass Snoquamies. Yesterday I rode in on single track and I would 
describe the ride as exhilarating and not underbiking, though the loose 
gravel meant I had to LCG for 20 steps more than with the Racing Ralphs. 
Not bad for the plush delight of riding the dirt and asphalt roads of the 9 
mile 1,600 foot climb. Today I took it on a route that save for the deeps 
of winter is a Quickbeam only ride (Barlow Pass 38s), and the ride was yet 
plusher and smoother with a slightly less lively feeling climb vs. the 
sporty QB, but I don't track time.

Imagine a bike you can ride to the trail head on any roads, then ride the 
trail with more fun and skill than a dedicated MTB. That's how I think of 
it.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 4:56:32 PM UTC-6, ericf3 wrote:
>
> greetings
>
> I picked up my own first Riv (Bombadil F) today (more about that in 
> coming days) and then ended up at lunch with some pals who are casual 
> cyclists.  I told them it was New Bike Day, and they were keen to share my 
> excitement..  One asked, what kind of bike is it?  I was torn -- said it 
> was kind of like a mountain bike.  Next question: Will I take it up the 
> back of Grouse Mountain (a nice dirt road route) and I had to say, maybe 
> but I am putting road (Compass 44s) tires on it.  They seemed confused.  
> What is the deal with this MTB type thing that rides on smooth stuff?
>
> Is there a simple explanation that  I could use and make people go "a-ha, 
> I understand about your bicycle! " 
>
> Just curious, since once it's built up they will see it (and are close to 
> my proportions so can ride it for themselves).
>
> How to describe it?
>
> thanks
>
> EricF
> Vancouver
>

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[RBW] Re: what kind of bike is it?

[Jim M.]

If I had to categorize, I'd call my Bomba an all-rounder. I've got 2 
wheelsets, and probably 4 sets of tires. Knobs for the gnar, Conti Tour 
Rides for around town (though they'll handle fire roads), and Hetres if I 
get the urge to randoneur on it. 

jim m
walnut creek

On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 3:56:32 PM UTC-7, ericf3 wrote:
>
> greetings
>
> I picked up my own first Riv (Bombadil F) today (more about that in 
> coming days) and then ended up at lunch with some pals who are casual 
> cyclists.  I told them it was New Bike Day, and they were keen to share my 
> excitement..  One asked, what kind of bike is it?  I was torn -- said it 
> was kind of like a mountain bike.  Next question: Will I take it up the 
> back of Grouse Mountain (a nice dirt road route) and I had to say, maybe 
> but I am putting road (Compass 44s) tires on it.  They seemed confused.  
> What is the deal with this MTB type thing that rides on smooth stuff?
>
> Is there a simple explanation that  I could use and make people go "a-ha, 
> I understand about your bicycle! " 
>
> Just curious, since once it's built up they will see it (and are close to 
> my proportions so can ride it for themselves).
>
> How to describe it?
>
> thanks
>
> EricF
> Vancouver
>

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